Welp, guess I will use my Element extinguishers for chopsticks or something. Thanks for the demonstration and facts!

@kelvinelrick807

Жыл бұрын

Yeah same, I will keep it in my door pocket just in case I catch it when it's small.

One of these extinguishers was clearly out of its element…

Well that ruins my video idea but so glad somebody finally tested one of these. Their promo video looked super sus and they weren’t legal to sell as a fire extinguisher in cali a couple years ago so now we clearly know why.

let the bonnet open is the first mistake many people do. You have to shut as far as possible the bonnet. This to prevent having a draft from under the car going up and refuelling it with oxygen. the bonnet/hood must be just as far open as you can see the fire and then spray it in, let gravity take care of the stuff going down. let the hood down and just check through the sloth. Worked everytime and I did as far as I remember 3 carfires. all extinquist correctly.

Thank you for testing the element.

Put a 5 pounder abc in the trunk or cab. I’m a fire inspector and the element is pure garbage.

@nomadicwolf6132

2 ай бұрын

What would you recommend for a motorcycle, Brian? 👀🏍🔥🧯

I've got a 1kg extinguisher on a bracket under my driver's seat, but I'm definitely going to look at upgrading it to a bigger 2.5kg extinguisher, and maybe look at getting a 4.5kg in the back seat. Vehicle fires are no joke, especially if you go remote!

I didn't know about Halon being discontinued. I carry a 2.5lb at my seat and a 5lb on the back cage. Both are charged but likely expired...I believe in partial credit! As always, good info here Harry, thanks for taking the time to share.

@donhappel9566

Жыл бұрын

I think some specialized applications like military can still get actual Halon, but it's mostly been replaced by other chemicals like Hailitron or FE241. Been that way for years but almost everybody just generically refers to them all as Halon out of habit.

Great eye opening video. Def need to consider making changes to my loadout

The way I look at the Element is the size allows for better/quicker location/reaction. It can be placed in better locations for quick reaction, but always have a backup 2.5 or 5 lbs

@AllTerrainFamily

Жыл бұрын

What's a good location and deployment time for a fire suppression tool that is ineffective? I mean you could just spit on the fire and have more effect, then move on to something that works.

@Natezoinks

Жыл бұрын

@@AllTerrainFamily ineffective on a barrel of burning gas? Sure. Small fire under the dash? Campfire out of control? It’s all about timing and containment, and if I can get to the Element in 5 seconds because of placement then that will be better then going to the back of the rig for the 5lbs bottle in 45 seconds.

@Natezoinks

Жыл бұрын

But don’t get me wrong, you “need” a backup to the Element, it’s by no means a sole solution.

@shawnomeara6153

Жыл бұрын

The element did absolutely zero to contain that fire. Clearly they are so ineffective, there’s very few situations they would help. You stash a 2.5lbs in very accessory locations, I see no reason to even bother with the element.

Great Video Harry. Really, really disappointed in the element extinguisher. I won’t be spending any money on one.

Great video, thank you!

Yeah BOYZ!!!!!! Good to see you experts sharing your knowledge. Now I'm a KZread Certified Fire Fighter. Just like Nick :)

Thanks for making this video you answered some recent questions I've had on types of extinguisher to carry

Wow - did not expect that out of the Element. Not sure if it was user error or what but the end result doesn't matter unless you are specifically trained to use it differently.

@donhappel9566

Жыл бұрын

My theory is the chimney effect of the fire in the engine bay prevented the low-pressure gas from the Element from reaching the base of the fire to actually put it out where the higher mass and pressure of the traditional extinguishers could cut through the updraft effect and smother the base. The longer reach of the traditional extinguishers also meant you didn't need to get quite as close to a large fire like that. In an open area where you could approach from lower the element would likely have been more effective. It literally may have been better to drop the Element into the fire in this case and let it work from there.

That element fire extinguisher seemed to piss off the fire!

Back to the drawing board Element, might want to make the extinguisher out of something non-flammable! 🔥 Guess I won't be buying one of those.

Thanks for all the great info! Definitely will be staying away from Element until they refine the recipe. This isn't the first vid I've seen where it basically has no effect.

I'll stick with chemical extinguisher than element. And thank you for sharing. I use to have halon. But it seems it was not good for mother nature. Although it did perform well on our Mazak Lazer when it caught fire. Just don't breath the fumes.

Excellent presentation.

Thanks for this!

Love the video. Great job harry and Nick. I have been looking at the element for years but definitely just going to pickup a couple more 2.5 b&c fire extinguishers. Easy storage easy access. Idk where i would store a 5lb in the trucks

@HarrySituations

Жыл бұрын

Yeah 5 lb extinguishers definitely take up some space! In my Ford it is no big deal but in the Jeep it does take up more room than I would like.

My God! How many stories does he have. Is almost like that kid in school who would tell you all these stories. But yet we're like in the 5th grade! My dad is an Astronaut, that's after he left the SEALS. That other gentleman has a lot of patience!

Great job trying to provide professional explanations and testing as much as possible. I can’t help but think of another video, don’t recall if it was an ultimate adventure or rockstar garage vid, but the Element extinguisher came in after two small (likely 2.5#) ran out, and the Element finally put out the fire. Still seems like a great backup to have since it fits in such small places.

@tiny_the_200

Жыл бұрын

Found it… kzread.info/dash/bejne/eWqLmKmQe7K0krA.html

Guess who’s buying new extinguishers this weekend!!!

The element was weak-sauce

Despite the results here I would still consider carrying an Element. I do carry a traditional 2.5 lb ABC currently strapped to the cage but would gladly supplement it with an Element at the A-pillar. It's fairly cheap and it's super small. Clearly it has it's limits as demonstrated here but this one attempt does not represent all situations. It would however be great to see additional independant tests carried out on real-world type fires instead of just the simple "here' some burning material on the ground in calm conditions" stuff you often see in other videos.

@HarrySituations

Жыл бұрын

When we made this I learned that there are lots of other videos out there on the Element, all with similar results.

@HarrySituations

Жыл бұрын

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@HarrySituations

Жыл бұрын

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@shawnomeara6153

Жыл бұрын

Why carry something that’s clearly ineffective? I’m bewildered by how many people seem to have drank the element koolaid. They are garbage.

how does the Purple K agent compare to the standard dry chemical used in most ABC extinguishers?

@HarrySituations

Жыл бұрын

Good question. I’m not familiar with Purple K but hopefully Nick will chime in.

@compaq2441

Жыл бұрын

They are known as a K guard. They are for grease fires in commercial restaurants. They work great against vehicle fires....but they typically cost several hundred dollars for a 10lb unit. They have a alkali mix in them that creates foam when it hits oil or grease that removes air from the triangle and the foam carries the heat away.

@donhappel9566

Жыл бұрын

Would also be interesting to see FireAde tested. It's basically an aerosol can of suppressant foam. I know some of the hill-climb sanctioning bodies back east have marshals carry it for quick-response before a full-size fire extinguisher can make it to an accident but I've never seen it in action.

@dmanbluesfreak

Жыл бұрын

@@donhappel9566 I'd also love to see how FireAde compares. It seems similar to element in the fact that it's not the same looking as a fire extinguisher, but I think that's where the similarities end.

I always thought fire extinguishers were just for hitting the bad guys in the head in action movies.

@donhappel9566

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes you can use the to break off a lock on a door too.

@harouttorkomian5897

Жыл бұрын

😊

Good info, music was way too loud and distracting at points.

well thats disappointing

What good are fire extinguishers in a vehicle in the summer time in hotter climates? Most extinguishers have operating temperatures of -40 to 120 degrees. Worse came to worse if there was suddenly a fire after the extinguisher had been sitting in the car all day itd be useless.

Holy crap, 12 mins into the video and y’all are still standing in the same place just talking.

@michaelmartin4111

Жыл бұрын

Where can we watch your video to save time?

Unfortunately this video has a shocking amount of misinformation. I was stunned to hear a 'professional fire fighter' say that halon is safe to breathe. Totally the opposite is true. Halon is HIGHLY TOXIC and when exposed to heat releases phosgene gas which is incredibly poisonous and can cause serious nerve damage or death. In addition the fires tested were well beyond the scope of a handheld extinguisher. This explains why NONE of the extinguishers truly put any of the fires out. While I applaud you guys on wanting to make a video to educate people, this video has too much wrong with it to make it a credible information source. Shame because stuff from Harry's Situations is normally really good.