Bluetti has responded with this- "Sorry for the problem and the delay reply We already purchase a diesel heater and do a experiment, EB3A can't load the diesel heater, the start-up current of the diesel heater is too high, we need to do more test and modify the hardware to meet more customer's demand. But for now, the EB3A can't load the diesel heater by cigarette lighter port. Kindly let us know, if you have any questions. Thank you for your patient and understand as always." This is a shame as they say the hardware needs changed. I was hoping a firmware update would resolve this..

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

@@Flashvette That makes sense! Interesting. I wish the eb3a would run it

@KWUnt

Жыл бұрын

I have been reading guys have the same issues on other models and it's a faulty socket. Bluetti seem to have integrity issues.

Types of people that try to power their whole house off of a eb3a.

@Bacon7666

4 ай бұрын

And they invite their neighbors to bring their stuff over and plug their stuff on the same box as well.😄

@SolarMinerPH

3 ай бұрын

and expect it to run overnight

@Bound4Earth

4 күн бұрын

Right they don't do any research and wonder why it isn't working right and instantly blame everyone else. So many negative ratings on Amazon because people look at the picture and them get mad because pictures don't give you relative size all the time. These people are just hating life constantly, everyone else at fault.

I had a similar frustrating issue with my Oupes 600w. I got an icemaker 100/120v 60w. It showed the Jackery 500 powering an Igloo ice maker. Mine errors out soon as the compressor kicks on & after research said it spikes to 800w during that time. I knew I was SOL. I tried putting it on a 1440 joules surge protector to no avail. No luck. I was looking to purchase this but not now. Thanks for the honest review.

Unfortunately, the DC output is regulated so it can't handle a surge like the AC inverter can handle. I have the EB3a and use the cigarette output to run electronics on my boat. Depth finders are extremely voltage sensitive so having the regulated output really helps in that situation. The weight on the EB3a is great for my application. I could use a marine battery, and have done so, but the output isn't regulated so the depth finders will occasionally shut off. Not a big deal but a pain to restart them. I also have the AC200max and can run my RV all day with it. Of course, it won't run the AC but it does fine with the refrigerator, compressor fridge, all the lights, etc. It will run the furnace blower, microwave, coffee maker, and anything else but that burns through the battery quickly. It also weighs over 60 pounds so "portability" is more of an issue I guess you'll need to get either a bigger unit( though other Bluettis may have the same issue on the DC side) or find another brand with an unregulated DC outlet. I have been a bit disappointed with the EB3a in some regards. The actual wattage available through the inverter is below 80% but over 90% with the DC side. I love the concept of these "solar generators" but all of them have a way to go before they are a dependable power source.

These diesel heaters do really use when starting a higher amp then mentioned.. tried to use regular adapter 15a but couldn't handle the start up.. added a small 12v battery to the set up with a 10a adapter.. this works fine

I bought this unit but I also was a skeptic so I also bought Dr prepare powermax 100ah battery power station which is awesome and you plug units together for longer charge life or run separately.

Wow, that power station looks impressive! The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a great investment for outdoor enthusiasts like us. The massive capacity and fast charging time definitely caught my attention. It's also great to know that it's waterproof and has comprehensive protections. Thanks for sharing this valuable information!

A simple leisure battery (100ah) does me for running my heater (2kw) for 5 nights running for about 5 hours per night.

I updated my firmware through the app now it powers my diesel heater for 10 hours

I agree with you in not buying the EB3A. It does have issues especially the overheating issue while charging.

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

I have heard of this happening. Although I personally haven't experienced it

Did you try using the app to adjust the output generated? I forgot the name of the option. But many options to isolate and customize the performance. Then again, i suppose Bluetti would coach you through it if that was a viable option

I just use a 110 to 12 volt converter with my ecoflow, works sweet. I didnt even try it with the 10 amp power point port.

Was about to do this setup tonight and make the same purchases! Glad I saw this about the Bluetti - so question. What did you end up buying for power on you diesel heater?? Thanks!!!

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

I ran down to harbor freight and picked up the jackery 290. Runs it awesome. I did a few overland style videos showing it off

@overandoutkentucky

Жыл бұрын

@@ModernDayViking would that be good recommendation overall for the Jackery model over the Bluetti then?

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

@@overandoutkentucky Honestly yeah, from my testing, my jackery ran my 70watt laptop for almost 8 hours. while the bluetti did just about 4 hours. The only benifit is the bluetti can run 600watt. Nothing I use on my trips need that.

@ksull72487

Ай бұрын

​​@@ModernDayVikingYeah I think your best bet is Jackery. By far the best customer support you will get. That or Eco Flow. Bluetti has some great products but the QC just isn't there. Eco Flow and Jackery have 5 year warranty. Even the Jackery Explore 240 - 290 is older than plus series. Has an inferior battery. The battery does not matter if the unit isn't up to task. Jackery has proved itself even with the older tech. Stick with the Jackery! Trust me. You need these units to last until they don't. Bluetti is nothing but great ideas and lots of headaches out of a box.

@ksull72487

Ай бұрын

​@@ModernDayVikingYup. Jackery is closer on their efficiency too not a full 120 volt tho more like 110 on the older ones. Still they just deliver. Eco Flow also good but like you said run down to local harbor and freight. Lol their customer service in America is good too.

I wonder if one of those super capacitors they use on automotive audio system close to the heater end of the cable would work to handle the surge and solve the problem?

@SewingBoxDesigns

9 ай бұрын

I vaguely remember hearing about a surge regulator for RV AC units that might be useful.

Good luck getting help from Bluetti , so many complaints that they never answer the phones and emails. I'm switching companies for my next power bank.

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

They did reach out to me and let me know they are going to get this information over to their engineering team. I will keep everyone updated on this topic

@Tommyr

Жыл бұрын

@@ModernDayViking You are very, very lucky.

ALP propane generator running an electric 500 w heater, Analy or something like that. Those 500w heaters are great and settle at 450 w.

use the app and shut off eco mode and bump power up in the app. worked for me on my same setup as yours.

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

I have eco mode shut off on mine

@StuffMeDaddy89

Жыл бұрын

@@ModernDayViking have you tryed bumpong the power up after eco mode shut off? crappy its not working for you! im sorry man somthing is wrong.

Just ordered one of these. Whenever I see a "DON'T BUY"...that's my cue to buy!😀

@lua-nya

11 ай бұрын

I got one too! I don't need to run diesel burners off it though.

@gravityslave6277

6 ай бұрын

Yep. Usually it's because they're using the wrong unit for the application. He's trying to power a cheap Chinese diesel Amazon heater. I bought this Bluetti. It's worth it. I use it to power LED lights in my tiny camper. Runs all night. How has it been for you?

I am disappointed also with the EB3A. The voltage drops down to under 8V and the Vevor can't run under 9V. Bluetti isn't hold the voltage under load.

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Yeah its very strange. I also found that compared to my Jackery 290 it dies very fast. There is a 22wh difference in compacity. But the EB3A Runs my laptop for 4 hours. While the 290 runs for 7 Hours. Seems the AC inverter at least on my unit is very inefficient

@PhoRunner

Жыл бұрын

@@ModernDayViking I noticed this also. I only got it because it’s a lifepo battery compared to the jackery.

Im just going to toss on my experience with the bluetti EB3A. Basically got it as a daytime/solar power source for our 60 watt fridge. At night it sips power from our older off brand 660 watt station. In the mornings we have from 66 to 34% left on the old thing. The Bluetti drains in 2 hours and claims the fridge is pulling 70 to 90 watts even on a cold morning when the thermometers inside it and the fridge both show the temps at settings. The bluetti has heated up so bad the past three days with the internal 'adaptor' rather than a 'brick' type, I've had to put a lunch box blue ice block on it to get it to even charge. I bought a suggested 12v charging cord for it that will charge the old station but not the bluetti. It's more trouble than it's worth. Also, everyone said, don't get the bluetti solar panel that goes with it. They were right. Three days later, still no response from bluetti, despite our concern that this thing keeps giving a heat warning with no explanation in the instructions. Good luck with your search!

Something doesn't seem right. Problem with the unit itself? Have you tested it in other applications? Ive been using mine to power a tiny camper with LED lights, a heating pad, PS3 and small OLED TV with no issues. (Not all at the same time mind you)

Great video as always ❤

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I purchased 2 of these to be used as a UPS for 2 computer systems. Both failed miserably. One kept shutting off on 'overload' while the other one kept interrupting the current on and off repeatedly making it completely unusable as a pass through power source. Neither was able to work properly. The one that shut off on overload had a 90 watt load on it when this happened. The other one had a 208 watt load during the time it kept shutting off and on. Bluetti has not figured out how to make a reliable power station in this size. Do not buy. I read where one fellow who connected his CPAP woke up gasping for air with his shut off during the night. Not cool, Bluetti.

@bc_usa

11 ай бұрын

Oh no!!! Gasping for air!!!😮😮😮 It's Bluettis fault!!! 🤔

@SewingBoxDesigns

9 ай бұрын

Scary as hell, which is why we don't use ours at night until the off brand replacement shows up. Just too dangerous to have in a van with the over heating issue.

I run my diesel heater off of a marine battery and battery box I wonder if you could start it off of a marine battery then once it gets going plug the solar generator to the battery via cigarette 12v plug to help run the heater. Glow plugs require a lot of amps that’s the problem I’m pretty sure it would run it after it was started I ordered the EB3A today but to run small stuff mostly AC I hope it works

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Hope it works better for you. I picked up a jackery 290 from harbor freight. It runs the heater great. It Also runs my laptop for about 3 hours longer than the eb3a...all and all the Bluetti has been disappointing me around every turn

A lot of good voltage regulators will shut down before blowing a fuse. Since a fuse is slower, you can get by with quick overloads for a short duration. Those automotive capacitors used in audio systems provide surge power for higher power spikes without so much distortion should be capable of providing your heater with surge power. It seems bad to not recommend a product because they use a regulator responsive enough to prevent blowing a lot of fuses. If you want surge power, add an external battery or capacitor to provide the extra power during the surge. A jump starter box could solve the problem since they can deliver enough power to start a vehicle.

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Jackery 290 does it fine. I do not recommend this product because it advertises running a certain amp via DC and does not do what is advertised.

@rneal63

9 ай бұрын

@@ModernDayViking I've been trying to think of the ultimate solution for your heater but I'm not sure of how you plan to recharge it. A 12V 50 A/H lifepo4 battery would give you over 600 w/h of power, over 2X the EB3A, and capable of running your heater but you would need a charger for it.

Needs to be put on PowerLift mode then you should be able to pull more power should've read the manual and downloaded the app

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

It Is. Doesn't change 12v DC. You should read manual. 😬

I've read on a lot of forums that Jackery is the only brand that will start these things. So, it's not that the Bluetti is junk, it's just not designed for starting a diesel heater. They demand a LOT at startup. You could also try going through a Xbox power supply from the heater to the battery. I've read a lot of people doing this.

WOW ! that seams like asking too much for any PPS. I use a 12v lighter socket electric blanket.

@ModernDayViking

10 ай бұрын

I don't think so, my Jackery and bougeRV power station can do it fine

This is an issue for any small power station. I don't think any small battery station is rated to handle that, perhaps read more. This is a reading issue not a manufacturing issue.

@ModernDayViking

4 күн бұрын

My jackery 290, handles it fine 🙂 and is rated the same

This isn't for a heater of any kind,it's mostly for small appliances

I tried as well to run my chinese diesel heater from my eb3a. Error code E 08…not enough voltage…as soon as i hooked the heater up to my car battery it worked fine

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I would send it back if you can. I am using a jackery 290 now. Runs it great

@daylight2004

Жыл бұрын

@@ModernDayViking cheers, i’ll be sending it back, as i’ve also experienced other issues.

Man, I hate that for you. Please be sure to update us IF you hear from Bluetti.

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Bluetti has reached out and is communicating with the engineering team, I will continue to update on the situation.

I’ve had great communication with Bluetti.

I have the 3 and the 700 with no probs,,don't be cheep and do ur research,,, always go the next step higher then u figure!

I’m considering Jackery 300 vs Ecoflow River 2 vs Bluetti. Should I just go with Jackery?

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

I would say jackery.. that's just my opinion though

@rainacherienne1010

Жыл бұрын

@@ModernDayViking Thanks, that’s helpful.

Wonder why I have 2 battery’s in my diesel truck? (Grid heaters? ) 😂

Do Not buy a Jackery (worst than Bluetti), trust me, Buy an Ecoflow Delta Mini.

Did you try the 100w USB-C off the EB3A?

@craigbutler623

6 ай бұрын

Diesel heaters usually draw close to 150 amps for the preheat.

I was able to start 5kW noname air heater out of 12Vsb 7А PSU. Sound reasonable to check if properly primed air heater will start on minimal power, as it consumes 110-120W for ignition as glow plug consumes lots of power, then the consumption falls to 40W average. The other possible issue is bad car plug with led and fuse - it drops down voltage, that's why you probably can't start your air heater.

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Just an issue with the EB3A not handling the load. My jackery 290 runs the heater fine

Tried it one more time, by adding a 12v battery to the Buetti.

This unit which I bought has a place in the light enough for your wife to carry and operate section of battery units. I also bought it for short vehicle travelling where small type electronic devices need to be charged. Phones, laptop, ipad and can be at the same time charging the unit with the 12v car charger NOT incuded. ($10)

Others find the EB3A with no issues. You cannot just have minimum or close enough. You need to do the math.....

You need to buy Ecoflow river 2 i have diesel heater use it for camping ecoflow river2 work great the price is 209$ much more better that Jackery 3000 life cycle to 80% percent or 10 years of work and 50 minutes to fully charge ftom 0% to 100% but . Jackery charging time is 5 hours and has only 300 life cycle

Yeah , I tried it on my diesel heater, suddenly it doesn't work , just waste of money 🤮

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Yup! Same here. Big paper weight for me lol

How did it "blow" the fuse at 60 watts? That makes no sense. There is definitely something wrong with your EB3A. I have an EB3A and it has some issues also. I discovered mine will only output 60 watts from the 100 watt USB-C power delivery port. And it will show an error code when I try to pull more than 300 watts from the "600 watt" inverter. If you are interested I can show you how I run my diesel heater. It's much cheaper than buying the Bluetti EB3A.

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Less about Watts and more about amps. That port is 12v @10amp. It seems the Bluetti shuts that port down from the spike of the glow plugs starting. Shame. I sent them an email to see if they will address the 12v port issue not holding 12v @10amp

@troyyarbrough

Жыл бұрын

@@ModernDayViking The cigarette lighter socket is supposed to be regulated at 13.3 volts. So, at 10 amps it should be able to crank out 133 watts. Do the glow plugs spike higher than that?

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

@@troyyarbrough tested on a jackery 290. I saw 115wat max on start up. Bluetti definitely has some safety settings not allowing the spike even though it's within spec

What did he expect!

the surge of starting it was never gonna happen

Seems like a higher tier unit is needed to run your heater. Power demand is too great for the unit. I don't see the problem with the unit. The company offers higher tier decides, no?

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Jackery 290 runs it easy.

they are garbage ive been though 2 of them first what they do is this.. if you dont set up eco mode and if you then forget to turn it off ie usb ports etc and you get to 0% you can just toss it in the garbage the bms does not protect it against under voltage ive had 2 do this to me.. no response from the company as to why it does this so if you forget to turn on the eco thing and set a time your screwed also im curiouse if you have eco mode on and reach 0% will it not take a charge either.. i mean 300 dollars down the drain.. im going with another quality company that other one

I dont think its Bluettis fault. I dont think you planned very well.

@ModernDayViking

11 ай бұрын

Does not really make sense seeing how on paper, the DC output can handle the heater. But okay, thanks for the quality comment.

You knew the output was 10a and the running amperage of the heater was 10a. Starting amps of the heater will be indeed a lot higher. (I wouldn't be surprised it is actually in the manual of the heater. You cant blame bluetti for your own mistake.

@ModernDayViking

6 ай бұрын

The heater pulls under 10a. Maxes out at about 8.4a on my other testing. Bluetti can not handle the high draw at once even under 10a. That is why bluetti is to blame 😁

also when charging and or using solar to charge if you are using the usb or ups function and its morning time suns just barely out and you use some percentage of battery what it will do is this.. charge it up to 100% then stop charging then let it go down to say 97% then start charging stopping and starting this is reallly bad for the battery any old litheum charger for 12 volt lead acid batts etc uses the panels you have to power the device and charge and keep powering the devices you use the way this thing works is oposite it will charge it up then turn off then start again and keep doing that all day long now with ups mode and hooked into a wall it wont do that its only on charging.. bluuettie what gives man i wasted 600 dollars on 2 of these.. that other company lets you use panels to power stuff and protects the battery from totally draining what gives im pissed

thky

That deisel heater is crap. Used the same one last canadien winter and notuing but issues every week. I have a bluetti ac200max its dc plug is higher and also has a 30 amp dc output . I switched to a dickwnson propane heater.

@ModernDayViking

10 ай бұрын

I've used it about 20 times with no issues. Starts right up every time. I let it sit for a month and it started right up with no issues. I'm not sure why so many people have issues with these. Maybe bad QC or user error?

@mrchrisknight315

10 ай бұрын

@@ModernDayViking probably bad QC, I research a lot. No matter what I tried it would never work for more then a week straight. I always kept an eye on the casing temp and kept it at proper self atomizing diesel temperature, tried the run on full blast for 5 minutes before the shut down procedure, tried additives. So I ended up jumping ships. Good luck with yours, they are amazing when they work. 👍🏾

great

You are wrong!

The EB3A is also underpowered and it does not have any port to connect an extra battery to increase the capacity.

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

The power doesn't bother me to bad since it is under a dollar per wh it's a soild budg option

Get a converter

Have you ever considered reading an instruction manual before you make a video? Just saying...

@ModernDayViking

9 ай бұрын

Please enlighten me how that would help?

Huge waste of money. Actual useable Watts. About 240 ! Real life usage. What would you want to leave on for 7 hrs? A 500W heater. This Bluetti will not power it but for 1.75 hrs tops. What about a TV for 6hrs? Hmmm? Then you must recharge it. Waste of money. Look at it this way. Nobody's talking about this low Watt available over the long haul for the nite or day. 240W ÷ 7 hrs = 34 W useable per hr before it's empty. Nobody's talking about this talking point.

I'm sending mine back, worst piece of garbage I've ever bought, will never buy another Bluetti product

@ModernDayViking

Жыл бұрын

Same here unfortunately I can't send mine back lol

@gravityslave6277

6 ай бұрын

Quit being so dramatic 🙄