1:16 bro you hit on some gold here. I absolutely despise the mono-pose modelling GW's gone with for modern (post-6th edition) kits where the model only has one pose but there's 69 individual pieces to glue together for that model. It makes zero sense, it would've been so much easier if they stuck with the prior method of 2 pieces for the chest, 2 arms and a set of legs with gear options. The old Space Marine tactical squad kit was a thing of beauty.

@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber

Ай бұрын

I love that box - and the current one (2013?) has so many bits left over!

@maxmagnus377

Ай бұрын

The conspiracy theorist in me would say that this is because GW do not want you kitbashing stuff. It's a loss in value for them for you pick up some janky 2nd hand abused old models, strip their paint, chop off some limbs and glue on the spares you had already. And god forbid you do that with (brace yourself) *3rd party bits*... All that is money not spent with them, and they hate that! Realistically, this might be a thing, but it's just as likely that the fancy 3d-modelled new models they make just don't allow for easy varied assembly options. Either way, it's quite a loss for us, and often leads to having to spend a LOT more than we'd want if we want to wysiwyg our models. If you want 3 5-man squads of scourges with any one special weapon you have to buy 15 kits... My advice: Unless you plan on playing big official tournaments, just build them how you can and state clearly before any game what each squad is actually equipped with.

@jamesespinosa690

Ай бұрын

@@maxmagnus377 Thats what they think sure. But any good economist will explain how giving customers all this "extra value" "for free", is actually a good thing. They've got a bunch of fucking morons running things over there sadly.

@EmperorSigismund

Ай бұрын

Exactly. I have hundreds of old plastic Cadians with lasguns but no two look the same. Even a slight tilt of the head, a bayonet or a slight shifting of belt accesories clearly set two models apart without making them stand out.

Protip; if you want more MultiMeltas or a Multimelta from the basic sisters kit; snip the barrels off of the Meltaguns in the Sisters kit, and replace the flamer barrels on the heavy flamer. Looks good enough.

@leovaeg

Ай бұрын

also a lot of space marine tanks have those little "exhaust vents" like on top of rhinos, landraiders, etc - those can easily double as melta barrels :)

@mr.organa7154

Ай бұрын

Same with the chain gun on Chaos Space Marines. I clipped the enda off thr heavy bolters and used the assault cannon end off the old Space Marine Land Speeder. But you can't get that model anymore.

Box-locking is tremendously irritating. It makes units like the Traitor Guard needlessly weak, since they end up not being able to do anything particularly well, and actively punishes people who make conversions- which used to be a central part of the 'hobby' side of the game. Making older character models practically unplayable because a new model came out with different weapons is even worse.

@loupdeguerre

Ай бұрын

It's teh thing I don't like about modern GW. Really it started when 3d printing started to become mainstream but more and more they make box locked, monopose units that have so little variability between them you very quickly run into clones when you got another box. It's way more difficult to make unique models nowaday, especially for a beginner, and by design heavily discouraged. I also tremendously dislike the "DLC-like" mentality of GW the older I get. Give me my bloody minis with all the options and stop changing rules every three months or trying to bugger me into buying another 50 bucks box for 1 multimelta...

@dizzymcfizzy

Ай бұрын

As someone who converted a traitor guard army, I feel your pain. Honestly, I wouldn't even mind it if they could make actually good base rules, but now they cant even manage that anymore. Every edition now just gets more bland and boring.

@Majere613

Ай бұрын

@@dizzymcfizzy I have a large Traitor Guard force myself, they've been running as Loyalists with a bit of a problem sticking to uniform regs for something like three editions now!

Tau players are still very, very mad about the Crisis suit box-locking. I totally get the anxiety y'all are feeling.

@redspec01

Ай бұрын

Yeah, having choices was one of the major perks to being Tau. From GW pov, it’s impossible to balance the different weapon choices at just one point’s value

@samuelalexandermarkovnikov891

Ай бұрын

@@redspec01 I mean it would probably have helped matters if CIBs weren't far and away the best (and therefore ONLY) choice.

@redspec01

Ай бұрын

@@samuelalexandermarkovnikov891yeah, or if they limited it to one per army. But things change.

@thetimebinder

Ай бұрын

CIB aren't even in the normal Crisis Suits at all.

@redspec01

Ай бұрын

You are all correct. Not sure if the free wargear makes things any easier for a new/causal player

As a Daemons player it’s always fun looking over the fence and seeing the grass isn’t always greener. We have our own issues but this isn’t really one of them. Great vid :)

@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber

Ай бұрын

Thanks. You daemons and your units being compatible for Old World, Age of Sigmar and 40k

I play none of these armies, but I still watched the video because why not.

@swiigglleew.7192

Ай бұрын

Same here!

@sir_tacothe1st

Ай бұрын

Same

@Itsallover57

Ай бұрын

If you didn't you wouldn't be able to build any moremodels

@GhostofGaunt4949

Ай бұрын

@@Itsallover57 Well last I check the Vampire on the screen isn't gonna bust in my home lile the FBI.

@OniGanon

Ай бұрын

Well it's an issue to think about for any faction that's still waiting on their codex.

i am that guy with just mining lasers

@piratepyro9391

Ай бұрын

same

I hope they change the canoness options to be a simple, pick a pew pew weapon, pick a stabby pokey stick, and as 3rd option pick a fancy stick that may or may not shoot flames.

@mortenchristiansen5884

Ай бұрын

I hope instead of reroll hits they have her unit reroll wounds (jump pack version at least) :P

@OniGanon

Ай бұрын

@@mortenchristiansen5884 That could be useful but also anti-synergistic with the Immolator.

OR: Just tell your opponent “Oh yea btw my squad has two heavy flamers in it, even though model wise one is holding a multi melta. See it says so right here on my army list.” Or something similar, and not worry so much about every single model having exactly what you are bringing.

As an Astra mIlitarum player I am very worried for my infantry squads

@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber

Ай бұрын

same - they don't sell the heavy weapon with the unit and I don't want to have to compile a weird heavy weapon squad

@luketfer

Ай бұрын

Yeah the Imperial Guard are going to be hit by both Box Locking AND the massive 40k forgeworld culling in the future...

@MagicHjalti

Ай бұрын

What is astra militarum?

@cloaker2829

11 күн бұрын

​@@MagicHjaltiyou're in the guard son

If you have a 3d printer, Cults 3d has a free multi-melta head that you can print. You just chop off the heavy flamer's flamer heas and glue it on.

@youtubevanced4900

Ай бұрын

Why bother? Just print the whole thing

I remember when GW encouraged kit bashing and designed their kits around the hobby.

I absolutely dread the release of the Sisters codex. It felt like a kick to the gut when I saw the new combat patrol.

@Mouseling216

22 күн бұрын

how do you feel now?

@citizenrico42

21 күн бұрын

​@@Mouseling216 Pleasantly surprised

I am happy my jump pack canoness is back!

I was holding clippers and glue when it was said....I felt very attacked

10:52 to represent an even smaller group, my GSC are kitbashed tau who are heavily converted, i spent a lot of time making proxy mining lasers, missile launchers, and webbers who all are posed to respect the weight of the weapon and the posture you would take to use them. This puts me in a position where I'll be putting models on the shelf and starting from scratch to make new conversions with extra seismics and flamers etc

I think the core squads kept their heavy weapons because it makes the heavy weapon squads basically upgrades for the basic squad, raising the average final sale price.

@OniGanon

Ай бұрын

Smart. That's basically what happened to my first Retributor box.

They should really encourage kitbashing and varied loadout options more

Collecting space marines can be like this. It’ll say the Sargent can carry certain options and the box doesn’t come with these options.

This goes back to the Chapterhouse lawsuit. They don't want to have to deal with someone selling models for ones that have rules but no physical presence anymore. GW is doing this very much intentionally, they got stung once by a small company that actually stood up to them and are being over cautious.

For once, my tendency to prefer variety over efficiency might have shielded me. I often don't double up even when it's a possibility just cause "ohh, flamers are neat... but grenade launchers are ALSO neat..." Hooray for weird personal decisions that anticipate weird corporate decisions!

Good thing I don’t play wysiwyg, I just say to my opponents what each group is carrying

@maxmagnus377

Ай бұрын

This! I really wish more content creators mentioned this. It's always "If you build them as..." Beesh, if I wanna build them with certain weapons I'm forced to quadruple the cost of an already cripplingly expensive hobby! Just build them however the box allows and state before the game who actually has what. If you want to be extra careful then get some rolls of coloured masking tape, colour code your wargear choices and put a little strip of tape on the base. I'm not buying 12 boxes of scourges just to have 3x4 dark lances, there's enough long barreled options in that box to build it however the box allows, and if anyone doesn't want to play with me cause my stuff isn't wysiwyg then honestly screw that guy xD

As a World Eater player, we have one mode: Chainaxe. Weapon Options? Chainaxe. Would you like a Chainaxe? Here's a Chainaxe. Go have fun, be back by lunch 😊

@violetchan6402

17 күн бұрын

this is precisely why i switched around to generic csm once i saw how little variety there was in the new WE codex. like.. i wanted my funny chain axe wielding angry men, but there's gotta be more to it than that for me to be interested

@woahhbro2906

17 күн бұрын

@@violetchan6402 Agreed. Heresy World Eaters had those giant spiked balls hanging from a chain. They should bring those back. The Dishonored Jakhal model has one, but an entire unit would be cool. I think they were called 'Ravagers' or something.

@violetchan6402

17 күн бұрын

@@woahhbro2906 sounds rad, wish we got that in the codex. the worst part about modern WE to me is that the entirety of their generic chaos models were just removed and not accounted for, only given the bare minimum to still be an army. you basically have to rely on ally units to fill niches, like knights for shooting

@woahhbro2906

17 күн бұрын

@@violetchan6402 Yeah, we're in a weird place. Hopefully we get more stuff when the codex come out. I'm hoping it's more than one singular character model, but beggers can't be choosers, I guess

If you're not playing tournaments, just use the old datasheet with the explanation that GW are GW. I'm still using the SM datasheet for chaplain that got superseded by the chaplain (not primaris but fixed primaris loadout) datasheet.

Thank you. This reminds me of when I bought my first box of Hearthkyn Warriors (Leagues of Votann) and wanted to give one of them a HYLas Rotary Cannon, but there were none on the sprue since that wasn't a unit option for them in 9th and the instruction manual wasn't updated to reflect that. So I had to go buy a little STL and print them.

I am hoping that they will release an upgrade sprue for the Sororitas, which ought to have arms, backpack, and weapon for a multi-melta. Would be nice if it also had a multipart cherub or something. We have lots of bits already, but more multimeltas and more cherubs wouldn't hurt.

@OniGanon

Ай бұрын

You can cut some unnecessary cherubs from vehicles, and take the cherubs from Retributor squads you cannibalise for the Multimeltas.

@BronzeRivet

Ай бұрын

@@OniGanon "unnecessary cherubs"???

@OniGanon

Ай бұрын

@@BronzeRivet Immolators and Exorcists come with decorative cherubs. Battle Sisters have an cherub on one of their two Simulacrum options. The Triumph of St Katherine comes with five cherubs, two of which are necessary to hold up the coffin, three are just hanging out holding up parchment.

@BronzeRivet

Ай бұрын

@@OniGanon Right, right, but I want more, different cherubs.

I'm happy the Guard Infantry Squad, and Platoon Command Squad can still take Heavy Weapons Teams. Hopefully when we get our codex it doesn't get rid of that.

@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber

Ай бұрын

Hoping and praying that my very heavy infantry focused army is still valid

I’m gonna be so mad if the Canoness loses the Rod of Office. I just made a RoO canoness conversion out of the lead sister on the Triumph and if I lose her I’ma flip several tits

Boxlocked? *cries in drukhari*

@thetimebinder

Ай бұрын

Cries in Scourges

I've been looking at starting a sisters army. But I'm really hesitant about doing that.

I hate that we have to keep thinking about this kind of thing. It's not enough that the point changes severely limit what weapons are useable at all... Horus Heresy looks so good as a system right now. Just give me 40k faction rules for that game and i will never look back

Already planned on magnetising my acolytes and building enough neophytes to have a decent spread of heavy and special weapons anyway. It’s always great to have your decision vindicated by our friendly neighbourhood vampire overlord

Forcing you to take different special weapons leads to one of worst outcomes imo in this game which is overcomplicating the shooting phase with multiple weapon profiles per-squad all with different strengths, ranges, keyword abilities etc. and still only being able to activate one unit at a time meaning you are doing the same annoying process of seperating out shots in a cycle for every unit. on top of that it's almost like having less unit options since like mentioned in this video, all of a sudden there's no distinction between the flamer/seismic squad and the grenade/laser squad, every neophyte unit will be equipped the same because it's the "best loadout"

In the US the missionary and preacher are easy to find on Amazon because I've got both fairly recently

Painting exclusive collectors keep winning. 🙌

I miss the customization a lot of the units used to have. Units feel bland these days.

They need to release Pious Vorne for the preacher, actually has the flaming chainsword and looks so much better.

I don’t play almost any of my models from the sisters combat patrol box anymore simply because I don’t have weapons that are actually helpful in larger tables Etc. seraphim only having bolt pistols

As someone who's used alot of necromunda gangs for different squads and had multiple of the same loadout for each one, this is pretty annoying, swapping around the squads makes it look weird

Man I wish I had known

@maxmagnus377

Ай бұрын

I bet that even that one they can make a massive disappointment compared to the old one. It's just going to be the old box but without the Scarab Occults or Infernal Master xD Just Tzaangors and a Tzaangor Shaman.

@deadfox852

Ай бұрын

@maxmagnus377 your probably not wrong. That's of course if they decide to redo it.

2:36 tangentially, it’s one of those things that makes me worry about intecessors and power weapons for the sargents. You used to not be able to take power weapons, but now you can, but strictly speaking…there aren’t any power weapons in the box.

Reject the meta, embrace the guard!

Im new what does he mean by dominion rules

@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber

Ай бұрын

the Sisters of Battle box can be built as two units 'Battle Sisters' and 'Dominions' (fast attack sisters)

@burtbiggum499

Ай бұрын

@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Oh shit thats cool

Or... if you are like me and play with friends you allow rule of cool. You play by the rules, but build the model however you like.

For me its not a problem anymore when i made 4 drills 4 scissors and 4 saws for my acolytes and now its just one statline

But… but I just bought $200 usd of kits on Sunday. Finally picked up a triumph! Also Celestine and two retributior boxes Oh wait, whew. I should be fine

the new chaos marines codex has been the final straw for me. my exalted champion i put together from bits is no longer legal, despite being sold as a ready made model up until very recently. i will no longer be buying 40k rules or trying to chase the 40k scene. my models are my models, and not going to let a company dictate who can carry what. weird how the same business can drop models every few months with one range, but for Horus Heresy you can still buy a big "wow! i can't believe it's all autocannons and heavy bolters!" box, purely for conversion purposes. if they don't care, why should i

God bless the first born kits

"the currend meta follows my video" aka you made the currend Sisters Meta!

About that glue... Get poster tack! That stuff holds arms and guns together well enough in nearly all cases making even magnetising unnecessary in many cases.

I just had 40 cultists printed with guns...now i can finaly use all the combat weapons i got with Drukhari cause GW wants the cultists where i dont want them, in combat.

I’m sure the marketing geniuses at Games Workshop understand consumer psychology better than I, however just you saying “11th” edition makes my PTSD act up. I didn’t really get into 40k at all until 9th edition, and everything I learned changed not longer after with 10th. I find their overly complex system of models and load outs to be one of the key reasons I haven’t purchased anything. I was going to make a sister of Battle list for a local tournament, it would have cost me $400, for 1000 point lists. I could afford it, but that isn’t how I’d like to spend my money for a single list. If they would just stop all this craziness, perhaps they could enlarge the player base. Perhaps they don’t care. I don’t know, but while I like to watch videos like these, they also server (by no fault of yours) to keep me from the game.

Honestly... It wasnt 2 years with the 9th edition codex..... That was the best codex... also i want one of them baneblade dozer goliath rock trucks. the earth shaker as a lord of war.... and i want the magus and the pat to actually do some psychic shit damn it all

Selling incomplete boxes is ridiculous and I can’t believe people keep buying this shit.

Fortunately, for people who really want the Combat Patrol Canoness, eBay is absolutely redolent with them (and other monopose kits from the box)

@OniGanon

Ай бұрын

Probably a lot of them from the Imperium magazine.

Love ya vids and your in depth looks into the parts and stuff too. Overall I think GW is just driving me more and more to buying a 3D printer.

@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber

Ай бұрын

thank you, I'm glad you have enjoyed my videos

If the Battle Sisters lose the Multimelta there ought to be a bloody riot, considering that's one of the damage dealers in the army. Feels pretty bad to get punished for GW's mistakes in sprue choices.

@dudemcfurgusson7179

Ай бұрын

They should redesign the sprue, since the celestians don't exist anymore the extra 10 helmets is just wasted space. Move things around and stuff a multi-melta in there. Barring that, we also don't need two separate sculpts for the simulacrum. Get rid of the goofy box with the cherub sticking off it, and toss the melta there.

See this is why I remember 2nd-5th editions fondly. No half-ass bullshit by GW. The models were all basically locked to set options. You couldn't get box locked because there was no variation!

The one upside to being a World Eaters player is that we've lost so much that now we can only win. We did lose an insane amount of units in 9th, but since we got all of our new stuff AFTER Games Workshop went down this path of forced simplicity, we don't have any massive multi-weapon kits anymore. Berzerkers? Chainweapon and pistol. Unlikely to change. Jakhals? Small chainweapons with 3 upgrades. Unlikely to change. Eightbound and Exalted? Brand new models with only 2 weapons and 2 champion options. Unlikely to change. All our characters are loadout-locked, so no risk there. And if any of our "expanded range" options changed, it would still be a win. If the Helbrute got a new model, people would be ecstatic because the current one is definitely showing it's age. World Eaters players WANT new Terminators more than anything else. New units for the codex, box locked or not? Yes please. While it doesn't really excuse what's going on, I believe this is a painful transition to what is actually a decent goal on paper. I sincerely empathize with people who are now getting box-locked after previously having units that had these massive weapon options. But on the other hand, the huge variety of weapon options was itself a problem. You either had to glue, and thus make permanent, your choice of war gear and be stuck with it. Or you had to magnetize a SOUL DESTROYING amount of models just for the sake of being able to change war gear. A huge upside to having started World Eaters in 9th is that I don't have to make that painful choice. I simply assemble my excellent models and they work. The only thing I've had to magnetize was the Helbrute.

What will likely happen in regards to the fixed loadout Canoness is that GW will just make it where you can buy her separately, similar to other models that were singles in a set. (Master of Possession, Phobos Captain, etc.) Not saying that is a good thing, especially with how they love to charge such a premium on such models.

@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber

Ай бұрын

and the cultist box from Blackstone fortress that went from £20 for 7 models to £21 for the Firebrand

man it's almost like GW does everything they do to encouraging more box sales because they're just floundering after teh drop of covid money that's approaching. I will have no problems, because i use a printer, if i need the bits or the model, i will MAKE the bits or models.

I lost my bitz box 😭

Pray to the emperor and you may be fine?? The super demon Kevin Rowntree laughs in your face

I'm done with 40k and love necromunda as well as HH, for me this is the way.

Never ever never ever use plastic glue. Only use cyanoacrylate (crazy glue)

I DONT LIKE BEING BOX LOCKED!

Where is your accent from? Sounds posh Geordie.

Hey If you want to play cultists with special weapons come join on team guard! Deathguard, our rules have changed.

Box locking is dumb and I shall ignore it

Insider here, the GSC box lock will be the return of the brood sect rule. Only one of each character from now on. Screen cap this, my dad works at Nintendo.

@Harry-cj3yu

Ай бұрын

Reject modernization, Return to 5th edition. While the rules are wacky and at least they don't change

Just don't look too closely at my models- I don't have the money to have four of each model just to have all the different weapon options available. I build what looks cool and use the appropriate datasheet as required. Don't be price-gated out of the game!

One page rules.

I'd probably be pretty pissed about my old cultist gunners no longer being WYSIWYG... if my cases of GW models didn't have actual years worth of dust on them... or they haven't been repeatedly fucking up my investment for years prior. Happy late Tukayyid Day, folks!

Am I the only one who prefers this? When I buy the box and don't get the options on the sheet I feel bad. So I prefer the rules match what is available

@DaBlueIghuana

Ай бұрын

I prefer having more options over less and having a full set of weapons that can be rolled together and are all effective against the target I choose. It’s annoying for those who want to plan out what their units are going to do, a plan generations in the making and all that.

@games-wz7sz

Ай бұрын

@@DaBlueIghuana idk, most votan and genesrealer kits have a ton of options

I love buying extra models for all the weapon options just to be told I cant take them now. Thanks GW, after a decade and a half I'm finally done with their scummy business practices.

if you have to play 40k where your stuck with whats on the model i won't play with you lmao , just say this one has that and be very specific ffs

Chaos marines and having an invalid army each codex release, name a better combo.

Warhammer is becoming a live service game. Oh you have last seasons miniatures? yeah you cant use those any more.

How dare you! GW would never mislead anyone.( Lmao) If you bullt them wrong,. just buy another box! GW won't mind that at all.

Why is an effeminate vampire telling me about 40K

TLDR: GW doing shitty GW things.

8th edition was the best

Just play grimdark future. It's a better game (in pretty much every way).

I fell for clickbait, thank you Christian, very cool

GW is the reason I don't play GW games. nerfs, bans, restrictions and removal of various units from one version of the rules to the next, will keep me from playing. the IGYG rules format is absolutely garbage. the removal of character design rules (Rogue trader), means players can only use things GW designed. players cannot personalize character or unit stats, which was available when the game was originally produced.

I actually agree with box locking i think it's a good thing and the more units that get box locked the better

Not a fan of your clickbaty video names and thumbnails. I understand it is for views but it makes me want to watch them less

Why are you using a stupid avatar thing in your video? Why is it dribbling on itself? Why does it look like it’s eating its own tongue. Really I’m back to why is this even a thing?

Don't play 10th edition because it's garbage anyway, FIXED!

it is so dumb when they only allow stuff from the kit - and make a shit kit.. I loved the 2nd Ed - 4th Ed where you could do whatever you wanted, even well. Loads of options that might not be easy to find or make, but if you were good.. I know you played then too.

Just go to Warmachine, they are just as good, great lore and models. I am sure they will take you in without the woke crap.