Don't Be That Guy At The Crag

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Stop crag-holes before they start. Mentor a gym-to-crag climber today. For more about the growing issue of crag etiquette and low-impact practices, download the May 2014 issue or head to www.climbing.com/mentors
Filmed by Climbing magazine staff photographer Ben Fullerton.
Written by Kevin Corrigan.

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  • @DennyPlank
    @DennyPlank2 жыл бұрын

    The casually tossing rocks part was my favorite

  • @chossclimber
    @chossclimber10 жыл бұрын

    Why isn't he blasting his obscure musical choices for everyone else to hear?

  • @lagerbaer

    @lagerbaer

    10 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I don't think I have ever been at a crag climbing and then suddenly thought to myself "Gee, I sure wish for some 80s hair metal played through crappy phone speakers."

  • @SCOclimbing
    @SCOclimbing2 жыл бұрын

    The fact that they evidence Alex Honnold 7 years ago as a free solo idol and he is been crushing the new generation the past 2 years because of the oscar pretty much looks like a prediction ahaha

  • @hahne9

    @hahne9

    Жыл бұрын

    He was already well known years before in the climbing world. Freerider was not his first free solo achievement 🤦‍♂.

  • @SCOclimbing

    @SCOclimbing

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hahne9 he was well known inside the climbing world, for people who didnt even knew the sport Alex was just like any other climber, no one knew them. Nowadays Alex Honnold and Magnus Midtbo managed to be 2 climbers that got "commercial" status and got known as athletes even tho Alex himself is just a free solo passionist and good climber overall. There are so much more around the climbing world, that is what I meant with my original post.

  • @Spacegoat92
    @Spacegoat923 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't stop laughing at the continual crapping everywhere.. But i have to admit i have done the free solo one a few times...

  • @Bigbadwolfanderson

    @Bigbadwolfanderson

    Жыл бұрын

    Laughing ? Shit isn’t funny honestly I’m tired of it

  • @Spacegoat92

    @Spacegoat92

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Bigbadwolfanderson Yeah i know, it's disgusting. That's why i'm laughing at it because they're making fun of the idiots that do it.

  • @Paul83614

    @Paul83614

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Bigbadwolfanderson I’d love to take a shit in your car. Just saying Mr big bad wolf.

  • @CameronS437
    @CameronS4379 жыл бұрын

    "I climb 5.10 in the gym okay?" HAHAHA

  • @xDFreshman

    @xDFreshman

    9 жыл бұрын

    billy bob a 5.11 inside is basically a 5.11 outside . the difference is that outdoors you can always grab something that isnt a hold and then the whole route can be way harder than its supposed to be. inside you dont have to worry about that.

  • @mattyp9863

    @mattyp9863

    8 жыл бұрын

    +billy bob It sure feels like that.

  • @dubourg4

    @dubourg4

    8 жыл бұрын

    +billy bob Depends on what you are used to. I feel the same way, but I have a buddy who feel the opposite. He's used to being allowed to grab anythig he see, being able to choose what feel the most natural for him. Indoor climbing, with the colors you must not use and the wall perfectly flat outside of the one hold you have to take, makes it harder for him.

  • @badsn

    @badsn

    8 жыл бұрын

    +billy bob Another factor: gym owners want to make some buck. statistically in larger cities that have more than one gym the attendance is higher at the gym that gives more rewarding grades. people like to cheat themselves and brag with high grades.

  • @gregguerra870

    @gregguerra870

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maximilian Peer so you telling me that a 5.11 indoor climb is the same as a 5.11 outdoor climb, you obviously haven’t climbed in JTree have you. I’ve climbed 5.10s indoors and they in no way come close to an outdoor JTree 5.10!

  • @mkonca
    @mkonca10 жыл бұрын

    It would be nice if the experienced climber in the video was using the correct hand positioning for belaying.

  • @mattyp9863

    @mattyp9863

    8 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @profd65

    @profd65

    5 жыл бұрын

    A climbing gym dork criticizing somebody's belaying: I've never seen that at a climbing video before.

  • @AntonRacing

    @AntonRacing

    5 жыл бұрын

    yes... i saw this and was little bit irritated too

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    Also, I believe the atc is backwards.

  • @seasonti8312

    @seasonti8312

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's satire relax

  • @Lambda25
    @Lambda258 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who sees really bad belaying at around 0:46 ?

  • @simonfeller2211

    @simonfeller2211

    7 жыл бұрын

    I noticed imediately. And then i went to comments section looking exactly for this your comment. No man, you are not the oly one!

  • @dephcon9

    @dephcon9

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's called lead belaying ;-)

  • @DjTelle

    @DjTelle

    7 жыл бұрын

    And this video is cringey af

  • @kevindudra5450

    @kevindudra5450

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ian Jones well that’s not how lead belaying usually looks I think people are confused because he’s doing a different type of belay method that’s either from Canada or France (I forget) but it’s industry accepted he’s fine

  • @profd65

    @profd65

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh, dude, shut the fuck up. I'm tired of gym climbers leaving comments about belaying. We know you're a super badass: you've went to a climbing gym three times.

  • @samuellees6447
    @samuellees64473 жыл бұрын

    Would not want to get belayed by that guy in the red lmao.

  • @jeanbon6079

    @jeanbon6079

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I just noticed lol

  • @Jona69
    @Jona692 жыл бұрын

    Is the bad belaying supposed to be a joke too? Don't hold the blocking side of the rope underhand!

  • @FLIP1E
    @FLIP1E6 жыл бұрын

    I saw a guys dog eat a climbers sock in one go at a crag once. dong be that dog at the crag

  • @Super0062
    @Super006210 жыл бұрын

    Now that's some good stuff! Pass it on!

  • @maxmoovin
    @maxmoovin2 жыл бұрын

    So funny. I've never experienced anyone out on routes like this guy.

  • @iris0liver
    @iris0liver6 жыл бұрын

    Is that Kevin from Collegehumor??

  • @klausschmidt6089
    @klausschmidt60897 жыл бұрын

    Also, don´t be that belaying dude at 0:45

  • @profd65

    @profd65

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info, climbing gym hero.

  • @gregguerra870

    @gregguerra870

    5 жыл бұрын

    profd65 real geniuses aren’t they 😂🤣

  • @WillStrong7

    @WillStrong7

    Жыл бұрын

    @profd65 I don't know why you have such an axe to grind, but his ATC is upside down, hence he is basically just belaying off a carabiner. Stay safe out there.

  • @jeanbon6079

    @jeanbon6079

    Жыл бұрын

    @@profd65 Come on this way of belaying is really bad

  • @northaunt
    @northaunt10 жыл бұрын

    at least that guy wears a helmet while the others don't. so son't be the other guys either.

  • @dabossman5650

    @dabossman5650

    5 жыл бұрын

    mountsun U don’t need one

  • @federicoezequielmackin
    @federicoezequielmackin2 жыл бұрын

    OMG... the belay device at 0:48 is threaded incorrectly.... climber goes on top! Don't be that guy at the crag!

  • @bonefishboards
    @bonefishboards5 жыл бұрын

    Some of the reasons why I avoid the popular parts of the Gunks during the in-season(s). And there should have been a segment with the guy yelling up beta. Another Gunks annoyance.

  • @MaxMustermann-op9zp
    @MaxMustermann-op9zp7 жыл бұрын

    please don t be one of the belaying guys in the video, they are using the tube wrong... it s not a hms, they should turn there breaking hand ( right hand) around and keep it underneath the belay device in order to hold a suprising fall

  • @DJ-kg6zq

    @DJ-kg6zq

    3 жыл бұрын

    That carabiner is designed for this…

  • @robmckennie4203
    @robmckennie4203 Жыл бұрын

    at least kevin wears his helmet

  • @ukaszrutkowski7335
    @ukaszrutkowski73352 жыл бұрын

    Isn't this guy's belay device upside down at 0:43?

  • @Jtayj
    @Jtayj6 жыл бұрын

    What kind of pants are those at 0:35? I cant find them anywhere

  • @gregpphoto
    @gregpphoto9 жыл бұрын

    Well, at least he was wearing a helmet.

  • @andrewahlquist4954
    @andrewahlquist49542 жыл бұрын

    Why is every belay device attached upside down haha

  • @ragnarnvfoster6023
    @ragnarnvfoster6023 Жыл бұрын

    Pretty on point seems I think every last belayer placed their hand 180 degrees upside down as though to catch their climber with their fingertips as opposed to, IDK, your hand? No wonder they need kevlar reinforced gloves. What exactly is the adverseness to using your hand right side down where you are objectively orders of magnitude stronger? That would be like carrying your groceries into your home with your pinkies extended horizontally and the bags draped over the edge.

  • @robmckennie4203

    @robmckennie4203

    Жыл бұрын

    do you think your fingers aren't involved in grabbing the rope just because you can't see them when they're facing away from you?

  • @foihdzas
    @foihdzas9 жыл бұрын

    lol your guide was backwards @ 0:55

  • @timjohnrea

    @timjohnrea

    9 жыл бұрын

    Crossloaded biner too

  • @ZeroContentSF

    @ZeroContentSF

    9 жыл бұрын

    Using a guide that way is fine, it's basically like using a regular ATC that doesn't have the ribbed channel. Lower friction may be desirable. Black Diamond calls that Regular Friction Mode, the other way is High Friction Mode.

  • @foihdzas

    @foihdzas

    9 жыл бұрын

    ZeroContentSF Yeah .. I was just bein' 'that guy' on the internets ;)

  • @nathanielmisouri

    @nathanielmisouri

    9 жыл бұрын

    RidingInKelowna lmao

  • @janskornowicz2523

    @janskornowicz2523

    9 жыл бұрын

    ZeroContentSF yes the ATC can be backwards but the holding line should always come down and the line go to the climber on top of device. Then you get 3 bands not only 2.

  • @projekt1809
    @projekt18097 жыл бұрын

    Haha, funny video and great message in the end 🤘 😎

  • @lewstone5430
    @lewstone543011 ай бұрын

    Hey! That’s me!

  • @Printerthing
    @Printerthing7 жыл бұрын

    Kevin from CH climbs?

  • @dwayneboucaud1763

    @dwayneboucaud1763

    7 жыл бұрын

    SoyRumbler I guess so

  • @KevinCorrigan

    @KevinCorrigan

    7 жыл бұрын

    I've been working at Climbing Magazine for three years now.

  • @rudychavira5558
    @rudychavira55586 жыл бұрын

    Check your device boys .

  • @schlaznger8049
    @schlaznger80498 жыл бұрын

    Does this guy have IBS?

  • @ChadDidNothingWrong
    @ChadDidNothingWrong8 ай бұрын

    banana peels arent litter unless youre in the city

  • @Bigbadwolfanderson
    @Bigbadwolfanderson Жыл бұрын

    This video perpetuates the problem , don’t be this video.

  • @UncleFjester
    @UncleFjester2 жыл бұрын

    0:42 I taught Gina that thing you like

  • @robmckennie4203
    @robmckennie4203 Жыл бұрын

    you ever have the moment where you're like 95% sure you know someone, but there's no way you know them because what would _they_ be doing _here_

  • @owenhergel7933
    @owenhergel79338 жыл бұрын

    "Its natural" "Were in nature"

  • @rockclimbing3844
    @rockclimbing38442 жыл бұрын

    Walked away from a climbing partner that did all this

  • @KillroyX99
    @KillroyX993 жыл бұрын

    It is biodegradable, but just do it far away from the crag and dig a whole, and do it away from sources of water like wilderness backpacking.

  • @rickittyrickith7028

    @rickittyrickith7028

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you live in the dessert the shit may take years to decay and you may be adding harmful bacteria to the ecosystem, so maybe shit before you go out or bring a wag bag

  • @feelinghealingfrequences7179
    @feelinghealingfrequences71792 жыл бұрын

    kinda looks like boulder canyon? dont go there!

  • @eliswann1922
    @eliswann19222 жыл бұрын

    Love it lol ima snow boarder and camper lol there’s always this guy…. Best thing to do is teach them tell them when they do wrong and if they a buttheads leave ‘em be, they will eventually understand they don’t belong outdoors/recreationally especially if everyone else does the same… but there will still be that last person who does it just because getting on peoples nerves is how they still amuse themselves after being a bully as long as society will allow

  • @conorraney1801
    @conorraney180110 жыл бұрын

    Haha awesome video! Although, I'm not certain why a banana peel on the ground is a problem, or were they trying to portray not leaving right on the trail? To me I see it as an opportunity to give the soil some nutrients. Of course it will attract bugs but I think us stinky climbers attract more anyhow. What am I missing with the banana peel thing? Great job guys!

  • @ryantvwalker

    @ryantvwalker

    10 жыл бұрын

    Solid question Connor. The video is emphasizing leave no trace ethics. There are a few LNT issues with leaving stuff like banana and orange peels on the ground. Like you mentioned they would give nutrients to the soil but those nutrients are from something outside of the normal ecosystem and the point is to leave as little human-caused impact on nature as possible so it is discouraged. They also take really long to decompose which makes them an eyesore for awhile.

  • @1983Cortex

    @1983Cortex

    10 жыл бұрын

    I would say it's more a general "please don't just throw stuff in nature". Don't focus so much on the banana as much as the act of filling the crags (and other outdoor areas) with garbage.

  • @conorraney1801

    @conorraney1801

    10 жыл бұрын

    Awesome replies, thank you! I guess that all makes sense :) Heck, since we're speaking of trash and you guys know the effects...take my challenge of picking up trash and helping you local crag. I started this out in Wyoming a couple weeks ago and it's turned over some nice results at all of our climbing areas. Below is the link to the rules! Thanks again guys. facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152032255955334&l=7056096782248182541

  • @tylerphillips2121

    @tylerphillips2121

    10 жыл бұрын

    Conor Raney TROLLED

  • @conorraney1801

    @conorraney1801

    10 жыл бұрын

    Tyler, I don't spend enough time on the internet to know what TROLLED means. I either am spending my time outside or helping others. I'm simply trying to get people involved in picking up trash, so if this TROLLED thing is a negative comment towards me, I'd suggest you try to get off the technology and see what the sun looks like. Also, if you can't respect someone's efforts for a positive change, then my thoughts on humans being a failure is true. And please don't act tough over the internet, it's very cowardly and something that city folk do...don't be that guy.

  • @johns3106
    @johns31064 жыл бұрын

    1:30. I recently saw chalk graffiti in a descent "cave" where it will never get washed off. I can't fathom why someone who is climbing in a beautiful, natural setting would feel the narcissistic need to leave behind their own "hieroglyphics"!

  • @RideBikes_Walkplaces

    @RideBikes_Walkplaces

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cave men did it.

  • @bkl8804

    @bkl8804

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yawn

  • @Ps3luvr260

    @Ps3luvr260

    2 жыл бұрын

    Humans have been painting on rock since before they knew what it meant to be human, I wouldn’t expect anything to change lol

  • @RideBikes_Walkplaces

    @RideBikes_Walkplaces

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ps3luvr260 my thoughts as well. I can imagine in 10,000 years the next civilisation trying to fathom what these pictures mean and what type of cliff dwelling people drew them 😂

  • @johns3106

    @johns3106

    2 жыл бұрын

    What’s wrong with all of you?…we’re not talking about an ancient culture’s art here, we’re talking about some a-hole’s self-gratifying graffiti!!

  • @gracecurtis6100
    @gracecurtis61007 жыл бұрын

    Maybe don't be that guy on the crag who's too cool to wear a helmet

  • @bman6065

    @bman6065

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe don't worry about other people's personal safety decisions. Not like anyone needs to be enlightened that getting wacked in the head is bad.

  • @brurkriboww8545
    @brurkriboww85456 жыл бұрын

    lmao😂😂😅

  • @lijihua1021
    @lijihua10212 жыл бұрын

    Hey at least he has helmet on

  • @klemenpeve
    @klemenpeve3 жыл бұрын

    I...t

  • @Rafungilo
    @Rafungilo Жыл бұрын

    So I’m new to rock climbing. Is the guy shitting right in front of you really a problem????

  • @jugariforum791
    @jugariforum7919 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha .. I thought this was another CollegeHumor sketch

  • @ImSpartacus811
    @ImSpartacus8112 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure my guy took a dump like 4 times in the same video just to thoroughly show off that hip mobility. That's a fiercesome squat and he knows it.

  • @burek198004
    @burek1980049 жыл бұрын

    WTF!!!!!! hehehe

  • @patricioriquelme2280
    @patricioriquelme22802 жыл бұрын

    In this days,unfortunately is quite common to see this people..... is the new generation !!! They think that are so COOL """.

  • @the.erdemss
    @the.erdemss8 ай бұрын

    everything is correct but the banana trash is good for nature

  • @DansEarway
    @DansEarway2 жыл бұрын

    “That guy at the crag” reminds me of climbing magazine.. Obnoxious

  • @chrisstich5474
    @chrisstich54744 жыл бұрын

    I didn't see anything wrong with the banana peel.

  • @bman6065

    @bman6065

    3 жыл бұрын

    Depending on the environment. Here in the south a banana peel would mulch within a couple weeks.

  • @goranurlic712
    @goranurlic7122 жыл бұрын

    You should throw banana and other organic waste in nature. Not in the path or road but sure under some tree or near a bush or something

  • @stealthysheep

    @stealthysheep

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can see where you're coming from, but as a habit it's just better to leave no trace except footprints. So not even organic waste. Most of the time it's not native to the area

  • @jakedath4331

    @jakedath4331

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that might be ok in very remote places with wet soil, and lost of natural decomposition. Not in a place that people use. Certainly not at a climbing crag. That banana peel may sit there for months before it decomposes. In dry climates it can be years. Even if it's only one a-hole a week that tosses their fruit skins, the place would be covered very quickly. Pack your waste out; even "natural" waste.

  • @goranurlic712

    @goranurlic712

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jakedath4331 idiot are you aware of the shit you said? Did i mentioned stuffing banana peels in fucking crag lines or something? For sure. No. Nature will decompose everything on this planet made by human hand,but here you are saying that will do damage? And guy above said its not native food...wtf? You arent planting 1000 banana palm trees,you are throwing away nutrients for every plant there is.

  • @maya-amf3325
    @maya-amf33253 ай бұрын

    I guess this clip is hitting the 2nd degree pretty hard with the fact that although the main guy is being an idiot, the other guys that appear in there are also, despite their annoyance, just as inept (only a few seconds here and there is enough to see absolutely horrid belaying). This is what discovering the outdoor climbing community has been like for me. A high concentration of climbing geeks who act all snobbish and try to bully newcomers with their "superior knowledge" all while being generally incompetent themselves. At some point if you stick to it long enough and learn the ropes properly from people who actually do know what they're talking about, you figure out that most of the posturing was completely baseless and most of the people you saw being all pedantic were, in fact, completely full of shit.

  • @kyles312
    @kyles3123 жыл бұрын

    Yea I don’t think anybody puts peanut butter on the rocks. This isn’t relatable and very stupid

  • @DJ-kg6zq

    @DJ-kg6zq

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was really funny! 🤣

  • @robertwood4783
    @robertwood47837 жыл бұрын

    childish

  • @martinklawitter1070
    @martinklawitter10707 жыл бұрын

    All the normal people at the crag are not wearing helmets while the idiot in the movie is. Why create that message? I understand that it is probably not intentional, but this video is reproducing a stereotype that it is uncool to wear a helmet at the crag...

  • @bman6065

    @bman6065

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wear a helmet when I feel it's necessary. I don't when I don't feel it's necessary. Has nothing to do with "looking cool". It's because I like the feeling of a breeze. If peer pressure is that much of an issue than the issue is the subject hasn't grown up yet. Only one way to correct that issue.

  • @tuanoful
    @tuanoful3 жыл бұрын

    The banana thing isn't that bad, just throw it further away, in a few days it's totally gone.

  • @HoracioLanzas

    @HoracioLanzas

    3 жыл бұрын

    If everyone does it, it'll fill with trash and it also hurts the wildlife that shouldn't be eating what ever is there.

  • @geologick

    @geologick

    2 жыл бұрын

    it's gone because somebody else picked up your trash for you. bananas take months to fully decompose and animals aren't interested in eating bitter banana skins.

  • @skyrabbit74

    @skyrabbit74

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geologick What? No they don't. Lol months.

  • @jeanbon6079

    @jeanbon6079

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. Of course plastic rubbish is a totally different story

  • @StinkyMink
    @StinkyMink7 жыл бұрын

    Banana peel is biodegradable and edible no harm there

  • @johntuttle9544

    @johntuttle9544

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why should others have to look at your trash next to the trail?

  • @cvonruex

    @cvonruex

    4 жыл бұрын

    Introducing non native organic substances can lead to harmful outcomes. If you're in a place where bananas grow, you can toss them. If not, don't.

  • @isaacdyck1223
    @isaacdyck12238 жыл бұрын

    lol you guys are complaining about the banana peel?? it's compost get over it.....it's the same as a dead tree falling

  • @moxy82

    @moxy82

    8 жыл бұрын

    +isaac dyck When was the last time you saw a banana tree in the woods?

  • @DeathByCactus

    @DeathByCactus

    8 жыл бұрын

    +moxy82 Ants ate them... ALL OF THEM!

  • @fmaz1952

    @fmaz1952

    8 жыл бұрын

    +moxy82 In Argentina, why ?

  • @Puddles91843

    @Puddles91843

    7 жыл бұрын

    spot on

  • @MisamHunnan

    @MisamHunnan

    7 жыл бұрын

    ants and shit will happily take it :D

  • @bman6065
    @bman60653 жыл бұрын

    I blame gym culture and it's horde of whippersnappers. Especially if the kids get strong before they go outside. Funny how the culture has devolved into doing whatever you want as long as you're strong enough to physically climb the route. Yes, that includes retro bolting without first ascent permission. The increase of popularity in our sport has taken away more than it's given in my opinion.

  • @DJ-kg6zq

    @DJ-kg6zq

    3 жыл бұрын

    The rocks are public land, we all own them. I don’t care about somebody’s territory they made up in their head. How are you supposed to figure out who did the first accent anyways? You’re Trippin dude

  • @DJ-kg6zq

    @DJ-kg6zq

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any sports that go main stream, go downhill in a hurry.

  • @cvgneeb2040

    @cvgneeb2040

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most elitist comment I’ve ever read

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