Wow, same board and GPU as the build I'm working on now, only diff is 12400F on mine. Subbing an ID IS-47-XT for the stock cooler, running a Wraith Prism on my R5 3600 in current box and it stays pretty cool so I think the ID should be fine.

Thanks for the video, been watching your channel for couple of days and i love the content that you provide. +1

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

I found if you elongate the mounting hole slots inward by grinding you can use one with a 775 socket cpu. The mounting legs are hard steel so grinding with a dremel is slow going. You have to remove the push in connectors and use some screws that go into the stock 775 backplate. Quieter and cools a bit better that stock.

Thanks for the vid. Turns out my new build is in a Jonsbo C6 Mesh. Had a surplus Corsair H60 2018 but this case doesn't support AIO's. I am not gaming. It will strictly be a HTPC, with an i5 1440 w/UHD Graphics. Cooler clearance recommended for Jonsbo is

What is the best or max for i5 12400f power limit?

I'd be interested to know how well the Arctic i13x fares cooling the non-K Socket 1700 i5 chips. I already know it does well with the 10400 and 11400 processors, keeping them under 80C at full load.

@Jeymez

Жыл бұрын

it'd be the same, there all the same temperatures. i5 10400, 11400, and 12400 are 65 watt each.

i have an intel 13400f, with stock cooler that is, and indeed the temps are just about right, it doenst get hot , its stable, always stable

my prebuilt pc came with one of these installed alongside a i5 12400f and my my, it is one noisy thing under load. looking to upgrade to a dark rock slim to hopefully increase cooling and noise issues.

@samtv6795

Жыл бұрын

Did you manage to get the new cooler? If so how is it in terms of cooling and sound. And what gpu are you using

sir.does every motherboard have setting set PL1 AND PL2 ? i plan buy asus prime H410 for i3 10100

did you try using a better thermal paste with the stock cooler to see if that would help with the cpu load temps?

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

No, there's really no point. At that point just get a cheap tower cooler that comes with better thermal paste. Thermal paste rarely has more than 1-2C impact, especially on a cooler that's already borderline.

dude what happens if you replace the stock thermal compuond with something betterm like TG cryounaut, AS5 or cooler master mastergel maker nano.?

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Very little. 1-2C difference at most. But Standby... I've found a big solution to Alderlake temperatures that costs dollars and lowers temps 5-10C. I'll do a video on it shortly.

Thank you

Hello. Does running RM1 cooler at max RPM decreases fan's logevity? And secondly running cpu around 82 or 83 degree temps are ok and under safe boundaries?

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

It might decrease your ears longevity! Yes, max rpm will wear the fan out faster but it should still last years. 82-83C is absolutely fine. I'd even let the CPU run hotter to reduce fan speed and noise.

i5-12400f when gaming lost ark on high, the cpu temp is 62-71c should change the cooler or not? or its just a normal temp when gaming on high?

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fine, nothing to worry about.

@damara2268

2 жыл бұрын

Intel specifications say that of you are not touching 100°C it is fine. So 71°C is completely okay.

Hi, When I installed the stock cooler on MSI PRO B660M-A I had to press the mounting pin really hard for it to be seated well. Is that normal? How much pressure should I be applying while installing the stock cooler. Thank you.

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they can take a bit of force. So long as it's locked into the motherboard on all four corners it's fine.

@jaseem7

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker thank you very much. I made all my purchase choices based on you channel. The way you explain things are so awesome.

@Delpzie

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaseem7 This happend to me too same motherboard and same cooler, it needed insane amount of force i had to push the motherboard from other side so it doesnt bend, thats not normal i think msi`s fault.

@jaseem7

2 жыл бұрын

@@Delpzie Oh, okay. I replaced it with an AIO because Stock was thermal throttling at higher loads.

@alexcoutinho2354

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaseem7 Yo how's your i5 12400f working with stock cooler ? I brought i5 - 12400f and iam confused whether to buy a better Air cooler or just run on stock cooler , i do play some Fps games and use blender software.

ask about the height / dimension

Im using a 12400F with stock bio settings with an ak400 and in gaming it doesnt go more than 55C

I understand that stress tests can make your cpu go really hot because it pushes its limits, but I have some strange things going on; Intel 12400f; usage is 15-20%, WATS are below 40 and still temps are around 80c (gta 5 online) I don't think undervoltage would help me even if I could do it. should i spend 50$ on new cooler on 150$ cpu or is there any other solution? i disabled asus perfomance boost but nothing realy changed. temps while watching youtube are around 45-50c.

@michaellabuschagne7439

4 ай бұрын

Newer gen cpus run much hotter than the old ones, 80C is good under load

@zdrawex

4 ай бұрын

​@@michaellabuschagne7439nvm i got myself i35 frezer and now i have 30c idle and 60c in games

I ended up getting a 4TB Kingston SSD for a whopping $2, so that's enough of a reason to build a PC since my current DDR3 desktop doesn't support it. I've been planning a 12600 or 12600k build, and so I was weighing whether the stock cooler would cut it, or if I was better off spending a tad more on the better cpu and a quality cpu cooler, and I think I'm going to opt for the latter. You do thorough work and I enjoy the channel, keep it up.

@baadshahmiya

Жыл бұрын

4TB NVME SSD?

@Mobin92

Жыл бұрын

btw pci adapters exist for like 10 usd

Is it normal idle core temp 52c i5 12400 using this fan ?

@raziel5008

3 ай бұрын

Mine 32c to 35c idle, gaming 64 to 69

My 12400f temp is 49-52 degree at no use on stock cooler what should I do😭😭😭😭😭

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing! That's fine. It will get a little warm, and it won't run it's fan fast until it gets warm to keep noise down. Idle temperatures are pretty meaningless. It's load temperatures that matter.

Hey i get same motherboard as in video but have problems whith ram overclock on normal xmp.

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

What RAM kit are you using?

@setpopa5357

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker Kingston FURY 16GB KIT DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Beast Black

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

@@setpopa5357 2 Sticks? Got it in slots 2 and 4 counting away from the CPU?

@setpopa5357

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker Im not at home but i think i get tham in slot 1# and 3#

Interesting that i5-12400f gets almost the same R23 long duration numbers (11300 vs 11500) as i5-12600K with the stock cooler. I'm using Phanteks P400.

@ikram2512

2 жыл бұрын

Phanteks is the case right?

@restive81

2 жыл бұрын

@@ikram2512 Yes, the case P400 ARGB - version, without any mods or so. Just wondering that the difference between i5-12400f and i5-12600K is so minimal.

@ikram2512

2 жыл бұрын

@@restive81 do it got a good airflow?

@restive81

2 жыл бұрын

@@ikram2512 Yes, the case (P400) has very good airflow. Ambient temperature at my house about 22 celcius.

@ikram2512

2 жыл бұрын

@@restive81 oh that's great I'm planning to goes around the internet looking for great PC case but is it atx or micro-atx case?

Intel makes a capable stock cooler for i5 cpu's: CHALLENGE IMPOSSIBLE

@miweneia

2 жыл бұрын

Not the cooler's fault he used unlocked power limits, thus drawing 100+ watts. The cooler is meant to be used at 65w draw, its perfectly fine there. And this is specifically for work loads. For gaming, its even more viable, due to the temps being even lower. Think about how many CPUs they ship - if every single one of them were to include a beefy cooler like one of noctua or bequiet's tower coolers it would be a huge cost on their end, on the shipping end and even on the user's end, as they'd be forced to pay more for a cooler they might end up changing anyways. One thing they could've done is simply not include a cooler with the 12600K and above, just like with the i7 and i9 SKUs, because they all have a PL1 of over 100w.

@loucipher7782

2 жыл бұрын

@@miweneia nobody is asking for overpriced noctua shit, they could have just include one with more heat pipes for maybe extra $5 more there is a cooler really famous lately its called Snowman or something its only $20 for 6 heatpipes lmfao and 4 heat pipes cost only about 15$ and it can bring the temp down by 20c full load

@theblackhat9769

2 жыл бұрын

@@loucipher7782 but we shouldnt care about improving the stock coolers anyways. The performance is perfectly adequate as a placeholder and most ppl would upgrade to a better cooler anyways. The money would b better spent on the actual cpu rather than the cooler assuming it has the bare minimum requirements for cooling.

@loucipher7782

2 жыл бұрын

@@theblackhat9769 its only adequate if your room is a lab or operating table lmfao meaning freakin cold ambient

@Jeymez

Жыл бұрын

@@miweneia there a business, so it makes sense why they include a stock cooler, but AMD does the same thing on some of there CPU's to. but your not part of the business, your just a person. ya there just demonstrating the stock cooler on i5 12600k CPU, but of course it wouldn't be enough. it still wouldn't do a better job at cooling the i5 12400 than an aftermarket Air Cooler, and it doesn't have to be the biggest, both Noctua and Artic Freezer make small coolers just like that, and they outperform it, while also being quiet. i mean the stock cooler is meant for a non K 65 watt CPU, but bare in mind the TDP is an average estimate of what the CPU produces at idle when your not doing much on the computer. so if your just doing some casual browsing, then your not gonna generate much power. it's only when you start doing heavier work loads like gaming or streaming, video editing etc, then the TDP will increase, but how much is dependent on the numbers of Cores you have, and the type of workloads you need out of the CPU.

Just built a new pc with the i3 12100f and at idle it runs at 50c, gaming with

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

No, The only concerns with CPU temperatures are if it thermally throttles and costs you performance. CPUs are quite happy operating at 90-90C, and you shouldn't worry about partial or idle temperatures. In reality, low temperatures are a sign of how hard you run your fans, or good case airflow. You should check the cooler is correctly fitted, and the case has adequate airflow. Otherwise, it's fine.

@secrethydromicrogrow420

Жыл бұрын

You might have installed your cpu cooler wrong i have a 12100 core i3 and on idle my cpu is 31.5C when im gaming and watching a movie my cpu gets max 42C im not sure why your temperatures are so high

@fahdmirza8665

Жыл бұрын

@@secrethydromicrogrow420 thats insane. Either u have turned off the turbo boost, or you must be running these tests without a CPU case, or u might have enabled 100% RPM fan speed at all temperature ranges

@allanaguilar6861

Жыл бұрын

I have the same problem, did you solve it?

@secrethydromicrogrow420

Жыл бұрын

@@fahdmirza8665 thank you for replying it is insane! But im not lying i think i won the silicone lottery

Game a bunch with the Laminar, no issues with temps at all so far.

@TubeBrowser2

2 жыл бұрын

Did you use the stock thermal compound or something else? I wonder about the coverage stock....but, of course, Intel ships it like that so it must work. ???

@GFS695

2 жыл бұрын

@@TubeBrowser2 stock

I recently upgraded my pc to 12400 non F version+stock cooler paired with Asus H610 prime mobo 8x2 16gb Ram @3200hz and RTX 2060. My processor is hitting 70-75-80c+ in cyberpunk 2022 Game with RTX on and in cinebench R23 multicore test it is hitting 100c on most of the cores in core temp and in Asus armoury crate it was showing cpu @ 88c and cpu package @100c

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

That's to be expected with the stock cooler! A simple 4 heat pipe tower cooler will bring noise and temperatures down.

@ManDark_o7

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker I stay in India which will be a decent cooler to buy?

@davidduncan1444

2 жыл бұрын

Vetroo v5 is what I use

@ManDark_o7

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidduncan1444 i have ordered a deepcool ak400. It comes with all mounting parts for the new 1700 socket

@polardabear

Жыл бұрын

@@ManDark_o7 + Late question but how are your temperatures with that AK400? Im thinking on getting the AG400.

Its a welcome upgrade to older models, good enough. You want more, buy outside.

My 12400 stucks at 100°c at stock settings

@arvindsahu5327

2 жыл бұрын

Is this processor is good

@hanionline563

Жыл бұрын

what do u mean by sruck at 100 that's the max temp your pc should get shut down when cpu temp reach 100

My i5 12700 went upp to 100degrees celsius just by downloading a game. Bought a Noctua cooler and im idling at 30degress and playing bf2042 and running other stuff at the same time makes it go up to 65 at most, dont understand why Intel sends a cooler that doesnt do its job

@nubblillen6302

2 жыл бұрын

@Ruby Noctua NH-d15s. One of the best air coolers on the msrket and pretty cheap

@damara2268

2 жыл бұрын

The cooler is designed to run the CPU according to Intel specifications. According to Intel specifications i7 12700 should boost to 125W for a few seconds and then cap at 65W. With 65W the stock cooler keeps temperature around 80°C which is totally within the CPU specifications (Intel spec says max temp is 100°C)

What's the stock temperature of 12600(non k) with stock cooler; It's my go to cpu as it's better from 12400. I will ofc buy another aftermarket cooler.

@killswitch6673

2 жыл бұрын

it will go up to 80c 95c to hot I just got mine I order the vetro fits perfect for non k models XPS 8950

@mikep6040

2 жыл бұрын

@@killswitch6673 80 to 95 c in what task? Lol. That's a lot. Do you have a good cpu cooler?

@killswitch6673

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikep6040 just gaming

@killswitch6673

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikep6040 yea I changed my cooler

@killswitch6673

2 жыл бұрын

If u get the XPS 8950 non k u gonna need to change CPU cooler like I did.

The cooler that came with my 12600 had a broken fan blade and the box was in perfect condition with out a scratch on it.

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Never good....

@prezidenttrump5171

Жыл бұрын

I was building a PC for a major gaming company, and when I powered on the PC to run tests a capacitor on the motherboard blew up in a puff of black smoke. Everyone around me working was like "What the F___!". So fear not MineDUST, the unexpected and totally bizzare is always right about the corner when it comes to anything releated to PC's rofl.

@minedustry

Жыл бұрын

@@prezidenttrump5171 my new msi mb won't update the bios.

Maybe i won the silicone lottery? I have a core i3 12100 with a stock cooler on idle my temps are around 31.5C and when im gaming and watching a movie my temps are 42C max im not sure why everyone has such high temperatures

@fahadm3124

Жыл бұрын

better install HW64 software and monitor temps at idle and running cinebench R20. Also notice CPU fan RPMs and CPU power consumption

Atleast its not a rattly mess but it isnt up to the task of cooling my new i7. Waiting for lga1700 brackets still.

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have stock power limits applied? It should do OK at 65W, but it's certainly not great. Just better than the old one. A review of a bunch of other coolers is upcoming!

@Daisudori

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker no power limits. Gaming is ok still (80-90c)., Benchmarking, forget it. instant 100c on 65w the cooler is adequate and the noise is more pleasant then my old 2600 stock cooler. So they did do something right.

@AndrewTSq

2 жыл бұрын

I was gonna use my watercooler first, but thought I could try my evo212 black edition rgb first. so i got the brackets, and my 12600K is at high 60's in temp when you try demanding workloads. i have asus performance enabled. I Think the Evo212 is probably at the limit for the 12600k.

@SimplyLewin

2 жыл бұрын

I can't think of a better use case for these stock coolers than "waiting for LGA 1700 brackets"

@AndrewTSq

2 жыл бұрын

@@SimplyLewin agree :D They should not include a fan at all. Just adds price to the unit, and also shipping in some cases.

Wish there was more sub £140 B660 Motherboards like AMD B550.

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

100%. We've got 3 more coming at that price and will be testing them this week, so keep an eye out for the results.

@tazboy1934

2 жыл бұрын

The reason why intel board are bit more expensive is because of the socket...it lga ...whereas the amd socket is bga but then again their cpu is little more expensive due to it having the pins on the cpu

mine hits 80 celcius max when gaming i3 13100 no thermal throttling...

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

That's because it's a 50W CPU. The cooler is really designed around that kind of output.

If all you're using the 12400f for is just gaming, would the stock cooler be perfectly adequate for that?

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

It's fine but you will hear it, it has an annoying noise profile. In terms of performance and temperatures though it's no issue, and easy to replace later.

@marvlouslie2053

Жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker I'm just looking to save a little funds, but I might splurge an extra $40 bucks for a DeepCool heatsink, but I was just curious overall. I've been using a stock AMD cooler for my 3200g and I haven't really noticed any real bad issues noise wise with it, so I bet I could probably get used to the stock i5 cooler too. Thanks for the response, my guy. Not a lot of channel creators will take the time for a random question on an older vid.

@crabbynebula

Жыл бұрын

@@marvlouslie2053 yes, the noise is the only problem for my me and my i5 12400f. I am thinking of getting Deepcool ag300 which is cheap but will it perform good enough? What did you finally do?

I just built a new PC. The CPU fan becomes SUPER LOUD like a JET ENGINE 2500-3200RPM. It slows down-shoots up-slows down-shoots up. The temp. Stays 35-40'C for day-to-day tasks (While the case is open). Coming from fanless M1 MacBook Air, it is freaking annoying to me. Is it normal? Has anyone with similar setup experienced it? Rig: i5 12600 (Stock Cooler) Case: Corsair 5000x (Glass panels not installed for testing) Mobo: Gigabyte Aero Z690 G DDR4.

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

Sadly that is normal for a stock cooler. Check out our 'best coolers for an i5' video for suggestions, but a basic 4 heat pipe tower cooler with a 120mm fan will deliver much better cooling and much lower noise.

@HimanshuJagtap

Жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker Thanks for the suggestion, I will def. check em out. Also, I liked the Corsair H150i AIO, coz it would compliment my build well. I was originally gonna buy it on Newegg for $160 on deal, but I missed it.

@Mobin92

Жыл бұрын

With gigabyte you need to calibrate the fan speeds in the Gigabyte App.

doesn't work I tried had to get better one

My 14gen i5 14500 goes too 100c fast.

Is it adequate for i3 12100f when gaming?

@BuildPicker

Жыл бұрын

Yes no problems.

@allanaguilar6861

Жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker What temperatures would the i3 have with the stock cooler?

intel cpu fans are dog, just threw my one away. Guys, a cpu fan is cheap. Trust me go aftermakret.

Yes stock cooler suck😖😖

The intel stock cooler is fucken trash and thats why I switched to AMD.

@sh1zafreeq

2 жыл бұрын

Just buy an aftermarket cooler instead of getting a new cpu and motherboard 💀

as usual you like many other tech youtubers, you did an un realistic test. This cooler is intended for 12100, or 12400, NOT 12600. second, its the opposite, buyers who buy those basic systems runs at intel specs, not multicore enhancement. 3rd, no one runs the cpu in a cinebench loop, this is an unrealistic pc usage as it can get. normal people use the pc for office applications, browsing, and maximum they do is game. when gaming the load of the cpu is around 25w to max 40w. so gaming scenario is what you should have tested the cooler with, and the results would have been correct. If a buyer buys a pc for looping cinebench and this is what he enjoy in life, he knows very well to buy a tower cooling solution, he does not need you to tell him that. if you claim to be professional ,re run the test as it should have been as explained above, normal gaming 12100/12400 and that's it.

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

Asus defaults to APE no matter what cooler you fit, so if people are experiencing high temperatures and throttling this video explains why. I don't claim to be anything, I'm just helping people understand their choices when they pick parts and build a PC. I make the advantages and limitations of the stock cooler quite clear in this video. I also moderate a community over 5 million PC users, and I can assure you that plenty of people DO NOT understand the limitations of stock coolers. >the results would have been correct. The results *are* correct. A 40W load won't tell us anything, because it's not anywhere close to the maximum heat output of a basic i5 CPU.

@AY-dw4om

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker You should have make the review the following way: 1. divide it into 12100 and 12400 apart. 2. show normal use case for every day pc user, which is in fact 99.9% of the people out there. use office tools, web browsing, and gaming with a dedicated GPU - what ever model you want be it RTX3090 to stretch the cpu to its max. 3. show a use case of some one using the pc for hi load rendering of photoshop or professional video editing tool. 4. teach why using an unrealistic scenario of OOCT or cinebench or what ever burner software to burn the cpu synthetically, is not loading it in real terms but artificially for lab tests only, which are not relevant to the normal end user but to the developers in intel. that is why no one should show the audience tests like that. if it was a car, you show how it behaves on normal roads by normal drivers, not in Sahara desert at 55 degrees Celsius, stationary without air flow on a dynamometer. every normal car put to a test like that will blow its engine in a few minutes, even if it is a heavy duty caterpillar tool. once you conduct the test to represent the use cases which it will see in its life on the road, you will come to the conclusion, that for 99.999% of the times the default intel included cooler is adequate for the 12100 and the 12400. than you can elaborate that for the 12600k and above, this cooler is not intended and do a separate video showing why, and guide how to pick a tower cooler optimal for those more expensive cpu's - intended for the professional work loads scenarios. intel did not include the laminar rm1 with them for a reason. **I am an engineer, I write from professional experience and knowhow.

@BuildPicker

2 жыл бұрын

@@AY-dw4om >, that for 99.999% of the times the default intel included cooler is adequate for the 12100 and the 12400. It's not though because it restricts the ability of the i5 to perform optimally, and also it's really loud. It is supplied with the 12600, which adheres to the same power specification as the i5-12400 and doesn't draw any more power: it's just a better binned CPU and thus more efficient. I literally say that the Stock cooler is fine for gaming, or if you ensure stock power limits are adhered to. I'm not sure why you're so angry about this. You're welcome to buy these components and do the testing yourself, to your own criteria. You can even make your own videos about it, that's the joy of youtube! However, a better cooler is a big quality of life upgrade, like better tyres on a car, if you want to stick with that analogy.

@AY-dw4om

2 жыл бұрын

@@BuildPicker I am not angry , you miss understood me, my wrong here. for your info/question, I currently have 12400 for the past month with arctic 34 basic tower on it, which was found to be an over kill. the cpu in real pc use e.g gaming is at 25-40w max, and at burner software looping -> is at 75 wats. temps at max 60 degree Celsius when burning hard, no sweat. this is when power limits are removed as you test. a 12100 system is on order, will arrive to me in the next 10 days with a stock cooler, and will conduct my tests as well. costs 120 US$ before VAT for the cpu, retail box includes the original fan from intel. for that price bracket, adding a 40 US$ tower like that arctic 34 is pushing the budget from reason territory. you do not buy a cpu for 120$ and waste another third of the price (40$) just for a cooler on top of that. that is out of proportion. that is why it is smart to stick with the original included fan with cheap cpu's. I assume from information collected over the web from numerous sources and counting intel is a serious organization like Boeing, that they did serious developing before releasing those products to the market, and the original fan will be perfect for the 12100, even when intel restrictions are removed in bios as you test, as the cpu will go no more than ~58watts at burner software, so it should be enough. in games the same 25-40 watts are expected, those loads will make the original fan very acceptable by any standard of noise level and temps. I will report here in 2 weeks -> if will not forget to do so :-) **from my view, if someone is about to use the pc for long night compiling heavy sessions, like a developer of large software builds, he usually will not buy a cheap 12100 or 12400, but a more heavy duty machine (a work station) like 12600k and above models , which do not include a fan to begin with. this user will use a more robust heavy duty tower cooler. price wise it also make sense, as a developer who compile a lot, have a strong budget for development tools e.g PC hardware.

@ITalented

2 жыл бұрын

very true i came for the same things you mentioned in your comment that whether it will be fine for 12400 at 65w for day to day usage...

no heat pipes, it sucks mightly

It sucks really bad 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡