Do you like football AND cars? VOTE below!

@carwow

5 ай бұрын

VOTE: I love both!

@carwow

5 ай бұрын

VOTE: I only like cars!

@nigamlamachanemgr

5 ай бұрын

both

@CJV1B3Z

5 ай бұрын

Nope, only cars.

@niki123bxd

5 ай бұрын

Both

What stands out the most is how much more effort it takes to drive/race older cars than it does the new ones.

@blaketindle4703

5 ай бұрын

That’s why they’re more fun.

@dennissmith7214

5 ай бұрын

Not really, I drove them all the time with zero problems……..so did most people 🤷🏽‍♂️

@bro89174

5 ай бұрын

​@dennissmith7214 no u didn't 😂 attention seeker

@thunderbug8640

5 ай бұрын

@@dennissmith7214 I’m sure you did, but what he means is you had a crunchy manual gearbox, no abs, no launch control etc. Thats what he means. Modern cars basically drive themselves; these cars rely on the computer behind the wheel which makes them infinitely more fun.

@MrOriol24

5 ай бұрын

That's why they are more driver involved than the majority current cars.

Why not also give us the best time you got from each car? The Porsche's first run may have been faster than the Viper's third run. Especially as these are fragile classics and tricky to race.

@ricric3025

5 ай бұрын

and add the exit speeds while they're at it

@bellybutthole69

5 ай бұрын

because these are just for fun , not scientific.

@bongiswatsabedze3009

5 ай бұрын

I really wish they could see your comment and take into consideration.

@xyfghter99

5 ай бұрын

That's what the times are. The best of the runs. Has always been this way...

@JB-sb1qg

5 ай бұрын

If you go by historic car magazine times, the Viper wins by 0.5 sec

I wonder how the race would have went if they both started at the same time.

@Huzuproductions

3 ай бұрын

I used to have a Viper... You can not launch that Viper hard, it spins off every time. She did go on time.. she just had to launch it without the wheels spinning...

@user-ew1uz1uv3q

3 ай бұрын

Watch the video again she was late on the gas. It was not from her wheel, spitting she was late, and then, after she was late, her wheels were spitting.

@haraldkaufung4342

12 күн бұрын

... and both would be able to switch gear.

Mat's second launch was brutal, too bad he missed the gear change

@totov7673

2 күн бұрын

😅 for real but lets be honest a old gear box rear drive verry easy to miss a gear

Thanks carwow, that was a lot of fun. The Viper is a blast to drive and even though I missed some gears and took off 3.5 business day later than I should have, I hope you all can enjoy this race.

@afreiden

5 ай бұрын

You should do a rematch but in Ken Block's Fiesta

@lunabond2

5 ай бұрын

I’d be down, obviously. Now that I learned, thanks to all the comments, how I should be driving in a drag race 😏

@Mavericks-Music

5 ай бұрын

Come over to the UK and give him a rematch. You can borrow my 2003 Gemballa tuned Porsche Cayenne with 650BHP.

@Brouhaha3213

5 ай бұрын

You were great 💪🏾

@AlexGray

5 ай бұрын

Great driving Luna, you destroyed Matt 😆

If Luna were to just 'go' on 1, she'd be killing it. 😊

@ch4.hayabusa

5 ай бұрын

That would be against the Geneva convention

@Proparkourgamer

5 ай бұрын

she is a woman, what would you expect

@wooloongabba

5 ай бұрын

and if she could shift gears

@ZetaReticuli_1

5 ай бұрын

Obviously she didn't know and Matt took advantage of it. As you said, she would have won from the 1st try.

@Proparkourgamer

5 ай бұрын

@@wooloongabba lol good one

I was honestly shocked how fast that little Porsche was once it made boost! I thought the Viper would win with ease. Porsche has always punched way above its weight! The 911 Turbo S has always been one of my favorite cars but I never knew how cool the 930 is. Luna did pretty damn good with managing that Viper too, so props to her!

I work on these old school Porsches quite a bit, and yes. The turbo lag is very real. Once they're in boost, they are pretty fast, but it takes ages. Especially with an upgraded bigger turbo! Fun cars for sure

@dvmondial

4 ай бұрын

That’s why they are called widow makers. Once that turbo boosts, many loose it.

The girl is very consistent in launching the car too late.

@sesto194

5 ай бұрын

Well working in a museum youre used to stationary stuff😂

@hendrixAKA32

5 ай бұрын

I guess she was just unaware that she is supposed to go when the hands just start going down and not after the hands are completely down.

@conor7154

5 ай бұрын

“Oh yeah let’s have a woman on the channel!”

@jimbeam4736

5 ай бұрын

@@hendrixAKA32 Most ppl don´t know that and maybe that´s the reason...

@TOM-C.

5 ай бұрын

You said it, not me! 😁

Wow, I forgot how cars actually accelerate without all the assists, automatics etc. Just beautiful.

@purwantiallan5089

5 ай бұрын

Most cars actually accelerated better without those assists applied.

@MatteoFitness

5 ай бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 no. they accelerated faster but not better. far less linearly

@Griffin283

5 ай бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089they quite literally did not lmao. Cars are miles faster with modern launch control, TC and automatic transmissions

@simonz5002

5 ай бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089idk what you’re talking about. I’m usually into older cars but you just sound like an old head 😂. New cars are by far better when it comes to launching and hitting consistent drag times due to that…

That 930 is gorgeous! I shed a tear for its clutch though, while watching these folks learn to drive manual

Watson!!!!! That was the most egregious headstart you've ever done!!! And you do it like every time!!!

9:06 Oh come on Matt thats not how you break in a car without ABS 😂

@wrth

5 ай бұрын

he definitely flat spotted those poor tyres 😭

@inoita11

5 ай бұрын

He didn't break it in though ;)

@richbountyhunter6821

5 ай бұрын

both did @@wrth

@S8ER

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I don’t think I’ve ever done that to my tires braking without ABS. Threshold braking is a must and I didn’t see any hint of that here.

@tanktheram

5 ай бұрын

Hahaha both cars need new tires due to flatspots now!

more of these older cars drag races please!!!!

@Miguel_Sanchez69

5 ай бұрын

yeah but with drivers who can actually drive them properly… not like this mess of a video

@Alexr-uf3zn

5 ай бұрын

Yea cossies and Subaru 22b e30 m3 etc be good to see

This is one of the best carwow drag races I've seen period

Love these classic races

What I love about the older cars is the gap on gear changes gives the other car such a chance to catch up. Like a proper old car chase movie!

@halloweeni

5 ай бұрын

Dude that is absolutely exactly what I say everytime about manual gear boxes... People usually like when the gearchanges are quick yet taking its time to change gear absolutely is marvelous hearing the engine stop then goes and seeing the other car getting closer 😍

These older car drag races are so much more fun to watch. I remember racing my manual 87 5.0 LX against Irocs and vettes back in the day and I really miss that visceral feeling you don't get from modern cars.

@Rollin8.0

5 ай бұрын

Racing a manual against another manual is a huge rush hey

@sandorspalms

5 ай бұрын

@@Rollin8.0 Yes 100%

@ITRIEDEL

5 ай бұрын

Yep. Those days were exciting. Also, if you managed to beat a viper back in the day, you were either not street legal or one of those guys with the deep pockets and callaways or lingenfelters.

@sandorspalms

5 ай бұрын

@@ITRIEDEL Yes I was know to use nitrous in my 87 lx so I could run with the big boys lol

@BruceLee-xn3nn

4 ай бұрын

​@@ITRIEDELor GN owner

5:05 'not by muchhhhhhh' HUH! It doesn't matter weather you win by an inch or a mile, winnings, winning!

You should do more races like this don't see these 2 matched up often but were expecting a good rce

Back when skill mattered when racing cars, gotta respect the classics

@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics

5 ай бұрын

Well, it still matters if you're running laps on a track. Not so much in drag racing though, as you say.

These were the exact times I achieved with my 84 930. It had adjustable boost and ran 13.2 at the track at .8 bar. With boost at 1.3 bar and 100 octane it ran 12.8. As an aside in high school I drove a 59 beetle with 36 hp. 0 to 60 was 30 seconds. I now drive a 2022 911 turbo s. 0 to 60 10.0 with cup 2rs on it. It is absolutely violent.

@fitfogey

5 ай бұрын

0-60 at 10 flat is slow mate. Just kidding. I know what you meant.

@ahanafahmed1195

5 ай бұрын

@@fitfogeyi'm pretty sure he's talking about his quarter mile time lol 😭

Mate first of all what you doing on that side of the track also love seeing the cars jolt as you change gear

Please do a drag race with low end cars such as the Kia Rio, Nissan Versa, Hyundai Verna or Toyota Corolla!! It would be a good thing to see!! Congrats on the great content of this channel!!

I love how older cars had such unique power bands. Nowadays cars have engineered out almost all power dips. Love to see the Porsche lurch on gearshift and pull on boost. Awesome.

That first race was an amazing game of catch up.

Luna looks nice. The suspension travel on the porsche between shifts, plus the what appears now terrible gearboxes, shows how far cars have advanced.

It's awesome to see these iconic old cars being allowed out to play. Too often they end up as garage queens. I get the older they get, the more delicate and expensive to repair they get, so I very much appreciate videos like this.

Sound test: 3:01 Drag race 1: 4:26 Drag race 2: 5:29 Drag race 3: 6:13 Rolling race 1: 7:32 Rolling race 2: 8:16 Brake test: 9:05

@Natu1016

5 ай бұрын

Thank you

@Batmannn758

5 ай бұрын

Aaaye summary guy entering carwow comments noice!!

@sbuinfinity

5 ай бұрын

Siyabonga ndoda

@rkb.garage

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your service to humanity.

@saadyameen1848

5 ай бұрын

Irrelevant, nobody skips to these parts. Whole video is important each and everytime.

These both are in my top five favorite cars and these are some of the most beautiful cars ever designed imo. Super fun race.

My father would drop me off at school in a similar red turbo 911, except BBS wheels. I remember the same comment Iacocca '"buy this car now, you'll never see 400 like this again" or something to that effect. Amazing we can buy 800hp off the dealer floor now. Amazed they're staying at 50K too... Seems a lot of the cheap ones are pretty rough. I have a feeling that the nicer examples are gonna sky rocket pretty quickly.

That porsche is just a masterpiece

Even though these cars are not as fast as present day cars, this race is more exciting to me, actual human input matters, and the closeness of the first race was exciting

The break test was the funniest I’ve seen in ages.

This channel never disappoint's

You guys should consider displaying the drag race times for each attempt because the last drag race time is not always the best attempt.

@joeschmoe5009

5 ай бұрын

I dont think they show the last, i think they do show the best

@nnannaijioma6404

5 ай бұрын

@@joeschmoe5009 I hope so. But it'll be better they display it after every try, because it also helps for context... Can you get the same result 3 times from the same car? Etc.

@ITRIEDEL

5 ай бұрын

The 1st gen viper was a 13.0 flat second car based on the times of the past so 12.8 is def a “best” time.

@nnannaijioma6404

5 ай бұрын

@@ITRIEDEL fair enough

There's something undeniably magnetic about the raw, unfiltered experience of driving older cars. It's not just about speed or technology; it's the skill, the connection between driver and machine, the dance of clutch and gear that makes every successful run a triumph. These cars aren't just vehicles; they're time machines taking us back to an era where driving was an art, not just a task. Plus, seeing them in action, especially in races, is like watching history come alive. So, here's to the old-school cool - the rumble of engines, the smell of gasoline, and the thrill of manual mastery. Who else agrees that this is what car culture is all about? 🏎🔥 #OldSchoolCool #ManualMastery #CarCulture

@edwardmylnychuk5774

5 ай бұрын

yep i would never buy a new car now when i get the cash, 60s-80s-90s for me period, dont care if the new stuff is faster i just like the older cars with character and manual trans where you have to a driver not just a passenger as the cars do all the work for you

@bobbyfavaro3013

5 ай бұрын

ß

I was thinking today it had been a long time since I’d seen a Carwow clip and one turned up!

This is one of the best videos I've ever seen, also the comparison is unbelievably fun to watch. 2 of my favorite schools drag racing each other!

@BadDFWDrivers

4 ай бұрын

How is it a good video apart from the banter, viper drag race runs 2&3? I know they need to post videos, but this one seemed scuffed. Im impressed that no one called out her mis-shift in the rolling race where she hit 5th instead of 3rd both times and the Porsche miraculously got faster at the point where horsepower should be winning.

What I enjoyed most in this video -- the cars, the manual transmissions of both cars, Luna, and the brake test. Great video Matt.

the best drag race so far, much funnier with those non-electrified cars where everything is manual

back in the 80s as a boy i had a Poster of a 930 Turbo in Red with black in my room, but with the original Fuchs Wheels. Every time i see one of this car the memories are kicking in...

Both of those cars are frim my childhood. Gorgeous machines

All I’m asking for Christmas is a race where Matt can figure out how NOT to jump the start line before the arms come down

@NBSV1

4 ай бұрын

You go when the arms start coming down, not when they’re all the way down. Basically once their arms are up you go if they move at all.

@ThatCarGuy1000

4 ай бұрын

@@NBSV1 as a racer myself I must say he jumps, a lot. He rarely waits for arms to even start going down. A timing light or even a flashlight start would solve those questions but if he’s jumping as much as I say, of course that wouldn’t benefit him, thus we will never see that happen.

Love the Viper but would take that Porsche in a heartbeat

@shinigamizerokai

5 ай бұрын

Same, i preffer the porsche over the viper cause im planning to buy one and turn it into Black Bird (Wangan Midnight Version)

@chrism869

5 ай бұрын

ok fair enough but , i will take the viper, just cool looking and that v10 sound is raw and angry, sounds way better than the porsche, cant beat it

@Bertha076

5 ай бұрын

​@@chrism869Sounds really bad for a V10

@triplenppl

5 ай бұрын

@@chrism869Imo cars shouldn’t be based on their sound, they are about performance, handling and just the thrill of driving it, which Porsche definitely has

@Justin_GFM

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@triplenppl And the Viper would absolutely have all of that as well lol, in fact that 930 was called a “widowmaker” for essentially the same reasons that the Viper was so both should be on equal footing 😆

@lunabond2 deserves a lot more credit than the commenters are giving her. No launch control, no antilock brakes, no traction control. The first generation of Viper is an incredibly unforgiving car-it’s one of the few cars I’ve driven that feels like it’s actively trying to kill you. Great driving!

Love watching the older car vids

Drag races with old cars and manual gearbox is toooooooo exciting for me. I hope this serie will continue

Mat is great at drag racing ... in EVs

@fuze3522

5 ай бұрын

i think everyone is lmao, my dog could launch a Tesla Plaid xD

@Grabient

5 ай бұрын

@@fuze3522 i'd pay to see that!

@andreasw.3705

5 ай бұрын

😁😁

@Matriarchy_Feminism

5 ай бұрын

@@fuze3522 💩🥴💩

@Matriarchy_Feminism

5 ай бұрын

@@fuze3522 even the my mouse can. 😂😂

Both are such beautiful, cool cars. I couldn't choose between them.

Playing Gran Turismo is what made me understand how exciting a Dodge viper is to drive, completly dangerous on the game but when you master the way it drives it is just thrilling and exciting.

Two of my all time favourite old timers ! Thank you carwow!

I think what were learnt here is that Matt cannot actually drive a car that has a manual clutch, a gear stick and no launch control😁

@C6Fever

5 ай бұрын

He can not drive, period

@lesliemccaghy9611

5 ай бұрын

Dont forget no ABS!

@jornhaagen

5 ай бұрын

The pre-89 with 4-speed was meant to live in 2nd and 3rd. His gear shifts are so linear it’s hard to watch. But…breaking the 930…will always be the stuff of nightmares…

@banana-ui2qd

5 ай бұрын

Any manual car review/ drag race is painful to watch. He is hopeless at operating a car

Sad to see a beautiful Viper mistreated... sleeping driver, missing gears ... maybe next time without posh sunglasses?

These cars are legends! If I see them together I must say Wow! 👏

I used to drag race against both of these cars back in the early 1990s in a 150hp 1973 Beetle. They usually won, but not by much.

@JusZard

5 ай бұрын

Lol heck yeah

I dearly miss the good old drag races back from the late 90s and early 2000s when manuals were kings and it was up to the driver's skill, not only flooring your foot and holding the wheel.

My friend had an r/t 10 and I remember the interior looked like an old escort and the doors were tiny and weighed nothing! But once you put your foot down...oh boy! And this was in the UK in early 2000s people thought it was a spaceship turned heads like crazy! Only issue is I burnt my leg getting out on the exhaust.. the little sticker inside the door sill obviously was too little 🤣

Wicked race

This is what makes manual transmissions more fun, skill of the driver really comes into play.

The 911 has always been an impressive car

@grumpy9478

5 ай бұрын

more so than many of their drivers.

@Mandolin1944

5 ай бұрын

But it got beat by the Viper.

@danielh9981

5 ай бұрын

@@Mandolin1944 on boost its faster it seems.. so depending on in which gear they race the 911/viper wins

@dennis_nl7587

5 ай бұрын

​@Mandolin1944 the Viper has 5 litres more displacement... it would've been an absolute disgrace if it didn't win😂

@danielh9981

5 ай бұрын

@@dennis_nl7587 duh na vs turbo

Old school awesome! And we need much more Luna!

@jodeooo25

19 күн бұрын

luna Instagram ? please

Now THAT is a REAL drag race.

I love the old car rage races, because they aren't as linear as the newer ones. There isn't launch control, there are gear change lags, and overall more soul to them.

Viper really looks great after 30 years!

@chrismadson9479

5 ай бұрын

Luna looks good after 30 years!

Great to see a race between to older cars that don’t have all the driver aides that modern ones do. Much more down to driver skill back then.

That RT10 from Gran Turismo 1. Witch the R32 GTR and the Jaccs race moded Civic was my top 3.

New effects are pretty dope guys! Great work carwow team

@benlecluyse

5 ай бұрын

#Facts

I wasn't expecting them to be that quick. I had a 6sp '98 z28, which had the corvette LS1 engine, and it ran 13.8s, which smoked pretty much everything at the time, yet that porsche is more than 10 years older runninh 13.2.

@sylvaind.6786

5 ай бұрын

It's a 911 turbo and you dare to compare it to a Z28😂😂😂

@madcarbs

5 ай бұрын

in a 1/4 mile, yes. My LS1 ran 13.3 stock.

@loweredyote8416

5 ай бұрын

That’s a clean pass 13.8 and Porsche ran a 13.2 with bad launch and bad shifting

@dudeskie2000

5 ай бұрын

It's common knowledge that old american muscle cars really aren't that fast compared to their European competitors

@S8ER

5 ай бұрын

@@madcarbsmy LS1 Z28 did 13.1 stock and a number of people even hit 12s. Crazy how they were slept on so bad and even today people act like they’ve never heard of it. 🤯

I love the old cars shot outs. I have a lightly modded (380ish crank hp) 92 Twin Turbo Stealth weekend car, an APR tuned 2020 SQ7, and a stock 2019 C43 and driving them fast is night and day. The Stealth is raw and just fun to drive fast especially when you get into the boost. The C class is a little faster and in the case of the SQ7 with the APR tune, ridiculously faster but there are no stakes. You just point the steering wheel and press the go pedal with those, which is comparatively boring even though they are faster. Rowing your own gears, all the sounds, no annoying overly protective safety systems, and just the low to the ground fighter pilot cockpit is just fun and makes me smile every time. And the ridiculously tall gearing in a lot of the 90s cars is a blast. 2nd in the Stealth will run around 85 mph so there are just these long, push you back in the seat pulls you don't get with modern 8 speeds.

I was in a 1978 Porsche 924 (I know cheap, not a Porsche) but was having fun racing with a Viper. I held up pretty well.

9:46 Matt got that Rizz game 😂❤

What a video, friend, what a video!!! Two respectable machines, in the competition color, Luna is a charm, she demolished the Viper's idea of ​​insecurity, she stopped a truck before the Porsche!! Sensational!! Hugs from Brazil (especially to Luna 😊👏👏👈👏👏)

Carwow and Matt have the unique ability to take something that sounds incredibly interesting and shit all over it 👏👏👏

Classic showdown right here

We need to give it to the viper. It looks like a modern car. Such a spaceship.

Porsché doing what Porsché does best. When Mat's not messing up the gear changes😂

This would be the first and last video on this channel I’d watch if I wasn’t already a subscriber. 😂

I miss the old “Buy, Sell, CarWow”! My and my wife always enjoyed shouting it when I was watching your videos 😅 0:37

Cybertruk vs 911 Turbo S !!!! ASAP

crazy how in 92' an 8 liter was pushing 400hp compared to today getting it out of a stock 2 liter (NA vs forced induction but still)

@Forgotten_performance

3 ай бұрын

Newer engines whilst more efficient have to work much harder than that old 8 litre. It wasn't tuned to be at it's utmost potential

Really appreciate the translation from cost to weight .

Love the Viper, what a fabulous sound in any case. Well done on this Folks very interesting. Would cadence braking have helped either of these cars stop earlier I wonder. I have used it since I started to drive a very long time ago and luckily never needed it in a real situation but the flashing of the brake lights tends to attract the attention of the vehicle behind in any case!

I don't like football, but love cars. Heck, when I think about it, my football loving friends aren't car guys, and car friends don't like football. Even my dad loves cars but hates football. My brother loves football but doesn't have the slightest interest in cars. I think you're onto something here, Mat 😂

That 911 is a beauty! And I'm also not a football fan at all.

I love it when you explain what happened! The answer is, 'you messed things up' for another time. The cars are perfect - the drivers are rookies.

Mat, is it just me, or you let Luna win, my friend? You're walking on a thin ice, buddy! 😀

@carwow , is it possible to start noting the tires used on the cars? At least for breaking that can greatly change the outcome.

Brilliant race 😜

I have been a car fanatic and football lover since the age of 10 years and still after another 35 years later support Liverpool and a big Porsche fan. The 911 Turbo in black was my bedroom poster when I was a kid

I vote for more drag races with Luna please.. 😁😁

that porsche 😍😍

I’d like to see y’all do a 3 way comparison race the viper rt/10 with a 1990 Diablo, 94 F512M.

Just shows you how much fun imperfect cars with no assists can be. Very entertaining and both cars are pretty much on par, here is the driver the deciding factor, i think.

Let’s go Viper! My favorite car of all time

The Viper driver is missing the count each time. I would say she is a few tenths too late

I've always liked the clean look of the US spec rear red light housings on the 911 compared to the amber ones on Euro cars....

Old but gold 🔥

5:30 her launches are like 3 business days late lol

@hendrixAKA32

5 ай бұрын

I guess she was just unaware that she is supposed to go when the hands just start going down and not after the hands are completely down