The biggest problem with the Adobe pricing model is that companies like Adobe exist solely to suck as much money from you as possible while offering as little as possible. The companies are more interested in pumping as much cash to their shareholders as they are working on being innovative!

@khalilsubahi1310

9 ай бұрын

to be fair .. business is business and indeed no one can compete with them in the current time they offer the most even tho they're expensive on the long run the creative business does pump a lot of money at the end of the day it's just people who aren't pros enough yet who struggle a bit but later on everyone will be able to pay for it

@FrenzyLive1

8 ай бұрын

saying "as little as possible" isn't that fair, since adobe has the biggest monoplies in the world, competing with Meta, WeChat and Google, They own the best software of all of the niches, but the adobe pricing model is too expensive for an average user, but for massive youtubers, massive companies, and movie directors, $60 a month is pocket change

Gotta give a shoutout to DaVinci Resolve and Fusion! Fusion isn't great for motion graphics than AE...but it's definitely better at compositing than AE is. But I've replaced Premiere with Resolve for good for about 6 months now...and can't see myself EVER going back!

@pen1208

Жыл бұрын

Im not sure Id agree with this. I Love Fusion and nodes compared to AE. The amount of 3D Software it works with as well like, Blender, Unreal Engine, Houdini, and Maya is fantastic as well. I do more in half the time with Fusion than AE. Exporting alone blows AE away

@Alanwking

Жыл бұрын

​@@pen1208 yeah, I replaced Premiere and AE with Davinci Resolve. I feel more productive in Fusion than I did in AE.

Adobe hack: They don't check whether you're a student or not, nor ask you for any student credentials ... I've been paying 20 per month for a while now

@davidbentick

Жыл бұрын

Don’t post that here, they’ll find out. 😂

@WilliamThePayne

Жыл бұрын

They do eventually. I was doing this for four years, but after the fifth year they asked for proof

@kaigorodaki

Жыл бұрын

Just pirate it

@davidbentick

Жыл бұрын

@@kaigorodaki didn’t know you could do that anymore… with it being on subscription?

@kaigorodaki

Жыл бұрын

@@davidbentick yeah lol, it's all about knowing the right people 👍 🤫

Me sentiments exactly. Thanks for confirming. I make a living off Adobe but despise my monthly fee. They have us hostage.. and we will remember this when the 1st decent alternatives are available

Adobe is geared towards professionals. I would rather say that Adobe isn't for you rather than it being bad, and that at least is a fair point. You want ready to use templates and other such things that have been around for decades already. That isn't designing anything. That is using something others have made.

Unreal has something called project avalanche that's going to give ae a run for its money

@witchfoxstudio

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting this on my radar!

@JonathanWinbush

Жыл бұрын

@@witchfoxstudio absolutely I'll have some training on it as soon as it drops been working with the team behind the scenes 🤙🏿

@witchfoxstudio

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanWinbush Awesome! I follow your channel so I will be keeping my 👀 out for it!

Yeh - dude - I totally agree as an art director I just can't say no to these other amazing tools anymore because of ADOBE. That building bouncing effect you created was hella sick - solid work dude!

All of my Adobe software stopped working last year. I have been very happy replacing it with Affinity Suite, Capture One, Foundry, Sketch.

Great stuff! I stopped using AE after almost 20yrs and now use Fusion in DaVinci Resolve. It took a few weeks to get the node based thing, but now I don't think I could go back to layers.

@mrelirooney

Жыл бұрын

Is Fusion free?

@abuhamzaalsafadi

Жыл бұрын

do you use it for vfx or motion graphics? i found it hard to do motion graphic design on it

@abuhamzaalsafadi

Жыл бұрын

@@mrelirooney there is a free version but the full version is 300$

@mrelirooney

Жыл бұрын

@@abuhamzaalsafadi I do more vfx than Motion graphics But is it a $300 flat fee or $300 per year?

@abuhamzaalsafadi

Жыл бұрын

@@mrelirooney one time payment, as far as i know the same as davinci resolve i think it's better for vfx but you need to learn how to work with nodes instead of layers, when that is out of the way i think it is better and faster than after effects, even the light version of it on davinci is powerful

I use Affinity, Motion, Blender, Art Text 4, Vectornator, and Pixelmator. Motion integrates very nicely with Pixelmator. I've also got Cavalry installed, but haven't played with yet. I simply don't do enough video editing or do anything intense enough to require anything other than iMovie. iMovie along with Pixelmator and Motion does everything I need it to on that front.

I am definitely seeing where you are coming from, however every online programme lacks the ability to import plugins and run offline, which is definitely not going to cut it for many people like myself.

I see where you're coming from and Adobe subscription get more and more expensive as the years go by but... sorry... both Runway and Canva are extremely limited. I don't think they come close to replacing Photoshop. Any other recommendations?

Yeah totally agreed, still using AE just because of the great community, having lots of creator releases plugins to counter the downside of AE. Hope AI and web-based era can threaten its position in the market a little more, so they could provide what’s really helpful- instead of getting updates of having colour label on key frames, I hope we can get updates on the firmwares that utilise a lot more power on the GPU, having faster response and rendering lol😂

for premiere i think it's over and Davinci is taking over, for photoshop as far as i know the vast majority are using different types of AI apps of even affinity software just because it's faster and more suitable for social media platforms, illustrator could be replaced with even free software but because it's the industry standard for so long it is still mandatory for most designers, and for after effects i don't see replacement for it just yet most of the tools you talked about are VFX tools and nothing for motion designers and the only competitors are apple motion and calvary, Apple slept on motion for so long without regular updates just like fcpx and calvary is still not there yet and can be considered expensive for their monthly subscription

you hit the nail on the head though, the code is 20 years old... they need to rewrite all these scripts from scratch. This is why they bought Figma! They're gonna make a piece of software which has all their programs which is web and app based.

Can't live without AE, illustrator and PS and the fact that you can seamlessly import those projects into any Adobe software makes the whole suite unbeatable. I need to be able to import ai and ps files with all layers in tact.

@KongLoLmf

Жыл бұрын

Affinity! one time purchase

@coolborndj

10 ай бұрын

Photopea :)

@KongLoLmf

9 ай бұрын

@@adoptedorange52951 It happened once, but yes

I just switched from PR & AE to Da’Vinci and Blender. The possibilities are endless with the 2 combined

Mans really just did not mention Davinci Resolve in there in any way possible...wooooooow

If there was a solid replacement for AE I would take it and get off the adobe subscription. Nuke is great but it costs so much more. For most everything else I use there are acceptable alternatives.

@_S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N_

Жыл бұрын

Fusion?

@ed61730

Жыл бұрын

@@_S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N_ fusion is so much better for video compositing but it doesn't hold a candle to ae for text animations, scripts. The layer workflow does help a lot 2d motion graphics

I learned on Adobe but once you leave the classroom you find it to be: 1: Buggy (only Maya is worse) 2: Incompatible with other apps & services and worse it is often incompatible with itself 3: Each application had a different interface 4: Cost more than it was worth Conclusion? Due to the above issues I do not consider Adobe to be a professional product, it is an overcomplicated toy. I found a number of other solutions, the current one I use is Davinci Resolve as it seemed to either solve the above issues or was at least an improvement (and was free). If others have found better I am interested;)

Firefly looks promising but we don't know when it will be out. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I need Adobe Substance Painter :/ Unfortunately there isnt anything else that works fast enough for me and the work I do, and the seamless transition from Substance Painter to Photoshop is something I will never be able to give up

I switched to Davinci Resolve.

I didn’t know Fusion 360 had a search box!!! What a great little unexpected bonus to watching this video.

Been using AE for 4 years now, almost everything I do uses 3rd party plugins, and every update seems to break something. It's insanely slow for simple tasks, buggy issues with no clear solution, constant crashes and updates. If there was a better alternative I would switch in a heartbeat.

I completely agree - I switched to web-based AI tools after five years of using Adobe Cloud. I have saved money and time.

yeah, no getting away from AE just yet - one day though!

@toapyandfriends

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood uses it!

Hey Nate, first off love your videos man! I a have a quick question….can you recommend a site that’s free to create websites? Mainly for my portfolio. Thanks man!

Just going to echo DaVinci Resolve. I worked only for about 4 months with AE and didn't learn much. With Fusion in DR, it took me no time to ramp up; the nodes made more sense than the layers in AE. Now I could use AE better, but why pay the money when I already have DR, which is Video editing, Visual effects, color grading, and Audio all in one program. Adobe needs to do the same to keep people like yourself and not pay for 3-4 different subscriptions; great video, by the way, and best luck. I hope Adobe hears you!

@theysellsoulscheaphere8501

3 ай бұрын

So I'm confused. Premiere Pro is more for simple video editing while After Effects goes more into the motion graphics. Is DaVinci all in one? Or are there different apps like Adobe has?

I needed this video because I'm paying 50 bucks a month for my Adobe but honestly I've just been using Capcut on my phone to do the little edits that I need.

Me: * pirates it anyways *

really needed this Topic for current sutuation bro welcome

Now I haven't used the non-adobe software, but it comes across that they tend to rely on AI for some things that I feel a designer should learn to do from scratch, so that they know the technical side of effects etc. Yeah, sometimes things like AI can help speed up creation therefore work flow, but AI results can be pretty crap. I would rather know how to actually solve a problem than just be pushing pixels. I like that the community can create plug ins and that they have the chance to earn on the back of adobe products. Sure, some of them should be included as standard, but if they all were that would be a hell of a file to download. Also because design trends change, some plug ins may be popular one moment and then hardly used the next 🤷‍♀️ I am happy with Adobe at the mo, never say never on learning new software, but currently, I like how my work flow is seamless between the adobe suite amongst other things. Adobe XD can get in the bin though.

I need Adobe. Will use Adobe. Will start a business that will make me enough money to subscribe to Adobe.

i would rather pay 1-200 every year for a permanent version of photoshop. And be forced to buy for upgrades. I just hate monthly

1:10 photoshop isn’t the tool for Graphic Design, InDesign is

I personally enjoyed Adobe Animate,Photoshop (For pixel Art), and Premiere Pro My Adobe apps never crashed nor made an error and i dont pay cuz ı pirate it

Louis Rossman said that Adobe software works better when pirated, so just do that.

1. InDesign. 2. Acrobat. That's the only reason I'm stuck with them, and it's for client projects. Everything else in their toolset exists elsewhere. Further, they invest far too little in meaningful improvements/fixes, and far too much adding features nobody asked for and buying other companies whose software competes with their own, then kills off their own & charges extra for the others. Brilliant for investors, maybe, but not so much for the endless number of artists who made it possible. Subscriptions killed innovation.

100% all Adobe users should bring a class action against the company due to the millions of hours in lost time fixing things they break each update; plus for researching to, and working around the latest bugs. The ONLY reasons I use Adobe products is that I've invested thousands of dollars in AE and PPRO plugins, AND that still the vast majority of users in the corporate / industrials / agency game unfortunately STILL use PPRO, AND AE is still a great tool even if it is like using a tool from the 90's / early 2000's for most tasks. IF I had only a few million in funding I could engineer THE ABSOLUTE BEST CREATIVE TOOL for high tier creative workflows all the way to consumer, all in one slick, non bloated, user friendly platform with the capacity for unlimited finesse. THERE IS SUCH A MASSIVE GAP IN THIS MARKET. NOTHING OUT THERE AT THE MOMENT COVERS EVERYTHING REQUIRED, and MOST LACK FINESSE, which is what is required at the professional level. The impact this kind of software if done right would have would be like introducing iTunes / Spotify for music for the first time, or iPhones / smartphones to consumers for the first time. IF done right you would capture EVERY creative market excluding only those at the highest end level of the 3D and visual effects industries. Adobe REALLY DOESN'T GET IT!! THEY'RE A BUSINESS THAT'S FULL OF "FULL TIMERS", FAR TOO COMFORTABLE IN THEIR ROLES, HAPPY TO "JUST EXIST" OR "JUST DO ENOUGH" WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE SO VERY LACKING!! As you say, they've been around for over 3 decades, and in this last decade have amassed amazing wealth BUT have not even remotely kept an semblance of pace with the innovations in software and hardware development, across any of the creative spaces. They should be regarded as, and be a greater business than Apple or Microsoft by now, but they're less innovative than your local laundromat. Adobe feels like a bloated government. Plenty of funds going in, very few stable or helpful outputs coming out; but also a serious lack of outputs in response to what we actually demand!

Adobe Team and Avid Tech Team always making buggy software updates and dragging their heels on actually improving the software- resolve is paving th way

A comment with the Links or the names would be great xD

WHAT? I want to see your real workflow with those apps! I bet that you use everthing from Adobe haha

Its funny...I guess..I be drinking the Grape Kool-aid...LOLOL...because over the years I've tried to pull away from Adobe especially PS and AI alternatives and there's nothing that compares to the those two. I even tried Canva, I guess I'm too old school, I kinda like having my files that I don't need to be online....LOL That's just me. I do agree Adobe has been slacking over the years, just like the 3D companies.

Amen.

At this point they should just make it open source

I am always baffled by the complaints that Adobe's suite is too expensive. If you're a hobbyist, then yes, it's probably too expensive. But if you're ANY level of professional, $60 a month for EVERYTHING is a drop in the bucket. If you aren't able to pay back the subscription price with earnings, then this might not be the career for you. It's the price you pay to be a professional, and (for the most part) use software and file formats that is industry standard. You send a Photoshop document or Illustrator file to a professional company/client/magazine/etc, they will be able to open it seamlessly. The minute you start using other apps, you introduce the possibility that the exported file, even if it's in the psd or ai format, might have some sort of janky element in it. Whenever I see someone complain loudly about $60 a month, that just instantly lets me know they aren't professionals.

@tizdg

Жыл бұрын

If you're not a professional you need the programs and that's it

@hardtfilms

Жыл бұрын

the problem is not how much it is, but where is this money being invested on?? I switched to davinci last year and just noticed of how much flawed premiere pro is and how old the software is. imo it just became a software for amateurs. my render times just jumped from 1 hour to 20 minutes for example

mentions canva as a good alternative? I am sorry but if you are using canva as graphic designer you will be replaced with AI in the next few years.

@susanwojcicki5714

Жыл бұрын

i can make better graphics than u with microsoft paint, it’s about the artist and creativity

@duranburnett

Жыл бұрын

@@susanwojcicki5714 My point is exactly that. Because Canva is super limiting. Paint literally gives you more freedom than Canva does. I have been a graphic designer for a decade and I am a lecturer in design thinking. I have a bit experience, and believe me Canva is not a good alternative. Canva is for companies that cannot afford Graphic designers and does not mind crapping out generic stuff.

only thing i can agree with is that adobe is getting too expensive, all the rest may be said for hobbyists, not professionals

And they wonder why cracks for their software are so prevalent. I'm to the point If it's offered as a subscription, I don't need it. I'll just do without life will go on.

@_S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N_

Жыл бұрын

They're fully aware of people using cracks. It's part of their strategy. Realistically very few beginners are able to pay for the subscription and few professionals can reliably keep using cracked versions. They let beginners use cracks until you're into the ecosystem and by which point its difficult to switch. Heck even official Adobe social media accounts have recommended piracy as an option.

Good thing i support Luffy and his crew members

Hobbyists will just pirate the adobe programs that they want to use, no one in their right mind would pay that much to make memes and do light editing

@Ipsissimus

Жыл бұрын

lol this.

- Do You Really Need Adobe? - Yes!

I think you forgott GIMP... Come on. It´s really power full and free.

Davinci Resolve

@Nareshb_97

Жыл бұрын

Does davinci resolve have watermark?

Adobe sucks but I don't really see that the other products can replace stuff...

if ur using adobe products without even making adobe style art or videos then wtf are u doing

I only use it bc of the big community

@toapyandfriends

Жыл бұрын

😎I use Adobe for all reasons!

For Video editing Final Cut Pro and Davinci Resolve, Adobe is almost dead. Photoshop, Lightroom, and Illustrator are great.

Our bruh.. didnt get firefly early access yet

completely disagree with the graphic design take, Photoshop is still an absolute beast..

Those AI tools you showed us were NOT impressive at all in terms of results. Sorry.

Actually we can NOT agree that Adobe has been slacking! Adobe is the STANDARD for creatives! If you're having issues with adobe apps it's user error!

Bro have you seen Firefly this video is already outdated

I just wasted 10 minutes of my life because of the bullshit alternative to adobe software you gave, I am a creative 3d designer and I have been using adobe suite for more than 10 years, and I am safe to say that adobe is still dominating the fields by miles from other software and tools, For me adobe is like the forbidden love.

adobe's gonna sue you for this XD

It is mind-boggling that After Effects is still a thing.