When I was in the military, I had been up for 3 days straight with minimal food and water. I remember having a full on conversation with my grandfather during that time. My grandfather died when I was 12 and he wouldn't have been in the field with me anyways if he was still alive. The human mind under great stress is very fragile. Having memories of talking to my grandfather doesn't prove ghosts and it definitely doesn't prove a god.

@ryvercardn3387

Ай бұрын

I was at the tail-end of a 72 hour shift, and my partner and I were arguing about seeing a yeti (it was a tree), and my "logical reasoning" at the time for why it couldn't be a yeti was because "they're not indigenous to this area!!" Sleep deprivation does some monumental weird things to our thought processes.

@kasocool2812

Ай бұрын

​@@ryvercardn3387"clearly this is Bigfoot territory"

@amandarhodes4072

26 күн бұрын

Add to this that in ancient times people regularly use to burn hemp wood in fires as it one of the few bushes that grew in such a harsh climate. One of the side effects of the smoke produced by burning the roots of Hemp is it's hallucinogenic. So when mosses came upon a burning bush in the desert and heard voices talk to him of cause he would think it was god.

@paulmcdonald9257

20 күн бұрын

I have had a similar experience. Lack of sleep and high stress can cause your synapses to misfire. I had a conversation with my Dad in which we discussed the manner of his Death. I remember every word of it but am in no doubt that it never actually happened.

@kasocool2812

20 күн бұрын

@@paulmcdonald9257 during exams in highschool. Stress and anxiety and a bout of insomnia. Caused me to lose it a bit and I was 100% convinced that if the large moth on the outside of my window got to me I would die.

After listening to this call, the most offensive thing for me is that Eddie is calling himself rational, he very clearly is not

@DJMarcO138

Ай бұрын

You can practically hear him stomping his widdle feet and pouting xD

@GoodBrotherGrimm

Ай бұрын

That and using a poor woman's suicide to push his nonsense.

@Acteaon

Ай бұрын

My biggest headache 🤕 was that too!

@FakingANerve

Ай бұрын

​@@GoodBrotherGrimm Yeah, that was pretty disgusting. Sorry you lost your friend, bud, but don't try to cash that in to "explain" your "rational" positions. Jesus fucking Christ...

@quotedotes

Ай бұрын

You don't know the cooooooonteeeeeeeeeeext! I feel it's true therefore it is! I'm a skeptical person that believes things without evidence!

It's literally shocking how gullible and illogical people are

@warmstrong5612

Ай бұрын

Not really. Humanity can be pretty stupid.

@Ninthofnine1969

20 күн бұрын

Ummmm have anyone noticed it's mostly(only) Americans who are this gullible... So indoctrinated into belief from authority it's scary.

@daydays12

16 күн бұрын

It is really appalling I agree.

The desperation of these callers to justify their fictional deity is embarrassing.

@normkeller2405

Ай бұрын

I've often thought that more people are concerned about Jose, than about Jesus. At the start of every game, the whole crowd rises to their feet, and asks, "Jose can you see?". That's proof that Jose is real.

@Stevo_Drums

Ай бұрын

…and exhausting

@TheZombieSaints

Ай бұрын

Olympic grade mental-gymnastics

@AntitheistHuman

Ай бұрын

I truly struggle to understand how are they considered to be "adults"

@Miraak1868

Ай бұрын

And I would add, "their total fanatical lunacy"

It is difficult trying to explain scientific concepts to a person who has been conditioned to reject science.

@AcidGubba

Ай бұрын

But he is open minded and thinks he thinks rationally.

@jwsanders1214

Ай бұрын

I love science , bring it on !

@zombine555

Ай бұрын

​@@jwsanders1214alright. Explain the scientific theory of evolution, a couplw of the mechanism therein, and the lines of evidence we have to confirm the theory as the single best supported idea in science.

@PrivateSi

29 күн бұрын

Science was supposed to be conditioned to reject Science but it got liberally spoilt rotten and turned to stupidly inclusive mush and vanity science hyper-wastage!

@opinion3742

25 күн бұрын

One can treat science like some infallible god too. Most of know shit about really, we rely on what others tell us. And most of us don't have an overall very good understanding of what science really is, what it can and what it can't tell us about life.

The caller is way too emotionally invested in his conclusion and is fighting tooth and nail to defend his irrational thinking.

@daydays12

16 күн бұрын

There are millions of people like him unfortunately.

@scipioafricanus5871

Күн бұрын

@@daydays12 yes, they are called real people, you should meet them sometime.

Eddie doesn’t need god, he needs therapy. Seeing a friend kill themselves would totally cause trauma. I hope he got the medical help he needs.

@EleanorofAquitaine42

29 күн бұрын

Thank you! Poor Eddie sounds like he’s trying to make meaning out of a terrifying and traumatic event in his life. PTSD can cause your mind to do crazy things. Also, has anyone checked on the wiring, rodent situation and carbon monoxide emissions of the place he was living?

@oggyoggy1299

27 күн бұрын

He saw it?

@daydays12

16 күн бұрын

I agree. He is disturbed and confused.

"These ppl who question the validity of legends and hearsay are unreasonable, but me who believes in "ghosts" without any actual theory for why and how is totally reasonable" Eddy 2017-1-22

Even if Paul met the brother it doesn't do anything to prove that the magical Jesus myth is true.

@josephbelisle5792

Ай бұрын

Whose brother. Billions of Christians believe Jesus was an only child and Mary is still a virgin. The varieties of the myths go on and on. One group claiming in one version is hardly truth. Giving it any credence is more than it deserves.

@davidszeremi1786

Ай бұрын

Jesus can be a first century magician and it proves nothing of his divinity.... Assuming he isn't a collection of other people

@davidszeremi1786

Ай бұрын

​@@josephbelisle5792he had family, he father might have had other wives or she had more children. Perpetual virginity is a religious doctrine but it might not be accurate. I heard of "The church of James the Just brother of Jesus" and that Paul fought with his movement and made sure it failed.

@Alltime2050

Ай бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786 Exactly.

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

Ай бұрын

@@josephbelisle5792 Jesus had a brother. Mary was a virgin, she was just terrible at it.

“We could mention her name around other lightbulbs” 😅😅😅 I love it.

"Immoral is literally the same thing as unlawful. You should know this already, why are you trying so hard to embarrass yourself?" Oh the irony of being called ignorant by someone who thinks that 'immoral' and 'illegal' are the same thing 🤣

@shrews12001

Ай бұрын

Unlawful is cheating on your taxes Immoral is cheating at tic-tac-toe

@jamesparson

Ай бұрын

Mayonnaise on a hotdog is immoral.

@simonkoster

Ай бұрын

I recently came across the term "Argnorant" as portmanteau of Arrogant and Ignorant. I may start using it.

"He didn't say 'Jesus'. He said, 'Hey, Zeus!' My name is Zeus."

@DragonHeart-cm1tx

Ай бұрын

"As in father of Apollo! Mount Olympus! Don't f**k with me or I'll shove a lightning bolt up your a**! ZEUS! You got a problem with that!?"

@SundaeRoast

Ай бұрын

@@DragonHeart-cm1tx No, as in 'Die Hard with a Vengeance' :)

@garybaltiejus7248

Ай бұрын

Like the die hard reference

@benjaminmadrigalperez9010

Ай бұрын

That actually happened on greece with. Pan

@jwsanders1214

Ай бұрын

why do the Heathen Rage ?

It really is amazing how far the theists have been forced to retreat in their desperation to justify their delusions

@chetsavage2536

27 күн бұрын

Not far enough, sadly.

Classic “God of the GAPS”.

@Ironraven001

Ай бұрын

Sooooooo many gaps. I feel bad for Eddie though. Seeing someone kill themselves in front of me would mess me up too. 😢

@ericgraham3344

Ай бұрын

@@Ironraven001 Don’t Feel Sorry for him

If Jesus existed, no one who met him wrote about him and anyone who wrote about him never met him.

@gordonlynn8300

Ай бұрын

And he didn't write anything , probably because he was illiterate like almost everyone else then .

@Specialeffecks

Ай бұрын

Add "and they all lived in a primitive and superstitious culture at a time with no easy fact-checking." (If fact-checking would even occur to those motivated to get converts).

@slackerman9758

Ай бұрын

And Nazareth wasn’t occupied when he was to have been born.

@kennethgee2004

Ай бұрын

false. What do you think the gospel are? When do you think that they were written?

@jwsanders1214

Ай бұрын

What a foolish thing to say

"I'm a rational person..." ad nauseam. Methinks the gullible doth protest too much.

@IRGeamer

Ай бұрын

"It depends...", "It depends...", "It depends..." Yes Eddy, we get it. It depends on how wilfully ignorant of logical reasoning and verifiable reality you are.

@josephbelisle5792

Ай бұрын

You hear this by people who really are not what they claim to be. 'To tell you the truth'. 'Let me be honest with you'. Makes you doubt they are truthful and honest.

@Ironraven001

Ай бұрын

I'm a rational person... who doesn't understand what RATIONAL means. Sheesh.

Most atheists don't seem to care if there's a historical Jesus or not for it doesn't affect a god aspect. As for me, there's not enough data to actually prove a historical Jesus.

@vitast2000

Ай бұрын

Much less the dude walked on water, and was able to heal blindness with magic spit.

@SundaeRoast

Ай бұрын

@@vitast2000 Oh no, don't tell me he didn't turn water into wine either! I was hoping to hire him for my wedding.

@jwsanders1214

Ай бұрын

So what do you have , a historical bang ? I choose Jesus

@Gerryjournal

Ай бұрын

​@@jwsanders1214c'mon, it's the 21st century

@michaelbell3181

Ай бұрын

@@jwsanders1214 Like choosing the Easter Bunny, I get it. I was once a devout Christian. I studied in an attempt to become clergy in 2 of the 44,000 (and why does that number never shock anyone) denominations of Christianity. I not only read it but studied it! Let me be explicitly clear, both times my brain checked in before Seminary!

Until 3 weeks ago, I thought he was a historical figure until I was looking for evidence that Jesus was woke, only to find there isn’t any valid evidence that Jesus existed. Now, I don’t believe a historical Jesus was a real person.

@geoffallshorn5167

Ай бұрын

I came to that conclusion after reading about the Raglan/Rank mythotype that implicitly includes Hercules, Moses, Jesus, Robin Hood, King Arthur, Luke Skywalker and Harry Potter.

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

Why were you looking for evidence of Jesus being woke?

@classybree2241

Ай бұрын

He was not a real person he was created to deceive people

@anthonycraig274

Ай бұрын

@@einienj3281 You read that the world’s most famous historical person ever may have never existed due to the sheer lack of evidence and your take is “why are you looking for evidence Jesus was woke” absolutely baffles me.

@anthonycraig274

Ай бұрын

@@geoffallshorn5167 I first found David Fitzgerald on this channel and read his book *Nailed*. Although it was the smoking gun, it wasn't the evidence that convinced me. I then stumbled onto Richard Carrier's peer reviewed work, *On the Historicity of Jesus* which gave a full synopsis on how Jesus was invented, why he was invented, the mathematical probability and possibility, and went through all the so-called evidence of Jesus and against, great work.

I've heard so many of these campfire stories over the years. Some people want to swallow the supernatural because reality is not enough for them.

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

Eddy seems like a guy who would see that as a connection to justify thinking a campfire is causing the feeling of being creeped out.

Finding a rabbi by that name in the Middle East 2000 years ago would be like finding a dude named Steve Johnson in the US today. Who gives a shit? Are you gonna worship Steve if I write a shitty fanfic about him?

@thomaswigfield7623

Ай бұрын

Possibly, depends how convincing it is. (Only kidding, no).

@phillysupra

Ай бұрын

Steve Johnson of Springfield. (there's a Springfield in every state) 🤣

@taylorlibby7642

Ай бұрын

Depends. What cool stuff does Steve do in your shitty fanfic? If he can change water into IPA for my cousins wedding we might have something to build on.😂🤣

@delbomb3131

Ай бұрын

I know literally 3 steve johnson's and i live in a city of 4k people in Wisconsin lol

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

@@delbomb3131 Stoughton?

Its hard to imagine a God that would engineer the most important event in human history but never bother to engineer anyone to record it, human nature was well established at that point so he must have known no one with a rational mind that he gave them would beleive this.

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

Yeah... the tribal war g0d was not only an evil immoral ratbag, he was totally incompetent despite being all knowing and all powerful.

one should not be so open minded that ones brains fall out......

Because I had an experience I can't explain, I will vote for legislation to force others to: Speak in Togues, Genuflect, Wear Beanie Caps without the Propeller, Align Chakras, Bow to the East 7 X Per Day, Hold E-Meter Cans, Wear Magic Underwear, etc...

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

don't forget the prohibitive stuff. no bacon, no birth control etc.

@Specialeffecks

Ай бұрын

@holgerlubotzki3469 No rights for others for things I don't like and that I believe others should not have the right that also don't affect my life in any way (other than to thwart my desire to impose my will upon others, that I have personally determined also aligns exactly with my god's will).

searched "CNN reporter attacked by ghost" And the lead story was. "Reporter unfazed by haunted house"

This caller is why I no longer have any patience for theist's "personal experience". It literally is just a "because I say so" argument.

@timg7627

Ай бұрын

I agree. They’re all the same. “Trust me bro, stuff happened to me” -every theist from every religion 🙄🤦

@joecoolioness6399

29 күн бұрын

I ask them if they believe that prayer works, and most say yes. So I say then pray that your god give me my personal experience so I can join them in heaven when I die. So far, it has not happened.

I'd say Jesus as described in the bible is mythical, whether an actual man existed in the middle eastern desert 2000 years ago or not.

@shrews12001

Ай бұрын

Given how removed from the time the actual writing was I would at best accept that the character of Jesus was based on an amalgam of people that were told to have existed. The supernatural being pure fantasy.

@jwsanders1214

Ай бұрын

goo to you by way of the zoo

@tekbarrier

Ай бұрын

@@jwsanders1214 i'm sorry you don't understand science

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

Ай бұрын

Jesus seems to be a composite character. In a similar way that King Arthur or Ois’in is. Different stories can get attached to pre-existing characters that the audience is familiar with. A great example of the classical story of Perseus and the Minotaur which was reborn in the renaissance and hit England … but nobody there knew who Perseus was or what a Minotaur looked like. So, Perseus became Saint George and the Minotaur became a dragon. Pre-existing characters that an audience can relate to attract popular stories.

@user-pw6gm1tu6q

28 күн бұрын

@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 yes its all just based on archetypes,there is only so many archetypes to include and write a story about,the hero,the underdog,the lover etc etc thats why most poems books tv programmes and movies all have a similar recognisable structure but just with different characters and dialogue,its the reason when u start watching a film u can kind of predict the path its gonna take and ultimately the ending with obviously a few exceptions with good twists etc and its the ones that manage to be a bit different that seem to do well cos they seem abit original,i think game of thrones did well originally because although many archetypal storylines and characters existed but the so called hero types were killed off shockingly early at times which kind of bucked the trend of the likes of lord of the rings which although there seemed to be alot of jeapardy and close calls none of the 15 or so good guys actually died by the end of the films and it followed the good v evil ,light v darkness archetype from start to finish

My Niece did the same thing when her father (my brother) died. She went up to Alaska and saw an eagle. For the next couple of years, she kept on noticing 'eagles', whether it was on a billboard, in a song, on a can of Tecate, she started seeing many eagles and somehow associated it with her dad. I asked if there was anything significant that was shared between them about eagles before his death, and she said no. She reported that it stopped after a couple of years.

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

Traumatic experiences can cause the mind to make up weird connections. When my husband died, I had all sorts of meltdowns of ration. Like: "if I only had done this or that, then this would not have happened"..like I could somehow erase time and everything would be ok. The outcome would not change, bc I can't go back in time, obviously. Grief is such a powerful shock to the system, that you literally try to grasp straws to stay afloat..

@GoriusMaximus

Ай бұрын

@@Specialeffecks when I started working for the ambulance service I started noticing ambulances everywhere.

"When I was sitting on your side of the table" by this statement alone he has admitted as an atheist he would have been skeptical of unexplained things and now that he is a theist he goes with whatever feels or sounds best.. this is a direct example that believing in religion makes you illogical and guilable

Well done to user Sir Barry V8 for spotting Floridunce's howler in saying that Jesus was buried, when in fact he was just placed in a tomb! How embarrassing for Flo to not know such a basic 'fact' about his own saviour. He should read his Bible more 🤣

My beloved kitty passed away a week ago and I kept seeing his face in the shadows and him walking around out of the corner of my eye. It was my brain starting to adjust to him being gone until I could accept it + then "seeing him" stopped. (Love you, Hoover!)

I think it's likely that a charismatic preacher fell afoul of the government and was crucified during that time. Probably several.

@BlackDeath920

28 күн бұрын

Definitely several

Eddie... Eddie...Eddie, cmon now

@phillysupra

Ай бұрын

The dude thought a halogen bulb blowing out was god.... He's mentally not capable. Period.

@Jebus_Anti-theist

Ай бұрын

Eddie's in the space time continuum.

abraham lincoln was a vampire hunter. There is a movie on it so it must be true

@bestbehave

Ай бұрын

Well I’ve certainly got no other explanation

@AXKfUN9m

Ай бұрын

I thought he was the King of Mars?

@stephenolan5539

Ай бұрын

​@@AXKfUN9m The candy company?

@AXKfUN9m

Ай бұрын

@@stephenolan5539 No, the red planet.

If the woman died doesn’t Christian doctrine say that she either went to heaven or hell? Wouldn’t his belief that she is a ghost haunting him prove that something other than Christianity is in play?

@davidszeremi1786

Ай бұрын

They could reason that a ghost hasn't gone to their reward? Ghost games and movies tend to embrace the idea they will move on the light or darkness. Frankly I find the zombie apocalypse in the new testament more funny.

@GoriusMaximus

Ай бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786 According to the bible there is an unseen spirit realm but it’s populated by angels and fallen angels (demons). I’ve never seen a passage that implies there are the ghosts of humans wandering the earth to blow up light bulbs or knock down paintings.

I am always cautious about skeptics who quickly abandon their skepticism because they lack the creativity to think about other possibilities. It makes skepticism seem like a feeble position waiting for an unexplained experience rather than a position that aims to support things we think we know.

@SundaeRoast

Ай бұрын

I don't believe you. Actually, yes I do.

@ARoll925

Ай бұрын

That's not a skeptic

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

Ай бұрын

Why would a skeptic require creativity? It’s a method for assessing the truth of claims, not making sh!t up. You have no idea what you are talking about.

@Soylent1981

Ай бұрын

@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 I would say an integral part of skepticism is the ability to doubt what you think you know. A method of doubting is to be able to think of plausible alternatives to the assumed knowledge. Indeed, one of the most famous instances of skepticism, Renée Descartes, conceived of an evil demon to aid in his doubt. A person who cannot imagine an alternative is more likely to hold their belief as true since they are unable to see how the evidence points to another possibility. Your comment is almost meaningless because you give no indication of the mechanism that skepticism uses as a means to assess the truth. The scientific method is built on creativity; creativity to propose a hypothesis worthy of testing and a creative methodology to conduct the experiments. Creativity is an important element of skepticism.

"Im a rational person, I had experiences that I cant explain = theism" - That comment right there IS in fact irrational.

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

Exactly. There's that "I was an atheist" again..no. He had a traumatic experience then connected a random lightbulb exploding to there being a god. Then he claims to be a rational person.....

@aemiliadelroba4022

Ай бұрын

It simply means the person does not know what happened . There are lots of things we don’t know. That is not irrational!😮

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

@@aemiliadelroba4022 It's his reasoning that makes him irrational. 1. Traumatic experience. 2. Talking about this experience. 3. Lightbulb breaks. 4. Supernatural. 5. God exists because 2, 3 and 4.

@AussieNaturalist

Ай бұрын

@@aemiliadelroba4022 You totally missed the problem, which is that he he said that he had experiences that he coulnt explain which led him to believe that there must be a "God", which, as I pointed out, IS irrational. The ONLY rational thing to say when you DONT KNOW what happened, is, I dont know, not.... It must have been a "God".

Ghosts. Therefore Jesus did magic. Okaaaaaaaay

@magoo1950

Ай бұрын

That's the issue with so many theist arguments. Let's say he is right and the ghost of a person who committed suicide was causing these supernatural events. How does that therefore prove Jesus? Maybe Zeus is the cause. Maybe Allah. Maybe an unknown force that has never revealed themselves in human history.

I have watched this many, many times...and Eddy just doesn't get that a) he makes zero effort to try to find out WHY things happen, b) blindly accepts that things happen & c) he should be heavily fined for daring to call himself RATIONAL!

The lightbulb guy! I remember him 😂

every single thing Paul ever wrote about Jesus was at best hearsay, at best, think about that

@kennethgee2004

Ай бұрын

false. Paul spoke the gospel of Christ and went to Jerusalem to confirm with the other apostles that he was preaching the same thing. it was the other apostles that declared Paul an apostle of Jesus. What do you think historical means?

@jwsanders1214

Ай бұрын

You don't have a clue

@kennethgee2004

Ай бұрын

@@jwsanders1214 ok that might be true, but it is not an argument. A might is still an unknown. How about you add some reason and evidence to formulate a full argument.

@jwsanders1214

Ай бұрын

@@kennethgee2004 Sorry my friend you are 100 percent correct I humbly ask you let me out of this , you are right , I am wrong I miss read what you said

@jwsanders1214

Ай бұрын

@@kennethgee2004 Keep Being Salt and Light we all need to hear it

I've been having a shit few weeks. Hearing this guy make his "arguments" and "challenges" and just run himself in circles has made me belly laugh so much. Needed this.

So I think there's a good chance that the caller could become an atheist. For many believers, it's completely unrealistic that they would even question their faith; for them, it's absolute and doubt isn't allowed. Okay, I take it back, the guy is not particularly intelligent. But who knows, maybe he will accidentally broaden his horizons.

Self delusion is very real. My family can attest that I have believed I was a werewolf since age 5. It took me another 63 years to learn that I have a very rare psychological condition called Lycanthropy Personality Disorder. This makes more logical sense than me being a supernatural creature who has never shown the ability to transform. I even gave up my religious beliefs more than 35 years ago.

@robinharwood5044

Ай бұрын

What happens at full moon?

@vernonlomax1721

Ай бұрын

@@robinharwood5044 haha! The full moon didn’t affect me. You wouldn’t believe the complex story I weaved to justify my belief. Try cross dimensional symbiosis with a lycanthropy species. Obviously, I have an overactive imagination.

@SeattleDinghyer

Ай бұрын

Puberty must have been tough... i saw your documentary about high school: Teen Wolf.

The story of Jesus has parallel stories with Buddha, Krishna and several Greek and Roman Gods. Several other ancient myths also persist in the story.

@shrews12001

Ай бұрын

Both testaments are almost entirely lifted from previous myths and legends, some with slight changes and others near word for word with new names. The Bible is a Readers Digest of religious horse hockey

Paul the apostle, had an epistle That was so long it made all the girls whistle.

@SundaeRoast

Ай бұрын

...And when he got it out On a staff day out It resulted in instant dismissal.

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

And he went to launch his missile but the ladies all did bristle and they beat him off with a thistle.

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

Ай бұрын

@@holgerlubotzki3469 Beat him off with a thistle? Paul was a freak but was he that freaky?

@holgerlubotzki3469

Ай бұрын

@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 He never used a feather! He always used a hole (sic) chicken

I simply do not believe him when he talks about his supernatural stories. There is no mechanism for lightbulbs to explode. This isn’t a movie.

@bestbehave

Ай бұрын

That just proves it. 😂

@joelonsdale

15 күн бұрын

Splash of water can do it. Happened to me.

The idiocy of a troll reposting the same tired arguments over and over has no bottom.

@rbwinn3

Ай бұрын

I repost the same correct equations for relativity over and over again. So far no one has offered to discuss them.

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

@@rbwinn3 I LITERALLY offered you to come on my live stream and discuss it. AND SO many people have responded to your idiotic comment that all of physicists are wrong and you are right because you understand junior high algebra and don't seem to think that physicists, even Lorentz, doesn't understand junior high algebra.

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

​@@queueceewhat could physicists with PHD's know compered to a LSD with high-school algebra? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@nealjroberts4050

Ай бұрын

​@@rbwinn3😆😂🤣

@Seticzech

Ай бұрын

@@rbwinn3 "no one has offered to discuss them" Discussing nonsense is nonsensical.

If you see a guy in a public street verbally abusing a fruit tree, do you cross the street or say, wow look, the son of god?

@bestbehave

Ай бұрын

What other possible explanation is there?

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

Ай бұрын

Was it a fig tree? Fig trees are tw@ts.

The caller says he has an open mind, I wonder though if it might be open at both ends.

@gordonlynn8300

Ай бұрын

I think his brain fell out .

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

Empty between the ears

So you have Paul, killing off Christians and then suddenly he becomes THE head of the church having specifically state he had never met the figurehead of the religion outside of dreams and visions. And he gets all the benefits of being the head of the church by continuing to state that he talked to people who knew Jesus. We have no reason to listen to Paul as he gains the same head of church status had he just made up all these claims and never talked to anyone.

@stephenolan5539

Ай бұрын

Imagine if the FBI agent in charge of watching Scientology had a seizure and thought that L Ron Hubbard was God. I think that would parallel Paul.

@twowardrobeswardrobes1536

Ай бұрын

Paul was a boss. He made the entire Christian population his b!tch. He saw an opportunity and grabbed it with both hands. You’ve got to give the guy a bit of credit for that.

Another throwback: I used to be surprised that so many of my fellow theists kept getting atheism wrong. Initially I blamed it on the so called New Atheism which essentially was a deliberately provocative form of antitheism. However, the continuation of the wrong definitions and inferences being propounded despite education by atheists and by theists like myself leads to the conclusion that it's deliberate ignorance. The reasons for that avoidance of truth seem to come down to two basic ones: fear and/or hatred. Fear of being wrong, fear of losing community, fear of losing purpose, etc Hatred of what's different, hatred that others can live with different purposes and beliefs, etc etc. It comes as no surprise that these sorts of people also are the most intolerant in society, the most misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic/racist/"othertheismphobic"/etc. I pity them.

@vladtheemailer3223

Ай бұрын

I think a lot of it comes down to the need to reinforce the ingroups position.

The pretzel logic of theists is always amusing and very telling.

I had an experience I can't explain, so my explanation is Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Scientology, aliens/UFOs, Big Foot, etc...

"Did you try mentioning her name around other light bulbs?" 😅😅😅

I really like Traci's analogy: "zero plus zero plus zero (etc) will never equal one".

@david-pb4bi

28 күн бұрын

Ye, that was brilliant, she is always good value.

But... His story IS a myth - even by the Christian view of him. myth (noun) "a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events."

Actually, now that I think about it, my power went out while I was on the phone with my boss yesterday, so obviously that's proof that the ghost of the still-living customer we were talking about got Jesus to trip my circuit breaker. QED.

You can just hear his brain desperately trying to cling to his irrational belief at all costs

"I was an atheist"..no. He had a traumatic experience then connected a random lightbulb exploding to there being a god. Then he claims to be a rational person.....

My favorite pair!

Idc if some dude named Yeshua existed or not. The guy walking on water, multiplying fish and resurrecting from the dead ABSOLUTELY DID NOT EXIST.

Eddy sounds like a cherry picker. he should go to washington state and pick cherries and other fruits. If your god does things that dont make sense you have to accept he does not exist. The entire story of God and Jesus is so unreasonable it isnt funny.

Eddy has no idea what he believes

@party4keeps28

Ай бұрын

He just believes what he's been told to believe.

The Jewish preacher who was executed as a public nuisance and the miracle working godman who saved humanity are two different characters.

@jwsanders1214

Ай бұрын

You don't have a clue

@davidszeremi1786

Ай бұрын

What are your sources?

@gerhardgiedrojc991

28 күн бұрын

@@jwsanders1214How can you have a clue about something that does not exist. What a stupid question it is until the claim that a musical maker exists.

I was thinking about blueberries when a plane flew over my house. Now I realize blueberries are the reason aircraft can fly.

"I used to be an atheist" = I just wasn't very religious / didn't go to church lol

Yep.

I think that Jesus was mythical. Does anyone want to provide evidence to the contrary?

@vladtheemailer3223

Ай бұрын

The biblical Jesus or historical Jesus?

@thomaswigfield7623

Ай бұрын

@@vladtheemailer3223 Is there a difference?

@SundaeRoast

Ай бұрын

Well, a book said a thing - so there's that.

@phillysupra

Ай бұрын

​@@SundaeRoastif a book said it, then it's GOT to be true 🤣🤣

@vladtheemailer3223

Ай бұрын

@thomaswigfield7623 The typical view among secular scholars is that Jesus was a historical figure. He was not the Messiah or the son of God. What you see in the NT is called "apotheosis." The apostles basically made up everything so that they could have the Messiah that they needed.

"The plural of anecdote is not data". I'm keeping that.

"When I read books on particle physics, even ontological argument, and John Lennox ......" The caller actually said three unrelated things in a sentence.

I think he was a real dude. That doesn't make anything in the bible true

@phillysupra

Ай бұрын

Jesus was a common name just like the other "apostle" names were. So yeah there was a guy named Jesus

@queuecee

Ай бұрын

@@phillysupra Hey, pssst. You wanna get into heaven? Well, I know a guy.

@vladtheemailer3223

Ай бұрын

​@@queueceeCan he help me make $42,000 a week? Who is this amazing guy?

@vladtheemailer3223

Ай бұрын

​@@phillysupraI don't doubt there was some apocalyptic prophet named Jesus. What we see in the bible is an individual being divinified.

@phillysupra

Ай бұрын

@@queuecee sign me up! I now feel like donating 10% of my paycheck to this guy every check.

Jesus the person may or may not have existed but if he did, he was just a person. Pity, as he could have made a fortune with all those -miracles- magic tricks. He wouldn't have stayed a humble carpenter for long 😅

@qwadratix

Ай бұрын

I suspect he did. The entry to Jerusalem reads like an account of a con-man trying to pass himself off as the Messiah that all ended badly for him. (The donkey and foal bit?, very suspect. And the reaction of the crowd who'd rather have Barabbas released than this guy. They were p*ssed.)

@nealjroberts4050

Ай бұрын

​@@qwadratix Would explain why Nazareth is depicted as not believing anything about him. It being his hometown

Try to count how many times that Eddy started his answer with "no...but", while he's trying to convince us of his open mindedness.

If someone claimed in a letter that they had met Spiderman's brother, is that 'historical evidence' to conclusively prove that Spiderman existed?

I WAS an atheist, means I was NEVER an atheist.

@davidszeremi1786

Ай бұрын

Couldn't a person go from not being convinced to being convinced that there is a God because they have poor critical thinking skills?

@SeattleDinghyer

Ай бұрын

​@@davidszeremi1786and the reverse. I was a Christian, and now I'm an atheist.

@davidszeremi1786

Ай бұрын

@@SeattleDinghyer same. I learned too much about the Bible

@ronwhitehouse23

Ай бұрын

@@davidszeremi1786 Could it be they possibly have delusional tendencies.?

@RabenmundK

Ай бұрын

​​@@davidszeremi1786 Yes, it happened to me. Grew up in a household of unbelievers and didnt put a lot of thought into my 'atheism'. During a rough time in my life i met christians who helped me out and their story - and my own experiences - were very convinving. So i converted and stayed a Christian for some years. But, since i also was a critical thinker - and someone who read thr bible - i found more and more inconsistencies. Pair that with me being a naturalistic guy, i "deconverted" back to Atheism which i am since then. But this time i had put some serious thinking into my position, unlike when i grew up. Edit: english is my 2nd language.. so i hope you can endure my grammar and possible wrong usage of words

“I have a rational mind” *lightbulb explodes* “Jesus MUST be God”

Many years ago 5 or 6 of us were sitting around in the office library telling each other ghost stories. We were interrupted by a large heavy ring binder on a far shelf, falling flat with a very loud "splat". One person was up and out of the door like a flash. Some of us just laughed. Never for a moment did I think that it was a "real" ghost. People just believe what they want to believe.

Claims to be rational and then proceeds to be 100% irrational😂

They know the AXP isn't what it used to be, reason for all the throwbacks.. I miss these old episodes.

@kidslovesatan34

29 күн бұрын

There's some truth to that.

He admits that instances of any event occurring outside of the specific circumstances of a conversation about the decreased wouldn't even be recorded, so he has basically no data at all. Bro, do you even science?

"I can't explain these things, so therefore I will create an explanation for them" is a sign of extremely poor epistemology.

if I was talking about a deceased friend and lightbulbs blew out, pictures fell off the wall, and my dog wouldn't step paw into the room, I'd absolutely assume ghosts before god

There were a metric ton of reformist/apocalyptic self appointed prophets in the first century. John the Baptist and James the brother of Jesus were just two others that may have been out there

"I'm a rational person." But then carries on with irrational conclusions.

Any time someone starts a statement with "I consider myself very reasonable" you can bet they're about to show just how unreasonable a person they really are.

Eddy has made my brain hurt so bad. Eddy is not alone, as it seems to be epidemic that so many Americans have no concept of what evidence is, how to evaluate it and apply it in the context of logic and reason. This phenomenon is creating so many conflicts and issues in religions, politics and so many other areas in order to achieve a valid understanding of reality. American children have somehow never learned important skills that most the rest of the world seems to have a much better understanding of. Children are lacking any skills of skepticism and epistemology to make decisions, or build belief from and the problem grows with them into their adult lives.

My sister & brother-in-law claim to be former atheists because, during a rough spell in their lives, they briefly lost their faith. They didn't examine their former beliefs, or the Bible. They just temporarily lost faith during tough times. That's not how I became a non-believer. That's why I'm agnostic about these atheist to theist claims.

Dude was flailing

Paul didn’t say he met Jesus’s brother. He said he met “a Brother of Christ”, which meant someone who had been baptised.

If a lightbulb explodes, will it cause someone to say her name?

The written accounts of jesus are 100% debatable, whether inside or outside the bible, and are not in fact hard evidence.

Where in the Bible did Jesus' ghost cause lightbulbs to explode or pictures to fall of the frame?

Overcoming brain washed reasoning is soooo hard.

@thedeerhunter999

11 күн бұрын

With out a doubt…very, very difficult

I don't think Jesus existed. Not as a normal dude, not as a son of god, not as 1/3 god.. or maybe it was just like "The life of Brian".. 😂

Two and a halv minutes in and I’m already feeling the fatigue

I think Eddie has the Smile monster attached to him just like in the movie

Jesus is real: he's my gardener. On his birthday on December 25th, he may skip the leaves 😂😂😂

I'm not saying Midland Texas has a religion problem, but Midland Texas is INSANELY religious. It's the Spinal Tap of "dialing it to 11"

Rational Eddy is working overtime to prove he’s not.

I don't even think that paul was a real person.