Dissecting a V2 rocket steam pot

Ғылым және технология

We continue exploring the A4 / V2 rocket in detail, and in this video, we dissect a real steam generator used to drive the missile's steam-powered turbopumps. The relic was discovered in Germany a few years ago and recovered from a ground excavation in a very rusted condition. We look briefly at some operations to preserve the relic and prepare it as an educational exhibit. Robert looks at the construction, exploring the history and details of its function along the way.
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00:00 Introduction
00:19 Explaining this video
00:55 Recap of Turbopump Part 1
01:59 How the relic was found
02:41 Dissecting the relic
04:51 Removing the head nut
06:08 Exposing the valve
06:58 Exhibit explained
10:05 Main and pilot valves removed
11:38 The hole in the funnel
12:11 Hole in drawings
13:05 The 'Helter Skelter'
14:58 HS 293 rocket engine
17:09 Thermal reactor problems
18:16 Valves disassembled
22:26 How they functioned
29:58 Spot the difference?
30:37 Thanks for watching.
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  • @Aengus42
    @Aengus42Күн бұрын

    11:00 Wow! That stainless sprung valve looks factory fresh! Absolutely stunning!

  • @randysmeltzer6891
    @randysmeltzer68919 ай бұрын

    Many thanks for the effort you have installed into these videos, my technical addictions satisfied manifold with every installment. (Particularly turbo pump part 2, worth the wait). Your attention to detail truly commendable.

  • @BartJBols
    @BartJBols9 ай бұрын

    clicked faster then a turbopump turbine can fling out of its housing.

  • @staffanadelqvist4130
    @staffanadelqvist41309 ай бұрын

    Amazing! another of my favourites! V2 explained.

  • @clavius5734
    @clavius57349 ай бұрын

    Thanks for also showing the preparation of the exhibit, that was very interesting to watch as well.

  • @AbuctingTacos
    @AbuctingTacos9 ай бұрын

    Best series on KZread. I love how packed with information this is

  • @gtkrk9539
    @gtkrk95393 ай бұрын

    Excellent. Those subtle changes of the valve are the essence of engineering... To achieve perfection a myriad of wee adjustments are necessary... Thanks!

  • @c1ph3rpunk
    @c1ph3rpunk9 ай бұрын

    I had no idea I wanted to deeply understand how a V2 worked, but it turns out I do. I remember building a V2 model rocket when I was like 12, had to be like 1981, and loved it.

  • @Things_Green
    @Things_Green9 ай бұрын

    A brilliant series of fascinating lectures. Your passion for the subject matter shines brightly. Thank you.

  • @mohammedalmukhtar5428
    @mohammedalmukhtar54289 ай бұрын

    Fascinating is understatement….one of the most beautiful presentations you can land on KZread!

  • @robertbl22
    @robertbl229 ай бұрын

    Robert's presentation style reminds me of the beloved "Connections" series by James Burke

  • @foobar201
    @foobar2019 ай бұрын

    Awesome presentation! I love that you dive in all the way on the topics that usually get glossed over

  • @sheep1ewe
    @sheep1ewe9 ай бұрын

    A really massive thank You for making those videos!!

  • @BK-uf6qr
    @BK-uf6qr9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for taking us on you’re Journey with you!!! Amazing, fantastic. Best video on KZread.

  • @ntesla66
    @ntesla669 ай бұрын

    A "Turbo-Encabulator" with "Spurving Bearings" lol , just kidding! Thank you so much for continuing this series with such detail!

  • @RocketPlanet

    @RocketPlanet

    9 ай бұрын

    Hi there and thanks for posting. I would have covered the use of prefabulated aluminite but there wasn't the time. KR RJD A&NTV

  • @pythosdegothos6181
    @pythosdegothos61819 ай бұрын

    Another terrific video on this machine that would lead to the moon.

  • @tomstrum6259
    @tomstrum62596 ай бұрын

    Lots of Comprehensive & detailed Info here !! .....Some dry Ice shaft Chiller + Focused torch flame or Spot induction Heat applied to Nut would likely have easily broken Loose the Nut threads.....

  • @isaacplaysbass8568
    @isaacplaysbass85689 ай бұрын

    Fascinating to see how well preserved the valve assembly was.

  • @bobbysenterprises3220
    @bobbysenterprises32209 ай бұрын

    Another great video. I would love someone to see someone make a model of this and film it with inert fuel in slow motion. Or even do a good computer animation of the flow and mixing

  • @itsmyview2024
    @itsmyview20249 ай бұрын

    The rocket mouse pointer is genius

  • @robertbl22
    @robertbl229 ай бұрын

    A cool revelation at 17 minutes!

  • @hxl6162
    @hxl61629 ай бұрын

    Perfect your outline and details as usual

  • @benwinter2420

    @benwinter2420

    9 ай бұрын

    Are you an bot ?

  • @hxl6162

    @hxl6162

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@benwinter2420 No, but I think you are

  • @jimknowlton342
    @jimknowlton3429 ай бұрын

    WOOOOOOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BACK TO BACK LEGENDARY VIDEOS

  • @PabloA64
    @PabloA649 ай бұрын

    Great, amazing description!

  • @hosa-8210
    @hosa-82109 ай бұрын

    Sehr schöne Zeichnung von diesem Dampfmischer, und diese vielen DIN-Normen. Ich liebe solche Sachen. Greetings from Germany.

  • @alexwild4350
    @alexwild43509 ай бұрын

    Fantastic series, love it. Eventually of course, we are going to get to the point where the only thing left to do is to crowd source the funds necessary to re-manufacture all the parts and fly one. Well that's probably ridiculous to suggest we fly one. To fly two or three would be much better.

  • @RocketPlanet

    @RocketPlanet

    9 ай бұрын

    Hi Alex, and thanks for posting. Well, some Canadians have already tried it, over twenty years ago. The ill-fated Canadian Arrow used pressurised tanks rather than turbopumps, but otherwise, they copied the V2 engine pretty faithfully. Though quite why they did something so oddly anachronistic is a different matter. Walter Thiel, Peenemünde's chief combustion expert, declared shortly before he died in 1943 that they would never build a rocket engine like the A4 power plant again and regretted many of the missteps that took them to the necessity of flying the 18-prechamber engine. So quite why the Arrow team thought it was still a good idea just two decades ago escapes me. KR RJD A&NTV

  • @Blindbrick2
    @Blindbrick29 ай бұрын

    4:16 'Asbestos gasket'. We still used that stuff 35 years ago.

  • @ClausB252
    @ClausB2529 ай бұрын

    A Walter H2O2 engine was also developed for U-boats late in WW2 ! Correction: the Walter U-boat engine was developed before 1942, and before the aircraft and rocket engines. Source: Cremer, U-Boat Commander, 1982, English translation, 1984, p. 192. Wikipedia says Walter patented the design already in 1925.

  • @LEGOBubuS
    @LEGOBubuS9 ай бұрын

    Finally.. ❤🎉😊 Well done again!

  • @dingolovethrob
    @dingolovethrob9 ай бұрын

    truly superb analysis

  • @hu5116
    @hu51169 ай бұрын

    Marvelous video as always! So I would like to make three related comments. 1) I think it makes sense that the ball valve would be a pilot valve for starting the reaction at a lower flow rate to heat up the reactor, and prevent an explosive ignition, like can happen in rocket engines on ignition. I also wonder if the ball valve might not be a flow regulator during the burn, because the hydrogen peroxide and permanganate gas pressure must reduce overtime, but you would not necessarily want to reduce steam production to the turbines until you are ready to shut off the engine. The flow rate might have been kept up even with lower gas pressure by the opening of the ball valve. 2) since you have a pristine working model of the valve complex, and you also have the drawings, you should be able to measure the spring constant of the springs and then model the entire valve assembly in a suitable hydraulic simulator, which of course the Germans would’ve died for a 1940, but we have those today. 3) taking that one step further, since you do have a pristine valve assembly, why not just test it with high pressure water and suitable instrumentation and just see what it does? That would resolve the debate pretty much once, and for all I should think. Thanks for all you do!

  • @andrzejkawa5491
    @andrzejkawa54919 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much

  • @jtveg
    @jtveg9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻

  • @nwekuy
    @nwekuy8 ай бұрын

    very interesting! about the 8 ton and 25 ton valves, how i interpret the physics; the 8 ton valve opens before the 25 ton valve, at somewhat lower pressure, and also the reaction of H2O2 with the permanganate in the cup near the splash plate, invigorates the turbulence and reactivity of the permanganate, improving mixing and reaction with the H2O2 of the 25 ton valve, and reaction in the rest steam chamber. a kind of two stage reactor, of which the "first stage" is fed by the 8 ton injector. the kegel valve does the same thing as the ball valve in the 8 ton valve. less good probably (or some reason they changed it).

  • @n6mz
    @n6mz9 ай бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @OYEUAV
    @OYEUAV9 ай бұрын

    Good work my teacher

  • @cf9870
    @cf98709 ай бұрын

    Is there somewhere I can purchase the 3d printable files for the V2 engine and rocket that you use? Love the content and thanks for making these!

  • @Pamudder
    @Pamudder9 ай бұрын

    The technology behind these parts is fascinating-- I have always found the turbopumps to be the most interesting parts of a rocket, and I am also an old steam hand-- but, of course, the history behind the A4/V2 includes tens of thousands of slave laborers worked to death at Dora Mittelbau and elsewhere. Were these sub-assemblies built by slave labor?

  • @mdesm2005
    @mdesm20059 ай бұрын

    if it's OK to paint it, maybe it's also ok to putty fill the rusted out dimples, for a smoother finish?

  • @hplucio134sp9
    @hplucio134sp99 ай бұрын

    Your engineering history channel is great, I ask you to please include subtitles, thanks

  • @mikus4242
    @mikus42429 ай бұрын

    Fascinating!

  • @mcr1redpearl
    @mcr1redpearl9 ай бұрын

    excellent - as usual.

  • @hansmeevissculptures8234
    @hansmeevissculptures82349 ай бұрын

    Total slave to your excellent videos.

  • @sheep1ewe

    @sheep1ewe

    9 ай бұрын

    And so am I...

  • @BerndUlmann
    @BerndUlmann9 ай бұрын

    Wonderful!

  • @typxxilps
    @typxxilps9 ай бұрын

    this is part 3 of the Turboprop series called beyond the Turboprop: the steam pot

  • @wernhervonbraun3985
    @wernhervonbraun3985Ай бұрын

    Perfect !

  • @androidemulator6952
    @androidemulator69529 ай бұрын

    I love this "Touching Actual History" - part of an actual V2 rocket - maybe have been launched and crashed- exquisite !! - thank you ! . Pit me on the mailing list for any "spare" V2 parts ;)

  • @midi5581
    @midi55819 ай бұрын

    Great video, just one small comment: Permanganate is an oxidizer here and hydrogen peroxide is being oxidized and not reduced.

  • @ENKI7477
    @ENKI74777 ай бұрын

    Continue your channel

  • @Sgtklark
    @Sgtklark9 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @RocketPlanet

    @RocketPlanet

    9 ай бұрын

    Hello Dennis, and any thanks for supporting my work - I appreciate your contribution. Every donation like this allows me to go on producing high-quality content on a subject that I'm passionate about, and there is a lot more to say. Best wishes Robert J Dalby

  • @TrapperAaron
    @TrapperAaron9 ай бұрын

    I would be interested to know if the sub valve ball was lapped against its sealing surface. Also was there any specialized heat treating done on the ball valves and seats?

  • @Bystroushaak
    @Bystroushaak9 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @RocketPlanet

    @RocketPlanet

    9 ай бұрын

    Hello. Many thanks for supporting my work - I appreciate your contribution. Every donation like this allows me to go on producing high-quality content on a subject that I'm passionate about, and there is a lot more to say. Best wishes Robert J Dalby

  • @6803U4
    @6803U49 ай бұрын

    If the h2o2 is pumped into the main valve at around 450psi and the reaction is creating steam at around 400psi, then the valve is going to be forced closed due to the spring pressure and valve surface area ratios etc. The smaller pilot valve could be a way of keeping the reaction stable by constantly allowing h2o2 to flow rather than having an oscillation of the main valve as it bounces open and closed causing the steam to pulse?

  • @RocketPlanet

    @RocketPlanet

    9 ай бұрын

    Hi there, and thanks for a good observation. Even if the psi pressure on both sides of the valve was more or less equal, the force (not the same as pressure) acting on the narrow aperture of the valve is lower than the force of the propellent entering the reactor chamber (pot) through the valve. And the chamber is not sealed, it vents directly to the atmos, so there will be a pressure drop along the mass flow as well. But I think there might have been vasilation in the pilot valve as you suggest. KR RJD A&NTV

  • @antnew176

    @antnew176

    9 ай бұрын

    @@RocketPlanet Not sure if you covered this (but I couldn't find it): how is the h2o2 pressurised? Is that thanks to the nitrogen tanks?

  • @benwinter2420
    @benwinter24209 ай бұрын

    The OG bottle rocket

  • @atvheads
    @atvheads9 ай бұрын

    Heat is an option to remove rusty old threads.

  • @wktodd
    @wktodd9 ай бұрын

    Given the change from machined cone to ball, I suspect the sub valve's initial purpose was found to be unnecessary , so simplified to just heating the chamber. To me, it's utility is to relieve the pressure in the pipe post 8/20ton valves (handy while testing)

  • @RocketPlanet

    @RocketPlanet

    9 ай бұрын

    Hi Bill, and thanks for posting. Yes, I think you may be right, and there was just enough in favour of the pilot valve rather than against it. I noticed how weak the spring was in the specimen examined, and it surprised me rather. I think the ball position would have fluctuated due to engine vibration - but presumably, by then, it didn't matter. KR RJD A&NTV

  • @wktodd

    @wktodd

    9 ай бұрын

    ​​@@RocketPlanetI have seen references to an astronomy and nature centre, is that still going? Would like to see the V2 exhibition

  • @mauricepanero
    @mauricepanero9 ай бұрын

    So how did they pump the catalyst ? It can't have been in powder form as I've always have thought.

  • @sheep1ewe

    @sheep1ewe

    9 ай бұрын

    I am not sure, but until someone who can confirm this writes here, this is what i found about sodium permanganate "Being about 15 times more soluble than KMnO4, sodium permanganate finds some applications where very high concentrations of MnO4− are sought."

  • @sheep1ewe

    @sheep1ewe

    9 ай бұрын

    Since the alcohol component in the main fuel system allredy where dissolved in water i don't think water would interfer with any other part of the engines reaction, and by using sodium permanganate instead of potassium permanganate they could still manage to keep the concentration very high. Just my 5 cents...

  • @manifold1476

    @manifold1476

    9 ай бұрын

    pay attention

  • @RocketPlanet

    @RocketPlanet

    9 ай бұрын

    Hi Maurice, and thanks for posting. The sodium permanganate was introduced into the reactor pot as a 27% viscous solution (kept warm before tanking in cold weather). It was pumped from the 11 litre storage tank and into the reactor pot by air pressure at about 400psi (30atm). A contact valve was used to ensure the permanganate arrived in the reactor pot before the high-strength (82%) hydrogen peroxide. Other permanganate reactants were also used (eg calcium) but NaMno4 was the norm. KR RJD

  • @striderkram
    @striderkram9 ай бұрын

    I don't think the lower spring support was fastened to anything. There was no need to fasten it. I work in a valve repair shop and I've seen the effects of a relief valve spindle that had repeatedly, at high frequency and force, pounded against its guide due to valve chatter and the metal on the surface of the relief valve guide looks exactly like the part in the steam pot valve. Kind of fractured looking.

  • @ljubomirculibrk4097
    @ljubomirculibrk40979 ай бұрын

    Most of the problems come from fast changes of pressure. Subvalve is there to even out hydraulic shock to the system. Aka water hamer which can destroy welds or even burst piping in this case it can lead to bad combustion in rocket engine chamber. Cold start or fluded chamber whit later ignition of accumulated fuel oxidiser mix is not recomended. Booom...

  • @ntesla66

    @ntesla66

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree with you completely.

  • @Ro-zn6um
    @Ro-zn6um9 ай бұрын

    I really love these video's. But seeing you force open that flanged connection in the beginning made me worried. Asbestos gaskets could have been used there. Please be careful, you guys.

  • @vernepavreal7296
    @vernepavreal72969 ай бұрын

    loved the engineering detail The waste of human effort engineering etc on weapons and indeed single use launch vehicles generally appalls me hence my adoration of reusable orbital rockets if not the recent politics of the instigator

  • @wktodd
    @wktodd9 ай бұрын

    Interesting video found by accident (KZread no longer recommending if history is off).

  • @otm646
    @otm6469 ай бұрын

    Is there a reason you're sandblasting and not using electrolysis here? You'd preserve all of the base metal and be left with a perfectly rust free surface.

  • @RocketPlanet

    @RocketPlanet

    9 ай бұрын

    Hi there, yes, I've used electrolytic rust removal. It works as well as acid, which I've used extensively on stage one rust. Stage one is the surface rust we see on items only exposed to air for a decade or so. When late stage two rusting and decay, sets in on things that have been exposed to the elements or have been in the ground for eighty years, electrolysis can do little to restore the original surface because it simply doesn't exist anymore. I've only ever used a professional electrolysis service offered by a powder coater, so I have no DIY experience. But I have a sand-blasting cabinet and use this largley "because it's there" and is low-cost. I favour it because you can use materials other than grit and get a fine, almost polished surface on some items. Thanks for posting. KR RJD A&NTV

  • @martin09091989
    @martin090919899 ай бұрын

    That "fiberglass" is asbestos! 😅

  • @BurnleyNuts
    @BurnleyNuts9 ай бұрын

    Miles better than BBC1

  • @mdesm2005
    @mdesm20059 ай бұрын

    you translated muffler but not aluminium

  • @kainhall
    @kainhall9 ай бұрын

    18:04 thats really interesting.... definitely going to have to watch part 1 and 2 now lol . pretty modern design really..... after all the Saturn 5 was designed by an old nazi lol

  • @multiengineering8982
    @multiengineering89828 ай бұрын

    Rocket. Goddard. Skeletion. Rocket explain each. Prts. Name. Sir. I want. To get. More. I formation. Sirr

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