This is an amazingly awesome video! A really good example of why the weight and power of a truck really matter when towing.

@Ted_Stryker

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Big fan of your channel too, btw.

@atokarchik

2 жыл бұрын

Not so sure I agree. Sure the 2500 handled the trailer better than the F150, but they didn't even have a weight distributing hitch let alone an anti-sway system. I think for the average guy, the smaller truck is the better fit. If hauling all the time, then the HD diesel would be the way to go.

@TheRamGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@atokarchik big truck and big RV are spot on. I have a TT that I have towed with a half ton, 3/4 ton gas and now a 1 ton diesel. There is absolutely no way I would ever tow and enclosed trailer with a half ton ever again.

@TheRamGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Love your channel Big Truck Big RV

@slmjake

2 жыл бұрын

Is this your trailer sir?

Glad to see mr truck again I wish he was on full time with tfl

@TheRamGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Me to. Love Mr Truck. I think him and Andre should have their own TFL channel

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRamGuy Thanks folks

@Chris-ut6eq

Жыл бұрын

I think Mr Truck is full time on his Mr Truck channel, but sadly....no Andre there.

How about doing a gas 2500 vs a diesel 2500?

@LeakyJoosbox

2 жыл бұрын

Diesel will win every day of the week. Much more torque, but takes less rpm to make it. They are super efficient which is why anything that moves a bunch of weight uses them. The hd gas trucks are probably going to be around 8-10 mpg with that same trailer. They are just gas guzzlers in general, but especially with a trailer. With my experience towing a 30 foot 5th wheel the lowest ive seen the mpg get through the mountains and stuff was around 12.5(granted this is what the truck says no hand calculated). Unloaded the same truck gets 14 in the city and hit 19 on the highway. The gas trucks just can't do that. It's all about price. Gas trucks are cheaper to get and maintain, but the downsides are pretty big

@erikkovacs3097

2 жыл бұрын

@@LeakyJoosbox Since maintenance and purchase price aren't the greatest cost of ownership when towing the fuel savings offsets the extra cost.

@HVTMuddvain

2 жыл бұрын

@@erikkovacs3097 that all depends on what your towing and how often imho and what kinda comfort level you want in general theres pros and cons to both but if you simple question is which one pulls better duh 2500 Diesel always wins

@erikkovacs3097

2 жыл бұрын

@@HVTMuddvain Leaving 3/4 tons aside if this test were between 2 1/2 tons (1 diesel, 1 gas) the difference would have been even larger. My point is that the higher upfront cost, higher fuel cost per gallon and higher maintenance costs are dwarfed by the fuel savings when towing. That is why all professionals making money towing all drive diesels (ok maybe some CNG but that's rare).

@paulf1177

2 жыл бұрын

I'm starting my homework on this subject. I'm not a tech person, don't know what hp vs ft/lb torque means. I do know numbers like the ones calculated in this video vs the ones each truck displayed. As much as I like the idea of a diesel and what it can do for pulling a camper. I don't know how long it would take to recover the extra $10k cost (and maintenance) when a gas engine could pull the same camper. Waiting for the TFL gas/ diesel 2500 challenge. Equal trim levels too. That might tip me over to that Cummins

Would LOVE to see this gas mileage comparison with all the half-ton diesel trucks on the market - Ram 3.0L EcoDiesel - GM 3.0L Duramax (GMC or Chevy) - Ford 3.0L Powerstroke

@EricFortuneJr.

2 жыл бұрын

Ford discontinued their 3.0 diesel last year. It was replaced by the power boost.

@redracerproductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@EricFortuneJr. , yep, no more Ford small diesel in the US at least. GM announced a new version of their 3.0 for 2023, I wonder what improvements it will get? Most reviewers seem to love the GM engine.

@poonbandit9924

2 жыл бұрын

The GM is buttery smooth, great mpg and tows well. We have one at work as the shop truck. Only annoying thing is that if you ever have to do timing or pull the timing cover for a leak it’s set up like a semi with the timing in the rear.

Would love to see comparison include the GM 1500 3.0L Diesel.

@bigbeef8935

2 жыл бұрын

have to find one that’s not back at the dealership for recalls. POS

@AnontheGOAT

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigbeef8935 lol what a dumb statement. Currently no open recalls on LM2 equipped GM trucks.

Love these real world comparisons. It'd be very interesting to see a comparison of the performance of gas vs diesel with equivalently heavy trucks.

@dkaternoga

2 жыл бұрын

Or this 2500 vs f-250 tremor 7.3 Godzilla engine

I'd assume the biggest difference is rather Heavy Duty truck vs. Light duty pickup than diesel vs. gas.

Great video. Glad to see Mr Truck back on TFL. You two make a great team. Love y’all’s videos.

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I love these videos as they are REAL WORLD tests and very informative on the critical aspects of each vehicle. One idea I have is perhaps an overlanding setup. I know it's easier to just hitch up a trailer but having a camper setup on these trucks would help as well for those considering overlanding as I am for a possible huge part of abusiness venture.

It would be interesting to see how a 1500 truck diesel like the Silverado 3.0 duramax would compare against the Ram 2500 diesel

@reggiemurphy7028

2 жыл бұрын

yes

@bigbeef8935

2 жыл бұрын

There is no comparison. That’s like comparing a hellcat to a challenger base model

@adriansienko3619

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigbeef8935 the 3.0 duramax could probably get better mileage than the 6.7 Cummins towing

@carryfreak5059

2 жыл бұрын

Ram rules again

@bheron01

2 жыл бұрын

It all depends on your specific needs. If you only tow light loads occasionally and use your truck as a daily driver it would be ridiculous to get a rough riding hd. If you tow heavy loads most of the time than get the 2500.

I like the video I learned a lot from the video. But what if you guys did the same video with the Ford F250 with Godzilla engine, because some of us viewers aren’t too thrilled about the extra cost of the diesel so is there a way of trying the same comparison with the Ford XLT Godzilla engine?

Love the way you do your comparisons, real world-real result. 👍

Thanks so much for this video great work

I recently purchased a 2021 2500HD Duramax, coming from a 2011 F150 5.0 V8, towing only a 25' 6000lb gvwr travel trailer, and it is a huge difference in towing and mileage. I was white knuckling driving the F150, compared to a mostly relaxing tow with the Duramax. But I live where its constant 30-40mph winds with 50mph gusts.

@techs1smh13

2 жыл бұрын

The wind can kill mileage and make you hang on both hand and feet. 😂

@TheRamGuy

2 жыл бұрын

So true. I used to tow an 8500lb TT with a half ton and would never do it again

@philipparana9225

2 жыл бұрын

Just get a weight distribution hitch

@TheRamGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@philipparana9225 haha. If only it were that simple. I had an Eqalizer WD hitch that cost about $900 and the winds in northern Michigan would put me in the shoulder sometimes or I had to pull the trailer brakes. 3/4 ton that doesn’t happen

@outfitr9703

2 жыл бұрын

I hate the wind. My enclosed toy trailer is about 5000 lbs loaded and I tow it with a 2011 Ram 1500. I do have a sway control bar but I feel like I'm maxed out and wouldn't want to tow a pound heavier, don't care what it's rated for.

Love it when these guys get together for a video. Awesome!!

Great review- we always enjoy watching you 2 together 🍻

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

thanks

Once you get past that you can't afford either, this was an informative video.

@texandy89

2 жыл бұрын

Everything is expensive which is ridiculous and unfortunate

@OutlawFarmersRC

2 жыл бұрын

I can afford it.

@buzzpedrotti5401

2 жыл бұрын

@@texandy89 Yep. Once a vehicle is too far out of reach, ya lose interest.

@kenjcm

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, for real, truck prices have become insane. But I'm happy with my Ford Maverick. Small truck, good gas mileage, and pretty affordable when compared to the alternatives. $26k with all of the options I picked for it.

@kenjcm

2 жыл бұрын

@@OutlawFarmersRC Congrats bro. 👏👏

Good stuff! Would’ve been interesting to see the unloaded fill-up coasts for the same trucks on the same day & route. Might be able to nail down the crossover point where someone could grade the expense based on the percentage of time spent towing.

@LeonSteelpaw

2 жыл бұрын

I would agree, if prices were not going bonkers at the moment

@JonBecker81

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the F150 would be a good bit cheaper I think.

Great video! Thank you!

Andre your the best thank you for being in TFL

MR.TRUCK! I know you've got your own channel.. But man the chemistry is great.

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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Excellent video. You showed how the extra stability of a 3/4 ton makes towing much easier despite the trailer being well within the manufacturer's rating for the F150. Proves that just because you can, it does not mean you should! Good to see Kent on the channel too!

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Kent

@daltontallman8721

2 жыл бұрын

Seen a great comment once.. "whatever your towing capacity is on your vehicle, CUT IT IN HALF and that will give you the safest tow"

Thank you. I really enjoy these comparisons. Keep them coming. Have you ever done a direct Ike Gauntlet towing comparison of the regular Cummins versus the H/O Cummins? I'd like to see that. The smaller RV's are being offered with the 3.5 L Ecoboost V6 (Godzilla or diesels in the bigger RV's). Generally, the customer has no choice. Is the 3.5 L Ecoboost a smart engine choice or should the RV manufacturers be offering something different? I am suggesting a definitive test like you do.

@TheRamGuy

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea. As someone with a HO Cummins SRW truck I would like to see that. I suspect less than 15000lbs the SO Cummins may do better and the HO above that

Great to see Mr. Truck back on TFL !

You guys need a long term GM 3.0. Everyone wants to see its capabilities and efficiency.

Great comparison for anyone looking into the smaller trucks. Impressive numbers for a 1/2T. I’ll probably always have my 1T diesels, but it’s cool seeing how far these 1/2T trucks have come.

@boduke9428

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I've owned at least one 3/4 or 1 ton truck since 1996. My first was a F350 with a 460 and 5 speed. Next was a 1995 Powerstroke 5 speed and I've had multiples of every Powerstroke made since with a couple 12 valves and 24 valve mixed in. The 3.5 EcoBoost pulls stronger than some of those trucks. Personally it feels plenty stable up to 10,000 lbs. Anything over that and I grab the Superduty keys.

@r.holdaway5839

2 жыл бұрын

@@boduke9428 that’s awesome!! Good info!! I’ve never driven the EcoBoost trucks. I hear great things about them!

Always great to see Mr Truck along for the ride

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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Andre and Mr Truck are the best of TFL

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

It is always good to have Mr. Truck in the videos!!

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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You guys should get a spectral analyzer app for your sound tests. It won't capture dB as accurately, but it will show where the noises are in the spectrum. That gives you a better idea of quality of sound in addition to quantity.

Great comparison, hope to see Mr. Truck on TFL more!

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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Great episode. You need to do the same comparison on the IKE. A lot of us over or under buy a truck for one reason or another. Lost of diesel owners buy too much truck for their needs where a lot of 1/2 ton owners push their limits. It is nice to see some runs not a t full capacity but at what most of us use our vehicles for.

There are no 2 better dudes talking towing than Andre and Mr Truck 👍

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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Here in Scotland, UK, the towing speed limit is 60mph for ANY vehicle type. Also that's only on a "dual carriageway ", ie a road with two or more lanes in each direction, with a median divide in between. On a two way road that reduces to 50 mph for all vehicles. That's whether you're a 'big rig' or Mini with a tent camper!

Another great video guys. Do you have recent videos with a diesel that shows the fuel mileage loaded and unloaded? Thanks guys.

Awesome content

Tanks of fresh, gray and black water will stack on some weight. Also propane too.

@benlzicar7628

2 жыл бұрын

2x 20lb propane tanks only weigh about 30lbs, but yea wetting a trailer down of that size could easily add another 500lbs, throw in all the other shit you take camping and you're looking at 1,000-1,500 lbs on top of the trailer weight.

Good to see Mr Truck and Andre together. Also very happy to see you guys mentioning the size and type of trailer you are towing is far more important than just the weight. Half Ton trucks are just not heavy enough and built to tow big campers and enclosed trailers at higher speeds. You can get by with it if you’re only towing local or less than Interstate speeds but there’s no comparison to an HD.

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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The 2000 lb weight difference of the heavy duty makes towing so much better..

@jnk26

2 жыл бұрын

You need control to lead the trailer. The front axle of that Ram weighs almost as much as the entire F150

@freedomisntfree_44

2 жыл бұрын

@@jnk26 🤣 and yet it’ll tow as much as the ram and payload isnt far off either

@jnk26

2 жыл бұрын

@@freedomisntfree_44the lacking g point of that ram is the JUNK 68rfe, and the soft payload. 5k on the front axle vs 5k split between front an rear, is a huge difference. My 8500lb fifthwheel rv has been pulled by four different trucks(1999 F250 Powerstroke SCLB, 2016 3.5EB CCSB, 2019 F350 6.7L CCLB, 2020 F350 6.7L CCSB) the new diesels have no comparison, and the 3.5EB was faster off the line than the old 7.3, its a much better towing truck even being 125hp short(500lbft@1600 is better than 420lbft@2800). Front axle leads the truck , rear axle leads the trailer. More vehicle is better when hauling a heavy trailer. The payloads are close only because the ram is an 7800lb truck riding on a 10k GVWR. My 2020 is a 8300lb truck riding on a 12.4k GVWR. Axles are 6000f and 7350r(13350 combined) where it's 3800f and 3800r on most F150s(3850f, 4800r w/HDPP)

I’m at 11:48 on the video. Do you guys compare both vehicles doing the same loop, empty? W/O a trailer?? That’s some good info too.

I would like to see a comparison of all your trucks and what it cost to drive them for the year. Cost of fuel, conditions used, daily driving and towing. To get a real world idea of what might be best long haul. What's best for towing, best for daily, and fun factor!

I wonder how long Andre will keep his powerboost? I'm getting a xl when ever prices to decide to level out.

I have a 2019 f150, reg cab 8' bed 4x4 2.7 ecoboost, and when I tow my 27' triple axle gooseneck flatbed, I can definitely feel the trailer behind me slowing down but the torque of the little ecoboost is so much more noticeable than my dad's v10 f250.

Do a head to head Ram Cummins engine test, The cab & chassis engine vs the standard, and finally the H.O. mated to the Aisin trans..

I would love to see an offshoot channel with just Andre and Mr.Truck. Dedicated to all manner of trucks, trailers towing and even farm equipment. That would be great and they are an awesome duo

@bldontmatter5319

2 жыл бұрын

Mr. Truck is so biased though. He clearly favors some stuff even if it's utter crap

@TheRamGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@bldontmatter5319 what does he favor that is total crap?

Would love to see big Cummings vs duramax 3.0

@AnontheGOAT

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Bet it would be the same.

I don't tow much but still love my 2016 Laramie Mega Cab Cummins 4x4 SAP!! Ordered it new and still only has 28k miles on it.

Anyone besides me notice that they didn’t have the safety cotter pin on the hitch pin? Great video.

@perpelle

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, saw that to when towing with the ram. DANGEROUS.

@AS-uj6ct

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that and then checked the comments to see if anyone else saw that as well.

Easy conclusion. If you drive 90% of your time hauling heavy trailers on log distances - get the HD diesel If you drive 90% of your time from here to there mostly city and rarely with a trailer - get the electric truck (rent a diesel truck for when you need long distance towing needs)

Mr truck does such a good job for TFL.

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Mr Truck! Great video. Also interesting 8.2 woulda been spot on withou your top off.... 🤔

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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Great video! So if I recall correctly, the new Toyota Tundra performed about 1-1.5 mpg better than the Ford powerboost.

Great video. Although some may argue it's cheaper to tow with a diesel but the cost of owning a diesel is considerably higher then the half ton. To buy a diesel to tow only a camper or boat on weekends would not make any sense .

@natei3518

2 жыл бұрын

You make a good point. But if you are financially able to make that purchase, the diesel truck will also hold its value longer, especially given a higher mileage on the truck.

Excellent comparison guys. Even with the difference in price per gallon, there was quite a difference in the total cost. You should come up to Eastern Canada right now, we are currently paying $2.59 per liter or $9.80 per US Gallon. So it's making it hard on everyone! Great video, stay safe.

@homeguy4

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, Here in Western Canada... Alberta, we pay $1.70 a liter for diesel.

@dor1tomcswagger69

2 жыл бұрын

@@homeguy4 wow lucky you Toronto it's at 2.20-2.40 for diesel 2.05-2.10 for gas

@homeguy4

2 жыл бұрын

@@dor1tomcswagger69 You have to thank the idiot in Ottawa adding the carbon tax.

You really want to avoid the tail wagging the dog scenario when towing a heavy pig trailer

@ALMX5DP

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah wonder if a WD setup is compatible with that hitch arrangement. Would make it much more stable, especially for the lighter Ford.

I have an older ram, 1500 5.7l Hemi. I tow a 2.6 metric tonne trailer at around 11.5 mpg. Thought that was pretty good, as I drive it without trailer at around 15 mpg.

Wish I could bring my tuck on the show, one of a kind 2011 ecoboost f150 ecoboost the 22nd to be exact manufactured on Jan 10th that is an 8,000 lbs big boy with a ten speed and towing rear air suspension with a humongous 13"x3-½" quarter inch thick frame and lots of other cool rare features, basically built entirely around towing and has a helluva story behind it

Would like to see Andre’s truck vs Sierra 1500 diesel.

Now we need to see an HD gasser vs a half ton. Does a bigger gas v8 get better mileage towing that trailer.. btw, that’s a proper load for half ton towing to really work them, not the flat beds with whatever loaded onto them. The wind resistance along with the weight is a great test.

What about towing with the hybrid something lighter, like a SeaDoo? How is MPG affected then?

another advantage of the Hybrid is that can share electricity with the trailer in off-grid situations

@jerrygundrum1

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, but it really is marginally safe to tow with as it is either at over max payload or real close

I’d be interested to see if a reduction in travel speed (e.g. drop to 60mph cruising) would affect mileage much?

My 2020 F250 HCTTP(10800lb GVWR) is 8100lbs curb gets, 24-26mpg empty can tow 21,900(30,000lbs GCWR) Has a 2900lb payload(door sticker) 3" reciever (22k rated on SRW) its basically a lighter GVWR F350. 6320lb rear axle rating. Same axle and springs as the F350 with he 7350lb. I towed my 8500lbs fifthweel from Southern Ontario to PEI and back last summer and averaged 17.2L/100k(13.67mpg) for the 3700km(2300 mile) trip. My trailer is 8ft wide and 12-6" high. The 10 speed makes a world of difference, especially because of the smaller steps, and extra torque(1050lbft@1600) the highrst BMEP is around 1700rpm, that's where the engine is most efficient(most torque at the slowest rpm) that's why diesels are better on fuel,

Can you do the same vid but have the lightning vs the F-150, of a similar price, would be amazing to know the difference in the experience of that instant torque and stuff

It’s good too see MR. Truck again

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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Always a good time with mr. truck

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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I hope there is at least a grade 8 bolt running through that upside down draw bar contraption.

The hybrid Tundras are out now, please do a mpg loop with it.

@trumptookthevaccine1679

2 жыл бұрын

The turbos will explode

Question, did you have the max tow package on the standard F150 and did you factor in the DEF cost $6 per gallon (avg) per 50 gallons of fuel? In the fill up it would have consumed $0.72 of DEF, so cost difference is about $4.09- still good but just sharing.

How about doing a camper tow test vs the Silverado/Sierra w/the 3L Duramax?

Wonder if it would be different on regular fuel instead of premium

Is the Trailer Hitch Pin missing the Clip? Watch from 12:15 to 12:22. Or am I missing something?

Great test ! I will take a nice stable and firm ride anyday.

Question. Same trailer. Same course. What would an F150 3.5 ecoboost with tow package do one that test? Mine is also an XLT package. 2020. Why I am asking. I am thinking about getting an small toy hauler. Thanks.

Great video guys! BTBRV is on the chat and Mr.Truck is like a guest visit by Superman! I need to send all of you Top Gun 2 movie tickets lol! Maybe we can have Andre push Tim off the bike and race the electric F150 along the tarmac as the F18 takes off!!! Lol

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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What is the towing difference with the Ram 1500 diesel

Can you guys please do one with 22 cx5 NA and the new cx50.

Wow I just filled up my BMW 328d (Diesel) Friday 5/13/22 for $5.599/gallon in Honolulu. How is Colorado more expensive?

I’m glad to see you both y’all back together that’s what we get more shows like this I’ll take the ram diesel. Y’all need to try the Chevrolet straight six diesel against the ram diesel

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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I noticed that both trucks swaying with the trailer

@zmanvideo1

2 жыл бұрын

because they have no weight distribution system, very irresponsible and dangerous of them

I tow a bass boat. Would love to see numbers for trucks with that type of load

The F-150 seems to do better on mpg when locking out 9th and 10th gear with the manual down shift button. Seems to use less boost.

@alkalk8938

2 жыл бұрын

That's the way I do it with my 18eb towing a 28ft 5th wheel. Most conditions I use 8th, headwind I stick with 7th. It will pull in the higher gears but fuel mileage doesn't go up so I donr lug the engine.

@JonBecker81

2 жыл бұрын

@@alkalk8938 you tow a 5th wheel with a f150? Don’t see that everyday.

@grumpyengg5978

2 жыл бұрын

That makes a lot of sense (locking out the upper gear or two). Boosted gasoline engines generally need to run a little richer as the boost levels increase to control cylinder temp/reduce pre-detonation. In the lower gears there is more mechanical advantage available to the engine so it doesn’t need to do as much ‘work’ on each stroke ie: elevated boost level. Moral of the story…minimize boost level to maximize efficiency.

@JonBecker81

2 жыл бұрын

@@grumpyengg5978 you can have eco and you can have boost but you can’t have eco AND boost.

Why Premium in the Ford vs recommended regular ? Is that not making the cost per mile more ?

My favorite duo mr truck and andre

@MrTruckTV

2 жыл бұрын

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And what does that 2500 get unladen? I'm guessing 15ish? Also, how many times are people hauling camping trailers per year but driving the truck around unladen or even a daily driver?

As someone who tows three or four times per year, diesel just doesn't make sense. It's crazy to pay all that extra cost up front and then be stuck with a giant lumbering truck for the rest of the year. Not to mention the fact that the hybrid is recovering energy when braking all that weight. TFL always talks about the value of engine braking while towing. With a hybrid you would want to be braking to maintain speed on down hill sections so you could harvest that energy. Another benefit of the hybrid would be the built in generator when boon docking. You could plug your trailer into the truck and run anything you want with much less noise than a conventional generator.

@daniel-ino

2 жыл бұрын

but you should compare it to a 3 litre diesel. Not the HD

Keep making those vids so you can use your truck as a Tax right off Andre. 😂😂😂👍👍 Seriously that hybrid is a nice truck. When are you going to upgrade the rubber on it? It'd seriously look bad ass with some slightly bigger rubber and some All-weathers.

I am very surprised by the F-150 hybrid MPG towing. I have a 2012 F-150 with a 3.5l ecoboost with a similar weight trailer and average ~10mpg towing at 65-70 (primarily from NM to CO with lots of steep grades). I would like to see the same comparison with a regular ecoboost compared with the 1/2 ton Duramax.

@AnontheGOAT

2 жыл бұрын

The 1/2 dmax would probably hit 15mpg.

I pull an 8K pound TT with a 2001 GMC 5.3L in the Rocky Mountains. Looking to upgrade to a gasser because I only tow 2-3 times a year. I would love to see a comparison of a 2018 3.5L F150 Ecoboost Max Tow vs a 2018 GMC 6.0L HD 2500 towing up the Ike.

Run it again and not have the f-150 in tow haul mode. I am curious if the mpg goes up because it runs on battery some of the time

It's swaying because the hitch height has the nose down slightly putting more weight on the front trailer axle than on the rear. It's the same as being tail heavy.

Cool trailer! But I prefer U.S. manufacturing every day of the week. No yeti stuff in my garage.

The weight and braking capability of the trucks is the biggest difference. However, like Mr. Truck said, a proper receiver would really help.

One other thing to consider in the price difference of the vehicles is the resale value after say 150 or 200 thousand miles. I think that you will recoup a good portion of the difference in price between the two vehicles.

That's the same mileage my dually gets hauling a single slide truck camper and a car trailer with car. Only difference is I run about 65 tops. The real point I see here is just because fuel is cheaper. Doesn't mean you are saving money. I'd like to see you run the same test with a 1500 ecodiesel.

@ALMX5DP

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right, I borrowed a 6.7 dually to pick up a car out of state. Unloaded with open deck trailer (w/ front air deflector) I got 15.5mpg, and on the return trip with the car I saw 15mpg even. The truck camper likely accounts for that difference.

@fredv7487

2 жыл бұрын

@@ALMX5DP That for sure. Nothing like pushing a 4x8 sheet of plywood through the wind.

Do the tires and rear equipment on the camper look like it’s smiling

Unless it’s changed in the last few years Oregon was 65 mph when I lived there (1995-2009).

With the 1/2 ton pickup and tall trailer suspension with that hitch will exaggerate operator skill…The 3/4 ton diesel and all the heavier running gear can not compare. The price of diesel is crazy since it’s a by product of gas refining, remember when it was dumped on roads?… Thank you for sharing your research.

I have the 2021 RAM 2500 Hemi V8. Bighorn with nightout package. Almost identical trucks other than hemi vs cummins and 8speed transmission vs 6speed. LOL bring your truck to Utah and I'll let you borrow mine to compare gas to diesel with exact same truck but different powertrain.

grab a ram 1500 with the deisel to compare with the f150...