Did the Bruins overpay for Elias Lindholm and Nikita Zadorov?

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    2 күн бұрын

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  • @bostonfan719
    @bostonfan7193 күн бұрын

    If lindholm can win face offs and feed pasta then it’s a win

  • @richardtibbettsiii485

    @richardtibbettsiii485

    3 күн бұрын

    52% wins for 8 out of the 11 years he's been in the league. He's been more than 54% for 6 of those 11. EXCELLENT faceoff guy

  • @johnwillimott8122

    @johnwillimott8122

    3 күн бұрын

    B I N G O !

  • @stevenmorrison5864

    @stevenmorrison5864

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@richardtibbettsiii485I argree with you

  • @coreysghostglowmask8650

    @coreysghostglowmask8650

    2 күн бұрын

    Exactly whats gonna happen👍🏻

  • @Dyljm
    @Dyljm3 күн бұрын

    Zadorov just replaces grzelcyk. Great signing

  • @birdo623
    @birdo6233 күн бұрын

    You knew these 2 clowns would have an issue

  • @CaptainRandus
    @CaptainRandus3 күн бұрын

    Lindholm is a great signing. his points will skyrocket when surrounded by great playmakers.

  • @seangoodwin3046

    @seangoodwin3046

    3 күн бұрын

    When he had guys around him he had 82 points.

  • @peterm4486
    @peterm44863 күн бұрын

    Lindholm looks like he’s so happy to be here…I’m not so sure that would have been the spirit of Stamkos

  • @brianshaughnessy4020

    @brianshaughnessy4020

    3 күн бұрын

    I agree. Stamkos will have a sharp decline in points without Kucherov setting him up. He's a power-play specialist at this point in his career.

  • @stevenmorrison5864

    @stevenmorrison5864

    2 сағат бұрын

    ​@brianshaughnessy4020 I argree with you

  • @SomeOne-uy4kj
    @SomeOne-uy4kj3 күн бұрын

    Reminder: the Bruins went the other way with the draft picks whilst swinging for the fence with some very good and big prospects. These kids are 17-18 and just getting started...big upside.

  • @tempo529
    @tempo5293 күн бұрын

    Lindholm is worth every penny Bruins need his skillset

  • @sso9442
    @sso94423 күн бұрын

    Amusing hearing Felger and Mazz tryiing to talk about hockey. Amateurs.

  • @nolanhughes3180
    @nolanhughes31803 күн бұрын

    The thing everyone seems to be forgetting is how well Poitras played on the second line before he got hurt. Assuming he comes back as 2c and Coyle 3c teams looking pretty good with the potential for prospects to come in and fill any roster spots still open for the taking

  • @donaldbzibziak5946
    @donaldbzibziak59464 күн бұрын

    Come on . One bad year and the year before he was second in selke. He is Bergeron 2.0 . Under 8 for Lindholm is a great deal And he will return to form with Pasta

  • @stevenmorrison5864

    @stevenmorrison5864

    2 сағат бұрын

    I argree with you

  • @Bruins77Fan
    @Bruins77Fan3 күн бұрын

    Bruins overpaid for Lindholm because they had no choice...they had too !

  • @bostonfan719
    @bostonfan7193 күн бұрын

    Who cares about the money. It’s not mine and also the cap is gonna keep going up

  • @thetruthhurts6652
    @thetruthhurts66523 күн бұрын

    I’m hoping Lysell and Poitras can make strides towards that ceiling.

  • @seangoodwin3046
    @seangoodwin30463 күн бұрын

    Both of them are perfect Bruins. If Eric gets back to two years ago then that is a great deal. Nikita is a steal. He was great in the playoffs. He is a ferocious hitter. He is also really funny in interviews. He is going to be wildly popular in Boston.

  • @Dreamreever-71
    @Dreamreever-713 күн бұрын

    I like Lindholm. He's going to set up pasta for lots of goals.

  • @stevenmorrison5864

    @stevenmorrison5864

    2 сағат бұрын

    I argree with you

  • @jacobheaman500
    @jacobheaman5003 күн бұрын

    Mason Lorhie will sit and develop on the 3rd pair and grow into our (hope) D1 left shot aside from Charlie. He’ll get better match ups and complement Peek well. This isn’t the end of hampus. This give mason time. pastas contract was the biggest contract sweeny has given out. 90 million of 8 years. Elias is younger and they’re solidifying their core for the next 5-6 years. Now they’re allowing room for baby Bs to step up and take a spot on the roster. I used to like the sports hub.

  • @Animals_And_Nature_Lovers
    @Animals_And_Nature_Lovers3 күн бұрын

    If the bruins sign someone. They overpay. If they don’t sign someone, they are cheap. You can’t win with Felger and Mazz. Lol

  • @Seven_Hills753
    @Seven_Hills7533 күн бұрын

    Solid d-core heading into the next season. Hoping Swayman signs soon.

  • @Bruins77Fan
    @Bruins77Fan3 күн бұрын

    Lets see how they play in the PLAYOFFS

  • @user-kg1ms4mj1r
    @user-kg1ms4mj1r3 күн бұрын

    you guys are crazy. Best line in the nhl now, deepest defense , and when they sign Sway, best goalie

  • @stevenmorrison5864

    @stevenmorrison5864

    2 сағат бұрын

    I argree with you

  • @SomeOne-uy4kj
    @SomeOne-uy4kj3 күн бұрын

    And what was everyone asking during the last series against FLA? Is McAvoy hurt? And he was not. What happened? Consider that someone played the Belichikian system against the Bruins and said beat us without McAvoy and Pasta. OK, now pair him with Zadora who has Charlie's back defensively and physically. Now, ask yourself what that adds. In addition, you have two more d-men (Lindholm and Lohrei) who can move the puck out with two more defensive big guys. Get it? Those are very good pairings.

  • @peterbedford473
    @peterbedford4733 күн бұрын

    The Bruins accomplished getting two good players in free agency, possibly started to rebuid their prospect pool and will get the contract done for Swayman. They are a better team today.

  • @JambiPot
    @JambiPot3 күн бұрын

    This may be the most cogent analysis of the Bruins I have ever heard from this program.

  • @peterm4486
    @peterm44863 күн бұрын

    Stamkos as good as he is, isn’t even the top 4 player on Tampa…Point, Kucherov, Hedman and the goalie…

  • @kamojet
    @kamojet2 күн бұрын

    I don't see an issue with over paying for Lindholm if that's what you think. Every team in the league is over paying for someone. Toronto's over paying for at least 3 players...

  • @BradYaateeh.
    @BradYaateeh.3 күн бұрын

    I don't think either player is a bad signing.I do question if the contracts will age well.

  • @LightWorkRev2-9

    @LightWorkRev2-9

    Күн бұрын

    Canucks fan here , Lindholm will most likely be a buyout in 3 years. Calgary Flames fans will confirm . He's arguably not even a 2C on a contender. but you'll love Zadorov and he will most likely perform to his contract and cap hit. I hate the fact that Vancouver couldnt get him signed.

  • @marksibley4546
    @marksibley45463 күн бұрын

    As if this guy knows . They are a better team with these two guys then we are with out them .

  • @UpChuckTheBoogie
    @UpChuckTheBoogie3 күн бұрын

    Lohrei is going to be really good

  • @robertforte6697
    @robertforte66973 күн бұрын

    Things to Love: The Bruins got much bigger, faster, physical and nastier on the the 4th line not too mention on their back end and there's no doubt they are a better team now than they were last year Zadorov will make the Bruins bigger and tougher to play against while also giving them the best Top 6 depth on defense in the NHL (objectively) while also allowing Lohrei to have some pressure taken off of him as he develops further Elias Lindholm will also make the Bruins tougher to play against, he’s a legit Top 6 center and he’s arrival also likely means they’ll get more out of both David Pastrnak and Pavel Zacha next season Things not to Love: Elias Lindholm only scored 6, 5x5 goals last year between Calgary and Vancouver and the past two seasons both his high level numbers and his advanced metrics haven’t exactly been on the right side of “great”, in fact they’ve kind of just been in the realm of “barely good enough” Again, I love Lindholm but in terms of their overall Top 6 scoring talent it’s hard to really say that they improved very much by just adding Lindholm and subtracting Debrusk Adds: Elias Lindholm Subtracts: Jake Debrusk The last two seasons combined Jake Debrusk has scored 46 goals. Lindholm, 37 Anything else as of right now in their top 6? Um, nope So again Bruins Homers before you start in I like Lindholm and he’ll make them better while also helping them to get more out of both Pasta and Zacha. 100% agree with this sentiment However, he’s not an elite 1c or high end scoring threat (note he’s two elite years were with Tkachuk & Gradeau, so…) and he’s been declining, not ascending from a scoring perspective two years running AND No one on planet earth could say with a straight face that the Boston Bruins got infinitely better in terms of their overall Top 6 scoring depth with their moves today by simply swapping out Debrusk’s offense for Lindholm’s And no homers, I’m not saying Lindholm is a Debrusk replacement. They moved one Top 6 wing scorer for a Top 6 center scorer. That’s not exponentially improving theie overall Top 6 scoring problem. They moved out Jake Debrusk’s offense in the Top 6 for Elias Lindholm’s offense in the Top 6 A guy who scored 6, 5x5 goals last year in a full time NHL role while he played with good players in all situations Also, the term on Zadorov’s contract is kind of puke inducing but the Cap will go up and that’s just a problem Don Sweeney will have to deal with in 2032 or something because odds are, he’s still going to be GM #yikes It seems as though the Bruins still know that they have to improve in their Top 6 and it sure seems like some other kind of move is coming I can’t believe they are either going to slot Frederic or Geekie into a Top role, again replicating the problem Sweeney can’t get away from (i.e. playing bottom 6 guys in Top 6 roles) Or that they are counting on wild cards like Merkulov or Lysell being their 2RW out of camp, which again, seems like it’s not even close to a real option because Merkulov is not a Top 6 NHL player and all of the reports out of PVD from credible sources indicated Lysell isn't going to be ready to be a full time Top 6 player this coming year in Boston I think another move is coming. I pray another move is coming The Bruins got better in a lot of areas today, there is not doubt about that. However, They still haven’t done enough to address their overall Top 6 scoring needs because they subtracted one Top 6 player to only add another without doing anything else in the Top 6 Plenty of time left in the off season though…. Let’s hope Don Sweeney can get figure it out They can also always address a Top 6 wing at the trade deadline next year if whatever Plan A they decide to go with to start the season ends up imploding So there’s always that to consider as well, although this process of not building through the draft and constantly trading away draft picks is only becoming more and more of a long term problem

  • @johnbrowne2170
    @johnbrowne21703 күн бұрын

    Need more scoring.

  • @Bruins77Fan
    @Bruins77Fan3 күн бұрын

    I agree 100000% NO 1 is untouchable on this team

  • @user-kg1ms4mj1r

    @user-kg1ms4mj1r

    3 күн бұрын

    pasta and sway

  • @danielpos9390
    @danielpos93902 күн бұрын

    I don’t think we overpaid them. I think that’s what they wanted plus to get both of them from the Canucks to us as Bruin fans that’s gonna make us a major contender because they’ve seen how we done in the playoffs in fact yesterday. Lindholm was talking about how close we were to beating the Panthers. Listen to that if you haven’t.

  • @stevenmorrison5864

    @stevenmorrison5864

    2 сағат бұрын

    I argree with you

  • @stevenmorrison5864

    @stevenmorrison5864

    Сағат бұрын

    Both Lindholm and Zadorov give us edge over the Panthers

  • @Neil-ym8vy
    @Neil-ym8vy3 сағат бұрын

    I don't know why they don't get rid of Pasta after the playoff he had. This guy is a typical Ove player without a cup. He only cares about his regular season stats so he can get a new contract. I would definitely see what I could get for him if I were the Bruins.

  • @64jayr
    @64jayr3 күн бұрын

    God damn does Mazz not know hockey 😂

  • @markmurray333

    @markmurray333

    3 күн бұрын

    Mazz is a baseball guy. I think Felger just asks for his take because he has to.

  • @Bruins77Fan
    @Bruins77Fan3 күн бұрын

    Mazz...he IS a 2nd line Center !

  • @MrBostonrobb
    @MrBostonrobb4 күн бұрын

    I like it.

  • @naturebox83
    @naturebox833 күн бұрын

    You can't make these guys happy

  • @chrispetrelis5013
    @chrispetrelis50133 күн бұрын

    MAZZ, HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED A SINGLE ELIAS HINDHOLM GAME? You guys have never watched any of these players yet you comment on a 2 minute you tube video. This show is a muppet show. Mazz is fozzie bear... wucka, wucka

  • @thetruthhurts6652
    @thetruthhurts66523 күн бұрын

    I’d take Lindholm. Stamkos is a pp specialist.

  • @donaldbzibziak5946
    @donaldbzibziak59464 күн бұрын

    Zadorov is a great signing that we need for d in this division . Tough and hate to play against . Our defense is huge now . Believe 5 of 6 are 6’3 and bigger . Trade Swayman to Ottawa for Ullmark and pinto

  • @elvisbullets7382
    @elvisbullets73822 күн бұрын

    All I care about is if we have the '77 Cherry bruins.

  • @sonofthg
    @sonofthg16 сағат бұрын

    I cannot fucking believe it, AT ALL. I agree almost totally. You idiots got it right, I am genuinely extremely fucking surprised. I agree 100% I think. I really hesitate to type that, but I think I agree with y'all. On Lindholm: Every team he has played for has desperately tried to retain him. Look at the basic analytics and it's obvious the Bruins just got a HUGE boost. Lindholm is ~80 pt/season player if he is playing with players who can either equal or boost his game. When he played w/ Tkachuck, he was amazing. When he was moved up in the playoffs w/ Vancouver, he was amazing. He will be playing with Pastrnak and Zacha. His pts will probably be boosted, and tbh, he will also likely be the best center Zacha has ever, or ever will, play with. I am (optimistically) hoping for a 60-70 pt season from Zacha, a 70-80 pt season from Lindholm, and a 100+ pt season from Pastrnak On Zadorov: Yes we needed some bite, and some blood on the blue line, McAvoy is the first pairing, #1 defenseman. He is not a trainer. He should not be making up for typical rookie mistakes. Pairing him with Lohrei down the road might be the way to go, but right now, Lohrei is still learning. He doesn't need to be the dude we rely on in matchups against fucking McDavid or Tkachuck. Zadorov is going to make those guys look twice every two seconds. Giving McAvoy someone who can help defend against McDavid and Tkachuck is going to significantly help us survive those fucking Florida series. To be honest, I think it's also time we bring Lysell up. I agree that DeBrusk wasn't willing to game all the time. Dude was sick when the motor was running. The motor ran twice a year. Naw, bye bye. Thank you for the playoffs performance! Enjoy Vancouver. I am glad we invested in Zadorov instead. He also had a bunch of pts in the recent playoffs. Florida got worse. I genuinely think that depending on the Zacha - Lindholm - Pastrnak chemistry, we could be contenders. It may also sort of depend on Lysell coming up and not sucking though so who knows! Question got y'all: in the NHL, and other sports, being a rat is a useful skill. There is an art to toeing the line.Being able to draw penalties without getting one yourself is a fucking art that Marchand is the utter champion of. Marchand will retire in the not-too-distant future. What is Lysell's rat-king ceiling potential? Do ye believe that Lysell has the finesse to draw penalties and the intellect to not crossing the wrong line at the wrong time?

  • @michaellalli7693
    @michaellalli76933 күн бұрын

    I hope they can trade Hampus Lindholm, Zadorov is exactly what Boston needs now opponents will have someone to worry about. Elias Lindholm is badly needed a 200 foot player will significantly improve their roster.

  • @metalmelodies6718
    @metalmelodies67183 күн бұрын

    I don't see an overpayment, David Krejci $7.25 X6 David Backes $6X6 🤮 Elias Lindholm isn't Backes.

  • @derekmindiuk2798
    @derekmindiuk279818 сағат бұрын

    Maybe alittle to much for lindholm, he's going to be a great fit,also every team would take zadorov,

  • @eddieMFsauceboy
    @eddieMFsauceboy3 күн бұрын

    Classic Felger and Mazz - 0 mention of the cap going up up up...If we get a 70 PT 2 way selke contender out of Lindholm, hes we'll worth that number.

  • @user-sg8ld2hp6z

    @user-sg8ld2hp6z

    3 күн бұрын

    Lmao I hate listening to the clowns, 7.75 for a 1 c is good, plus he’ll be playing with pasta he’ll have 70-80 points lmao, plus cap is projected next 3 years to go up 4 million, I’ve wanted him for years, he’s a good centre, and I like stamkos, but I’ll take lindholm any day of week for 7 years, we spent 12 million for 2 guys that made us way better, somebody who can deal with Florida, and a reliable centre, our D is top notch still have goalie depth, Boston gets the most out of guys in excited, we got 2 of the top 10 FA available, anyone who’s not happy is a moron haha, but like you said typical of these guys, we’re a solidly a top 3 team in the east.

  • @user-zv8yl3lk8x
    @user-zv8yl3lk8x3 күн бұрын

    Kudos to these clowns talking hockey but in the end they have a limited knowledge base of the game, the culture, the intricacies and the intangibles that permeate that sport. They are constantly trying to make metaphors to the other sports to find footing talking about hockey.

  • @coreysghostglowmask8650
    @coreysghostglowmask86502 күн бұрын

    At some point if you wanna get something... if your really look for a "fit"... you gotta pay for it... if not you stick with your 🗑can....

  • @user-sg8ld2hp6z
    @user-sg8ld2hp6z3 күн бұрын

    Was barely an overspend, we maybe spent 775k over on lindholm, and zadorov was a good deal, christ do you guys know anything about hockey, we got so much better today it’s not even funny, between what we added swayman, potsy coming back, and why the hell would we put coyle on the 3rd line when he had a great year last year and played well as the 2c, potsy will be there one day if he keeps progressing like I think he will, but for now you run, Zacha-lindholm-pasta Marchy-coyle-geekie Merkulov-potsy-Freddy Brazeau-Beecher-open that last winger spot is pretty well open to any of our young guns that are ready for the next move and on d we’re stacked. Mcavoy-zadorov Carlo-lindholm Peeke-lohrei Wotherspoon we’re going to be just fine better than fine

  • @georgedudleysashtray3860
    @georgedudleysashtray38603 күн бұрын

    Bring back Pah Lindholm

  • @Neil-ym8vy
    @Neil-ym8vy3 сағат бұрын

    I'm support the Lindholm deal without Zadorov. They could have gotten another defenseman and another winger with the money they gave for him. I don't think he is worth it. Why has he bouncing around if he is so great ( Calgary and Vancouver)? To me he is overrated.

  • @peterm4486
    @peterm44863 күн бұрын

    Added a great Lindholm now let’s get rid of the stiff Lindholm

  • @whalehunter9640

    @whalehunter9640

    3 күн бұрын

    i just dont understand why people are againt h. lindholm. he had to take another role this season and now adding zadorov will allow lindy to play his game and return to the offensive powerhouse he was

  • @peterm4486

    @peterm4486

    3 күн бұрын

    @@whalehunter9640 The film doesn’t lie…especially down the stretch when things got tough, he absolutely crumby. I can see him being a better player in the West…East is beast!

  • @UpChuckTheBoogie
    @UpChuckTheBoogie3 күн бұрын

    Get rid of hampus Lindholm use the cap space for a forward

  • @brianshaughnessy4020

    @brianshaughnessy4020

    3 күн бұрын

    Thank you. I've been saying that since after game seven against Florida in 2023. Maybe the worst performance by a pro athlete I've ever seen in one game.

  • @UpChuckTheBoogie

    @UpChuckTheBoogie

    2 күн бұрын

    ​@@brianshaughnessy4020They waited too long to trade ullmark, they should have traded debrusk and they are going to blow it with Lindholm he needs to go at this point just to clear the cap space.

  • @kennethsonia5350
    @kennethsonia53503 күн бұрын

    H. Lindholm and Zacha need to be traded.

  • @user-iw8qr9dy8w
    @user-iw8qr9dy8w3 күн бұрын

    ..get trouba…& u have big bad bruins…on defense!

  • @whalehunter9640
    @whalehunter96403 күн бұрын

    god these guys are dumb - lindholm will be great. hes not an offensive powerhouse, he will be great and really help on the back end.

  • @michaella5799
    @michaella57993 күн бұрын

    Zadorovs biggest hits in his career are all against evander kane, lol

  • @Aaron-kq7rd
    @Aaron-kq7rd3 күн бұрын

    Are these guys always clowns? Are they clueless or just play it on tv?

  • @Bruins77Fan
    @Bruins77Fan3 күн бұрын

    McAVOY disappears EVERY PLAYOFF !

  • @michaella5799
    @michaella57993 күн бұрын

    Lindholm is a 2c/3c who had one good season in his career..

  • @georgemcelroy3058
    @georgemcelroy30582 сағат бұрын

    These two know nothing about hockey.

  • @nickpete165
    @nickpete165Күн бұрын

    These guys don’t know shit about this sport lol

  • @Bruins77Fan
    @Bruins77Fan3 күн бұрын

    Boy did the Bruins pay for it....because they CAN'T DRAFT !!!

  • @LightWorkRev2-9
    @LightWorkRev2-9Күн бұрын

    Mark my words. Lindholm will be a buyout in 3 years. 3C at best on a contender. Zadorov is a beast but never in the top 4 in his career. Bruins fans will love Z and hate L

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