DeWALT vs Bosch Routers - Which Woodworking Tool is Best?

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0:00 Best Woodworking Router
0:14 Bosch vs DeWALT Router Features
2:22 Bosch vs DeWALT Fixed Bases
5:07 Plunge Base Differences
8:22 Performance Differences
9:15 Bit Change and Collet Differences
9:49 Which Router is the Best?
10:38 Best Router for a Router Table
11:10 This Makes Trim Routers Better

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  • @731Woodworks
    @731Woodworks9 ай бұрын

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  • @Barovian20
    @Barovian209 ай бұрын

    Fun fact with DeWalt. When you buy their big DW618B3 router kit with the case and it doesn't include the 1/2" collet, if you contact support for a replacement, they'll send you another brand new complete router kit. When that one arrives and you open it to discover that it too doesn't not include the 1/2" collet and again contact support and they send you a third complete new router kit missing the 1/2" collet, you realize you'll just have to buy one using the money you made from selling two free router kits.

  • @Christopher._M

    @Christopher._M

    2 күн бұрын

    Hahaha

  • @rpcrocker1
    @rpcrocker19 ай бұрын

    I have three Bosch routers. One in the table, one with both bases and the CE125 palm router. They perform very well!

  • @danielcox9202
    @danielcox92026 ай бұрын

    I'm only commenting because I have seen you do this several times. But when using a guide such as that from a track saw, never use the flat side against the guide. it is designed so if you keep the curved side against the guide your depth doesn't change with small variations. If the flat side tends to move to one edge, you have destroyed that nice line you have with the edge guide.

  • @melissaburns5240
    @melissaburns52409 ай бұрын

    You failed to mention that the Bosch fixed base can be micro adjusted from the top when used with a standard router table plate. You just need to drill one extra hole and use an Allen wrench. No need for an overpriced router lift, especially if you make you table so that you can easily access the router from the front.

  • @woodoctor

    @woodoctor

    9 ай бұрын

    I was going to mention the same thing 👍 and if you use that Bosch router in a Bosch router table they have the hole drilled already for the above table adjustment

  • @williamstead6354

    @williamstead6354

    9 ай бұрын

    Triton's routers can also be adjusted from the top. Have one in my router table, works great.

  • @aaronblackford981

    @aaronblackford981

    9 ай бұрын

    I was ready to mention that as well. That was the number one reason I ended up with the full Bosch kit.

  • @paratus04

    @paratus04

    9 ай бұрын

    Yup. Kreg sells a router table plate specifically for the Bosch that already has the hole cut out for the micro adjust on the fixed base and the Bosch comes with an extra long T handle Allen wrench meant to interface with it through the router plate. If you’ve got a 3D printer there’s also several vacuum hose attachments on Thingiverse you can print to make mounting dust collection easier when used in a router table.

  • @borismakesart

    @borismakesart

    7 ай бұрын

    I heard that you can only adjust it above the table a small amount using the micro adjustment feature, no?

  • @TheHiredgoon0
    @TheHiredgoon06 ай бұрын

    So glad you touched on which you prefer to mount on a router table. Most reviews forget that part!

  • @logicnetpro
    @logicnetpro8 ай бұрын

    Great comparison presentation without the fluff, which I appreciate!

  • @rauljr9869
    @rauljr98699 ай бұрын

    Great video going through all the pros and cons between, always appreciate you stating "it's your personal preference". Keep them coming!

  • @ruelsmith
    @ruelsmith9 ай бұрын

    The Dewalt plunge base has built-in dust collection that sucks it in on the base. Dust collection is a separate purchase for the Bosch. Dewalt can use standard bushings, where Bosch requires proprietary bushings. The Dewalt can be had with a molded case, as well.

  • @sonnygouge894
    @sonnygouge8949 ай бұрын

    This is the perfect comparison of probably 2 of the more contested router combos at this price point. Great video! I'm going with the Bosch kit!

  • @timothysprinkle3052
    @timothysprinkle30529 ай бұрын

    I enjoyed my Bosch trim router so I bought the Bosch plunge router when it was on sale last year. So far I like the bump in power for dado cutting. I really haven't used the plunge base yet, but I appreciate the heads up on the 1/8 increment settings because that will help with some wood/ plywood types. I think I have been setting the bit height/depth the hard way with a ruler, so I think I will start using the bars in the future. The only issue I have is with the fine adjustment bottoming out, but frankly that was my fault for not setting the gross adjustment closer to the actual depth. I am happy with the router. I would like to know more about your straight edge you are using though.

  • @aladdin4d
    @aladdin4d9 ай бұрын

    One thing you didn't mention, and may not have even noticed, is the fixed base on newer Bosch 1617's has an above the table adjustment feature for a poor man's lift. I have two 1617's. My old one, which is about 15 years old and still going strong, doesn't have it. My new one, which I bought because of your heads up on an Amazon deal, does.

  • @borismakesart

    @borismakesart

    7 ай бұрын

    I heard that there is a limit to how far you can adjust it above the table using the micro adjustment feature, no?

  • @aladdin4d

    @aladdin4d

    7 ай бұрын

    @@borismakesart It's possible but I don't know. I've never actually used that feature. I already had a router lift by the time I bought my second 1617.

  • @bretts4343
    @bretts43437 ай бұрын

    I got the DeWalt with the 3-base kit. Mine includes a D-handle base and I love it! It's got a trigger for power that's so much easier than the toggle switch on the motor. It also comes with a hard plastic storage case for the motor and all 3 bases plus tools and accessories. The DeWalt also comes with a dust collection attachment for the fixed & D-handle bases. I'm quite happy with mine, but the Bosch would probably have worked just as well.

  • @douglasanderson7260
    @douglasanderson72609 ай бұрын

    Good video, fair comparison. I have both of these as well, though I do not have the plunge base for the Bosch. I got the Bosch for my router table. I like the Dewalts' ability to hook up dust collection. I think that is an important feature. Though it is not perfect, it does allow me to see what I am cutting through the cut. When there is no dust collector, there is so much dust .5 seconds into the cut that it is anyone's guess. Though with the lift on a table, I think Bosch has a bit of an advantage. Though, to be honest, my goto is my little trim touter with the plunge base. No cords needed, I have a duct collector adapter for it, and the plunge base can take a guide bushing.

  • @jimfeaster4837
    @jimfeaster48379 ай бұрын

    Keep your videos going I enjoy a lot!

  • @thomasandrews7783
    @thomasandrews77839 ай бұрын

    I’ve got two of the Bosch and I like the plunge base for the flat surface on the base for using with an edge guide.

  • @chrisd3648
    @chrisd36489 ай бұрын

    I had the Dewalt in my router table and a wood chip fell into the air holes by the bit and destroyed all the fan blades inside and caused the router to overheat and die. So I switched to Bosch. Would not recommend the Dewalt for router tables because of this design flaw. Bosch design greatly reduces this risk.

  • @monteglover4133
    @monteglover41339 ай бұрын

    One of the Bosh routers has a power switch on the handle of the plunge base which is extremely nice for controlling the tool. The large variable speed, Milwaukee corded router with body grip is one to look into it’s my favorite, unfortunately it got lost in our move.

  • @sbauer051
    @sbauer0518 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the breakdown. I picked up the Dewalt and I absolutely love it.

  • @9995bkohl
    @9995bkohl9 ай бұрын

    Have both. Dewalt bearing locked up in my router table. Had a small fire. Warrenty fix. It now is in the fixed base and rarely used. Bought another Bosch for the table. Prefer 2 wrenches and i think its quieter. Love the Bosch plunge, the fence and guide bushings

  • @michaelclark7602
    @michaelclark76027 ай бұрын

    I sanded my wooden handles and dipped them in liquid rubber worked great for me

  • @stlwoodworking
    @stlwoodworking9 ай бұрын

    Like Matt I also have the Bosch in my router table with the jessem lift. Works great

  • @stlwoodworking

    @stlwoodworking

    9 ай бұрын

    @@cindyhammack68 I actually have that exact same setup. The only thing I added was the dust right box underneath the table for dust collection. I use a small pad to move anything under 6 in Long through the table because I like my fingers and want to keep them lol

  • @ancienttom97

    @ancienttom97

    9 ай бұрын

    make sure your Bosch has the 2 wrench locking mechanism on the arbor and not the pin lock.@@cindyhammack68

  • @garymiller5937
    @garymiller59379 ай бұрын

    Great video Matt! Thanks 👍 for the comparison. 😊😊

  • @warrensmith2902
    @warrensmith29029 ай бұрын

    I've had both of those routers. But you'll have to pull my Porter Cable 890 from my cold dead hands. The built in dust collection on the plunge base is on par with the Festool routers. Plus I have it adapted to use the LR32 router base so I can do 32mm hole spacing.

  • @aarontfoulkes
    @aarontfoulkes3 ай бұрын

    Excellent comparison... I'm a Bosch fan and I think I will go with the Bosch kit. Thanks so much for the vid.

  • @ancienttom97
    @ancienttom979 ай бұрын

    My Bosch router looks to be the same model as that one. Mine has a push pin to lock the arbor for changing the bits. To lock the arbor with a push pin, you would have to reach under the table, that is if the pin was accessible at all in the router table, to change out a bit. With a 2 wrench configuration for the collet, it makes it easy to access with both wrenches to change out your bits from the top of the table. In short, I now have to go out and buy another router for mounting when I build my router table. It is nice to know, though, that they have changed the collet locking mechanism on this model of Bosch. Thanks for pointing out that DeWalt has changed over to a pin locking mechanism.

  • @sinsofvorador
    @sinsofvorador9 ай бұрын

    I have that router and the mr23evs. I keep the 1617 in the router table, and I use the mr23 for most other stuff. I love the trigger style power switch of the mr23 vs the 1617. Plus, there feels like way more power to the mr23. But to each there own

  • @kentdavison2576
    @kentdavison25769 ай бұрын

    I ended up choosing the Skil router. It is 2.5 hp vs 2.25hp and has slow start up and digital screen for speed adjustment. It has worked great for me. May want to add this router to this comparison.

  • @am2dan
    @am2dan9 ай бұрын

    I attached the Bosch fixed base to a piece of 1/4" aluminum plate, and together they act as the lift for my router table. Of course I cut a hole for the router bit to come through the plate, and I positioned a hole for a hex wrench to operate the micro-adjust, which has plenty of travel for the job. The fixed base stays in the router table, and I can easily pop the router out of that and into the plunge base for hand-held work.

  • @glennm449
    @glennm4499 ай бұрын

    About time you reviewed some Bosch tools! The 12v Bosch trim router is awesome and would make a great review!

  • @cyrnus
    @cyrnus9 ай бұрын

    Love my Bosch all the way around with one exception. The micro adjust on the plunge base will adjust itself with the vibration of the motor. So it is undependable. Minor issue though and you can easily make adjustments with feeler guages and moving the stop

  • @Griffinwoodworks
    @Griffinwoodworks9 ай бұрын

    I chose the Bosch 1617, solely because it was on sale at the time. I’ve used both and you can’t go wrong with either. I’m like you with the lights at 45 years old lol. These 2 are gold standards in the woodworking world, there’s no reason a led can’t be put in instead of my janky flex light I’ve got stuck on mine. 😂

  • @LYTOMIZE_Woodshop
    @LYTOMIZE_Woodshop9 ай бұрын

    I really need to get around to using more than a trim router and my router table. For some reason I've shied away from using the plunge/fixed base routers even though I now have three (inherited). I'll make that a fall goal!

  • @The-Handsome-Devil
    @The-Handsome-Devil8 ай бұрын

    Great video once again, I purchased the DeWalt and I am very satisfied with it

  • @SaintFredrocks
    @SaintFredrocks9 ай бұрын

    For $60 more I got the Bosch MR23EVSK, and I could not be happier. It has a trigger in the handle of both bases to turn it on and off, LED work lights, the fixed base has the same kind of grips as the plunge base, it is 15 amps with 2.3 maximum horsepower, and the cord swivels in the base. I LOVE this router. Loads of power and a pleasure to use. You need to try this one out.

  • @rafaeltb

    @rafaeltb

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot for the comment. I just got the Dewalt 12 amp combo, googled the Bosch 15 amp combo you mentioned and purchased after seeing the video with all the features included for just a little more money; I'll be returning the Dewalt now.

  • @gaylehiner9511

    @gaylehiner9511

    7 ай бұрын

    Can you send link, please, thanks.

  • @FMunixxx

    @FMunixxx

    11 күн бұрын

    Unfortunately, the trigger in the handle means the MR23EVSK can't be operated in a router table.

  • @SaintFredrocks

    @SaintFredrocks

    11 күн бұрын

    @@FMunixxx it can be used in a router table with the fixed base. It includes a wrench to adjust it from above with the kit. I have another router in my table, so I don't use it in a table myself.

  • @SaintFredrocks

    @SaintFredrocks

    11 күн бұрын

    @@gaylehiner9511 I tried to comment with a link a few months ago, and YT said I was trying to spam you, and wouldn't let me post for a while. I am here again by chance so if you are still interest go to 1 Top Tools. It is still at $309 and I paid no shipping or taxes. They also have the refurbished kit for less, but I have always had bad luck with refurbished stuff myself, so I bought new.

  • @affliction1979
    @affliction19799 ай бұрын

    I prefer the Bosch, just because we use both at work, we purchased 3 of each about 3 years ago, all 3 Bosch routers are still running, but only 1 of the Dewalts are still running. Bosch seems to have the stronger motor.

  • @dean314videos9
    @dean314videos92 ай бұрын

    I love this video… it made me choose the Milwaukee 1/2” one. No I’m not a fan… it became my first… but I watched your other video about it and it help me decide. I am new to woodworking, I’m a vet, and I’m building my little shop to make picture frames and canvas paintings. Thanks for the videos and excellent advice on them.

  • @jimrosson6702
    @jimrosson67029 ай бұрын

    Great video Matt

  • @davegravel3740
    @davegravel37409 ай бұрын

    I bought a refurbished Bosch router with both fixed and plunge bases. Acme Tools had a good deal. Love the router. Love that the wrenches aren't just cheap stamped steel and actually much better quality wrenches. The hard case is a nice addition as it has spots for most accessories. Really don't think you could go wrong with either brand. I bought the dewalt cordless router as I want to learn hand carving with a router. Eric rhoten videos #530 and #588 shows how to install small fairy lights on a trim router but no reason it couldn't work on a full size router.

  • @philshock3805
    @philshock38059 ай бұрын

    Came to mention that the fixed base for the Bosch can be adjusted from the top if mounted in a router table and used somewhat as a poor man's router lift but see others have beat me to it. Something else worth noting about using the 1617 in a router table is that it's not uncommon for the switch to become inoperable due to dust lodging in the electronics and preventing contact. It's an easy remedy to pull the top cap off (long torx req), and clear the debris, but I've had to do it twice in 6-7 years. Another thing I don't like about the Bosch is the need for the adapter to use template bushings. Other than those minor issues ... it's been a workhorse.

  • @terrydanks
    @terrydanks4 ай бұрын

    @04:52. Just received the Dewalt DW618 combo. It came in a large plastic case that is contoured for both bases and various, but non-included, accessories. Very similar to the case with the Bosch. No "canvas bag."

  • @FareedHameed
    @FareedHameed9 ай бұрын

    how do the dust collection compare between both?

  • @thenext9537
    @thenext95379 ай бұрын

    I have the Bosch with plunge base and also guide. However, I did go with the Dewalt for the palm router. I'm not one of these one brand for everything, I go where things work. Team yellow mostly, only because my planer, tablesaw, drills and palm router are from them. I have Bosch plunge router, hammer drill (bulldog) and, a router bit set, guides, etc. Either one is great, I've used the Dewalt many times.

  • @p24t
    @p24t9 ай бұрын

    I went with the Bosch with just the fixed base for two main reasons. First, it was on sale. Second, I already had the Bosch kit with the plunge base, but that 1617 was a pain to get into my router lift and I had no desire to try and remove/reinstall it.

  • @kevinroberts9814
    @kevinroberts98149 ай бұрын

    Both are fine routers, in my opinion. I recently chose the Bosch over the DeWalt based solely on the two-wrench bit changing design. For me, it's actually much easier to tighten/loosen with two wrenches. With one wrench you still have to hold the router body somehow. Also, I have an older Bosch with the button mechanism and it has broken twice over time.

  • @jv17251
    @jv172518 ай бұрын

    I have a few porter cable 690s with different profiles. I purchased a bosch just for the plunging. I was surprised how cool it runs, used it for hrs didnt get hot or even warm. It sucks in air from the top motor to cool it down. 690s are work horses but those suckers get hot. I will say this it is a bit tall that might be harder to keep balance running on a narrow work piece.

  • @Joey.Darkwoods-Studio
    @Joey.Darkwoods-Studio4 ай бұрын

    I picked up the Dewalt DW618 with the 3 base kit... but ending up returning it. I don't know if my unit was defective, but there was a few things that feel feel right. For starters, the variable speed adjustment. Felt like if was stuck there and was almost impossible to adjust using one finger without using something to help, not smooth at all. The other thing was the adjustment ring/wheel. For one, it wasn't easy to adjust in either direction, felt dry gears rubbing, no smooth frictionless turn here folks! Almost like the weight of the motor caused it to jam up on itself. For it to "slide" properly, I had to use my free hand and lift up the top of the motor to release the downward pressure and then adjust. I ordered up the DW611PK instead... waiting on it to arrive. A little smaller, more in line with what I might need it for at the moment, and this is my first router.

  • @JimDoubleYa
    @JimDoubleYa2 ай бұрын

    Very helpful! Thank you! Have you tried the Metabo-HPT 36v full size plunge router?

  • @davidcarvalho9904
    @davidcarvalho99049 ай бұрын

    tyvm for the info. I own the dewalt 20vbecause of batteries.for air bostich and metabo. but on my dewalt miter i do own a ryobi stand because of price

  • @MrTooTechnical
    @MrTooTechnical9 ай бұрын

    Great vid. I would chose the Bosch 1619evs.

  • @kamilegier4730
    @kamilegier47309 ай бұрын

    I have two DeWalt 2 1/4 hp routers, each came with a hard plastic case with storage for bits, each came with a wrench, fixed and plunge bases with base plates for small and larger bits, each have collets for 1/2” and 1/4”

  • @KenCharlesTheGreat
    @KenCharlesTheGreat9 ай бұрын

    I have both, I like the way the Dewalt fixed base adjusts with a collar. I have found all Bosch routers are too fiddly to adjust and a pain to insert into their bases, aside from that they are decent . My Bosch 1617 is going in a router lift, I did have it in a router plate and used its "above the table " adjustment capabilities but wasn't impressed.

  • @MikeStJohn-du5ue
    @MikeStJohn-du5ue9 ай бұрын

    I always enjoy your videos, thanks for the content. I would go with the Dewalt because it will meet my needs.

  • @WoodworkerDan
    @WoodworkerDan6 ай бұрын

    I bought a router with rubber handles and they felt very comfortable at first, but over time the rubber turned sticky. I was able to solve the problem by turning hew handles out of wood. A few weeks ago I bought a new router kit, and I went with the Bosch because I wanted wooden handles. Also, I strongly prefer the carrying case for the Bosch.

  • @howiewhatever1072
    @howiewhatever10729 ай бұрын

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks like the Dewalt plunge base allows you to hook up a shop vac for dust collection. My PC has that. It doesn’t get all the dust, but it does get most. It’s a nice feature.

  • @gregtrimble7113
    @gregtrimble71139 ай бұрын

    How does the ridged router compare ? Love the lifetime warranty

  • @redtop03
    @redtop039 ай бұрын

    I have the bosch 1617 in a table, and the 20v Dewalt trim router, I'm torn on whether to get that DeWalt with plunge base or another Bosch 1617 with plunge base, I love both brands LOL

  • @jeffersonnaylor1019
    @jeffersonnaylor10198 ай бұрын

    Have you considered testing and adding the Bosch track saw(s) to your comparisons?

  • @chipperkeithmgb
    @chipperkeithmgb9 ай бұрын

    Glad I’ve still got my two Porter cable 890 from Oxford England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @hackfabrication139
    @hackfabrication1399 ай бұрын

    I own five Bosch routers: 2 1617's (one for my JessUm table, one with plunge), both Colts (with are surprisingly powerful - The 1.25hp is attached to my MilesCraft circle cutting jig, the 1hp is my 'grab it' for quick roundovers and chamfers. Only complaint is the OEM base on the 1hp), and the 12v trim router. Yeah, I've got a Bosch problem. That 2.3hp model keeps pleading, "take me home"....

  • @AlienLeader4
    @AlienLeader49 ай бұрын

    Very nice and in-depth look at both routers. I am a Dewalt fan so I would go with Mustard. Keep up the great work. 👽

  • @amineiratni6516
    @amineiratni65162 ай бұрын

    Brilliant comparison, I've been looking to buy one of these two but I'm struggling to find their counterparts in Europe. Anyone would know what's the name of the 240v version of these two? (Bosch 1617 and Dewalt DW618)

  • @jrey126
    @jrey1269 ай бұрын

    Dealt has a track attachment, awesome

  • @MTNurse
    @MTNurse9 ай бұрын

    Wondering if anyone can tell me which computer Matt does his editing on. The Mac Book Pro or the Mac desk top he has listed under "Computer Equipment" he uses. Thanks!

  • @markhinds1361
    @markhinds13615 ай бұрын

    Bosch for me anyway. Thanks for the comparison video. Be blessed brother.

  • @eliezerl05
    @eliezerl059 ай бұрын

    There is a version of the Dewalt router that has a plastic case, it even has a place in the case to store an edge guide along with bits and collets.

  • @Jimc4007
    @Jimc40079 ай бұрын

    I went with the Dewalt for 2 reasons, watching Matt for the last 3-4 years using his and I have a lot of yellow/black in my shop. I've somehow managed to turn into a bit of a Dewalt fanboy it seems, even though I have several brands of other tools as well.

  • @ronswoodshack
    @ronswoodshack9 ай бұрын

    Great review Mighty Matt

  • @731Woodworks

    @731Woodworks

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @stevenrichardson6172
    @stevenrichardson61729 ай бұрын

    personally for me the decider was the dust collection on the dewalt plunge base... That to me made the deal vs the bosch that didn't have dust collection built in.

  • @floydhare4288
    @floydhare42889 ай бұрын

    I am a Dewalt Guy. My trim routers are cordless Dewalt, Milwaukee. I recently Bought a Craftsman and a Flex Router. I use these in My sign making. All of them have features Ilike. My Corded router is a dewalt

  • @cbruced24
    @cbruced249 ай бұрын

    I definitely like the Bosch router system all the way around I'm not feeling like there's that big of a need on a fixed base

  • @vernsteinbrecker3759
    @vernsteinbrecker37599 ай бұрын

    I ended up buying the Bosch last month. I have a cheaper fixed speed router, that was all that was available out here when I needed a router. The speed was 25000 and I bought a spiral flush trim bit 1/4”. On the third cut it broke into many pieces, when I talked to the supplier they told me the max speed is 18000. I never gave it a thought about router speeds before. Lesson learned

  • @user-cb3hs3du4m
    @user-cb3hs3du4m9 ай бұрын

    I recently started using the DeWalt, and was very pleased with how smooth and comfortable it was. But then the brushes went out in the middle of a project... Looking around my shop, this wasn't the first DeWalt tool to suffer brush or motor failure while doing simple, mundane tasks, but the most I've had to repair on any of my Bosch tools was a power cord on a worm drive saw. So my vote for the BEST would go to Bosch simply for longevity.

  • @danger1240

    @danger1240

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah DeWalt is not what it once was. They are worse than Ryobi these days.

  • @FixItFrench
    @FixItFrench9 ай бұрын

    You made a lot of good points. I think these are two of the best routers on the market. I love my Bosch router, but I think the Dewalt has a few better features. If you have either of these routers, you will be a happy woodworker 👍🏼

  • @supergimp2000
    @supergimp20009 ай бұрын

    I’ve got both and both are great tools. One convenient thing about the Bosch is that you can mount the fixed base under a table and there is a hex socket that allows you to adjust the bit height from the top with an Allen key. Before I got a proper router lift my 1617 was mounted in a simple bare router plate set into my bench top. You just need to drill a hole in your router plate aligning with the adjustment hex screw in the base and then you can tweak the cutter height from the top of the table. An economical solution if you buy the kit with both bases. Also on the DeWalt plunge base, the cap on top of the accordion tube pops off and hooks up to a shop vac for dust collection. Not the greatest, but it’s something.

  • @georgewilmore7599
    @georgewilmore75999 ай бұрын

    I have 3 Bosch 1617 2 in tables one freehand, 2 porter cable one plunge and one freehand, 1 skill combination plunge and freehand and a Bosch colt. I wouldn’t throw any of them out. Did I mention I hate changing bits.

  • @JohnMansfield-ky8if
    @JohnMansfield-ky8if2 ай бұрын

    Bosch 1617 is the clear winner. Although I love Dewalt tools, I bought the Dewalt 3 base kit when I first started back in 2008 and had to glue a part back onto the router within the first hour of use (didn't inspire confidence). The motor always had interruptions in the voltage. It vibrated a lot too. I now have 3 Bosch 1617 kits. Why? Ultra smooth. Long lasting. Wood handles. Very stable and easy to use. Best plunge base on the market. Did I mention ultra smooth. Plunge base lock is spectacular. Chip guard is spectacular. There's a reason why you'll see the pros using this one.

  • @borismakesart
    @borismakesart7 ай бұрын

    I went with the Dewalt because it has a nice built in dust collection system in the plunge base

  • @bigbawls81
    @bigbawls819 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @731Woodworks

    @731Woodworks

    9 ай бұрын

    Wow! Thank you 👊

  • @bigbawls81

    @bigbawls81

    9 ай бұрын

    I very much appreciate your videos. You do an outstanding job. @@731Woodworks

  • @bigredracingdog466
    @bigredracingdog4666 ай бұрын

    2:38 Agreed. I dislike round handles on any router. They make the router feel 'tippy' when you're carrying it, and using it with just a bearing bit with less than half the base on the workpiece feels sketchy. The vertical grips on the plunge bases are much better.

  • @bijan4727
    @bijan47278 ай бұрын

    Hi Matt. This was excellent as usual. I have a question for you. I have a Dewalt 611 PK router ( a palm router with a plunger ) I can not use rabbet bit because the bit is a little bit wider than the opening of the base plate. I have been looking for a after market base plate that comes with a base plate opening wider than what I have and I have not been able to find one. Do you know of any ? I appreciate your input. Thanks

  • @andre1987eph

    @andre1987eph

    4 ай бұрын

    Time for a router table?

  • @matthewstrickland5788
    @matthewstrickland57884 ай бұрын

    I’m went with the Bosch , mainly for router table

  • @robertpenoyer9998
    @robertpenoyer99989 ай бұрын

    If the Bosch 1617EVS's fixed base is designed like the Bosch MRF23EVS's fixed base (which I own), then there is a major design flaw. The base is designed to support the router motor when the router is used in the standard way, call it right-side-up. But when the base is mounted in a router table, the base and router motor are upside-down. The entire weight of the router motor is supported by a single snap ring when the base and motor are upside down. The snap ring is not strong enough to stay in its groove and hold the weight of the motor firmly and reliably. It can fail and the motor can drop. Mine did, even after I replaced the shaft and snap ring. I had to remove the snap ring and replace it with a homemade modification to solve the problem.

  • @scootermcduder5479
    @scootermcduder54799 ай бұрын

    Oh wow! I was literally just thinking about these two routers yesterday and was planning to mention that you should do a comparison since I saw in another video that you owned them both.

  • @anthonym6939

    @anthonym6939

    9 ай бұрын

    Great review. For your many (I am guessing) European subscribers, do you know what the equivalent model numbers would be - cannot find either one available here?

  • @georgiewanders
    @georgiewanders8 ай бұрын

    I'm a sucker for DeWalt's yellow but the two wrench thing on the Bosch is unbeatable. I'm saving to buy the DeWalt obviously

  • @Madcow-454
    @Madcow-4548 ай бұрын

    I have the Craftsman Professional made by Bosch, it's over 10 years old.

  • @petesoebekti2022
    @petesoebekti20229 ай бұрын

    i prefer to buy plunge base/fixed base combo kits with both quarter inch and half inch shank collets and spindle locks included do not use collet reducers because they don't hold the router bit that well 😀

  • @luciflash
    @luciflash9 ай бұрын

    Having had two Bosch routers, I would definitely chose the Makita! The build quality and features are a step above.

  • @andy2253
    @andy22539 ай бұрын

    The old Elu/Dewalt DW621 router was the absolute best outside of Festool

  • @RazorStrap
    @RazorStrap6 ай бұрын

    Micro depth adjustment on the BOSCH fixed base is superior to the DeWalt. I take the BOSCH easily for both fixed and plunge base. Most BOSCH fixed base negatives you cite are superficial.

  • @BradSnyderAltendorf
    @BradSnyderAltendorf9 ай бұрын

    I think the absolute best router is the one i got for free! Can't beat that price point and it helps that it's a triton!

  • @davidndahura7437
    @davidndahura74379 ай бұрын

    Both are good routers reason i can go with bosch its more convenient on market for consumption.

  • @caseyscorner40
    @caseyscorner407 ай бұрын

    I've had a Ryobi for years now, but that's only because at the time I could only afford that one. I needed a better router for a project I'm working on, so I went today and bought the Bosch from Lowe's. The biggest thing I wanted it for is the plunge routing base. I've only ever used a fixed base router. I'll probably try to locate a 1/2" collet for the Ryobi and use it in a router table. I've had problems with the collets not getting tight enough and the bit backs off and ruins what I'm working on. I'm hoping the Bosch doesn't have this problem.

  • @caseyscorner40

    @caseyscorner40

    7 ай бұрын

    Well thr ryobi router doesn't have a changeable collet. It's a fixed collet on the end of the shaft.

  • @bdm1000
    @bdm10009 ай бұрын

    I like the Bosch because it has metric as well as imperial.

  • @Bremovations
    @Bremovations9 ай бұрын

    I went with the Skil vs either of these at the time. The LED was a plus and you're absolutely right about not having them on the more expensive brands. If your entry market competitor can give you it at their price point, there's no reason the big names can't.

  • @CarrollNick94

    @CarrollNick94

    9 ай бұрын

    Me too! The skil is close to half the price, and it certainly isn't half the router.

  • @731Woodworks

    @731Woodworks

    9 ай бұрын

    Agreed. I reviewed the Skil a month or so back. It’s a great deal for the price.

  • @coatknight

    @coatknight

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@731Woodworksgot it based of your review but it hasn't worked very well. Struggled to do what my handheld Ryobi was doing. Died after a week. Just plain died. Maybe I got a lemon.

  • @CowsGoM3ow

    @CowsGoM3ow

    4 ай бұрын

    @@coatknight Thats what 30/90 day returns and warranties are for.

  • @1steelcobra
    @1steelcobra9 ай бұрын

    The DeWalt can also be bought just as the motor housing if it's going in a table to stay.

  • @BustedKnuckleWoodworks
    @BustedKnuckleWoodworks9 ай бұрын

    This is actually a surprisingly good review. I think a lot of people just go for the Bosch by default, but that DeWalt is no slouch.

  • @richpeggyfranks490
    @richpeggyfranks4909 ай бұрын

    I rarely comment, but I felt like I needed to chime in with a "double thumbs-up". I own both of these routers and agree with you on every point. I usually go to the Bosch. There is a feeling of quality in the Bosch that the Dewalt doesn't have. The Dewalt has never let me down, but for some reason I like the feel of the Bosch better. I keep both routers on their plunge bases. Thanks for another fun, educational video.

  • @731Woodworks

    @731Woodworks

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @frijoli9579
    @frijoli95799 ай бұрын

    Interesting. My Dewault came with a hard case, but no bit storage.

  • @bobkrol5939
    @bobkrol59399 ай бұрын

    I have the Bosch 1617EVSPK and really like it except for a couple things. 1. Fixed base - if you micro-adjust the height and try to get little above the end of travel - the C-ring pops out of the groove and no more micro-adjust. 2. I do NOT like the twist function to get the router out of the fixed base - hard to align, takes too much time with little visibility. 3. The plunge base works good, but I wish the base was ROUND instead of having the flat - if you rotate the router while cutting a Dado or a groove, it will screw up the cut. Which leads to 4. I hold the router backwards if I'm holding the router against a guide (due to the flat on the base) and the nice handles feel really awkward! And lastly - 5. That 3-prong plug is a safety device - without it there is the "possibility" that you could get a shock in there were an electrical short or fault.

  • @FMunixxx

    @FMunixxx

    11 күн бұрын

    Double insulated tools don't require grounding pins. In general, I'd rather have a double insulated tool that isn't going to arc if it touches a live wire.

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