I wish GPU and CPU manufacturers went back to the efficiency battle instead of releasing 450W chunks of heat, combined with the increasing electricity prices, things are getting unreasonable. EDIT: Hey, thank you so much for all the engagement, I would have never thought of having a top coment with over 1000 likes on any LMG channel, yet here we are!!

@Sinaeb

2 жыл бұрын

*laughs in renewable*

@srproductions8798

2 жыл бұрын

Right...they can even reinvent the old gpus with smaller nodes so it would be available at a cheaper rate..while still pumping enough power to be useable for video editing

@NDM800

2 жыл бұрын

Efficiency is actually one of the reasons I play Minecraft on my m1 Mac mini, it doesn’t run nearly as well as my desktop but it’s good enough and sips power comparatively

@kirby0louise

2 жыл бұрын

@@srproductions8798 Terrible idea. New uarches provide improvements in perf/watt so you'd be a fool not to use them. If you need a super power efficient mobile GPU then you need to look at powerful iGPUs like Iris Xe, M1 and Radeon 600M

@YOEL_44

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sinaeb I live in Spain, we've been doing a massive push to get almost everything renewable, still, prices are going up

After seeing so many gaming laptop reviews it really makes you think how much GPU power makes a difference and how little the chip model says about its performance. The amount of 3080TI laptops that get outperformed by 3070TI variants and other weird stuff is pretty dissapointing

@AlwaysGrowing0

2 жыл бұрын

It is is the same for the 2000 series variants. I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T15 G1 with a RTX2070m. The RTX2070m performs better than the RTX2080m as the RTX2080m generates significantly more heat and the maximum power limits of laptops limit the 2080m's performance.

@Abel-Alvarez

2 жыл бұрын

So as RTX laptops go, the lower the series number, the better it performs to it's successors? 😅😉

@ArtflPhenix

2 жыл бұрын

@@Abel-Alvarez not really I think. I think the problem of nvidia 3080/xx80 is power and heat thats why the 3070/xx70 normally perform better. its like the 3070/xx70 is maximum performance a nvidia laptop can get

@mihailcirlig8187

2 жыл бұрын

@@ArtflPhenix I have a rtx 3070 laptop full power and it's amazing, with some under volt it goes super super well, at 1080p it's just overkill lol but good, it will last far more

@Deathdemon65

2 жыл бұрын

And cpus like how the i7 12700h beats the i9 12900h

Gaming laptops have gotten crazy in recent years, I see ones like the Legion 7 run the most demanding games like Cyberpunk just fine on max settings over 60fps. The only downside is thermal throttling, they seem to be purpose built to run at 90-95c but according to the manufacturer this is perfectly fine as long as it doesn't reach the tj max.

@BatLB

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah its fine in "it doesnt break immediately" but its not fine in regards to heatspikes crashing your system and longevity of parts. My MSI Raider with the 3080 crashed often and ran at 90-95 everytime I started any software, then I installed a bios and mb update and now its at 70-80 most of the time.

@Alex-nk8bw

2 жыл бұрын

Thermal throttling is often caused by low quality thermal paste. Really weird how maufacturers are trying to save money here, considering how expensive the components are. I managed to get my laptop down from >90° C (and throttling) to around 75° C (no throttling at all through hours of gaming) simply by repasting cpu & gpu with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@parkerhollingsed1192

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like the high temps are intentional. I have a 2021 blade 14 that used to thermal throttle at 101C constantly in every game. I complained to razer, and sent it in to get the thermal paste re applied now it averages 80C while gaming and sometimes breaks 85C in very demanding situations. Comparing my temps to reviewer temps, mine runs about 10 degrees or more cooler.

@mihailcirlig8187

2 жыл бұрын

@@parkerhollingsed1192 the only possible way to game for me on my Legion 5 is to disable the CPU turbo boost, instead of going always at 4,5 ghz on my ryzen 7 5800H I go at 3,2 and it is perfectly fine for me, also almost no performance loss, usually I have even better frames since I am not thermal throttling anymore, I have a max of 70 degrees in CPU demanding games sooo, very good.

@BionicXAngel

2 жыл бұрын

My Legion 5 Pro runs Cyberpunk easily above 60fps at 1600p and barely reaches 80°C. It's insane to think that a laptop can perform so well without exploding lmao.

I remember back in the old days where the 1060 and RX 480 were slugging it out for the $200 price point, providing stellar performance per dollar and per watt. The GTX 1080 that had no competition back then was heralded as a power sipping maestro, with the reference model shipping with an absolutely quaint by today's standard of a single 8 pin power connector and could be chillin under a blower cooler. Better times...

@somedude0921

2 жыл бұрын

Worse

@davidmalkowski7850

2 жыл бұрын

@@somedude0921 In absolute terms of performance, sure. But if you wanted something you could plug into even a power constrained or space constrained application, Pascal did it the best. There's a reason Jetson Nano still runs on Pascal graphics cores.

@thatguyrandomly460

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidmalkowski7850 If power constraints are the concern it would make more sense to run a 2070 then a 1080, 5 less tdp and a hair more performance. Or to actually get a 3060Ti and power limit it down to 180, as it only runs at 200 tdp noticeable performance improvements, assuming you have a 8+4 Pin

@TheRealSkeletor

2 жыл бұрын

The GTX 1080 had competition from the R9 295X2, but that AMD card was... not as energy efficient. 👀

@Spido68_the_spectator

2 жыл бұрын

RTX 2000 had same power consumption. With the 100$/€ tax of course.

Still waiting for a notebook with just APU but with full size pci-e slot at the bottom and with matching base station that you can just plop the notebook into and have a desktop. That would combine great portability and weight with amazing performance at home. (Yes I am aware that e-gpus exists but i couldn't find any good and recent resources that compare the fps and latency of them)

@joran4612

2 жыл бұрын

Egpus arent bad and are like 80% of the performance of normal

@sebastianjost

2 жыл бұрын

There are a few videos out there that compare eGPUs to desktop performance. Basically you give up quite a bit of gaming performance due to low bandwidth. The xG mobile eGPU from Asus is a bit more powerful than typical thunderbolt eGPUs because it adds extra bandwidth, but since that's still less than a desktop and only available with mobile GPUs, you still get less performance at a higher price. For the price of one xG mobile RTX 3080 eGPU, you can pretty much build a whole desktop PC with a RTX 3060 or even 3070.

@spunkmire2664

2 жыл бұрын

Back in the 90s Toshiba and Sony made a bunch of chunky addons that fit on the bottom of a notebook: adding hdds, cdroms, floppies. I’d go big chungus on my laptop to fit a full desktop card under it.

@Blooest

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe someday we'll see the return of PCMCIA/ExpressCard. Probably not, though.

@tlapik

2 жыл бұрын

​@@spunkmire2664 That would be an option aswell. But from my standpoint/situation I would prefer lighter, longer lasting laptop when I am not at home and gaming like performance at home. The best thing would be - if you already have desktop pc (like I do) you wouldn't need to buy a new GPU/PSU, just reuse the ones from your PC.

honestly i have a 1660ti laptop and it has been my introduction to pc gaming, it runs flawlessly almost every game i play at 144Hz, and more demanding ones manage a solid and stable 60 fps. i been quite happy for what i payed, 800 usd. i didn't go full on desktop bc the graphics alone in pc costed me 500 usd.

@realracer0353

2 жыл бұрын

My laptop has the same graphics as yours, cost me € 850.00 used and it runs GTA V and Online fine but it's really loud and sometimes it stutters to the point where it almost crashes or the game actually crashes

@realracer0353

2 жыл бұрын

@LunaticProgressMaker fyi I bought a OMEN By HP Valkyrie 15-inch gaming laptop and it also has a 144Hz 1080p display, AMD Ryzen 5 4600H (CPU with Radeon Graphics for some reason) and Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (GPU) with 16GB of RAM and a 477 GB (actually usable amount of storage) SSD

@hkoizumi3134

2 жыл бұрын

1660Ti mobile is basically a 980TI if I remember correctly. That GPU is still a viable one today. It was beast back in the day. But when it comes to the performance, resolution of the monitor is the biggest factor next to refresh rate.

@aelfwynn94

2 жыл бұрын

@@hkoizumi3134 tho I have gaming PC i like to take my laptop with me too but god my laptops GPU sucks

@amruzaky4939

2 жыл бұрын

Same, but mine's Lenovo Legion. Good piece. I just wish they give 3060 mobile more vram, I might consider saving up to buy the new 60 series.

The thing is that performance vs power usage is extremely non-linear. You need like double the power for that last 10-20 % performance increase. Just dropping that last increase and you can brand the same chip as a notebook GPU. Also, many lower end 'oversised' desktop cards are like oversised because it's hard, and thus expensive, to design everything in a tiny package.

I actually wound the video back to watch the sponsor ad after I reflexively skipped it. Never thought that would happen.

I'd be interested in seeing a vid on the evolution of internet speeds. How we went from dial-up to dsl to gig and the differences between the "speed" of down/upload and the bandwidth (I know a lot of people who don't know the difference) ie: having 1gb internet doesn't mean you get 1gb download speed on a game.

They need to change mobile gpu naming from 3070 onwards. Mobile 3060 is only 8% slower than desktop 3060, but mobile 3070 and 3080 is far off their desktop counterparts, so it’s very misleading for consumers

@RolandJVyens

2 жыл бұрын

130w 3060 laptop performs slightly faster than desktop 3060(the default version)

@Sol4rOnYt

2 жыл бұрын

@@RolandJVyens ah yes, logik

@Spido68_the_spectator

2 жыл бұрын

They used to add " M ", even back with RTX 2000...

@youreverydayshorts9283

2 жыл бұрын

Agree

@ZaHandle

Жыл бұрын

They’re kinda known for releasing older cards under a new name so this isn’t new to them Bad practice but can’t deny their GPUs are balling

Overall great video and idea, it's just when Riley says laptop users"take a little performance hit", then the numbers show ~50% reduction in base clock I would've rewrote that.

@yewtewb3628

2 жыл бұрын

They used to suffix the cards 'GTX 980M' for Mobile- now they don't. That's the only difference, more deception.

@ariavachier-lagravech.6910

2 жыл бұрын

That's clearly a joke from them Even at the end they joke about how the manufacturers could mislead the consumer by using the naming convention

@planefan082

2 жыл бұрын

​@@yewtewb3628 They're affixed with Mobile, plus it's common sense

@Olivia-W

2 жыл бұрын

​@@planefan082 They aren't? And how is having to hunt down spec sheets to find the exact wattage for a specific laptop model common sense? I've had to do this to help someone purchase a laptop recently.

@planefan082

2 жыл бұрын

@@Olivia-W I mean; 3060 Mobile means the 3060's specs with watered down TDP, 3080 Mobile means the 3080's specs with watered down TDP, etc

This was a helpful video. It answered a few basic questions many people have had without getting too bogged down in the details. Kudos to everyone involved with making it.

I have Acer Nitro 5 with GTX1650 and i playing Euro truck simulator 2. Whenever i play without charging adopters it shows 30fps and when plug into charge its jump to 60 plus. I don't know i should play with charging or without charge its good for the battery if i play with charged?

@mopeybloke

Жыл бұрын

Modern batteries don't suffer much from continuous plugged usage as was the case in the past. Usually the laptop will change to a more energy efficient, but lower power output mode when you unplug it from the wall, so performance will take a hit. BTW I have that same laptop, and yes, plugged is the way to go for gaming and performance demanding tasks. Press the Nitrosense button to keep an eye on your energy mode and component temperature.

Hello everyone. I need a help for a laptop (because I trip a lot and need to be mobile) to do the following things: AutoCad drawings for interior design and after that I will make 3D model of the place on 3D Smax and will have to do and rendering. Can you advice me what kind of a processor will be good and video card. Thanks !

-Laptops usually don't offer 4k. Normally 1080p, and sometimes 2k. -Running at 40-60fps is more than acceptable as a comprimise for laptop gamers. -And of course the reasons listed in this video.

@pableau5448

2 жыл бұрын

why would you think all laptop gamers a fine with 40-60 fps ? Most high end laptops can game at 2k with more than 144fps on most titles. With reasonable prices.

@gamingterrain3703

2 жыл бұрын

40-60? Hell no! Even modern budget gaming laptops can run most games at well over 60fps. We won't except that unless its a crazy demanding game like cyberpunk at max settings

@Sevastous

Жыл бұрын

@@gamingterrain3703 yes but we're talking about laptops. Cpu throttling at 95 celcius will make your 80fps max setting AAA title into 40 very fast (for my 3060 mobile 30 minutes to an hour)

What maccies you go to? Never had a big mac that looked that good.

Where does one find all the Specs on all these GPU variants in one discernable understandable List Example the difference between the TI and Straight version of any GPU etc?

4:10 after that, Techquickie received threats from both Big Mac and Apple

Hamburgers in ads are usually only half cooked to make them look bigger and juicier. Also carefully assembled to make it as pretty as possible, even adding the sesame seeds individually with a tweezers. And milk in ads is usually white paint.

But what if I want 4 rtx 4090 tis in my dell laptop 😡😡💢💢💢

@Hizsoo

2 жыл бұрын

This is madness!

@Malluc

2 жыл бұрын

Damn Bratty Dell......！！Too few GPU 💢💢💢 SLI Correction is needed.....

@GS12478

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe for 5k and fans louder than a jet engine 😂

@sebastianjost

2 жыл бұрын

Then you need a very big laptop... Or put a Dell desktop PC on your lap

@theplanetarian

2 жыл бұрын

@@Malluc lmao why

Solidworks sponsor. Wow that's a great achievement for the channel.

I'm guessing that there are also diminishing returns with higher TDPs on graphics cards? So a desktop card with a tdp of 300W won't be thrice as fast as a laptop equivalent card at 100W.

yeah my laptop is the same way, its an RTX 3050 but in its defense, GpuZ identifies as it as the mobile version. I think its just called RTX 3050 Ti Mobile. I also don't know what the difference is between it and the desktop version in terms of performance, all i know is it has 4gb of VRAM as opposed to 8 for the desktop version.

The problem is also that manufacturers don't ever undervolt, Ryzen doesn't allow it but you can usually undervolt the GPU, in my case my rtx 3070 performs better and draws far less power, I can't even max the 130w power limit since at roughly a 100w is all it needs to give it's full power. That's one problems I don't ever see being spoken about

I think rtx 3060 is perfect for a laptop being its performance is close to its desktop counterpart and more power efficient.

@Sol4rOnYt

2 жыл бұрын

yep

@saricubra2867

2 жыл бұрын

The only downside is VRAM, 6GB? WTF NVIDIA, and RTX3050 mobile is 4GB vs 8GB for desktop lol.

@blandon93

2 жыл бұрын

@@saricubra2867 yeah but if they put 6x 2 gigs of vram it might get much hotter in there, and the gpu is supposed to grab almost all of heatsink capacity.

@saricubra2867

2 жыл бұрын

@@blandon93 Since when RAM sticks or chips get hot? lol.

@blandon93

2 жыл бұрын

@@saricubra2867 since gddr6

i have one big question i want you help answer. which is better an old flagship gaming pc or a new budget gaming pc... both being around the same price today??????

@6210classick

2 жыл бұрын

new budget

You now have to make sure you are getting the full power version of the card in a laptop. A bunch of laptops have lowered the power of the cards for cooling or efficiency reasons.

@starvinghub

5 ай бұрын

Lenovo sweep fr

some kind of revolution in tech must happen for a current high end discrete gpu to fit in a laptop

@FinalManaTrigger

2 жыл бұрын

Cooling. Many laptops already have thermal problems and throttle down under normal/moderate use simply because they pack as much as they can into as small of a chassis they can, which leads to insufficient cooling. Then you want to add a power hungry, hot running GPU on top of that... So that's what it is, a balance between size and performance because of thermals. If you notice, the gaming laptops are always chunkier...

@mihailcirlig8187

2 жыл бұрын

@@FinalManaTrigger the problem is also that manufacturers don't ever undervolt, Ryzen doesn't allow it but you can usually undervolt the GPU, in my case my rtx 3070 performs better and draws far less power, I can't even max the 130w power limit since at roughly a 100w is all it needs to give it's full power. That's one problems I don't ever see being spoken about

@rubiconnn

Жыл бұрын

This technological revolution is called making the laptop a few mm thicker. Laptop thickness really doesn't matter unless it's absolutely huge and many laptop manufacturers are pretty bad about making efficient use of space.

@heroninja1125

5 ай бұрын

​@@rubiconnnfunny you mention that. Acer has many 15.6 inch laptops in the aspire series that cost over $1000. Yet they all have puny 40-51 watt hour batteries. A thinner smaller MacBook Air has a bigger battery then most of them

There was me just three ago had a issue with power but I did not know that. We check everything. But then I thought why does it goes off when I am gaming for some time; maybe there was an issue with the temperature; although it was the temperature but in the end we found out that GPU was drawing too much power than it should because it was heating everything too much, the maximum power it was sucking was 300-400 watt So we just had to get a new computer overall- as it was already almost five years ago. There was no warranty. And I only had 700W

The problem is that it overheats so badly. I can play arma 3 and insurgency sandstorm at a respectable framerate. Along with games like cyberpunk 2077 and more on high with good frames. I went with a laptop cooler for the better cooling.

@kupokinzyt

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2080ti in my Asus laptop and it never gets hot. I max cyberpunk with RTX on.

@timserious7678

2 жыл бұрын

depends on laptop laptops with better cooling will ne more expensive at same specs

@ruukinen

2 жыл бұрын

@@kupokinzyt Press X to doubt.

@DonCristian_DPB

2 жыл бұрын

What laptop cooler did you purchase?

@Abel-Alvarez

2 жыл бұрын

Here's a trick, raise the laptop even just a few inches off of a flat surface. You'd be surprised how much of a cooling difference it makes.

What the best thick laptop now these days? I haven't look into them long time

I was curious about this, nice

a video on laptop wifi cards! how do they work, how are they different from desctop, can they be changed out? and if so can you put a wifi 6 card in a laptop that originally had a wifi 4 card in it? and what other things does one need to keep in mind when shopping for a replacement you always talk about one being a card is a good thing, tell us why!

@mrkitty777

2 жыл бұрын

Some manufacturers have a whitelist of wifi cards that work in the laptop, other manufacturers don't use such list. Looking for other people who've replaced to a better WiFi is recommended.

@rishitkhanna336

2 жыл бұрын

Wifi cards don't exist any more cuz now motherboards have integrated wifi cards.

@mingyi456

2 жыл бұрын

@@rishitkhanna336 Even some motherboards hat advertise integrated wifi use a wifi card on a m.2 key e slot.

@mrkitty777

2 жыл бұрын

@@mingyi456 that's the WiFi cards i meant, very tiny little, but also the number of antennas connectors should be equal. Most have 2 or more antennas connectors and laptop has these wires in the frame.

What If they just used the same gpu that was downclocked on battery power but used the full wattage when plugged in to an outlet?

I actually use MSI afterburner to undercooked the power load my 3070 is getting while gaming. It doesn't need all that power. You can play games on 90%, 80%, 70% power.

Yeah the power brick on my work Dell G15 Ryzen w/ the 3060 is a chonk. The weight and bulk of the whole setup reminds me of friends’ parents’ laptops in the late 90s

My laptop 3080ti has 16gb vram … how’s that less than the desktop variant?

so it's save to say that my legion 5 rtx3060, ryzen 5700 300 watt is a good value right

Informative video, but I didn't get what I wanted to know. Is the visual quality of games is the same between Laptops and Desktops? Ex: Ultra RTX settings (Desktop 3070ti) = Ultra RTX settings (Laptop 3070ti) ?

I wished they wouldn't have 75W be the standard for the Max Q varient as well they need to bring the naming back, so that way people wouldn't get tricked into buying a lower end varient.

what i'm always wondering is how can laptops get enough airflow... since most of their fans are underneath not above

@Zxanonblade

5 ай бұрын

That's the thing... they don't really get enough air lol. That's why gaming laptops aren't recommended as they thermal throttle quickly.

That's why I love laptops! Portable and power efficient. They max out at a couple of hundred watts, which is half that of a big PC

since the dies, VRAM. and VAM (I think VAM is the right word) are still small, they can have the same GPU. technically.

I have serveral laptops and I've used some powerful desktops and what i noticed in regards to laptops is they come out the box set to produce the most power to get the most out of the cpu and gpu but this causes more heat that can lead to pre mature failure what ive done to fix this issue is changing the power registry and disabling boost processor power mode when plugged in and turned processor power minimum when plugged in to 100% and maximum both to 100% not only do i run badly optimized games that would reach close to 92c at 60c now but even emulators that would start up sounding like a jet was taking off run at around 45c max when they were😮 running at 90c and this was tested with a low end laptop that got bad reviews ive seen no performance loss and ive been happy with my laptop running cool and being able to llay games without checking the temps every 5 min.

A video about big mag pictures compare to real world would be great 😁

What I look for in a GPU in order of importance: Cost / Performance , Power Efficiency , Noise . I want a GPU that will provide the greatest bang for my buck. I want a GPU that won't require more then two 8-pin connectors. I want a GPU with a quiet air cooler.

@CLfreak246

2 жыл бұрын

With the latest generation of GPUs around the corner, the way of the 8-pin connectors may become endangered by the 12- or 16-pin connectors.

@eastcoastoverlord

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck on that 2 8-pin one

Very interesting. Thank you!

but how to know for sure about the laptop you mean to buy?

Riley always puts a smile on my face

Laptop GPU: techquickie Desktop GPU: techbiggie

@MadBlazer89

2 жыл бұрын

lol

Thank you for the video!

Hey guys does gaming while connected to the wall socket too much kills or damage the Laptop battery ?

@youreverydayshorts9283

2 жыл бұрын

Nah its straight to the laptop machine not the battery laptop!

0:02 acer predator 21 x disagrees with this... it's old now with 1080s but it's been done :)

If I got a gaming laptop can I consistently upgrade the GPU ?

I gist what to know what is a graghics card

It is very old information that power supplies work best at 50% load. Most high quality power supplies nowadays have rather flat efficiency curve. For example my psu has perhaps 1% efficiency difference between 10% load and 50% load.

i still remember those things where egpus are a thing

Maybe the next time a video about Thunderbolt (GPUs)

My pc has a wattage consumption of 641w at full load. I have a 750w psu is that too low? Should I be aiming for 1200w?

@carlostejeda4341

2 жыл бұрын

Well it depends on the quality of the PSU if you got a quality one with over 90% efficiency (do not believe the 80 plus stickers, check elsewhere) that shouldn't be a major problem but that will force it a bit, nothing to worry about.

@riba2233

2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure it does?

@carlostejeda4341

2 жыл бұрын

@@riba2233 considering that the consumption stated is at full load, you still have some leeway to not force the PSU even reaching full, but I may recommend you to change your PSU if it has low quality or you force your PC to the max constantly, if that's not the case, it's totally ok with the one already installed.

@kev1310

2 жыл бұрын

You are fine bozo stop wasting money

@riba2233

2 жыл бұрын

@@carlostejeda4341 no I was just asking op if that is really his consumption, not some value from calculators.

During 2019 I bought an Asus tuf fx504gm, it thermal throttle like crazy until during January of this year when it no longer wanted to boot. I've should bought a desktop instead.

As a laptop gamer, I love small power units :) the future is bright! But or course I respect the big boys on the desktop

One point to clarify, TDP isn't the amount of power a card consumes. And typically there is no power in the calculation of TDP.

I still can't get over how much power my 3050 equipped laptop has.

Is a gaming laptop a better offer compared to a gaming prebuilt pc in 2022? I’m Just wondering which one serves a better Price to Performance ratio right now.

@ilovefunnyamv2nd

2 жыл бұрын

you're still better off building a pc yourself, as far as price : performance goes. Dell has competitive pricing, but I can't recommend them, and you know they'll upcharge you for antivirus, and try to sell you on financing

@pableau5448

2 жыл бұрын

if you don't need the main argument for a laptop, portability, don't get a laptop. If you do, mid and high end laptop are usually 110% fine for gaming performances now, but you will get most performance for your money with a desktop. Laptop are also great if you can't afford (and don't already have) all the matching peripherals (a high refresh rate screen, a keyboard, wifi...), as most gamin laptops offer really great high refresh rate screen already. So if you don't absolutely need one don't get one, but if you do, it's more than fine anyways.

Brother, In what all tasks does 6gb 3050 GPU has better performance than 4gb 3050

1080 vs 3080 mobile GPUs is just another example of the absolute superiority that Pascal had over what came before and after.

I have a laptop but no Max-Q Nvidia. So what do I have?

I'm interested in the rog strix g15 advantage edition laptop with ryzen 9 5900hx and rx 6800m. The rx 6800m lies between rtx 3070ti mobile and rtx 3080 mobile (closer to 3080). I was wondering if there was a way to compare laptop gpus to desktop gpus so i could get a rough estimate on whether it would be more beneficial to build a pc instead. Like will a desktop 3060ti beat the laptop 150w tgp rx 6800m?

@Tushar_Talwar_09

2 жыл бұрын

@Defective Degenerate did you even read my question? I hate people who state the obvious and then pretend like they're adding something to the conversation. I know that laptop gpus are cut down and i know a laptop should only be chosen if mobility is necessary. Now if you know how to compare a laptop gpu to a desktop gpu in some sort of tier list then only answer or else please remain quiet.

@mihailcirlig8187

2 жыл бұрын

@Defective Degenerate wait, a 3070 laptop full power is roughly a 3060ti desktop, not bad at all, the only problem is that you must not make it overheat and downclock, if you undervolt it should be constantly close to an rtx 3060ti

It's crazy to think that 2012 was 10 years ago. My brain still thinks we are in 2016.

recently got a zephyrus g14 2022 6700s and i love it

"Why do that when you can mislead the consumer". Which is exactly why they do it.

I believe Desktops should follow the path of Gaming Laptops. I've seen 3080 Mobile running with 40% less fps with half of Power draw in the same spec Desktop Setup. Regarding the way Desktop Architecture slowly ignoring the efficiency should be stopped. otherwise one day we all might need a 1000W+ PSU to run decent AAA games on a Desktop.

@turbotechdevs7912

2 жыл бұрын

Bro 1000w is required for the new nvidia cards. They are 1000w least required with 3090 ti. I think the new gpu which came has required 1000w psu.

I still feel that the naming of mobile gpus should reflect the equivalent desktop gpu that matches it's performance. So maybe that mobile 3080TI should be called a 3070 for non technical people looking what to buy.

still flat pins is at disadvantage of GPU cards and it often easy to get broke and of course it's because Modern moderboard GPU sockets are not upgrading either hoping for something like audio jack like socket or HDMI or something even better that looks pretty solid tsk

I really wish manufacturers would make A thin version of a gaming laptop and a thicker version with the same specs Why, so it doesn’t thermal throttle

@mrbobgamingmemes9558

Жыл бұрын

Isnt asus zephyrus and strix is basically just that . Are you talking about similar design ?

The trick is to look at the full specs. And how much power the GPU ends up with

make a video about tablets being used as computers

Thanks Riley!

I'm watching this video on my workstation laptop rocking a Nvidia T1200 :D yay confusing mobile gpus. (though I really don't need it to game, I just need it to do a LOT of stuff at the same time)

Thank you!!! I have been one of those consumers that struggled with understanding that misnamed GPUs

When i bought my legion5 everyone was shocked by how big is the powersupply lmao

Never had a gaming laptop until I picked up an Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 for $899. The amount of power this thing has in such a small package is insane. Plus it is my college, work, gaming and coding all-in-one.

Because I'm in school and needed portability, I did go for a gaming laptop. It's honestly amazing! The only downside is the battery isn't that great! 😭 But I usually have a power outlet, so that's alright.

My theory on how they can be so slim is because of Slim Shady. The rap singer.

My i7 8750 and GTX 1070 still hold up great. I don't see myself upgrading for another year or two, I don't care about raytracing and 4K that much. I can wait...

Gaming laptops' efficiency are at peak on the RTX 20-Series. Given the limited space of standard laptops, adding more power to it doesn't really equate to higher performance neither efficiency anymore.

I love my legion 5. It was under $800 and has a GTX 1650ti. No ray tracing or anything but I get 100 fps in games like prey and borderlands at the highest settings. Of course rocket league gets a couple hundred. My display is 1080p so I don't need 1440

Here’s my question @techquickie; How come devices show a different amount of storage? (Eg if a phone on the box says 128 gb but when you turn it on it has less than that)

@l9arves

2 жыл бұрын

system lol

@Cameron_7127

2 жыл бұрын

Your os takes up some of that storage 💀

@agcz789

2 жыл бұрын

The OS takes a lot of the memory, my Poco X3 Pro has 256GB but the system takes almost 14GB

@trajectoryunown

2 жыл бұрын

When you get a new drive they often are unformatted, meaning it's entirely blank. A blank drive will have all of the data available but it might not even be recognized by your operating system. This is why you'll see a bunch of reviews on flash drives and whatnot that say they flat out don't work. When a drive has a file system written to it, the thing that tells your computer how data is intended to be organized on and read from the drive, that takes up a certain amount of storage space. So there's that, but the big thing is the discrepancy between definitions of the units that define storage capacity. Growing up I learned a kilobyte is 1024 bytes, megabyte is 1024 kilobytes, etc. However, somewhere along the line, and maybe I was misinformed initially, this became known as a kibibyte, mebibyte, gibibyte, and the metric prefixes have reverted to their true metric definition of multiples of 1000. However, here's the issue. Computers operate in powers of 2 because they are binary and not metric. They therefore don't even register the concept of a Gigabyte. This difference isn't immediately noticeable to most people until you start dealing with larger capacity drives where the difference after conversion is compounded to a rather abhorrent degree. Here's an example: 1000 Gigabytes is 1,000,000,000,000 bytes. So you buy a 1TB drive, plug it in, and you see 931.323GB. How can this be? Well, your computer doesn't see Gigabytes(1000MB). It doesn't understand that. It sees Gibibytes(1024MB). A conversion of units has taken place. 1000 Gigabytes is equal to 931.323 Gibibytes. Problem solved. I'd personally argue this is tantamount to false advertisement. It's deceptive advertisement at absolute best that utilizes a number system most people are familiar with instead if what's actually utilized by their computers. I would assume manufacturers save money on production costs as well. After all, they've effectively duped us out of nearly 7% of the storage capacity that we understood we were getting. We as consumers should really demand that drive capacity be listed with the appropriate unit of measurement. (This is my current understanding if this subject. Please, someone who is actually knowledgeable about this stuff, let me know if I'm too far off. I don't want to spread misinformation.)

@Cameron_7127

2 жыл бұрын

@@trajectoryunown 💀

that Asus zephyrus with the 3060 looked pretty sweet

@kanshashiteiru6552

2 жыл бұрын

But I don’t recommend it, I remember that the maximum power of the GPU was 100W 🫤

I thought NVidia used the tag "Max-Q" to distinguish laptop GPUs from the desktop counterpart. That was an easy naming scheme that lets buyers know it's not exactly the same as the original GPU it was based on. Sad they phased that out.

@cerberusshepard433

2 жыл бұрын

my current laptop the has the 2070Max Q designation makes finding info on it a breeze and i agree they should have kept it

@Syrenite

2 жыл бұрын

From what I've learned, Max-Q is indeed Laptop/Mobile only, but it is a lower-power variant of the Laptop versions. I have a 2070 in my laptop, which is faster and uses more power than a 2070 Max-Q, but is still different from a desktop 2070 (it might also contain less CUDA cores in addition to lower clocks, but that depends on the specific model I believe)

@wades623

2 жыл бұрын

For laptops there was max q and max p so there were different options for them

Are there external mobile GPUs you can hook to a laptop and get PC-gaming performance?

@chrisrichfield8906

2 жыл бұрын

The Asus rog flow x13 and z13 can connect to Asus proprietary external gpu called the ROG XG Mobile. It has a 3080 inside, but its quite expensive.

@gidi1899

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisrichfield8906 thanks, very cool.

@niebuhr6197

2 жыл бұрын

External ones are worse than internal. Thunderbolt massively bottlenecks the gpu. Only one worthy is thag Asus "tablet" which has a propietary connector to aliviate the problem and are expensive as fuck. In other words internal are way better.

i run a 4k 120hz oled tv with my 3080 desktop mostly play cod, and i have a 3080 244hz or something laptop 1080p i couldnt stand it so i got the 4k 60hz 3080 laptop (gigabyte aorus and aero i think) and i guess im content when in a pickle with it, but the 4k laptop still only gets like 50-60 fps while my desktop gets 100-120. both laptops fans loud af tho to the point its concerning so i prop it up on something when gaming.

i have a gtx 1650 mobile and it runs smooth never had a problem on gta v (pretty demanding game) it only goes up to 80 celcius and it mostly keeps at 60-75c ive got a ryzen 5 also and that also never had a problem 8 gigs of ram stuttering stopped recently ive not had a stuttering game in a while (yes even gta v)

The problem is they reduce the power used instead of increasing the performance further and matching the same power usage on desktop versions. It's not that we got desktop performance on laptops. We got laptop performance on desktops but it's disguised as the opposite thing.

My laptop 3080 is absolutely not as powerful as a desktop 3080, and I never expected it to be. However, it has 16GB of VRAM versus what I believe to be 10GB in its desktop counterpart. How on earth did that happen?

@theodentherenewed4785

3 ай бұрын

Only 3080 ti laptop had 16 GB of VRAM and it was the fastest mobile GPU at the time, hence the increased memory capacity. it had quite a bit of a price premium over 3080 laptop, so the extra memory was supposed to justify what you were paying for.

“Consumed less power” Rtx3090: hey

I just wanted to note the fact you called the savvy builder a she and I gotta say I appreciate that. as a girl I see too much people assume everyone who's into computers is a guy. great to see this

@100Underscores

2 жыл бұрын

The right way would be not to specify

This video also works as an advertisement for underclocking your GPU.

This is the PERFECT moment. Im gonna need a rig for solidworks. Laptop vs desktop. Budget around 1500. Any recommendations or specs. *note: only need it for ONE year. For the laptop i'll only be running solidworks. If a Pc, The pc, solidworks and daily browsing, maybe light gaming.

@TAP7a

2 жыл бұрын

Desktop. With that budget you could probably get either a 12700 or 5800X tier CPU from either vendor, but the important part will be the graphics. If you're only running solidworks seriously, then you'll want to go for either a Quadro card from Nvidia (probably the A2000) or a Radeon Pro from AMD (probably a WX 7100 or thereabouts). The Nvidia one is more likely to have received special attention from both Nvidia and Solid Solutions to absolutely guarantee its performance in Solidworks. Past that, focus on getting as much DDR4 as you can get your hands on. It won't need to be blazing fast, you just a large quantity of it, like 32GB+. With this system, prioritise the GPU from a professional line first, the memory quantity second, and then everything else only needs to be like mid tier at best latest gen and compatible

@brocktechnology

2 жыл бұрын

I don't really want to disagree with TAP7a because they sound like they know what there talking about but I believe any current enterprise segment GPU is going over your budget by it's self and I think in your first year your not going to learn how to stress an entry level gaming GPU in the $500 range. I'm assuming your new to solidworks or you wouldn't be asking.

@arturiskrzycki9726

2 жыл бұрын

I have been using solidworks for the past 2 years on a light basis in school, but i will have final exams (high school) where it would be beneficial to have solidworks at home. Thats why i need it for one year (at least). I need it to be able to do the basics, such as 3d modeling and assemblies. The realistic rendering will most likely be done with the school pc. THANKS

They say demanding titles and show Rainbow six siege a game my old gtx660 manages 60fps at 1440p