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Mike Florio and Chris Simms sift through the Jets' move to trade Zach Wilson to the Broncos and explain how Sean Payton will be able to teach him things he hasn't learned yet. #ProFootballTalk #NFL #DenverBroncos
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Denver Broncos trading for Zach Wilson is a 'perfect situation' | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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Sean Payton said Nathaniel Hackett did the worst coaching job ever then took essentially the same team and won twice as many games. Now Payton is upping the ante and taking the QB (Zach Wilson) that Hackett could not get to produce, just to prove a point that Hackett is trash. 😂😂
@hrebec97
Ай бұрын
Really good analogy
@antoniotrevino5785
Ай бұрын
@@hrebec97didn’t Hackett go to Denver and beat the broncos? This roster is also worse than last season and guys coming back like Sutton are sitting out …
@Sinistatnt
Ай бұрын
Yup. This gives us an opportunity to test the waters with Zach Wilson & also if it doesn’t pan out; we can see this as a “Tank for Shadeur Sanders” kind of season. We go Offensive line or try for Bowers in this draft; perhaps pick up Rattler as another option to compete. If it doesn’t work out we should be in decent position for Sanders.
@verdugo2043
Ай бұрын
He was ass before Hackett tho 😂
@jacobsims8307
Ай бұрын
If denver is on the list his daddy says he can play. Considering the turd of a franchise theyve been with a coach that ONLY won bc of bounty gate, that's unlikely. @@Sinistatnt
From being a New Yorker and just watching and reading stuff from various people I don’t like how Zach’s career turned out as the NFL and also the media have a BIG hand in ruining these young QB’s for sure! Zach had no offensive line, no separating receivers and not even a running game to help with pressure off of him or play action where his strength really lies! I hope he gets a chance to improve and then show out cause he got a raw start in the Jets!
@ccwalker050
28 күн бұрын
To your point, Wilson torched our ass when the Jets came to Denver last year and beat the Broncos. I know the NY media can be hard on anybody in sports but I think if he is given a decent OL and a decent running game he has the potential to light it up with receivers that can get open. Denver has receiver that can get open so we'll see. I'm willing to give the kid a chance.
Zach had moments of brilliance in New York. I hope Sean Payton can bring those out of him in Denver and then he does well. Interesting experiment.
Zach first game, in NFL, in Sept. 2021, on the road, against Carolina with top defense and Zach throws for 250 yards and 2TD's. He earned every penny that day. 3 wins in 2021 was wonderful in spite that Jets defense let Zach down in 2021, giving up 29 points per game. Zach throws better than Bo Nix and Penix Jr. and runs as good as Nix as well; so Zach still top 5 QB in any draft.
@D_Corleone
Ай бұрын
He is also a few months younger than penix and Bo👀
Glad that Zack Wilson can go to a team that will make the effort to revive his career. QBs should stop reporting to teams like the Jets that can't develop these players. Teams like the Jets are where careers go to die.
@Drewswaggy
Ай бұрын
If they don’t report, they don’t get paid….. this is a business at the end of the day. Most aren’t playing for a legacy. They need that money.
@johndellorusso9936
Ай бұрын
How many chances can a team give a guy? 😂 the jets gave the dude so many chances.
@trentwise3762
Ай бұрын
He had 3 entire years to make even a slightly good impression. And that was on a jets team who actually tried to contend unlike basically every other jets team over the past decade
@DWoodsII
Ай бұрын
Yeah let’s put ALL the blame on the jets
@legitdragon6202
Ай бұрын
Nah at some point a dude is just a bust. He wasn't in greatest situation, but was never consistently good or great on his own either and contributed plenty to Jets being bad.
I’ve written it ad nauseum but I watched Zach Wilson’s Pro Day (PD) multiple times several years ago. It was mesmerizing. He really reminded me of Aaron Rodgers and from a passing perspective I can’t think of anyone who’s as close as Aaron, at least mechanically. At least Zach was but I think he lost his Mojo. But I’m really glad he was traded now because the clock was ticking. If he went another year in New York he was finished. Now it doesn’t mean I think Zach will succeed. But if he gets the support and encouragement he needs he MIGHT get his Mojo back. And if he does it could bd impressive. I’d put it at 3 to 1 though that he becomes a star only because of what’s happened. (I’m a Broncos Hater and I’m not really a Zach fan although I thought he was fun to watch a few years ago. So I don’t really have skin in this game.)
@Sinistatnt
Ай бұрын
Much respect
@TheHighlanderprime
Ай бұрын
Jets ruined him more so than him being bad. He’s really as bad as the Jets handled him. So it’s unfair to keep bullying him into the ground.
@nnjjee1
Ай бұрын
None of that matters. If he doesn’t have it between the ears (judgement, quick & correct decisions) it doesn’t matter
@lonestarpatriot876
Ай бұрын
Dead on. He had one of the best, if not the best, Pro Day I have ever seen out of a QB. He absolutely has tools in spades. Hopefully, Payton can get him straightened out.
@andyprem
Ай бұрын
Aaron Rogers .. are you high ?
Always assuming these rookie draft picks are way better than they probably are. I don’t see anyway a qb outside of the top 2 or 3 starts over Stidham or Wilson
@user-zr4km5ns8t
Ай бұрын
The media is too lazy to do 5 minutes worth of research & look up the fact that Payton ignored three rookie hotshot QBs in 2006 when he signed Brees instead. That was 2006 Brees...who most people thought was at the end of his career after a major shoulder injury only 3 months earlier & with one good year on his 5 year resume. In other words...Payton doesn't like rookie QBs, let alone having to draft one in the first round.
I have been a long time Jets fan, who was completely delighted when the Jets drafted Zach Wilson. At the time Robert Salah said words to the effect of "You won't have to put the Jets on your back, we will do what we are supposed to." If only that actually occurred. 30 Years of pathetic Woody Johnson ownership in which Quarterbacks were NEVER developed properly, one regime after the next, with this the latest fiasco epitomizing the TOTAL lack of leadership he has consistently accomplished. Joe Douglas, a former OL himself, shouted out how the OL would be fixed when he arrived five years ago...NEVER happened. The OC's play calling: 1st Down run, 1yd. 2nd Down Run, another yard. 3rd and 8 Zach now you can throw... and here comes the D lineman with their ears pinned back through the porous OL... with Zach always running for his life. The Fans absorb all of this and howl Zach you SUCK! The Jet You Tube creators abandon all discernment in favor of pandering to the mob and their clicks. The National press get their cues on the short bus. When Zach had a pocket he made so many thrilling plays and throws and after everything else, absorbed more drops from the assorted lame ass receivers than damn near any other QB in football, not to mention endless boneheaded drive killing penalties from veterans and rookies alike. All of this as a 21 year old, 22 year old, 23 year old. As if Woody Johnson, Joe Douglas, Salah, the OC's and other coaches EVER accomplished anything near as much as Zach at that age. They all hid behind his skirts like the pansies they all are. Zach was by far the most likeable Jet, enduring intense negativity, holding his head high and soldiering on. Sean Payton has done far more than any of the incompetent Jet Management and Coaching Structure. Of all the QB's he could have pursued under the present Bronco circumstances, he has the Judgement and wisdom to see the wheat from the chaff. Zach will flourish with Sean Payton and the Broncos will have years of success with those two together.
@mickepperson1187
Ай бұрын
Yes.
I watched Zach highlights and he is not a bad qb just needs more development in his game. He have a strong arm and his accuracy is good too especially in college so Sean sees something within him so if we don't draft a qb this year, Zach will be the starter its crazy but what else can go wrong?
@trentwise3762
Ай бұрын
Well that’s what happens when you watch highlights. They show the best of the player. But in games he is making bad reads, bad decisions, throwing to absolutely no one.
@91ericman
Ай бұрын
Yeah I know Zach is a beast and he has swag and if you watch his lowlights some of them throws are good plays smart plays and also receivers dropping the pass I think this is perfect he gives his receivers opportunities to make plays by throwin 50/50's and takin chances that's the quarterback I want
@MU-nf9tl
Ай бұрын
@@trentwise3762given he was top 10 in on target% for QBs who played double digit games, that wasn’t true this year.
@latkagravas986
Ай бұрын
Its his confidence and his head.
Why does the Broncos GM George Paton still have a job??
@cesarelias3021
Ай бұрын
I honestly don't have a clue...we are a laughing stock of a team
@D_Corleone
Ай бұрын
Because he has an eye for talent in the draft but as a Denver fan ill say his struggles are Contracting players and Signing old vets to big deals in free agency which hasn’t worked out for us but man, Ps2 Javonte, browning, Cooper were all players he drafted in his first year with denver (2021) turned out well for us
@db212006
Ай бұрын
Because he's great at drafting, He took a shot with Wilson. He swung on a vet QB. I don't think anyone really knew how shitty Russ was at QB and as a person, but the Seahawks. The biggest thing was the contract given to Russ. WHICH was forced by the owners not the GM. That's why he still has a job. Hope that answer's your question.
@cesarelias3021
Ай бұрын
Keep that same energy when we suck next year
I would love to see Payton revive Wilson's career just so the Jets would look foolish. I'm actually happy for the young man to get a new start in Denver. So the Jets have Aaron Rodgers and Tyrod Taylor on their roster now. Let's hope Aaron can produce this year while the hunt for the next franchise quarterback continues.
@DanielCalzacorta-ip2xe
Ай бұрын
Payton is the conductor of the train wreck known as the Broncos. He ruins qbs. He's not reviving anyone's careers
@charlespapineau5428
Ай бұрын
@@DanielCalzacorta-ip2xe How about Drew Brees?
@ramonejones6749
Ай бұрын
@@charlespapineau5428Hackett produced Arron rodgers who’s better than bres
I saw someone on Bleacher say that Wilson is one of the biggest busts of all time which is insane. No accountability for the team being so dysfunctional and doing a terrible job supporting him. And he wasn’t even that bad Jesus Christ
@darnell16player
Ай бұрын
Agreed and I can say the same thing about Trey Lance though we don’t have enough of a sample size as people assume way too much on him!
One this people don’t realize nowadays is it takes time to develop these QBs Zach Wilson is a better Alex smith as of there first 3 seasons smith came to KC and developed and became a pro bowler smith in his first 3 seasons throw for 19 tds to 31 picks and 4500ish yards.
People are mocking my hometown team for this trade. But taking a flyer on a number 2 pick. for late round swaps, and they pay half the bill.
This doesn't effect our draft plans in my opinion. As a die-hard BRONCOS fan I really like this trade. Low risk and possible high reward. I'm not saying I'm a Zach Wilson fan. But, he was drafted # 2 for a reason. Gives Stidham competition and hopefully we can get rid of DeNucci and have a solid back-up for years to come.
Zach Wilson hasn’t had a Top 10 Wide Receiver or a Top 19 Offensive Line in any of his 3 seasons. Zach Wilson has had 3 Different Offensive Coordinators in 3 Years. There is no reason to think that in a better situation Zach Wilson couldn’t be successful. That doesn’t mean he WILL be successful. But be open to the possibility. Geno Smith, Ryan Tannehill…it has happened before.
@andyprem
Ай бұрын
what about Garrett Wilson? and what do you think he will have in Denver ? coconuts
@mikeadamsfootball
Ай бұрын
@@andyprem Garrett Wilson hasn’t ranked in the top 10 yet. 🤷🏻♂️ Best he did was 2022 when he ranked at 15th. Last year the Broncos offense was 24th in receiving, Jets were 30th. Neither is great, but Broncos were better. Plus, Sean Payton > Robert Saleh. Let me put it this way, if Wilson can’t get it together in Denver, then he’s not going to be successful anywhere. But in Denver at least he’ll have a chance. He was never going to be successful with the Jets. I wish we would have got more than 4 plays of Aaron Rodgers last year, because I’m not convinced the season would have been that much better.
Love watching these guys have to cover and spin a story they said would "never" happen in someone trading for Wilson.
The fact that Zach is only 24 and has that much experience...This guy is playdoe in Sean's hand!
If Chris Simms was on the Titanic, he would be telling everyone that the ship was fine, to go back to sleep.
Yeah it was so dang smart!!! I guess Paxton Lynch was busy or something. They could have signed him, he was the same caliber of quarterback.
The Jets have always been a hot mess as an organization with the exception of the Parcell Years and the first 2 years of the Rex Ryan era. Zach Wilson needs a coach that can bring him along and rebuild his self confidence. Bo Nix is till the best fit in my opinion for the Sean Payton system.
Payton is not the QB whisperer. When he had Brees in NO, Brees already had an established career in San Diego. You wanna say Winston? Fine. But name another QB that Payton had as a rookie and turned him into a great QB.
@kylekitzman
Ай бұрын
He didn't have the opportunity. Brees played for over a decade. Sean led the NFL in total offense in 11 of his 13 seasons. I'll take my chances. Sean gives any young quarterback a fighting chance. Hate away, though.
@anirm3991
Ай бұрын
What if you are so good at your job as OC, you have 1 QB who consistently is top5 in every category and you just don't need a rookie QB? You can knock him for not finding Brees 2.0 but don't discount what he did because he never developed a rookie lol
@DanielCalzacorta-ip2xe
Ай бұрын
Payton is a train wreck. Qbs go to him to self-destruct. I bet Russell does just fine with the steelers.
@TheHighlanderprime
Ай бұрын
Not true. Brees peaked under Payton not because he was that good.
@kylekitzman
Ай бұрын
@@DanielCalzacorta-ip2xe Russell Wilson’s numbers went from dead last to 15 under Sean Peyton. You guys really will just say whatever the fuck you want without any context or reason.
Watch Zach somehow have a resurrection of his career lol
@philabul
Ай бұрын
nope
@5280Misfit
Ай бұрын
@@philabul of course not, the Broncos are drafting Bo Nix. It would be gut wrenching to the jets if SP turned Z. Wilson around though lol
@baileygreene2280
Ай бұрын
I doubt it, but watch everyone be wrong and they make the playoffs with Zach Wilson. He's got talent but his footwork and mechanics are god awful. If nothing else he's not a bad backup. Really hope this isn't the Broncos plan for next season but maybe Sean thinks he's a miracle worker.
@motivatedt9926
Ай бұрын
Keep dreaming 😂
@5280Misfit
Ай бұрын
@@motivatedt9926 I love how literally all of yall missed the key word “SOMEHOW”
4:10 I think that ship has sailed Mike!
@sharonreel8678
Ай бұрын
That Woody and the Jets already look like idiots? Agree!!
Mark my words Zach will end up starting in Denver and he's going to light it up. It has nothing to do with Sean Payton. Zach has an arm and in Denver he will have weapons. If the OL protects he will succeed. He's been given a second chance. Wait for it....
@MichaelPierce-hd1ow
29 күн бұрын
I think so too, and that will be really fun to watch. It will be interesting to see the ramifications of the aftermath of the Russell Wilson contract play out as Bo Nix will be on a Rookie contract and Zach Wilson will now have an open market value that will probably force Denver to let him walk, even though he is their best QB, and some other franchise will be the long term beneficiary of Zach's resurgence.
The entire jets organization is a joke ,they failed at all of the QB they drafted ,saleh and the coaches failed this kid worst O Line in the league the OC was cluelessand the head coachhas no idea wtf hes doing ,, good for zack he's actually going to learn from a real coach who knows wtf he's doing , i hope he kills it over there and make the jets look like the failure organization they are ,and this is coming from a life long jets fan ,
@pauliej345
Ай бұрын
i agree the Jets had one of the worst if not the worst oline last 3 years and outside of Garret Wilson and Breece Hall they have nobody on offense. The coaching has sucked all around and the OC's were Hackett whos terrible with not a lot of experience as an OC and Lafuer who was a rookie OC when they hired him. Plus you had a HC whos not good and was also a rookie HC lol. Wilson i thought played even better than his stats showed he just couldn't do much as the jets outside of Hall and G.Wilson contributed nothing.
Zack as a number 3 seriously! Back up at least
Whats sad is they get rid of these QBs like hot trash yet for some reason these GMs still trade the house, and jump on the media generational bandwagon. This is going to be another hot topic in 3 years with this QB class where we are talking about Caleb Williams, Bo Nix and Drake Maye being traded for 6th and 7th round picks etc.. When will we start holding coaches accountable for being useless at their Job vs dumping the QB and putting the blame on said player??
@DanielCalzacorta-ip2xe
Ай бұрын
💯
Hope QB Zach Wilson is a starter and not a backup. He can launder and step into the old Russ Wilson jersey
Why do people think Sean Payton is some kinda QB genius?! 😂 He had one of the best QB's of the last 20 years. Sure, he might've helped Brees but Drew is still Drew. Take Drew away, Payton hasn't done anything yet 🤷🏼♂️
These comments are comedy gold, Jerry… Gold
Is Mike texting while Simms speaks? My goodness 1:30
Pretty much the best situation for all involved.
This could become the biggest steal of the 2024 offseason
They are gnna turn Zack into a star
Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold have the same role.
if payton can revive Jamesis, Teddy B, and Russell after that abysmal 2022 season, i believe he can help Zach. also its a rebuilding season so if he doesn’t look good then he can help be a tank commander for next year
If Russell Wilson didn't have the brains to run Sean Payton's offense, then Zach Wilson DEFINITELY doesn't have the brains to run it lol. He's got all the arm talent in the world, so if he had the mental ability to play QB he wouldn't look like an absolute cluster out there.
@TangibleAndroid
Ай бұрын
Right, a cluster......
@richardthorne2804
Ай бұрын
Russell Wilson just doesn’t have the skillset. He has never been a rhythm and timing passer. He does better with play action and throwing the ball deep but running a offense that wants the ball more over the field is not his strength. Has nothing to do with intelligence.
@D_Corleone
Ай бұрын
If drew Breese can do it with peyton Zack wilson can do it with peyton honestly 35 year old Wilson lost his touch as a starting qb in the nfl and i dont see it coming back with the steelers and zach is barley 24 tons of time to develop before the (Gm) fans start predicting his career, who knows he might turn it around and youll look stupid🤷🏾♂️
@richardthorne2804
Ай бұрын
@@D_Corleone I believe Russell Wilson will be better in Pittsburgh because it’s a better situation. I’m not sure what that looks like but he’ll be better just like he was better this past year. I still think the Broncos are going to draft a QB I don’t care what anybody says drafting a QB in the first round is a crapshoot, anyone of these guys could be a bust and most of them will be unless it’s a 1983 type draft. Having said that, I hope we get Bo Nix. I am really intrigued by Bo but as I said, it’s a crapshoot.
@angelrocha6505
Ай бұрын
You think you can play QB behind jets o line ? 😂
how is it good for Zack and the Broncos and good for the Jets?
I hope Zach changes his number to 3, so my jersey is still accurate
Other than Brees who tf has Payton whispered
I know people think this crazy but personally Zack is a gunslinger Sean loves gun slingers When he left for New Orleans he wanted Tony Romo actually made offer to Dallas for him ! He took Drew Brees when nobody else wanted him ijs saying! Russell has always i mean Always been a compliment football Qb ! At North Carolina state he was nothing transfered to Wisconsin 1000 yrd backs tough defense! At Seattle Marshawn Lynch Hall of Fame D fence! Zack Wilson straight gunslinger in college just like Romo was just and like Brees at Purdue !
He’s Drew Lock 2.0….we already had this dude lol we already have mountain lions here in Denver….now the Cougars are showing up for Zach Wilson!
Might be a good change of scenery since he went to BYU and is actually from Utah. ....Right next door.
Bo Nix and Zach Wilson are both 24 years old. Denver Broncos are probably staying at #12
Chris simms just can’t let Zach Wilson go lmao
@filmjunkie-97
Ай бұрын
he said “he could be a high end backup” that doesnt sound like he hasnt let go
@TheHighlanderprime
Ай бұрын
What are you talking about dude?! Both were talking about a Zach Wilson trade; what did you expect Chris to say? He wasn’t celebrating him.
What QB has Sean Payton made look good besides Drew Brees? Teddy Bridgewater was decent under Sean Payton. Anyone else?
@idawg7332
Ай бұрын
didn't jameis winston look decent with him?
@DanielCalzacorta-ip2xe
Ай бұрын
None. They go to him to self destruct.
@baileygreene2280
Ай бұрын
Winston had his best season and even Taysom Hill, who's a TE now, looked semi- competent in his few starts under Peyton. He got Bridgewater paid and took Brees from a good QB to a Hall of Famer. Even Russ actually had a very good statistical year last year.
@playahdub5287
Ай бұрын
@@idawg7332Winston looked avg at best with sean
This from the same guys who said Russ was going to kill it......🤣
Perfect indeed. For the jets.
"The Jets have solved their problems." Have they? Hackett is still there.
4:08 I hope that happens
Remember Chris Simms will be proven Correct as it concerns Zach Wilson.... Watch!
Hes in his final year. U gonna pick up his 5th year for 22mill. Or sign him to backup contract
This is just not a smart move. I get it’s only a 6th. But what did they get by trading for him? They already got stidham, so their already running with a backup as their starter. And if they draft a qb it’s gonna be even worse as Zach would have no future in Denver if they bring in s rookie. So they basically just moved back in the draft for a bench qb who may end up being the 4th string qb on the team.
Zach Wilson's gotta improve on his QB issues and better himself. Coaches please make him better than he was.
The Jets may move up to #3 and take Drake Maye then sit him a year behind AR12
@johnnymason2460
Ай бұрын
Unlikely. Aaron Rodgers would throw a tantrum just like he did in Green Bay when they drafted Jordan Love.
@DanielCalzacorta-ip2xe
Ай бұрын
Lol
@TheHighlanderprime
Ай бұрын
Yeah, and ruin another QB prospect. If I was Male, I’d want the Jets away from me.
Jets have never developed a QB, NEVER
@playahdub5287
Ай бұрын
Chad, namath
Bo nix will be denver qb and zach wilson will be the backup
@jproog41
Ай бұрын
Nix isn't ready to start Week One.
The New York Jets are the worst organization, by far, in the NFL. And that's a high bar because there are some other really bad ones You will never, ever see an organization mismanage a highly talented young QB worse than the pathetic, putrid, inept, moronic, disfunctional Jets managed Zach Wilson. The kid can play. Sean Payton got a steal and with the team burdened by the departed Wilson's ridiculous dead cap space, this Wilson is a godsend. Meanwhile, Rogers will get hurt again in New York and be out for the season and the Jets will, once again, look like the complete assholes they've always been. The over-under is 4 snaps for Rodgers
@Jcd5596
Ай бұрын
Have you heard of the browns?
Zach like John Elway should have nixed being drafted by the NY Jets which have a history of destroying QB's. As Elway refused to play for the Colts so Zach should have refused to play for a team with no front line, no running game, and horrific play calling with 3 offensive coordinators one out of high school. Even Tom Brady begged off playing one more year for these losers. Saleh is a defensive coordinator but as a head coach he sucks. Zach has the arm and the legs to show up Woody as being a true knucklehead when it comes to talent. Go Zach I predict in the future Zach will go All Pro.
I sincerely wish ZW the best. He'll make a solid backup right now.
So if Payton doesn’t turn Zach career around then we have to reconsider this “QB Whisper” title he’s been given….
Now Wilson should wear number 3 so the Broncos fans here in Denver don’t have to buy a different Wilson jersey!
Look what happened with Shanahan n Purdy who was Mr Irrelevant
Zach better ball out in preseason although if broncos get their guy round 1 it privy won’t even matter
@DanielCalzacorta-ip2xe
Ай бұрын
Payton will be enrolling at the nearest retirement home next year
@szn1580
Ай бұрын
@@DanielCalzacorta-ip2xehahaha
@bsheffield5224
Ай бұрын
Without a doubt ZW is a better QB now then he was 3 years ago. Despite his challenges in NY, he is not broken. He should have been a 2nd round pick and not the 2nd pick of the draft. Like Sam Darnold with the Jets before him, he was destined to fail in the Jet’s culture. Frankly, his appearance of looking like a 17 year old and not a rough and tough QB helped to create the sense that the Jets had handed the keys to their Ferrari to a spoiled brat. Working under Sean Peyton will be a great opportunity. Let’s hope he works hard, plays smart and finds a confidence equal to his talents.
Especially in a high profile position like a QB, all ego has to be erased. You must have no personality. You go in there, humbly, and be the general of the offense. Forget who you are and the storyline. If you lose, you blame nobody to the press. You just say that you need more practice. You take responsibility for the loss. You can’t have an ego. You play hard, and if you win, you say the O line, the defense and the whole team and coaches are the MVP’s. Play your hand close to the cuff. Do your best, play your heart out, and don’t give the media much to talk about. Maybe that was just too hard to do in New York as a young QB.
Perfect for the Chiefs that is
Zach will start for the Broncos not even close
@TheHighlanderprime
Ай бұрын
He’s more talented than both backups currently on the Broncos.
@trentwise3762
Ай бұрын
@@TheHighlanderprimeaccording to who? Stidham has at least a year under Payton’s offense. And Ben denucci was one of the better qbs in the xfl.
What evidence is there to support the argument that Sean Payton is a good QB developer? Because Drew Brees was markedly better in NO than in SD? I need a larger sample size. I think this a terrible fit. Wilson doesn't need that a-hole coaching style.
With no protection will Aaron destroy his other Achilles tendon?
What’s all this smoke about Sean Payton Drew Brees that’s it how is he a QB guru everyone else he failed
@kenyattaclay7666
Ай бұрын
He resurrected Kerry Collins career with the Giants and went to a super bowl and he developed an unknown UDFA QB out of Eastern Illinois named Tony Romo into a high level starter but yeah he's done nothing with nobody else. 🙄
Perfect situation for memes, that's what you tried to say i guess
Chris simms...dude lacerated his liver in a gam playing as a bronco.
Sean didn’t help anyone other than Brees look GOOD if we’re being honest
Drew Brees was a quick processor who made fast decisions and threw accurate passes. Zach Wilson likes to hold the ball and drift around, and is erratic with his accuracy. There's basically no comparison.
@kenyattaclay7666
Ай бұрын
In his first three seasons Brees' completion percentage 58% and he threw 31 INTs. His lowest completion percentage once he got with Payton was 63% and he finished his career as a 70% completion rate. Zac Wilson has a completion percentage of 57% and has thrown 25 INTs after three seasons. 58% is not accurate and they basically had the same on the field issues in their first three seasons.
Oh…. Isn’t simms the one that said Wilson was the best QB in the draft?
Don't want Denver to draft a qb this year. This team is horrible and needs lots if help. Take best player at 12 and finish top 3 next draft and get a qb then. This year has 1 good qb. The rest are at best back ups
The Jets will still be trash this year. They are 20 years away from being a SB contender. I trust the Lions to win a SB before the Jets.
@jlvaviation9140
Ай бұрын
And the Browns too
Sean Payton screams like a psycho at Russel Wilson, sounds like a perfect situation for Zach Wilson or any young QB that makes mental mistakes 🙄
Perfect situation huh? Just like the kid from Missouri I forgot his name already
@Basement811
Ай бұрын
Drew lock
Zach Wilson and Trey lance have to be the happiest people ever that COVID happened They got,over Drafted / paid before people could recognize they sucked, although anyone with a Brian could figure out lance was gonna be a bust
@darnell16player
Ай бұрын
Lance is not a bust. 4 starts don’t dictate that at all. That’s not enough of a sample size for that label as much as people get too impatient in wanting the next Mahomes, Luck or Brady
@lordrayden3045
Ай бұрын
@@darnell16player No…. He sucks He didn’t do anything of note in college, he’s a bum
@darnell16player
Ай бұрын
@@lordrayden3045 That’s the problem with people assuming off a small sample size. And he doesn’t suck. If you think he does off an assumption then you’re an utter fool. 2× FCS champion (2018, 2019) 2020 FCS Championship Game MVP Walter Payton Award (2019) Jerry Rice Award (2019) MVFC Offensive Player of the Year (2019) First-team All-MVFC (2019) The kid has talent! He just needs to have a chance and not have his confidence destroyed.
@lordrayden3045
Ай бұрын
@@darnell16player FCS is the key He’s a bum and was over drafted
@darnell16player
Ай бұрын
@@lordrayden3045 Then your assumption is stupid. Don’t assume anything over a small sample size of games. That doesn’t make sense to do; then again logical sense seems to elude you
From Russel Wilson to Zach Wilson lol
Here's the plan. Coach up Wilson, and do not draft a QB in 24. Broncos draft the best corner back at 12, and trade Patric Certain for 2 first round picks. Trade out of the first round in 1925 twice, acquiring an additional first , 2 seconds, and later picks. Use all the later picks to draft bpa, and have 4 first round choices to trade up for ARCH MANNING!!!!!
@MichaelPierce-hd1ow
29 күн бұрын
4D Chess while others merely play checkers...completely Brilliant!!!
lol how are you congratulating a team who traded their 2nd pick in the draft overall for nothing
Y’all better not write off the Nucc. Ben Dennucci is a baller. He’s almost a replica of Tony Romo with a coach that can help him maximize his talent.
Didn't cost anything
I think Zach can have a Drew Brees esc resurgence, i think people underestimate how bad that jets team was especially the coaches. Now obviously I dont think Zach will be as good as Brees but could be a solid starter for years.
How is Sean Payton a QB whisperer? Didn't he just run his QB out of town, while taking a 40 million dollar dead cap hit to do it?
No way Sean Payton went and got this guy only to stick him at QB3 for two years…simms is so thick sometimes lol
@lordrayden3045
Ай бұрын
He thinks / thought Wilson was the best QB in that draft
If you think that a Zach Wilson trade is smart then I have a Sam Donald that I would be willing to trade for a third round pick with a retired JaMarcus Russell that I would include for free as a QB coach on how to unf** Zach's life.
Bronco’s are going to regret making this trade! Z. Wilson is worse than Daniel Jones so here’s hoping Aaron Rodgers Achilles holds up!
Why is Fields more accomplished? Because he can run and looks like a great KZread QB? 😅
Will Zach be Sean Payton's Paysom ? HIll ? ... you know that "slot" guy he's always eluding to ? or is it just me?
Sean Peyton is a QB guru? why because he traded for Drew Breeze? what QB has he engineered to some amazing career?
@davidlee32
Ай бұрын
Bridgewater did go 5-0 under him
@DanielCalzacorta-ip2xe
Ай бұрын
Payton is garbage
@dylangoff2750
Ай бұрын
Ummmm....drew Brees? PPL seem to forget that Brees didn't become Brees until payton got ahold of him. After his last season starting w/ SD, He was viewed as a fringe starter/elite QB2 at seasons end. He was far from a pro bowl qb. You wanna know how much Payton had to do with Brees success in the NFL? Look uo a video with someone asking Brees that question.
@sauldemize9998
Ай бұрын
@@dylangoff2750 Not true. Brees was injured and San Diego were able to Draft another QB top 10. That would be like saying Kubiac was responsible for Peyton Manning winning a superbowl in Denver. He traded for the only QB that was successful and drafted Zero QBs he developed.
@dylangoff2750
Ай бұрын
@@sauldemize9998 Man, I'm a Broncos fan and I watched those Charger teams because we're obviously in the same division....and im telling u....wasn't ANYBODY scared of drew Brees. We were scared of LaDainian Tomlinson. So go tell ur little fake story to someone who either isn't old enough to have watched, or just didn't pay attention. Because this guy did.
So they got the wrong Wilson last year 😂😂😂 yah’ll a joke
Players make the Coaches look good. That's just the bottom line. Sean Peyton had Brees. Without Brees the saints sucked. Bellichick had Brady....patriots sucked immediately after Brady left. If these coaches are such "QB whisperers" why couldn't they do it with other QBs?? You cant change how a QB plays. He's been playing like he has since he was a kid. Cant make a running QB into a passer...it just wont work. Cant make a passing QB into a runner...etc.
Zach Wilson was not the problem. Jets is the problem. Look what they did for Aaron Rodgers. A new o line and more. Stay away from New York if you're a QB.
These guys are idiots. Sean Payton coached a hall of fame quarterback in Brees and who the hell else has he developed that amounted to anything?
😅😅
IF Zach is a bust, how many of these gas-bags will admit they were wrong? All the usual talking heads are cheering this deal, as a suck up to Sean Payton. IF he didn't learn from Aaron, live and in person when Aaron embraced the kid...