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Mike Florio and Chris Simms question why, knowing how delicate Aaron Rodgers can be, the Jets didn’t excuse him while acknowledging that his absence was due to something important. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk
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  • @night_wolf6621
    @night_wolf662114 күн бұрын

    Rodgers: We must keep out distractions and focus on Football Also Rodgers: creating all the distractions

  • @aneesabashir8496
    @aneesabashir849614 күн бұрын

    Aaron Rodgers - the juice is simply not worth the squeeze

  • @paulmadkow9143
    @paulmadkow914314 күн бұрын

    Much happier Packers fan here in 24.

  • @lilshawnweezy1

    @lilshawnweezy1

    13 күн бұрын

    Me too brother 😂

  • @orbitalmechanic9
    @orbitalmechanic914 күн бұрын

    He portrays himself as intelligent but in reality...

  • @wowydidihavemyrealnameonhe4918

    @wowydidihavemyrealnameonhe4918

    14 күн бұрын

    Facts!!

  • @Burton_Man

    @Burton_Man

    14 күн бұрын

    Had me dying 😂

  • @allensaunders449

    @allensaunders449

    14 күн бұрын

    Problem is aaron only thinks he is intelligent nobody else

  • @future_teknokrat7585

    @future_teknokrat7585

    14 күн бұрын

    He's a smart a$$ 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Tyrantula1

    @Tyrantula1

    14 күн бұрын

    He’s one of those guys that is like slightly above average, but has no self awareness and thinks he’s a total genius because he’s been a sheltered athlete his entire life.

  • @sputnikalgrim
    @sputnikalgrim14 күн бұрын

    Hey Jets fans… we warned you and you called us spoiled and toxic. Get ready cuz in week 4 when you’re losing he’s going to start talking about how his WRs aren’t in the right place. He’ll say he doesn’t need to practice and how he hates preseason games but he won’t admit all that time could’ve helped.

  • @patrickzdanek2681

    @patrickzdanek2681

    14 күн бұрын

    Facts!

  • @thegreatrenaldo7718

    @thegreatrenaldo7718

    14 күн бұрын

    Will this raise the price of beer?

  • @capkovic35

    @capkovic35

    14 күн бұрын

    No he won't he doesn't have all rookies who can't catch like his last year in gb lol

  • @expungerbaby659

    @expungerbaby659

    14 күн бұрын

    Oh this is bs. Il remember this comment when their 3-1

  • @christr1ut87

    @christr1ut87

    14 күн бұрын

    He has 1 bad year in GB and their spoiled fans forget all about 2 straight MVP level seasons.

  • @universoullifebalance
    @universoullifebalance14 күн бұрын

    As a Packer fan I’m so so grateful to have the Jets 🙏🏾

  • @lilshawnweezy1

    @lilshawnweezy1

    13 күн бұрын

    Same here 😂

  • @ShadEatz

    @ShadEatz

    12 күн бұрын

    Facts 😂

  • @lordrayden3045
    @lordrayden304514 күн бұрын

    “We don’t need the mess now” The more you let Rodgers do this…. The worse it’s gonna get

  • @andrewB104
    @andrewB10414 күн бұрын

    Don’t blame the organization for his inexcusable absence. Aaron is the problem. Period. Not the lawyers fault. There are rules which all players must follow in their organizations. Follow the rules or pay the fine.

  • @williamhermann6635

    @williamhermann6635

    14 күн бұрын

    The organization sold their soul for him and this is what they get. When a team like the Packers is practically giving away a hall of fame qb, its probly best to stay away.

  • @Maxpower644
    @Maxpower64414 күн бұрын

    He could just retire and count his millions and just be left alone. So we don't have to subjected to this prima Donna bs any longer. Hey Aaron, no one is forcing you to play, bud. You can walk away at any time.

  • @joshuahall1581

    @joshuahall1581

    13 күн бұрын

    Nah, he just wants to middle finger the jets. Jets need a franchise QB period. Aaron Rodgers is a washed conservative hippy clown show on wheels. He doesn't respond well to discipline despite being the HOF veteran in the building. I guarantee you if Saleh grows a pair and disciplines him with a fine, Rodgers will throw a hissy fit and retire on the spot.

  • @dustinruther2538
    @dustinruther253814 күн бұрын

    Jets PR failed in this event. Why cause more drama when they could have just said it was EXCUSED!

  • @ThisGuyDrives

    @ThisGuyDrives

    11 күн бұрын

    Why should they? Then they get the hate for it instead of Aaron? They did the right thing, unlike Aaron. THEY TOLD THE TRUTH. They made it clear it wasn't on them that a dude who has made it clear "it's all about winning".

  • @Losttouchjs
    @Losttouchjs14 күн бұрын

    Don’t give Aaron Rodgers any airtime. He recks in self-centeredness. He wants everything to be about him. Throwing the ball last year before primetime games when he had no business doing so.

  • @NotMyActualName_
    @NotMyActualName_14 күн бұрын

    "people don't like lawyers because they keep them from doing the things they need to do". No Mike.. That's not why most of us don't like lawyers. That's why clients don't like lawyers. The rest of us don't like lawyers because you've all created a system that makes yourself necessary to enrich yourselves. Laws and contracts could be simple, but you make them complicated so that only lawyers can understand them. And any time there's a major legal situation involving money the only ones who ever make out well are the lawyers. THAT is why people don't like lawyers.

  • @paulmartin2348

    @paulmartin2348

    14 күн бұрын

    You have just written a statement that demonstrates EXACTLY why people with any understanding of how the real world actually works spend their entire lives pretending that you actually matter while never listening to a single thing you say. Living your life without a functioning brain does not make people who think and understand the bad guys.

  • @NotMyActualName_

    @NotMyActualName_

    14 күн бұрын

    @@paulmartin2348 as a person who basically thinks for a living I understand the necessity of intellectual professions. But your statement clearly displays a lack of having ever had to work with lawyers. Some lawyers are fine. They're there to help and look out for their clients interests. Others are just there to make sure they collect as many billable hours as possible creating documents that are impossible to decipher without years of training.

  • @midnightjay1343

    @midnightjay1343

    14 күн бұрын

    Lawyers didn’t create the judicial system. A lawyers job is to learn that system and make it simple for their clients. They have no responsibility to the general public to simplify a system they didn’t create

  • @NotMyActualName_

    @NotMyActualName_

    14 күн бұрын

    @@midnightjay1343 I beg to differ. Most of the drafters of our constitution were lawyers. Most of our legislators are lawyers. The people who wrote the rules of the judicial system are lawyers. It's a system of lawyers by lawyers and for lawyers

  • @future_teknokrat7585

    @future_teknokrat7585

    14 күн бұрын

    The lawyers didn't create the Constitution, British Common Law, nor the Magna Carta. Also, there is no law requiring you to use an attorney. We can hate attorneys, but they are obligated by law in every jurisdiction to represent their client to the fullest extent of their knowledge and abilities. Please name the system lawyers created to enrich themselves? Cause that would be good ole Capitalism and it's litigious nature. Of course, most people either don't need an attorney or can't afford one, so they naturally hate from their couch......till they need one🤣🤣🤣

  • @lordrayden3045
    @lordrayden304514 күн бұрын

    So….. Jets are going to just let Rodgers do what ever he wants like Green Bay Good luck with that

  • @NathanDean79
    @NathanDean7914 күн бұрын

    LMAO😂 Rodgers days of being one of the top QBs in football is OVER guys! I hate to break the news to you!😂. He is 40 and is returning for a ruptured Achilles tendon.

  • @mizzo9
    @mizzo913 күн бұрын

    Rodgers has been a freaking GREAT TEAMMATE. You don’t hear about how he has been to EVERY practice with the Jets including optional ones. He was voted most inspirational by his teammates last year after coming back from injury and PRACTICING WITH THE TEAM. Coaching up the players, leading the scout team. He gave the Jets $35,000,000. Back from his contract. But OH MY GOD! He is going to miss TWO PRACTICES! WE TALKING PRACTICE?

  • @blackholesun5682
    @blackholesun568214 күн бұрын

    This topic is ridiculous 😮😢

  • @davidstick9207
    @davidstick920714 күн бұрын

    If they excuse the Diva...they must excuse all

  • @pauldelray5839
    @pauldelray583914 күн бұрын

    Warning. Warning. Early retirement during season? Rodgers out of control. Again.

  • @joshuahall1581

    @joshuahall1581

    13 күн бұрын

    Salah wanted Carr, but the right-wing MAGA owner overrode Salah's decision and had him get Aaron Rodgers.

  • @j.anthonybattaglini6650
    @j.anthonybattaglini665014 күн бұрын

    Ayawaska awareness convention lol

  • @tjayd1225
    @tjayd122514 күн бұрын

    As a Rodgers defender I really don’t think it’s fair to blame the jets for terming it unexcused. You know how you avoid that? Just show up, come on Aaron

  • @carlfrye1566

    @carlfrye1566

    14 күн бұрын

    How do you defend him signing a 3 year $150 contract with The Packers and then after the 1st year of that contract he went off on vacation to decide if he wanted to play year 2? The Packers finally had enough and told him to leave so he has to think fast to get The Jets to ki## his a##. Then Jordan Love has a great year and damn near beat the 49ers in the playoffs.

  • @Eric-te6sk
    @Eric-te6sk12 күн бұрын

    Looking forward to not hearing from him anymore. I too have reached the limit.

  • @moe1231908
    @moe123190814 күн бұрын

    So you’re mad because they didn’t lie but if the jets did lie and then classify it as excused you’d say Rodgers runs the franchise - you’re supposed to be grown men but the media acts like children.

  • @jerischopp6998
    @jerischopp699810 күн бұрын

    Buckle up Jet fans - it's going to be a bumpy season

  • @sccroobyj4024
    @sccroobyj402413 күн бұрын

    Florio cashed another one from big pharma.

  • @TiffsGardenVariety

    @TiffsGardenVariety

    13 күн бұрын

    He better hope he doesn't make it to another episode of D!ED SUDD3NLY

  • @ttttggggg636
    @ttttggggg63614 күн бұрын

    TOM BRADY HAD AN UNEXCUSED ABSENCE TO ATTEND A PARTY, WHERE WAS THE HATE? PEOPLE ARE SHEEP

  • @patrickzdanek2681

    @patrickzdanek2681

    14 күн бұрын

    You can't really compare the two though. Brady mistake one day out of his whole career where is Rogers constantly pulls these shenanigans. Also, Brady's work ethic was unlike anybody in the league. Gronk and Edelman speak about this all the time saying that he would constantly stay after practice studying defenses, running routes, Rogers never did any of that crap. That's what separates greatness from just good.

  • @wolfmanhat33

    @wolfmanhat33

    14 күн бұрын

    Lolol this is pathetic whataboutism. The two aren’t at all comparable

  • @ttttggggg636

    @ttttggggg636

    14 күн бұрын

    UNEXCUSED ABSENCES FROM CAMP IS ACTUALLY PRETTY COMMON. JUST NOT REPORTED.

  • @ttttggggg636

    @ttttggggg636

    14 күн бұрын

    @@wolfmanhat33 ABSENCE FROM CAMP FOR STAR QBS.

  • @expungerbaby659

    @expungerbaby659

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@patrickzdanek2681no rodger never misses, shows you actually dont know what your talking about

  • @jeffmetcalf1733
    @jeffmetcalf173314 күн бұрын

    Oh the Jets will do Jets like things. At some point you just want the fanbase to have a functional organization but at the same time…it’s kind of hilarious to observe the circus from afar.

  • @velder22

    @velder22

    14 күн бұрын

    Yeah they all think they're going to win the super bowl lol

  • @jeffmetcalf1733

    @jeffmetcalf1733

    14 күн бұрын

    @@velder22 well…that’s kind of the best part about the offseason…most fanbases feel that way 😆😆…minus the Panthers and Patriots

  • @themikeygextremeshow.
    @themikeygextremeshow.14 күн бұрын

    Arron Rodger is the man.

  • @paulmartin2348

    @paulmartin2348

    14 күн бұрын

    Arron Rodger is the man. (that destroy every team his is "part" of)

  • @thailee7549
    @thailee754914 күн бұрын

    So he let them know way ahead of time and it's still unexcused? Lol

  • @ttttggggg636

    @ttttggggg636

    14 күн бұрын

    RICH EISEN IS CALLING IT A 'NO SHOW' , AS A TEACHER THAT TICKS ME OFF. WORDS HAVE MEANING

  • @rickfromboston
    @rickfromboston13 күн бұрын

    Great point Chris Simms! What’s your competition doing? Working their asses off that’s what. Saleh is ticked off and threw Rogers under the bus, well deserved.

  • @TiffsGardenVariety

    @TiffsGardenVariety

    13 күн бұрын

    Good point. Maybe he'll get another MVP

  • @christopherweise438

    @christopherweise438

    11 күн бұрын

    @@TiffsGardenVariety - Rodgers has played a grand total of 4 plays with the Jets. He could get away with the vanishing act in GB, but he still hasn't established himself in NY, and now he's 40 with a repaired Achilles.

  • @benjaminscott1864
    @benjaminscott186414 күн бұрын

    You better get on rodgers for missing mandatory camp like you did Lamar when he missed a voluntary camp smh

  • @joshuahall1581

    @joshuahall1581

    13 күн бұрын

    Rodgers is a loose canon and a crybaby. We already know what's going to happen, he would threaten to retire if Salah even thinks about disciplining him. Then when he bitches and moans about "being cancelled" or the radical left has corrupted by the Jets, it'll just be him throwing stones from his ivy tower. Salah doesn't have the balls to be the head coach of the NYJ. NYJ needs someone like Sean Payton to reign a guy like Aaron in. Aaron simply doesn't respect, Salah or the owner.

  • @fortyoneshades
    @fortyoneshades12 күн бұрын

    Packers fan smiling here

  • @craigvollkommer8574
    @craigvollkommer857414 күн бұрын

    I can’t imagine being so upset about a human I never met “calling off work” for a day lol.

  • @ItsShiggy
    @ItsShiggy14 күн бұрын

    Egomaniac Rodgers back at it again.

  • @Mach11976
    @Mach1197614 күн бұрын

    He's down in South America tripping!

  • @jonosay854
    @jonosay85414 күн бұрын

    DivaRodgers is the Lebron of the NFL

  • @saidufofanah2210

    @saidufofanah2210

    14 күн бұрын

    Rodgers is nowhere near the talent of lebron

  • @deonterector

    @deonterector

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@saidufofanah2210Well he plays QB? I'm pretty sure Mahomes or Rodgers don't have the talent of a Paul George. Basketball is more skill demanding while the NFL is more complex.

  • @noahm7977

    @noahm7977

    14 күн бұрын

    More like kyrie

  • @night_wolf6621

    @night_wolf6621

    14 күн бұрын

    The difference is LeBron is 100% focused on basketball

  • @RB-.-
    @RB-.-14 күн бұрын

    When do we start looking at Robert Saleh as just being a bad coach? Seems like theres a controversy every few weeks with them during the season, Rodgers or not. Remember when the entire defense threatened to mutiny if they kept playing Zach Wilson? This dude is putting himself in bad situations having to explain himself depressingly.

  • @leevancleef358

    @leevancleef358

    13 күн бұрын

    Dude is lousy...ever notice he looks exactly like Xerxes in the movie 300?

  • @ramonjohnson7923
    @ramonjohnson792312 күн бұрын

    As a former sports broadcast professional you two missed an awesome opportunity to pull out an old Don Knotts as 'Deputy Sheriff Barney Fife' 'nip it in the bud' reference as in Coach Saleh coming out in his press conference saying 'well as it goes with Aaron Roger's we decided we got to nip it in the bud, yes, nip it, nip it in the bud!" And then just keep repeating it like some insane mantra!!! Oh man, I am killing myself with laughter just picturing the scene it is just so decadently tasty!!!

  • @Zoyous
    @Zoyous14 күн бұрын

    Video editor - why do you set the output volume to be like 1/5th the volume of every other video on KZread? Florio's bumper at the end of the video blasts your speakers after you've had to crank up the volume to watch the content

  • @timflint25
    @timflint2514 күн бұрын

    I wonder if he's got a nagging injury and he's trying to hide it so it doesn't become a headline

  • @michaelsasso13

    @michaelsasso13

    14 күн бұрын

    That’s my guess.

  • @jasonhittinger3475
    @jasonhittinger347514 күн бұрын

    Never his fault and always talking about things other than football with this guy.

  • @UURevival
    @UURevival14 күн бұрын

    I appreciate you guys talking sense.

  • @future_teknokrat7585
    @future_teknokrat758514 күн бұрын

    Where are the Aaron Rodgers Fan Club Boyz??? 😂😂😂

  • @Dfm25387
    @Dfm2538714 күн бұрын

    The Yugo reference 😂

  • @povertyspec9651
    @povertyspec965112 күн бұрын

    RETIRE ALREADY

  • @crex1074
    @crex107414 күн бұрын

    The head coach is a bone head.....Jets being Jets. This team will always find a way to F-themselves. Idiotic, because Rodgers is the one that will save your job.

  • @jonathanperry7012
    @jonathanperry701211 күн бұрын

    This is what CJ Stroud was talking about

  • @kendojones-in2xm
    @kendojones-in2xm14 күн бұрын

    Brett Favre 2.0

  • @FMA419
    @FMA41914 күн бұрын

    here come all the right-wing snowflakes to hate on Florio for speaking the truth about Rodgers 😂

  • @bluechew9299
    @bluechew929914 күн бұрын

    From a Vikings fan, 😂

  • @markallison1987
    @markallison198714 күн бұрын

    What if Rodgers has informed the Jets that there will be a few more of these days? It would then make sense that the Jets would go down disciplinary/fine route, gives them more options down the line?

  • @lordrayden3045
    @lordrayden304514 күн бұрын

    Don’t worry, I’m sure it’s mike mccarthy’s fault

  • @matthewerspamer6274
    @matthewerspamer627414 күн бұрын

    Simm’s nickname his rookie season was Blockhead for sure

  • @walkerdefaul8487
    @walkerdefaul848714 күн бұрын

    Answer to the title question: because the jets are a poor run organization. I’m so excited to watch this implode… again hahahah

  • @FlpDScrp

    @FlpDScrp

    14 күн бұрын

    You got your popcorn yet ? Cause I’m getting mine ready 😂

  • @w00deey12
    @w00deey1214 күн бұрын

    Some people would say that the Jets leaking that Zack Wilson didn’t want to go back in late last season qualifies as “BS that has nothing to do with winning “. So , the NY media just looks petty posting that headline

  • @night_wolf6621

    @night_wolf6621

    14 күн бұрын

    Do you know what the NY media is? This is standard business for them, look at the other headlines they do

  • @w00deey12

    @w00deey12

    14 күн бұрын

    @@night_wolf6621 what you say is true. Do you think Rodgers regrets going to the Jets?

  • @night_wolf6621

    @night_wolf6621

    14 күн бұрын

    @@w00deey12 I have no idea so I can’t speculate, but he did the same thing in Green Bay. If he expected the NY media to treat him how the GB media treated him then it confirms that he isn’t the smartest guy in the room

  • @w00deey12

    @w00deey12

    14 күн бұрын

    @@night_wolf6621 all things considered, I do not recall any other teams being interested...

  • @night_wolf6621

    @night_wolf6621

    14 күн бұрын

    @@w00deey12 The Broncos were definitely interested but I don’t know if they were interested the second time around

  • @CThomas-wg4gc
    @CThomas-wg4gc14 күн бұрын

    Chris been put this qb on blast, hope people start trusting Chris more.

  • @Luciddreamer007
    @Luciddreamer00714 күн бұрын

    Thanks Mike !! It’s total BS !!!! incidentally I guarantee you there’s guys in that Jets locker room that are pissed off about this, but they can’t say anything about it Oh & “inexcused” is total nonsense BS !!! Also, to quote Daniel Tosh “ the smartest guy in the room never says he’s the smartest guy in the room”

  • @patrickzdanek2681
    @patrickzdanek268114 күн бұрын

    Maybe he's in another darkness retreat.

  • @CookieMonster-we1in

    @CookieMonster-we1in

    14 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @Muricans1776
    @Muricans177613 күн бұрын

    Well let’s be thankful Saleh didn’t plead the 5th this time

  • @williamflack6691
    @williamflack669114 күн бұрын

    Damn, Mike...can you quit yelling. What you have to say is good, but tone down the decibels!

  • @leevancleef358

    @leevancleef358

    13 күн бұрын

    Florio is SO annoying

  • @robertpapalia
    @robertpapalia14 күн бұрын

    Woody wanted Rodgers. It's his baby. Sell the team.

  • @JasonCovell
    @JasonCovell9 күн бұрын

    ALL WE NEED IS LOVE #10 ❤ GO PACK GO 🎉

  • @whiskeykilmer1866
    @whiskeykilmer186614 күн бұрын

    Bubbles had to meet with Hilldog's people to restock his Andrenochrome supply. His regular supplier mysteriously disappeared.

  • @MrMegaGamerMan
    @MrMegaGamerMan14 күн бұрын

    That's a nice shirt, Chris. 🦅Go Birds!🦅

  • @vegansnevadi3122
    @vegansnevadi312214 күн бұрын

    Front office for the jets has always been a mess. They can’t develop a QB or coach a winning team the way they’re handling this doesn’t surprise me at all. Classic jets dining a veteran who’s been in the league longer than the whole coaching staff lmao

  • @thatdude659
    @thatdude65914 күн бұрын

    Lamar>>>> burrinjury

  • @jca7343

    @jca7343

    14 күн бұрын

    Lamar is a certified playoff choker

  • @mmichael1221
    @mmichael122114 күн бұрын

    Packers fans grasping at straws here dude was at all the voluntary workouts and has been in the building for a while when he didn’t have to be they don’t care he missed those two days, the personnel, the players the fans don’t care

  • @theycallme_kage
    @theycallme_kage14 күн бұрын

    Listening to grown men pander about something that literally has no affect on their life is hilarious. Why does AR not being at the first day have everyone is such a tizzy? He was there for all of voluntary OTAs, he was in contact with the front office / coach prior to his absence, and he is a 20 year vet. People need to chill. Meaningful football isn't played for another 3 months.

  • @stephanea5364

    @stephanea5364

    14 күн бұрын

    Rodgers said everybody must ne there for winning mentality, everybody must ne on board and work, that's why

  • @paulmartin2348

    @paulmartin2348

    14 күн бұрын

    "Meaningful football" DOES NOT, by definition, include Arron Rodgers. That guy is cancer.

  • @73ajd1

    @73ajd1

    14 күн бұрын

    There is no meaningful football played in new york.

  • @capkovic35
    @capkovic3514 күн бұрын

    Did florio really just act like the ny post didn't have bias and wasn't getting money to spread a certain agenda? Lol

  • @stevenl9151
    @stevenl915114 күн бұрын

    Do you think it had to do with hassan also missing? Like holding both veterans to the same standard?

  • @velder22

    @velder22

    14 күн бұрын

    Nobody's going to hold it against him because he was screaming for a contract before they traded him, everybody expected him to sit out until he gets paid

  • @ledelste
    @ledelste14 күн бұрын

    Maybe Rodgers subconsciously wants the papers to be yelling at him, maybe he’s got a drive to stir it up because it gives him some juice when he plays

  • @robertriteman3227
    @robertriteman322714 күн бұрын

    Al least Lebron shows up to practices and games. What a complete waste of money that could have gotten a stable QB and pay for additional pieces . I cannot believe that I have to observe the Kennedy would have been the more sane of the two if Rogers had run with him

  • @jackcurvin9769
    @jackcurvin976914 күн бұрын

    When they say they'd have to do it for everybody if they did it happened.Isn't that the same answer wegan from teachers?When we asked to leave the room in school? Loll

  • @DennisAlvarez-qm3ik
    @DennisAlvarez-qm3ik14 күн бұрын

    Eli > Rodgers

  • @joshbeezley4158

    @joshbeezley4158

    14 күн бұрын

    No.

  • @THEROOSTER92420

    @THEROOSTER92420

    14 күн бұрын

    @@joshbeezley4158resume says otherwise, all that talent for nothing, Big Ben is better than Rodgers

  • @joshbeezley4158

    @joshbeezley4158

    14 күн бұрын

    @@THEROOSTER92420 If we're talking actual careers and resumes, you could certainly make the case that both Eli and Big Ben have a very real case where you can say they have the edge over Aaron Rodgers. They both have one more ring. This is true. But what you can't make the case for (or refute) is that Aaron Rodgers was the better QB/player. There's a distinction that needs to be made here between 'better resume/career' and 'better QB.' That's why I don't think the question of, "Who had the better career" is unflawed. It can imply to some that it means that because one may have had the better career, that must also mean they were the better player. And the two are not necessarily correlated, especially in this case. I respect both of these players. Eli was a contributing factor in beating Tom Brady in the super bowl, twice. And Big Ben, even though he played a part in losing Super Bowl 45 to Rodgers' Packers in 2011, he still made it to 3 Super Bowls with the Steelers, winning two. I get it. I am not going to just be sitting here, bashing these two accomplished players. The aim of this post is not to be a hate-post. The aim here, is to inform that there is a terrible misconception out there that is just flat out erroneous. The misconception being 'better career = better player'. As I said, again, the two are not necessarily correlated. And they're not here. The case for why Eli and Big Ben stems, primarily down to rings. I don't disagree that rings and SB championships are the biggest (and most impotant) accomplishments that players can achieve in their careers. They are. If you say they had better careers, I won't fight you over it. But if we're going to say they were both BETTER than Rodgers, then we need more context here. If your definition of "better" is "better career/resume," again, I said I don't have much of a problem with anyone saying that. But we need to stop our horses if we're going to say "better career" means "better overall player" and look at a few things: 1) Winning anything is a team accomplishment. And QBs, without a doubt, are the most influential piece to any football team in this day and age. But they're not the "end all, be all." A player can play their best game and still find themselves on the losing side. Anything can happen over the course of any game that will decide the outcome in an opponent's favor. And all it can take for that momentum to swing is ONE play. A HB can fumble with his team up by 2 points and 0:50 seconds to go in the 4'th at this own 35-yard line on a hand off for time-clock management purposes, or a newly-signed CB, coming off the practice squad in relief for an injured key starter can find themselves screwing up in a pivotal moment where blow coverage and fail to prevent a 30+ yard TD pass in the front corner of the endzone to one of the top WR's in the game, with :03 second left and they go up by 1. (Btw, both of these instances happened in high-scoring games in the Rodgers era even though he didn't have one turnover in either game and was lights out excellent, matching point for point with the other team.) Because it's so many guys that have to do their job right, at any given time, any of them (and all of them) do find themselves making mistakes that cost their team over the course of the game. But any one of the 24 starting players on the team can make that one back-breaking, game-ending play for everyone else. It's a TEAM sport. 2) A player is responsible for what HE alone does in his position and needs to be credited when he does his job well and held accountable when he doesn't. He's not responsible for what the rest of the team does. He doesn't coach the entire team (including the defense, for example). He doesn't go to combines and scout the talent and put together big boards. He doesn't go out and acquire talent. He can advocate to management to get certain guys. The top QBs such as Brady and Rodgers have in the past. But they don't run the organization or have the final say. A QB is a leader of the team, but he doesn't do everyone else's jobs for them. 3) Therefore, since QBs (like any other positional players) are responsible for what they do in their assigned roles on the team, we need to judge them for what they, themselves, did and not just look at box scores, even though that's easier. QBs make mistakes, too. Even if they carry the most weight in terms of the influence in a game. We shouldn't judge the final outcome of a game on one player if we don't have context of what actually happened. 4) Last, the best way to get an accurate idea of what the player was like is to take a look at their personal, individual accolades and statistics. There are two types of achievements in the NFL: personal/individual and overall team achievements. Personal would be things like a player's stats (game, season and career), awards exclusive to their position that they can earn from being the best at their position, and broader awards, accessable for most positions (except LS, for example), like ROY, OPOY/DOPY and MVP which are awarded on the basis for making the biggest individual impacts in the entire league in a given year, as well as Hall of Fame status. That's all what a player can earn for what HE does. Not his team. Team achievements are different. These are a reflection of the state of said team. Not just necessarily one guy. Any game outcome is a reflection of a team achievement, including, but not limited to super bowls. So let's be fair here and judge these three by what THEY did and pool all their stats and individual accolades together, and see, not who had the better career, but who was the best player to define who was "better." These are their totals over their careers. (Note: I did NOT include Regular Season or Playoff Win Totals. This is just a collection of individual-related stats/awards and metrics.) Aaron Rodgers STATS Regular Season: 65.3% completion percentage, 59,055 passing yards, 475 passing TDs, 105 INTS, 103.6 passer rating over 231 games played Playoffs: 64.7% completion percentage, 5,894 passing yards, 45 passing TDs, 13 Interceptions, 100.1 passer rating over 22 games ACCOLADES/AWARDS 10x Pro Bowler 4x All-Pro 4x AP MVP 4x PFWA MVP Super Bowl 45 MVP HOF All-2010's Team 2011 Bert Bell Award 2011 PFWA Offensive PoY Award 2x SN Offensive PoY Award Eli Manning STATS Regular Season: 60.3% completion percentage, 57,023 passing yards, 366 passing TDs, 244 Interceptions (including two seasons where he led the NFL in INTS, twice), 84.1 passer rating over 236 games played Playoffs: 60.5% completion percentage, 18 passing TDs, 9 INTS, 87.4 passer rating over 12 games ACCOLADES/AWARDS 4x Pro Bowler 2x SB MVP 2016 Walter Payton Man of the Year (not really an on-the-field play award but we'll add it, anyways, I guess.) Ben Rothlisberger STATS Regular Season: 64.4% completion percentage, 64,088 passing yards, 48 passing TDs, 211 INTs, 93.5 passer rating over 249 games played Playoffs: 63.2% completion percentage, 36 TDs, 28 INTs, 86.7 passer rating over 23 games ACCOLADES/AWARDS 6x Pro Bowler 2004 AP Offensive RoY 2004 PFWA Offensive RoY 2004 SN RoY As the stats show, you would be incorrect to suggest they were better players than Rodgers. Rodgers has more TDs, less INTs, better completion %, and a higher passer rating in both the regular season and playoffs than both. The only thing Rodgers doesn't lead in is passing yards, but he trails Big Ben only by 5,033 yards but Ben has played 18 more games (due in large part to Rodgers having two fractured collarbones in seperate years where he missed large amounts of time in those years), but he would only need, roughly, a llittle more than a year (18 games to be exact) of 280 passing yards to tie him. Very managable he would surpass Ben in two years if healthy. Accolades-wise, Rodgers has more pro-bowl nods, MVPs, all-pros than either of them and, unlike either, made an all-decade team. These are INDIVIDUAL achievements. The point is this: Big Ben and Eli Manning are both esteemed, established, hall of fame players who accomplished A LOT in the NFL. Neither is a bum. Both are going to Canton. But in their careers, and in their primes, at their peaks, neither was better than Rodgers in his. The numbers point out, he is the better PLAYER. Better CAREER, there is a discussion. But better player, there is no discussion. It's Aaron Charles Rodgers.

  • @dominicburton8127
    @dominicburton812714 күн бұрын

    Nobody better then florio idgaf 😂😂he jus be telling it how it is

  • @c.t.9277
    @c.t.927714 күн бұрын

    Rodgers more important than lame jets coaching staff!

  • @mattyb1030
    @mattyb103013 күн бұрын

    He doesnt need minni3 camp. He is 40 years old and has seen it all. Evryone chill.

  • @markb3786

    @markb3786

    12 күн бұрын

    You do realize he is a QB who throws to someone besides himself.

  • @patrickfintak2048
    @patrickfintak204814 күн бұрын

    Who cares what the man does 😂😂 People are so in their feelings about another person’s life. It’s just football. Has no affect on your life whatsoever

  • @stephanea5364

    @stephanea5364

    14 күн бұрын

    When Rodgers was the one at the end of the season, saying everybody must be there all the time, it matters.

  • @derrickw3360

    @derrickw3360

    14 күн бұрын

    Does it affect your life that people are talking about Aaron Rodgers? No it doesn't, but yet you still felt the need to make a comment. I didnt know something has to directly affect you in order to speak about it. sounds like you just dont like what they are saying. Yet you still watched and commented. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @mikemike6182

    @mikemike6182

    14 күн бұрын

    Except football is business & legally bind in contracts.

  • @cap2205

    @cap2205

    14 күн бұрын

    It's off-season for a football talk show, what are they supposed to do?

  • @jeffreysorrells8897

    @jeffreysorrells8897

    14 күн бұрын

    Hey Patrick they are doing their JOB. something the team leader was too busy to do. If it was family emergency, oh wait he doesn’t have a family he cut them off.

  • @bob-qz9ey
    @bob-qz9ey13 күн бұрын

    Back in '50s and '60, you'd both have been perceived as a "cosy" couple gossiping about Athlete's personal lives; their morality; much more than their Play. Back then, I'll let you imagine what you'd 'ave been called.

  • @markb3786

    @markb3786

    12 күн бұрын

    Do you spend lots of time thinking about the sexual preferences of other men because that has not been a part of this story at all.

  • @brianwilliamsbriancrime
    @brianwilliamsbriancrime10 күн бұрын

    We're sitting in here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we in here talking about practice. I mean, listen, we're talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about practice. Not a game. Not, not … Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last. Not the game, but we're talking about practice, man. I mean, how silly is that? … And we talking about practice. I know I supposed to be there. I know I'm supposed to lead by example... I know that... And I'm not.. I'm not shoving it aside, you know, like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I do. I honestly do... But we're talking about practice man. What are we talking about? Practice? We're talking about practice, man. We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice. We ain't talking about the game. [more laughter] We're talking about practice, man.

  • @samrotolo7303
    @samrotolo730314 күн бұрын

    Is inexcusable unexcusable?

  • @dm8064
    @dm80642 күн бұрын

    The Jets won't win a Super Bowl anyway with Rodgers. So what he missed.

  • @starkotic
    @starkotic8 күн бұрын

    Can't wait for that first Monday Night Football game. GO NINERS!

  • @lorenzobolis5166
    @lorenzobolis516613 күн бұрын

    Jets fans don't care he is missing 2 days when he's been there for all the offseason program. You media are the only ones who care so you can talk about it ad nauseam.

  • @jaimeperry7326

    @jaimeperry7326

    7 күн бұрын

    Who made you the spokesperson for ALL Jet's fans ... did you poll them all or did you just equate you not caring with all Jets fans not caring ?

  • @derrickmc222
    @derrickmc22214 күн бұрын

    Aaron rogers is a problem. But none of these people want to admit it

  • @ladidadi2054
    @ladidadi205412 күн бұрын

    Over doing the AR#12 Slander we are tired of it its like what the media did to kanye everything aaron does now its demonized

  • @thegreatrenaldo7718
    @thegreatrenaldo771814 күн бұрын

    This is only an "issue" outside the team. Watching these talking heads and football "fans" get all worked up over this is hilarious.

  • @yanksbaseball96
    @yanksbaseball9614 күн бұрын

    Because the jets want to show everyone is treated the same including aaron rodgers, this is a nothing burger

  • @jlkaraoke1
    @jlkaraoke114 күн бұрын

    Rodgers doesn't want to play.

  • @hawaiiguykailua6928
    @hawaiiguykailua692814 күн бұрын

    It's like you're all living inside the soap opera and believe any of it is real😂 Not called "programming" for nothing.

  • @richardprescott5939
    @richardprescott593914 күн бұрын

    These two guys almost stumbled onto what likely happened. The story was - Aaron came to the OTA's and we decided that he would take some time off in coming back from his injury, But then Reddick didn't report and they didn't want to make Aaron seem above the team. So if they said it was excused - The argument is Aaron is above the team. Now the argument is Aaron himself put himself above the team. What he really did was keep Reddick from getting fined. The guy gave up $35 million dollars. Not exactly chicken feed. Last season he proved THEY CAN'T win without him. He is the guy. EVERY GUY on that roster knows that.

  • @christopherweise438

    @christopherweise438

    11 күн бұрын

    They also didn't prove they could win WITH him. He hasn't earned shit in NY yet.

  • @richardprescott5939

    @richardprescott5939

    9 күн бұрын

    @@christopherweise438 He will have too or they will not be any good. For better or for worse (*and I am betting on better) he is the guy that can best get you wins.

  • @christopherweise438

    @christopherweise438

    9 күн бұрын

    @@richardprescott5939 - He can win alot of games.....and then fold up like a cheap lawn chair in the playoffs. I've lived it for many years here in Wisconsin.

  • @richardprescott5939

    @richardprescott5939

    8 күн бұрын

    @@christopherweise438 First come to NJ. The Jets have had one home playoff game this century. And that was the 4-5 Wild Card game. Second, one of the benefits of not having the team you watch in the playoffs, is you focus on the other games. So I have seen Green Bay. I never once thought of blaming Rodgers for any of the losses that I saw. I remember vividly watching him drive his team down the field and score 7. get the ball back and have his TE with no one within 5 yards drop the perfectly placed pass for a fumble instead of at least a FG. The weather was brutal. They went conservative the rest of the way against an excellent defense and lost on Special teams and a blocked punt late in the game.

  • @LeesTexan
    @LeesTexan13 күн бұрын

    Jets are just always being the Jets!!!!!!!!!! They will have a crap season with or without Rodgers!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @frankpentangeli7945
    @frankpentangeli794513 күн бұрын

    Why does everyone assume Rodgers is going to be any good when he returns? He's a 40-year-old man coming off an Achilles tear. He's gonna SUCK.

  • @mizzo9
    @mizzo913 күн бұрын

    I bet Rodgers was on board for being fined so he wasn’t being treated different than his teammate. This is total BS. It’s all cool except for the click bate patrols. Saleh steps in it some times on the podium. We know this, RELAX

  • @tedmartin4882
    @tedmartin488214 күн бұрын

    Chris, undo that top button. You look like you’re suffocating

  • @fstlnj29
    @fstlnj2914 күн бұрын

    relax yets

  • @thomaswelcomer8443
    @thomaswelcomer844314 күн бұрын

    LUV when the uninformed get triggered. Why can't Florio and his A-Aron bias, wait until he actually has the facts before he opens his piehole and give us a reason to call him derogatory names? And Simms? Ugh... I wish he wouldn't just go along.

  • @markb3786

    @markb3786

    14 күн бұрын

    Well. The absence is unexcused, and AR is being fined. AR didn't show, missing a chance to demonstrate leadership. Those are FACTS.

  • @w00deey12

    @w00deey12

    14 күн бұрын

    @@markb3786those aren’t the only facts, so…

  • @robertopimentel9552
    @robertopimentel955214 күн бұрын

    Can't wait for week one. Lol he's gonna be seeing ghosts and blame it on someone else.

  • @paulciavardoni8069
    @paulciavardoni806913 күн бұрын

    I’m sure he had a very important tin foil hat convention on some remote island in the Pacific!

  • @markb3786

    @markb3786

    12 күн бұрын

    you would be correct

  • @derekcanales8477
    @derekcanales847714 күн бұрын

    Then stop talking about it Florio....no one is making you talk about it twirp

  • @ps91

    @ps91

    14 күн бұрын

    Or you watch it and comment

  • @wfvesely
    @wfvesely14 күн бұрын

    Chris Simms has always been a friend of and a fan boy of Aaron Rodgers. if Aaron Rodgers would disclose what he was doing and maybe more people would judge whether he should be excused or not. Something tells me it's a bullshit reason that's why it's been kept secret. It's funny how Sims has been standing up for Rogers for years and yet attacked someone like Brady who has been nothing but the best teammate possible. That's why Sims has no credibility

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