❤️ consciousness as common ground of experiences, prior to subject object split ♥️

We each are everything there is, not trapped in a finite form, we are formless consciousness. We are infinite beings, not a fantastic fantasy but the ultimate mystery of the self. In the words of carl sagan, "Somewhere..something incredible is waiting to be known." Something incredible is in you.

@rickwyant

Жыл бұрын

Lol

I'm actually blown away by all these discussions making a big deal about consciousness. I think Descartes said clearly, succinctly and accurately: "I think, therefore I am".

@gj1695

Жыл бұрын

👊💥🎯

Thanks for the AI algorithm in the background for recommending this clip again. I was simply flabbergasted at how Deepak has been able to muster enough energy and enthusiasm to shed light on this illusive subject. This was relevant two years ago, it is relevant now, and it will still be relevant tomorrow. It will not be surprising to me that we will still be discussing the same thing in hundred years or even further. No matter how much we will discover, it will still remain illusive for our minds to fathom.

I watch this channel every day. He spoke on some of my favorite topics 👏👏

What has been explained by Deepak Chopra is something that human mind can understand as the ultimate reality.

@gj1695

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Agree.

@jayantaroy4244

6 ай бұрын

A bridge connecting Spirituality with Science.

It's sad to read all these comments... Most if not all people here are just ridiculing the 'person' in the video like 7 years old kids in primary school without actually criticising the ideas that are being discussed. I barely if at all see people ACTUALLY think critically and criticise ideas in an unbiased and neutral way instead of getting personal and troll each other. ....... Now, as a theoretical physicist & lecturer and also a researcher in consciousness studies and philosophy of mind I don't really know Deepak Chopra nor I even care of what people think about him. However, what he is explaining here absolutely make sense and it should also make sense to anyone who can stay open-minded, unbiased and neutral who is also knowledgeable enough to understand multidisciplinary points of view in sciences and philosophies. Who are these wannabe scientists here under YT comment section really? I bet most of these low IQ cockroaches don't even know what critical thinking means nor can even do simple math equations yet are criticising such big ideas! ....... As a professional scientist (who can surely also get technical if being asked the correct questions) I know for a fact that not only we have way too many logical problems with many contemporary theories as the Big Bang, but in many cases we also have ridiculous approaches and epistemologies that would never work in many areas of sciences. Again, I don't know this guy nor I even care how or what is his history, but what he is saying HERE totally makes sense and I dare anyone to challenge and criticise and any one of the topics discussed in the video here in a logical and coherent manner without getting personal by calling people names or ridiculing. I don't even need to get into the profound ideas of the Vedanta schools, Upanishads and the rest of such absolutely incredible spiritual, philosophical and psychological pieces of works as I can already guess most of the people here have no idea what they even mean... This is indeed sad. ....... I can get into the details why the so-called ideology of materialism is an absolute failed attempt to explain the truths of matter when it comes to the fundamental questions. I can get into details about the gazillion interpretations of the QM ideas and the wave/particle duality and many definitions of the technical Wave Function, Observer Effect and problems with linear time. I can get into a debate with anyone over the definition of 'matter' as for any physicist with an open mind, it is more than obvious that fundamentally speaking not two physicist can agree upon the definition of matter or the vacuum. I can get into the problems we are stuck with for about a century now in physics without a single ray of hope coming from anywhere simply because of the tyrants and zealots religiously guarding many out-dated ideas and theories in the physics communities in the academia and would ridicule anyone who would challenge such ideas. I bet most of these YT comment keyboard warriors have no idea what 'the war of finding' and budgets means in the academia. I bet barely anyone knows about the deeply agenda-driven corporate powers who are funding almost all big researches in many scientific areas and impatiently expect positivist result to feed the masses so they could sell even more... Ignorance is indeed bliss for most people on this planet...

@kokotvole2565

4 жыл бұрын

Ok. So you agree with him that atoms are conscious and universe itself is just a big consciousness with some quantum (insert something woo woo here) label? 100y problems in something in physics for a species over 100ky old which has made most of its progress in the last 1000y does not sound so long to me. And what does corporate driven science has anything to do with anything? Yes, everything needs to make money or its not funded in todays world. So what? It sucks, yes. What can we do about it? Suggest something else and ppl will start screaming communist.

@Vlazzyk

4 жыл бұрын

I can understand how you feel regarding all of these peeps. Ordinary people tend to think things are absolute, yet they have no idea about shit really... Even the phrase "nothing is absolute" could be relative actually. But I've found that it's kinda hard to actually get in touch with true open-minded beings in this world.

@valeanne

4 жыл бұрын

Wow. I love your whole “comment”. It spoke to me on such a level, especially if you’re a real theoretical physicist like you say you are... And if you are, I’m grateful to personally hear a scientific mind be open to the eastern philosophies. I Love Deepak’s passion to understand consciousness. Truthfully, he’s the first “Teacher” that came into my life years ago, when I suddenly had the strongest desire to understand such things as: who “I Am” is, what the meaning of life is, what is the Universe, and everything in it, made of - how does it function, what is the Mind, etc. As Deepak’s work/teachings/content came into my awareness for the VERY FIRST TIME, this “magical” and undeniable experience came over me... I felt a deep resonance with the information. What he expressed made complete and total sense to me DESPITE hearing such information for the very first time! Damn.. that whole period of my life was so deeply profound that I almost believed that I was close to being insane ahaha.shttt. Along the journey I also became familiar with the works of some of the mainstream faces such as Bruce Lipton, Eckhart Tolle, Carl Jung, Dean Radin, Joe Dispenza, David Hawkins and completely immersed myself into the tv series”Through the Wormhole”. I don’t possess any type of credentials in any kind of academia, nor am I implying that I am “better” than another -based on what I’m about to say - but solely as someone who simply interacts with other human beings... it does sadden me to know that there are people out there who aren’t aware of such information that’s available to them and that it can be utilized for their own benefit and growth. Anyway, thank you for sharing your thoughts. It help increase my hope for humanity. Also I’m curious to know the agenda of the head honchos up the corporate ladder you are talking about

@shamedkazemini1593

3 жыл бұрын

Wonderful facts , thank you Sir. Only those who have fought for truth and truthfulness it can understand it. Probably a savvy historian can elaborately spot the very point we started to lose our path of search for truth just to the benefit of a profit-driven cult. Yes! It's REALLY sad...

@boywonder8241

2 жыл бұрын

Did you have fun?

Deepak gets it! Robert needs to watch this one over a few times as he relies on the "foolproof" scientific method far too often in these episodes.

Science can be the key to knowing but it cannot be the master key to all knowing.

Good lord, so exhausted of people saying we don’t exist just because we exist differently than we thought we did….. He can’t see his own dogma.

Deepak is the man💯

Consciousness is beyond definition. Anybody who has experienced it knows it.

@piehound

Жыл бұрын

Not so. Apparently Mr. Chopra HAS defined it. It is the ground (or basis) of all experience, all perception, all cognition, all thought, etc etc. Review the clip to find the exact location of his words.

@Imagicka

Жыл бұрын

A classic appeal to ignorance.

@SimplifiedTruth

Жыл бұрын

@@piehound That doesn't define it. It's just telling us what it is doing, allowing etc. "It's where birds fly and balloons float" doesn't define the sky.

@king4bear

Жыл бұрын

Consciousness = subjective experience. Nothing more.

@atlasrising9220

Жыл бұрын

I think consciousness can be defined, however, the frame through which it can be defined has yet to be put together.

WOW!!! Depak put u HUGE WRINKLE in explaining the universe with science alone!! I've never heard his analogical discription put quite that way!!

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Name one thing he said that makes sense. All he did was condescendingly mock science and pretend he has answers. Ones people like to hear.

This topic and description by deepak is so deep.

@JonasAnandaKristiansson

8 ай бұрын

The real talk, of Consciousness/Ishvara/"God/TheOne

If I understand Chopra's position, consciousness is the common ground of all possible experience. It precedes both the perceiver (subject) and the perceived (object). This seems to be different from pan-psychism, which says that everything in the universe possesses some degree of consciousness. Rather, Chopra seems to be saying that consciousness permeates reality like an electromagnetic field, enabling perception and cognition but remaining distinct from the things in the universe. But my day-to-day experience is that I do not share consciousness with the person next to me. Why assert a common, unified consciousness underlying everything? It seems more intuitive, parsimonious and consistent with observation to view ourselves as discontinuous islands of consciousness rather than as rafts adrift a universal sea of consciousness. Either way, whether the nature of consciousness is akin to islands or the sea, we still face the problem of explaining the source and mechanism of its origin.

@delq

4 жыл бұрын

We dont feel the need to explain the origin of energy, causality or why is there something rather than nothing. You sound like you are okay with them having the amount of associated doubt they have but accept them because of their quantified measurable nature. What if consciousness is similar - a fundamental property of the nature that is essential for "existence" to exist and be explained just like the concept of energy etc which are tools that help in explaining the behaviour of the universe.

@delq

4 жыл бұрын

@@GCU-YouNaughtyMonsters yes everything that exists is conscious or consciousness is inevitably a byproduct or necessity for existence to exist. Hypothesis - If you are looking for an objective test then it is not possible because consciousness by nature is first person, but if your motive is for a better theory that better fits the picture then working it backwards is the best approach here which is to understand or more precisely experience consciousness through self introspection and awareness and that is the subjective path and that is led by meditative practices. It might sound like a joke but real people more wiser than any of us have followed this path only to reach a point of awakening which is a grant culmination of insights and realizations that fit together just so that it leads to a highly exuberant form of awareness which illuminates the truth beyond rational explanations and that is the highest form of understanding anyone can have about anything. A good book I am using is The Mind Illuminated by Culadasa John Yates.

@Sprite_525

4 жыл бұрын

David W - I’m glad a student of Mingyur is also a fan of science. I am personally a fan of Buddhism, because the more I look into the actual words of the actual teachers, very few of said anything anti-science or anti-intellectual. Even rebirth: they never claim that belief in rebirth is gained by denigrating science or logic. They modestly claim, ‘having done certain practices, peoples perception and experience is altered, such that they now understand what the apparently silly word rebirth means’ - I like that, though I don’t claim to understand through practice fully

@delq

4 жыл бұрын

@@GCU-YouNaughtyMonsters I dont interpret meditative awakening as being one with unity instead it can be a proof more likely a subjective experiential validation of consciousness to exist even in the absence of any other objects in the mind like thoughts, emotions, feelings and physical sensations. It can show what it feels to be truly aware and experience pure consciousness independent of the objects it illuminates. And to me that's how I define consciousness as a truly subjective phenomena and anything objective and quantifiable that results out of it such as behaviour and intelligence is not at all part of consciousness to me even though they require consciousness to happen. So that seem more like a problem of definition rather than approach.

@Sprite_525

4 жыл бұрын

David W - I wouldn’t categorize my view as that harsh against rebirth, but I understand that you’re skillfully writing for others who read this and not just me. This is KZread after all. Psychedelics and open inquiry, phenomenology, and being close with my teachers has led me to an openness to rebirth that I never thought possible when I was a positivist-type. The west seems still so new and unfamiliar with the framework of dharma. May we all navigate the west with dharma and karma on our side.

This is good! Depak is spot on!

he actually makes a lot of valid points: the human body itself is an activity of the universe, the big bang being invalid, empiricalness being a species specific mode of experience, etc.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

He strawmans science at every step. No one says humans are not of the universe, in fact science proved it. The Big Bang theory is not invalid, just because it explains thousands of things and not a couple. Empiricism is not a mode of experience, it is a method to step outside of experience to remove subjectivity, which by the way is all Deepok has is subjective experience. Science has both.

His comments on science is right. It produces a partial kind of truth only, and has nothing to say about more important things like how to live a happy life, how to help other instead of having wars, etc.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Yet he had nothing to say about how to live a happy life either. All he does is criticize the honest work of science and make wild claims with no substance. Yet everyone likes it, so they agree.

I simply admire Dr Deepak Chopra. I also salute him for making it simple for everyone to understand what's consciousness and what has been said in Advita vedanta ancient Indian philosophy thousands of years ago. This should be slowly introduced in school education all over the world and if this is done I think many many problems which the world is facing today will also slowly vanish. I hope that day will come sooner or later.

He is amazing and very accurate

It takes one to know one!? But one takes one without realising it is one. One is possible!? Too know 1!? Life’s journey explained. Thank-you for placing more direction signs,with access clarity.

Deepak presents questions and answers that matter--concepts that one must test to see for themselves.

Excellent..... thanks 🙏.

Deepak nailed it. Best video ever!

How does he not realize that he is using his own cognition and perception to come up with his own “map”, his own “system”?

@anteodedi8937

Жыл бұрын

Yep all he offered was self defeating, lol.

I do believe electrons do have some sort of perspectival aspect to them , they just don't perceive in the same as a human. Its a like plant which doesn't talk but is 100% conscious.

@lr2357

2 жыл бұрын

“Consciousness is that which relates self and other.” - Richard Smoley

I'd say its not even a matter of true or false but rather that science only(not derogatory) studies/models the "behaviors" of nature & should not even be expected to settle questions about what nature "is", in & of itself, except of course to rule out certain ideas which is also progress. It MUST be used to inform our narratives but, ALL science is a study of perceptions(instrument assisted or otherwise) which is quite obviously only a part of the picture. Predicting behaviors is all we need to acquire useful technology however.

Consciousnes means aware of whole thing and none. None is meaningless without experinece. Thinking is a state of consciousness. The work of thinking is to be experienced, to which no Law applies. Experience and experiencer are two different things. Time gender reality belief perceptions it all exists based on experience. Experiencer is thinking, state of consciousness. No Law applies to thinking. That is why experience format understand that I am experiencing myself.

A beings ability to assign meaning to information, as sustained through space and time: My definition of consciousness.

@Jasitus

3 жыл бұрын

Your definition disregards innocuousness

@timothyhall7606

3 жыл бұрын

Ok, could you elaborate?

Terrific explanation !

@stargod3064

2 жыл бұрын

🛎 watch it again

@mithrandir2006

10 ай бұрын

He has some insight but he's not very precise. He says "consciousness is really what makes experience possible". But this origin of consciousness which surely must exist is not described. Nevermind explained as a scientific model of it.

I used to think that Sam Harris was too harsh with Deepak, but now I understand. His claims were incoherent, rife with category errors. 1. Lawrence Krauss was referring to the claim of an ontic deity, not the inward journeys of mystics. He makes no claim regarding internal experience and Deepak appeared to be manipulative in suggesting that he does. 2. Science certainly does recognise the observer. Double blind tests? The quantum observer problem? That's why we develop tools to try to overcome our anthropocentric sensory biases. 3. Deepak complains about the Big Bang and the Planck epoch but his internal journeys offer no credible alternative. Scientists have simply followed the evidence and Deepak makes another category error, in presenting relatively objective explorations as equivalent to subjective explorations. 4. Yes, many mysteries exist, hence the search to come Closer to Truth, but Deepak is heading the other way. He seems to see the fact that scientists don't know everything as evidence of its limitations. I think this is because he comes from the standpoint of dogmatic "complete" traditions and he does not understand the idea that science can be a work in progress. As a philosophy fan, I see scientific information as the baseline from which one may observe relations, dynamics, or use as the basis for extrapolation and speculation. Science is not the enemy of truth, but one tool. Internal exploration is another source of information, and it provides information in its own domain but it's no replacement for science unless we wish to go backwards by a few millennia. You cannot land a craft on an asteroid without science, just as you can't work on personal issues without looking within. Ultimately, science is a social activity. You observe and compare notes with others - specifically in recognition of the limits of your own perception.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Great analysis, I hope his sheep read this, because they seem to be hypnotized by his word salad. I think he is a multimillionaire because he plays to peoples inferiority complex by tearing down experts, strawmanning them and then feeding us his simplistic vague repackaged religion.

Great explanation

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Of what? He strawmans science, then insults, rambles about mystics and GMOs, and offers not want shred of help.

outstanding work. I agree with Kneedktlive.

I don't know about how true is what is shared here.. Seems interesting though. However as a thought experiment or rather as a subjective experiment.. I wonder how does a person who is born deaf, dumb, blind and born non-sensitive feel like (now know this feeling is truly internal as all senses are cut off/ non existent). A good thought to ponder upon I reckon.

regardless of what people think about him I think listening to him makes you feel good about holding beliefs that make you feel happy

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Which is the exact opposite of knowledge and science.

@hsbdkdndn

10 ай бұрын

​​​​@@ihatespam2if knowledge and science didn't make us feel happy then we wouldn't do it either

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

@@hsbdkdndn that is absolutely undisputedly wrong. Many discoveries are fought against and denied. Much is counter intuitive. No, you can hide from the fact that certain ideas are excepted despite the lack of evidence BECAUSE it placates people. Once religion was put on the back burner by science, even science minded people are prone to answers they like rather than the actual answer. But the method of science is how we weed out our subjective bias.

♥️ transcending the subject object split; buying big bang theory, relative cosmology instead of absolute cosmology that is consciousness; framing ideology as truth ♥️

The scientific method does not claim to have arrived at the absolute truth, it is only a method that helps us relatively and objectively get closer to the truth. A method to get out of the possibly endless caves we are in. Also, giving names to things helps - it is clear to anyone with sane mind that oxytocin is our collective labeling - does this mean that it is not backed by material that exists in reality in some way related to our description? We know that the scientific description is at least partial, but this is part of the game of getting relatively and objectively closer to the truth and getting out of the cave. Beyond that, attacking some ideas does not necessarily justify other ideas like he's claiming. Chopra's ideas are partly interesting and may also contribute to thinking about philosophical ideas that are worth trying to objectively verify - but they do not necessarily have an advantage over any other person's idea, as long as he does not present the advantages of his ideas in a clear and coherent manner. It sounds like panpsychism in a more scientific language.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Yes, but he delivers it as an attack on science. He insults and misrepresents science. This gathers his legions of followers and has made him millions. I see him as very counter productive.

Though I am a science guy, a materialist, I personally study philosophy and try to corelate science with it. What Deepak is saying really makes sense. I mean quantum physics itself pushing us to non materialism, and also pushing us more to the consciousness as the most fundamental phenomena. I mean we need to learn more about consciousness.

Last answer was insane

"I have several problems with that! Science is not a method for learning truth!" The A-bomb!

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Tells me why that is impressive. Seriously. If I said. Deepok is simply wrong, would you say “Boom! A-Bomb!” Wouldn’t you want me to provide something to back it up. Or would you just be swayed by my confidence and ability to say a bunch of insults or impressed that I said something you already believe? Because I don’t see one shred of information given by Deepok.

Apparently there is no intelligent "comeback" to Mr. Chopra's last comments. Except to say . . . YOU'RE RIGHT.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

I think it was the opposite. Why debate with a moron. He said nothing, except insulted science, blamed science, strawman science.

First time I have seen Robert being so skeptical about host answer. At last he couldn’t find a question but to wonder what deep illusion we all are in

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Hardly, he was baffled by this con and his bullshit. This multimillionaire has been speaking this word salad for years and he is good at it. Look at these comments, everyone agrees with him, but he provided nothing but conspiratorial anti-science rhetoric and vague promises of mystics who firgured it all out years ago. Yet he doesn’t name them or what they figured out, except, we should all be loving each other and saving the planet, as of those revelations from back then have help us one iota.

Might energy encompass subject - object experience? Energy in subjective awareness as well as objective reality?

The entire concept of consciousness, mind and thoughts are beyond science. The mental body is a very complex subject so is consciousness.

That was a fascinating discussion ! Thanks !

This is such a fascinating conversation.

Now this man's description of consciousness is the BEST there is !!!!

I think it would be correct to say that the ideas of Deepak Chopra are more like a philosophical perspective instead of scientific hypothesis or theory. As such, it cannot be tested and it is not scientifically accurate because it cannot be validated or verified by the scientific method. If Deepak Chopra ever expressed something tangible, or of practical importance, then we could measure the truthfulness of those claims.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Very polite and nice way to say it. He has been seeking this word salad for decades. He has the answer, not sure when he will prophetically reveal it and save the world from these horrible scientist.

I can buy into such mode of logic even though logic by that definition is also a "map", a way of separation. This here is a highly interesting interview. Clearly, scientist will object forgetting that they only "know" anything by virtue of their own share of consciousness. It is not that complicated, maybe comparable to our eyes that cannot see themselves, but are very near to us. Even if the whole brain machinery would be taken apart, there will never be any piece that can explain consciousness. Tge reality of consciousness is so obvious, and still people will reject the very thought of it being fundamental since they seem to be shutting down even the possibility of understanding it on a deeper level. It is not religion, or philosophy.

He's basically saying science reveals only what can be accessible, but cannot reveal what is inaccessible. The inaccessible parts are the blind spots that science cannot see. It's like not knowing what a room looks like in the dark, unless you turn on the light. Light is a physical medium and is responsible for revealing the layout of the room. Well, if light is this medium and assists the observer's observation, then what medium assists the observer's observation of fundamental reality? Night vision goggles and infrared seem to be not enough. The best sensors in the world seem to be not enough to determine what dark matter is. There is something deeply inaccessible in science, and deeply inaccessible in all of our own perceptions. Or, is there?

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

It would be great if that was all he was saying. But he is saying he knows what that inaccessible part is, how to get there, and what it means and is misrepresenting science as saying they know too, but are wrong. All of that is BS

Finally

Could energy provide experience of conscious awareness?

I see consciousness as an appetite. We have an appetite for energy, and satiating that need results in digestion. We also have an appetite for information, and satiating that need results in consciousness. If you are denied energy, your digestive system starts eating itself. A prolonged period of being denied energy that can be absorbed results in death. Likewise, if you are denied stimuli, your mind will consume itself. A prolonged period of being denied stimulus results in death. How? Without stimuli, all we have are memories. If you continue over a long time to be deprived of sensory input all you will have are memories of memories, and then memories of memories of memories. In the end, there's simply no point, no motivation, and the mind would simply give up.

Very well said. Consciousness is everywhere and truth is unattainable.

so eloquent

This is where I would like to have some input from Annaka Harris.

Quite unexpected of CTT. Here’s why: Good poetry can carry some elements of truth about human life (experience, emotions, morality ...) combined with beauty. The poet and the reader both know that the imagery and metaphor in poetry are not to replace the reality or science. Good mysticism, religious or irreligious, also (like good poetry) can have a place beside (not opposite to) science. What this gentleman says about consciousness, mysticism, and his critique of the Big Bang theory is just bad poetry and shallow mysticism. Not only isn’t CTT a good platform for his confused assertions about the truth, but also he shouldn’t be taken seriously in sensible poetry or mysticism circles. Guys like him may bring new audience to the show but at the cost of tarnishing the credibility of CTT. Scientists and philosophers (even religious thinkers who are committed to some rationality, like William Lane Craig) try to be clear, even when they know little about grand questions on cosmos, consciousness, and free will. But people like him muddy the discussion by bombardment of jargons borrowed from science and mysticism in a very incoherent way. They are “not even wrong” in their assertions about cosmos and consciousness.

@raindeer3428

4 жыл бұрын

once you understand consciousness , you will realize that materialism is the delusion and the superstition that all humanity fell for but sadly you don't

@siyn8755

2 жыл бұрын

You are confusing reality with science - science like poetry is but another metaphor to try and describe an underlying reality. It is a tool, a crutch to be used and discarded once its purpose has been served or when it has become redundant in explaining phenomenon that is beyond language and numbers. That is a limitation of language/semantics. Words, numbers, symbols, equations can go only so far as to describe any underlying reality, and that will forever remain a limitation. It's like using words to explain a sensation or experience to someone that has never before experienced that sensation. Their understanding of that will at best be an approximation as they will try and invoke some other familiar experience. But they have limited knowledge/confidence of the underlying reality/truth.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Finally, someone here is is blinded by bullcrap. I am very sad to see nearly every comment here buys his vague useless platitudes with out any thought. Thank you.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

@@raindeer3428really. So how does one “understand consciousness” Deepak couldn’t even define it. And what makes you so sure you have found it but not those who disagree with you? Sounds like religious arrogance to me. And Deepak calls science arrogant after creating strawman versions and lying about what he knows. What was his angle? Some vague, unnamed mystics got it figured out. Science is wrong because of the misuse of it? So, doesn’t that condemn his so called mystics too? Why have not their brilliance shone fruit of salvation? Because he is all talk and insult and no substance. But people like the sound of his words and the way he makes it sound like regular folks know better than the experts and like all religion, that inferiority complex leads them to passive aggressive philosophies where they are the superior ones.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

@@siyn8755you are confusing subjective experience with reality. No surprise, that is Deepak con. He appeals to the fact that there is serious issues with subjectivity, but he blames science, the one invention that seriously attempts to overcome this problem. The He strawmans science, insults it, makes claims of mystics who figured it all out, with out reference or substance, or even examples of how they have done anything useful with this great insight they got from “looking within” as if all thinking isn’t looking within. It’s word salad, designed so appeal to people who can’t argue with the experts and can feel passive aggressively superior to those who have discovered things counter intuitive to their feelings, and can then feel good again.

To the point

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

What would that point be? I missed it with all the word salad, strawmaning, insults.

Robert looks like he's ready to give up on the argument by the end of the video...😄. I sympathize.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, give up on talking to this word salad master, who misrepresents science and makes claims he can’t substantiate. I assure you Robert is in no way convinced by this con.

Roberto so far this was your best show on this subject. I know the speaker well I understand he had a big issue recently with Cox and other people. Best of luck Robert, definitely read Quran there's nothing wrong with it.

❤️ system of thought is a map ♥️

So fascinating that all these guys are stuck on the idea of trying to find the most fundamental of all the fundamental versions of consciousness. Assuming automatically that experience isn’t a co-emerging factor of consciousness is quite an assumption to make.

so do I need deepak chopra to explain consciousness to me?.... give me a break!!

@venice7261

2 жыл бұрын

He just talks BS. He is a great charlatan. Watch this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZGuO0Nqgf6zXiJs.html

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Appropriately, he never really does.

top content Rob

" what do we mean by when ( the BB exploding ) when there was no time" ?" How can you have a datable event in time when time didn't even exist" " tell me the location of the BB not only in time but space because space didn't even exist" ? Those are some good questions I don't think science can answer. " where did the BB occur" ? Answer: everywhere " huh " how is that possible since space didn't exist at the time? Deepak is right scientist do create their own methodology.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

No, he strawmans science, so non-scientists will feel less inferior and can pretend they no better than experts. Then he makes millions off of those passive aggressive sheep.

Lets invite him again...and hear the update

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Update of what. He has been slogging this word salad for decades. Same vague ideas, same science insults and strawmen. He already has the answer, him and his mystic buddies. They are just waiting for the right day to save us all from ourselves right before the apocalypse.

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More deeply unscientific use of quantum notation - woowoo

Life is consciousness

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

So, it is meaningless then?

This is the only guy that make sense among all your interviews on consciousness

@gj1695

Жыл бұрын

Agree. He is spot on. Every word of his explanation makes sense.

@uweburkart373

10 ай бұрын

Exactly! As it is not anymore argued from the pure scientific or naturalistic nor the pure physical nor psychic view! It is beyond. And of course you are then in a transcendent or religious Perspektive already. He is a non-dualist like the budhistic perspective of Dalai Lama for instance. All the other interviewees had more or less a pure physicalistic/ materialistic, third-person view, that cannot decipher what "c" is. Deepak is among others like Eckhard Tolle or Rupert Spira the only one able to explain it to the Western Public. In the Asian and Indian traditional beliefs and "sciences" that what he describes was always clear!

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

Some people will buy anything.

@SaxeLAD

10 ай бұрын

He is spouting nonsense word salad

@k-3402

10 ай бұрын

You mean he's the only one saying things about consciousness that you want to hear. It's emotionally appealing, so you agree with it

Mr. Kuhn's big mistake, 'if you want to understand consciousness, then neuro-science is the Last to choose'. The structure of the consciousness is simple in it self, Memory) Instinct, - Gravity, - Feeling, - Intelligence, - Intuition, - Memory, - most of them we recognize in the devices as can do mental functions.

Khun was not too convinced! Nor am I.

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Never seen Lawrence look so confused before This is one rabbit hole he was not comfortable with

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

You misinterpret incredulity. Deepok is a con.

Please see Antontio Damasio for the corrent definition, much more suscint, and understandable

12:34 caption that expression

@deanrobinson2459

4 жыл бұрын

"did i leave the oven on?"

@Domispitaletti

4 жыл бұрын

"I need to control myself. Can't just start laughing here"

@delq

4 жыл бұрын

When you have little awareness of your surroundings because you are high on coke but still want to look like someone who has just solved a partial differential equation

@contenau22

4 жыл бұрын

wow that is some bullshit.

The universe is one thing. UNIverse. Problems begin with ideas and delusions of a separate self versus other. The universe in pockets becomes complex enough that it becomes aware/conscious of itself to varying degrees. Think of it this way: when light hits the eye, an entire universe is created without anything being projected back out of the eye. “I am the light.” “All is Buddha.”

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

You realize that the word “universe,” was made up by humans, and reveals nothing about its actual reality, other than what the human at the time pinned it to be. Calling my selfhood delusional, could easily be countered with me saying you are delusional for not seeing the difference. This universe began at the Big Bang. We don’t know what happened before, despite Deepok dishonestly claiming his strawman version as sciences version. Their could be more than one. Multiverse, see it’s right there in the word, it must be true. This Newage idea that we are the universe looking at itself is poetry and in some sense true, but it won’t pay your internet bill.

Man I believe in the big bang but after that speech I might as well throw that thought in the trash and start all over again. That was powerful.

@uweburkart373

10 ай бұрын

Nice that you are open and admit it! Exactly that happended to me many years ago. We have to be always sceptical and questioning "science" and all Systems of thought and so called "truths"! We are much to much fixed and focused on us, antropocentric and indulged in our own hybris! What if aliens have long mastered and deconstructed our science?! To us it seems "magic", that's what Athur C.Clark said. We have to get our views much wider the today.

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

The Big Bang was not meant to be believed, and Deepok said nothing that science hasn’t said since it first described it. Please don’t let this hack sway you because he has a knack for word salad and telling people what they want to hear.

The split.

Chopra, the truth is that we need to secure our bodies then there would be no wars.

plain and simply brilliant.

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What Deepak just quoted is from Brihadarnyanka upanishad Will the universe exist without you?

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

That is vague word said. What universe, what you, what exist, what is without? Depending on those definitions you can answer it many ways. Either way, it teaches you nearly nothing about reality. If I die, the universe will exist. But when you pin down these con mystics they have nothing to say.

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Deepak, you're brilliant.❤️

@howardrobinson4938

Жыл бұрын

He's a good wordsmith AND comes out of the subcontinent's lineage of iconoclasts. Notice how he looks way to the side after he states he has done science. I wonder what that signifies.

@abguruprasad

Жыл бұрын

@@howardrobinson4938 You are right., He is only a wordsmith., A good orator.,

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

He is a hack, selling his repackaged religion to people who like to think they are rational. Any scientists can tell you his explanations of science are misleading, strawmen, and outright lies.

One ultimate consciousness that manifests collectively allowing collective participation among it's collective parts. One Consciousness really exists that manifests collectively allowing for collective consciousness reality within a participatory collective. Consciousness is like gravity there is only one force called gravity however gravity acts apon the entire reality of what we percieve as the universe. Consciousness acts the same way except in non living things it acts differently. Everything a conscious entity percieves is within consciousness thefore reality is a shared interpretation.

Crazy what the human mind can come up with.

👍 I really like what DC is saying about consciousness, and the value of direct experience as a means to know truth, as opposed to the “map making” of epistemologies/ideologies. The universality of mysticism in all the major world religions (The Perennial Philosophy) as the transcendent experience of pure consciousness is IMO the best evidence for the universality of the Divine. Where I disagree is in DCs denigration of scientific truth. Science may be a map (in contrast to direct experience), but its methodology has proved a fantastically useful and accurate way for us to understand the objective truths of the physical universe and (of no less importance) in improving the lot of millions through technology. Spiritual truth is subjective and individual, Scientific truth is shared and for everyone. We need both Science and Spirituality - there is no contradiction or competition between them. NOMA!

There is a way to validate it, if you are willing to go mystical way like you do scientific way.

I thought awareness of being is consciousness.

Wow I ...... so convincing 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

I cannot understand why you chose to interview the greatest charlatan on the planet.

@bajajones5093

4 жыл бұрын

I cannot understand why you chose to post that nonsense.

Thank you. The “ground” as KM called it. 🥰Eternal. 🌈

Chopra is classy!

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

I would say “slick” is a better description. He is a slimy salesman after all.

The consciousness , is indestructible and eternal. It neither slays, nor can it be slain. It is never, born and it never dies. After coming into existence, it never ceases to be. It is always, permanent and very ancient. It does not suffer, nor can it be tainted. At the time of death it does not die, but leaves the body and enters a new one . Weapons cannot pierce it, fire cannot burn it, water cannot moisten it and wind cannot dry it. It is impenetrable, incombustible, all pervading, stable and immobile. It is invisible, imperceptible and immutable. The Bhagavadgita📖 knows the limitations of human mind to gauge the true nature of the consciousness . Hence, it concurs with the popular notion that no one can exactly know what a consciousness is. One looks at it with great surprise, another speaks about it with great surprise, another hears about it with incredulity and yet another after hearing about it knows it not. The consciousness is superior to everything else in the human being. The senses are great, greater than the senses is the mind, greater than the mind is buddhi and greater than the buddhi is the Self . This is similar to the description of the tattvas (realities) in contrast to the consiousness in the Samkhya. The soul is the highest, eternal reality (tattva), whereas the senses, the mind, intelligence, etc., are finite and dependent realities.

@Flashback_Jack

9 ай бұрын

Not entirely correct. Consciouness is the creative force, yes, but it's not the final state. Consciousness itself is not eternal, but the noumenal reality--the raw awareness that is neither a subjective nor objective experience--that precedes and supports consciousness is atemporal and eternal.

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Good argument Deepak. But I’m starting to feel that life and consciousness are used interchangeably now by everyone

@ihatespam2

10 ай бұрын

It is meaningless the way Deepok speaks. He is word salad master. He talks a lot and says nothing except, criticism. It’s ironic, people like to hear him, I guess his passive aggressive message that regular folks know better than experts is in high demand.

@Flashback_Jack

9 ай бұрын

Life is consciousness at play--it's one of the many elements of consciousness. It's merely one of the Ten Thousand Things* They may as well be interchangeable.

Wow, so Amazing !!!!

Consciousness is to X - as wetness is to water. By this I mean consciousness is not a substance, it is a property or a state. X, as the Greeks knew, was called nous! But what is nous? It simply is the psychical substance that forms duality with matter. The Greeks knew how to explain this this duality, but didn't know it. The key to there approach is buried in Zeno's paradoxes.

Consciousness is the one part of the mind seeing the other part of the mind seeing the one part of the mind seeing the other part of the mind....... the monkey seeing his reflection in the super computer. But she is both. ♥ Chopra, but he needs to work on his words, definitions do exist... rivers too. God is the definition of God. Definitions are the guard rails of our minds.