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@spearheadfinancial8695

Ай бұрын

You’re a GREAT communicator and I appreciate your sobriety in this era of emotional addiction. Please keep doing what you are doing. I hope it will help w race AND political relations.

I'm a life long liberal Native American. The VERY reason why I no longer vote Dem is on display during this debate. I didn't leave the Left, the left me.

@Astarkiller

Жыл бұрын

The left always sucked, they just used ppl with issues like gay rights, welfare and healthcare to fool and trick ppl into voting for them over they years, the left has always been for big government and big power. No dissenting.

@chaosinfusion8127

Жыл бұрын

“The left” has been hijacked by the establishment in order to preserve the status quo.

@Rallylabs

Жыл бұрын

10 years ago I considered myself pretty much mainstream left on almost every issue. Now it’s only like 60 percent. Literal insane nonsense is now being treated as mainstream. The lefties on this panel don’t even seem to believe there is such a thing as too far left. Never mind the history of the past 100 years.

@Schnitz9

Жыл бұрын

Wel you are now voting against your best interest. Educate yourself. Republicans stance on Native America is to " pave paradise and put up a parking lot".

@bloodmoon3155

Жыл бұрын

That's what every right wing say. Bcs on the contrary I was on the right. I was in a tea party rally. AMD yes racism and stupidity are the bond of right wing and Republicans. You wanna be dumb, racist, regressive, then ur a right wing. U care for others, u want freedom, less guns, more science, and technology, less top rich ppl and war mongers. Then ur on the left.. there is no left party in murika. There is far right, and center right. Even far right parties in Europe are to the left of the democratic party.

Listening to Bowman and the BLM person is like entering an echo chamber of hypocrisy. Respect how Coleman stays so calm during their ridiculous tirades.

@TessaTickle

Жыл бұрын

Coleman's calmness is his superpower. Every sane person would get mad at the attitude from the other side.

@anarodriguez6601

Жыл бұрын

His patience is so admirable.

@Because_Reasons

Жыл бұрын

It's totally crazy... they are so completely out of touch.

@bostoncommonterry

Жыл бұрын

African Americans are the most jailed people on earth.

@CKuhn85

Жыл бұрын

@Coleman, you should have challenged Alicia with the following: "Please, before you start your next sentence, figure out how and when you want it to end." I've never seen someone so clearly filibustering, while saying so little, yet exiting the confidence of a master debater. She should have been an evangelical prracher.

This was painful. The politician and the BLM founder were not good faith participants.

@westonmeyer3110

Жыл бұрын

The left has never been good faith in anything.

@julienlavoie6908

Жыл бұрын

A politician and a activist vs two scientifically minded people.

@Boethius411

Жыл бұрын

They never are. The others should have known that going in and prepared for it.

@cinemar

Жыл бұрын

The arrogance that Hughes thinks he can actually have a debate with these people is off the scale.

@stvbrsn

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I generally tend to shy away from deliberate prejudice, but here’s an example of when it’s ok. Right from the start (upon hearing their names and credentials) I never expected *either of them* to be good faith participants in an actual debate.

Jamaal Bowman complaining that people were interrupting his point right after he interrupted Coleman..... Captain oblivious

@biblicalworldview1

Жыл бұрын

Glad others noticed this! He was interrupting Coleman on Coleman's question.

@johnjohnstone8506

9 ай бұрын

yeah that was painful to sit through. Just talking over everyone and not making a coherent argument. "show me the polls", "you can't trust polls" "that's not what my polling indicates". Embarrassing. Social issues are highly complex and require more then a univariable, low resolution, first level analysis. I'm really glad Colman takes a big picture approach and talks about these serious issues in a logical, non tribal way. He is definitely interested in understanding the cause and solution, instead of just arguing an ideology. Good job staying calm. Love your channel.

She's like 'How can you believe a pole that's %60 white and %17 black?'. ...ummm that's what the population looks like, Lady. jfc

@konstantine1976

Жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing. She was inferring the idea of “equity”. I’m guessing if you pulled the string she would suggest polling an equal percentage of people from all demographics.

@johnnyfive9815

Жыл бұрын

​@konstantine1976 exactly; she knows if she says the word, she admits the ideological stands of the party. They don't want equality.

@Ghettoroyalty212

Жыл бұрын

I laughed when I heard that. Notice she mentioned they surveyed "white men and black ppl" on the Quinnipiac poll. I can tell she was not being honest to make her point.

@anarodriguez6601

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and she has the nerve to say it with such a condescending tone. Someone doesn’t understand simple math.

@Schnitz9

Жыл бұрын

What a bunch or ignorant racist blather. You don't understand the Electoral College. Your logic would result in California & New York determining the outcome of any federal election. It's about equitable 'representation'. Try reading something other than comics.

I love how Bowman keeps demanding data while never providing any for his claims.

@jaydeeh77

Жыл бұрын

Word! 💯

@sofvines3940

Жыл бұрын

And then says "polls show" 😅😅 he's a mess

@benp4877

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that too.

@jgambler1188

Жыл бұрын

Thought the same

@lpadron13

Жыл бұрын

That's because he's an intellectual lightweight who knows he can be exposed at any second so blustering about polling data while never asking the same of the BLM founder is the way to go....

46:30 _"Only 17% of those respondents were black."_ ONLY? African Americans make up ~13.6% of the US population. So technically, black people were _overrepresented_ in that Quinnipiac poll she was citing, in addition to the white men.

@cousingreg7480

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely unreal, her innumeracy. But notice when ideologues like this make obvious mistakes, they’re always in the direction of supporting their own (incorrect) POV. Interesting how that works.

@johnnyfive9815

Жыл бұрын

Bowman couldn't do the math in that one

@Ghettoroyalty212

Жыл бұрын

Even with the overrepresentation they still don't agree with her position. She couldn't give a percentage of the Black ppl she polled regularly who think the party isn't left enough. 😂😂😂. Anything to get funding smh.

@odysseuslost

Жыл бұрын

Because it's about power not principles

@zyzzer

Жыл бұрын

Anything short of 100% is insufficient for race baiters and hustlers like these.

I have never had a conversation with a WOKE person that ended well. All became evasive, or devolved to insults.

@IntelligentArtefact

Жыл бұрын

What is a woke person?

@moodrahkamite818

Жыл бұрын

@@IntelligentArtefact usually someone who is capable of seeing actions of injustice everywhere. Except for when committing those very same actions themselves.

@MsChitterchat

Жыл бұрын

@@IntelligentArtefact A woke person is someone who thinks they are progressive without giving any thought to unintended consequences, truth, history and human nature. A woke person wants to be accepted by their contemporaries for their ‘acceptable beliefs’ much like a religion or a cult.

@IntelligentArtefact

Жыл бұрын

@@MsChitterchat Nobody CLAIMS to be woke. It is a ridiculous insult by right wing thugs against people that have a brain.

@JohnDoe-ne1ni

Жыл бұрын

Yes that woman went full ignorant mode, she had a really strong racist vibe coming off of her.

Thanks Coleman, you tried to warn them.

Did I miss the part where somebody asks Ms. Garza where the BLM money is?

@smak387

Жыл бұрын

😂

@MrGgabber

Жыл бұрын

Invested in a few mansions for herself

@Mihaaurora1970

Ай бұрын

Weed?

I am a lifelong liberal Democrat, and I say yes, yes, YES! I AM SERIOUSLY considering leaving the party.

@imnotsmartbutimdumb

Жыл бұрын

Do it. If you really believe it you gotta make your voice heard and leave, if enough people show them that this is too crazy they will be forced to reel it back in. Currently there is no way I’d vote democrat even though I always used to, if in ten years or so they come back to reality I would gladly vote for them again but not the way it is now.

@tommyhinzo7

Жыл бұрын

I left the GOP because of the insanity there. Come meet me somewhere in the middle.

@therainman7777

Жыл бұрын

Do it and don’t look back. I’m a lifelong liberal myself, but they have simply gone insane. Disassociate yourself from them, I promise you will feel great about doing it.

@Gabriel-pt6tq

7 ай бұрын

​@therainman7777 but there'd nowhere to go. I'm not voting Republican.

@kham6006

3 ай бұрын

@@Gabriel-pt6tqthe democrats have not moved left enough -enjoy the life they want you to have -bowman’s stupidity is enough to vote red ! Blue no matter who -SMH

Jamaal Bowman is an embarrassment!

The idea that "cureing poverty" is just something we could do, but just don't want to is insane.

@em3sis

Жыл бұрын

There will always be a bottom 20%. There's a bottom 20% of Olympic athletes but the worst one is in the top 1% of the general public in terms of athleticism. The problem with a party that advocates for the poor is that it now becomes in the party's incentive is to make more poor people. They do not want to "cure poverty", because it would erode their voter base.

@dang1861

Жыл бұрын

@@em3sis Nor do they want to "end racism". Unfortunately for them, the supply of racism does not meet the demand for it.

@biblicalworldview1

Жыл бұрын

It's disempowering. How about telling poor people THEY can fix their OWN poverty. Finish high school. Get a job. Wait until marriage to have children.

@milton7763

Жыл бұрын

Yes, those are the type of statements that make me ask myself “Why am I still listening to this guy”

@Because_Reasons

Жыл бұрын

It's up there with (we've had the cure for cancer for years, but big pharma has been hiding it) it's called 'juicing' lol

Omg her smug laugh every time….

@nothingreally1234

Жыл бұрын

that was driving me CRAZY. How demeaning.

@benp4877

Жыл бұрын

And the “right”? at the end of what were obvious falsehoods. Perhaps the most obnoxious millennial trait.

@casebeth

Жыл бұрын

Yah she was super disrespectful.

@thesh1ttyactivist

Жыл бұрын

One thing to laugh when it's an obvious absurdity. But she was just condescending (even when she was wrong).

@Schnitz9

Жыл бұрын

@@nothingreally1234 snowflake much?

Coleman is right about the changes in voters. I'm considering switching to Republican because of exactly what Coleman has stated. Sadly, neither party is attractive to people who are in the middle.

Well done Coleman - how you keep cool amongst insufferable narcissist ideologues like Bowman, is admirable and impressive as always. Keep doing what you do 👍🏼. We need your sanity and groundedness.

Too far cultural left. Not far left enough economic left. Or, rather a weird mix of corporate coddling with a few of the least effective but high rhetorical visibility left economic ideas mixed in to hide the basic corporate capture.

@gabrielsyme4180

Жыл бұрын

☠️ Socialism kills ☠️

@maklov11

Жыл бұрын

You explain exactly why the question is so flawed. The participants (some of them) did try to define the parameters at least.

@user-ii9kh4ux3o

Жыл бұрын

This comment needs to be higher

@eemoogee160

Жыл бұрын

Bingo

@sylvester5022

Жыл бұрын

Perfect answer. The cultural left wing is practically symptomatic of the democrats pandering to corporations.

Whatever rhetorical power she thinks they hold, the faux laugh and "right?" tics get tiresome very quickly.

@liquidantonym6322

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure it plays great in her community and among her peers…to the rest of us it’s just gross.

"Racialised medicine is not a thing." I cannot believe she waited til her closing to make such an obviously absurd claim.

@immensus

Жыл бұрын

She is a mocking and disminishing speaker. Shame is her primary source.

@ColbyARussell

Жыл бұрын

@@immensus the persistent snickering was obnoxious. These are high school tactics-on par with, "everyone thinks you're weird; you don't want everyone to think that, do you?"

@adamnoble1689

Жыл бұрын

Because she desperately wants to keep that operation a secret. CRT in medicine is a huge operation right now.

@manoverboard321

Жыл бұрын

I hate her stupid fake laughs and fake smug "kindness". All that's missing is saying her opponent's first names like she is addressing a child. She's doing a Kamala harris impression.

@roscoewhite6347

Жыл бұрын

Immediately followed by her saying she doesn't even know what it is. But she's also sure it's not a thing.

"Woke" should not become synonymous with the left. I'm an anti-woke leftist and advocate for class reductionism on economic questions.

@westonmeyer3110

Жыл бұрын

You are an irrelevant minority merely empowering wokeness by voting for Democrats.

@benp4877

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I describe myself in that exact way as well. There’s at least two of us!

Well that escalated quickly… it’s like Jamal has never spent time with people who disagree with him.

I tried to watch this but the level of intellectual dishonesty, cognitive dissonance and manipulative doublespeak was so infuriating I had to shut it off. Props to Coleman for facing the futility of trying to inject reason into that mess.

The politician literally can not answer a question wo slipping into campaign slogans

@brianmeen2158

Жыл бұрын

It’s why politicians are pointless to talk to in the open like this

@jasper_of_puppets

Жыл бұрын

I like how he pretends to not even know what the term _woke_ means in this context. Completely disingenuous.

@McClain3000

Жыл бұрын

It actually triggers me. It reminds me of talking politics with certain family members. He acts like he is there to debate but really just moral grandstands.

@TheAmaye

Жыл бұрын

I didnt sense much critical thinking and rebuttals from the blm and congressman as it pertains to what their opponents were saying. It was much more so repeating talking points in my opinion. I was hoping to really get a nuanced debate but what often is the case are people taking the safe talking point approach. I believe the pro left democrat people were to high profile and cant afford to get sound bites that go against their group. Next time have 2 left leaning high profile podcasters instead. They are more read in and maybe can offer pushback to the anti left arguement

Valiant effort, Coleman. Unfortunately, the only way to get their attention is to stop voting for them.

I used to be a liberal. The current liberal/Democrat is absolutely CRAZY... NUTS...

@nancydelvalle7728

7 ай бұрын

You’re probably still a classical liberal and should be comfortable with that. The radical leftists have taken over the Demonrat party and has left the classical liberal with no home. So I’ve heard over and over. I’m a reformed demonrat myself. I’m now a Republican, not because the people are better but the party has not been taken over as of yet, by the radical left and in my opinion not by the radical right no matter how much the Demons claim otherwise. We believe in the constitution, the rule of law (although the legal system needs reforming), traditional education (F that woke crap), the 1st amendment is the most important to me.

@disf5178

7 ай бұрын

I think they're evil. Actually EVIL.

@DeVill3007

7 ай бұрын

@@disf5178 They really are, and also they cheat in elections.

Give them hell Coleman 🤛

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@wesleysnipes1873

Жыл бұрын

Wish you would have pushed back more on the "congressman's" claims about the border.

@Schnitz9

Жыл бұрын

All this talk about party switching and no one addressed COVID. Of course there was party switching in favor of the Republicans. When you have the biggest pulpit you have the greatest effect. That's a historically proven fact. Agent Orange pushing bleach and lasers etc.. coerced so many lemmings that it was inevitable. Regardless of any of that a Democrat still won. The right cries about voter fraud with ZERO evidence. Faux pays out three quarters of a BILLION dollars (the largest settlement in US history) because of their lies and they still try to sell themselves as the party of righteousness and family values. Get your house in order before passing judgement on others.

@alisaamundson8245

6 ай бұрын

Love your content! Paying now.... Happily! Thank you for bringing clarity and light into complex issues!

Official CDC website: "To build a healthier America for all, we must confront the systems and policies that have resulted in the generational injustice that has given rise to racial and ethnic health inequities. We at CDC want to lead in this effort-both in the work we do on behalf of the nation’s health and the work we do internally as an organization." Garza: "racialized medicine is not a thing. Hahaha!" Yeah, just like critical race theory is not a thing in schools. These democrat activists are digging their own graves and happy to drag the entire country into it. The future of this country is grim, between the Republican corporate lackeys and loonies and the Democrat corporate lackeys and woke red brigades.

@jasper_of_puppets

Жыл бұрын

Down with the duopoly!

@LogicSpeaks

Жыл бұрын

I’ve had multiple conversations with family about the fact that CRT is in fact taught in schools all over the country. I’ve seen countless articles denying it and a few that actually show the DATA that in fact there are many schools that are teaching CRT “light” (CRT for kids) which isn’t even hidden since the schools have website sections that literally talk about taking “values” from CRT. This is depressing because in many ways I am center left but the whole CRT, Policing and the crazy Trans issues rare so batshit crazy I’m getting much closer to stop voting for any person on the left.

@Astarkiller

Жыл бұрын

Dude the prices, price of living and how taxes went down under republicans, they don’t care about the Elites they care about poor ppl getting rich and having money to do so, also lowering the cost of living and government, i live in the cheapest place in california because it’s red in a blue state and it’s still more expensive here then many many red states.

@Astarkiller

Жыл бұрын

@CCRider wow ur an idiot…schools, corporations, universities, colleges, Hollywood, media, democrats, in our government, it’s everywhere. Have u been deaf, blind and dumb?

@Lilladdish

Жыл бұрын

@CCRider the applied version of CRT is most surely being implemented in schools, if you read the CRT law school theory you will see it has an applied principle. I’m pretty sure you haven’t read it tho.

We need a third party. Some of us are firmly in the middle. We have extremists on both sides.

@gogeta667

Жыл бұрын

I don't see how Republicans are seen as extremists. They're barely center right of most issues.

@williamerdman4888

Жыл бұрын

Im sorry, Republicans are nowhere near as far right as the Democrats are far left. No comparison..,I say that a registered independent and someone who has voted forboth parties.

@dances_with_incels

Жыл бұрын

A third party is a crack pipe dream. What would they even run on?

@schenksteven1

Жыл бұрын

@@williamerdman4888 I would disagree. I am a somewhat left of center libertarian, and I find just as many wackos on the right as I do on the left.

@gogeta667

Жыл бұрын

@@schenksteven1 Who do you think is a wacko?

We should thank Mr. Bowman for his confession through projection, any poll that he or any other Progressive sites is probably crap.

@jasper_of_puppets

Жыл бұрын

Bowman: Where's the data?! Data: Here I am, does this satisfy you? Bowman: Well.......

@noahjwhite

Жыл бұрын

The only data I remember them citing was BLM polls. Even then, it was more of a "Well Thats not my experience" than actual numbers. Coleman gives them solid poll numbers From Gallop and they just dismiss it.

“The Democratic party moving too far left is not a thing” The electorate has left the chat

She got off the freeway at the first exit and ended up trapped on racial Ave.

@kham6006

3 ай бұрын

She’s made millions on racial ave -off the backs of race hustlers

Jamaal has been too used to a world that tolerates this type of behavior because he’s in American politics

Jesus christ, Coleman’s opponents made my skin crawl. The BLM lady made him reread her name at the end because he got one letter wrong.. shows you where her priorities are.

Jamal - "We need to get big corporate money out of politics!" Alicia - "I'll take it!"

Maybe they should debate if fire alarms look too much like door opening controls.

Bowman: *interrupts Coleman* Moderator: I'd like to let someone else in now. Bowman: But, I wasn't finished interrupting Coleman!

Fear mongering is a singularly republican issue? What?

@shortstraw4

Жыл бұрын

Apparently they haven't heard of the fear mongering climate agenda. Last I checked it was a leftist phenomenon

@gabrielsyme4180

Жыл бұрын

That’s been the stupidest talking point since forever. This coming from the same people that said Trump started WWIII.

@brianmeen2158

Жыл бұрын

Yeah we have to try and get out of the red vs blue nonsense. It kills the ability to really talk about these issues

@jasper_of_puppets

Жыл бұрын

@@brianmeen2158 Agreed. Down with the duopoly!

Coleman, much love for so succinctly articulating the issues. I have been a lifelong Democrat and am ready to jump ship but cannot support the right either. I am feeling lost at sea.

@valencia4215

Жыл бұрын

I am an Independent voter and vote for politicians that have sensible policies. The election-denying Republicans are scary people but I'd rather support a moderate Republican than a "woke" Democrat.

@njigyfd

Жыл бұрын

you are NOT alone

@eleanorc.6659

Жыл бұрын

6o year old liberal Dem here. I voted Republican for the first time in 2020. I have no regrets. Dems ae hurting the less fortunate.

@tomfullery9710

Жыл бұрын

I've never belonged to any political party. Too much mindless tribalism. Just figure out what your values and principles are and vote according to those (regardless of what party a candidate represents)

@benp4877

Жыл бұрын

Many such people

When asked if it's possible to go too far left, she says yes, but only in the sense that it might alienate too many voters to win. Based on what she said, there's nothing that she would consider too far left in principle, or even in practice assuming it wouldn't lose Democrats the vote

Is it just me or "let's be clear about this" a phrase that is solely used by someone who is about to make some stuff up? 😅

@benp4877

Жыл бұрын

That’s been my experience. Except for Bernie sanders. He uses it a lot, but unlike a certain someone here, he actually means what he says after it.

@sofvines3940

Жыл бұрын

@@benp4877 Bernie Is a Saint! Lol you're right he's the sole exception! I don't agree with his politics but he is the only one of his ilk I have genuine respect for. He really does mean well.

@dervishmichaels9147

Жыл бұрын

That's one of the phrases when my bullshit detector starts going off. Right along with "Trust me, I'm an expert."

@ab7974

11 ай бұрын

@@dervishmichaels9147 I know I’m late to the party but, “I know because I talk to a lot of [demographic].”

Bowman: Where is your DATA?? Where are your POLLS??? ALSO Bowman: Data is MISLEADING!!! Polls are USELESS!!

From an economic perspective they are not left wing enough.

If you're a politically homeless liberal like me, watching a video like this is frustrating but also a breath of fresh air. This is why we don't get actual change of any kind, and why all of politics is theatre and optics. Some are worse than others, but these two are pretty lousy. Just shout, or laugh your way out of an uncomfortable situation, or follow up a great point from your opponent by changing the subject. Hughes and Teixeira were really on point and at least took the debate seriously.

@Astarkiller

Жыл бұрын

No we don’t get actually change cause we don’t vote for the right side wen we are suppose to, the media cares dumb ppl into not voting or voting for he wrong party cause they call them racist and bigots and ppl buy it.

@Astarkiller

Жыл бұрын

Vote republican, u don’t have to call urself one, politics isn’t everything, vote for the better party.

@Lilladdish

Жыл бұрын

@@Astarkiller you don’t have to be a republican but you cannot be a democrat

@aslaammahdi3244

11 ай бұрын

@@Astarkiller facts

@disf5178

7 ай бұрын

Voting Republican is the best message to the current democrats; that they have become loathesome.. detestable. They claim to be the party of honor, transparency and integrity. Nothing could be further from the truth. Their demagoguery.. their racism.. their media propagandists.. their lust for power.. it's horrifying.

Scott's question to Alicia was incredibly poignant. So many weasel words to not betray what she actually believe. Too far left to win but not left enough for her socialist leanings.

Bowman is the sort of guy who who throw a boat anchor to a drowning person, just because he feels like he's trying to help.

Jesus this was painful to listen to. The dude interrupted Coleman then accuses others of interrupting him. Classic. Reminds me of my conversations with my borderline sister. So much fun!

Alicia having to READ her opinions adds to the inauthentic vibe. The entire statement read like a social media post

Isn’t that what this is all about - the Dems/leftists have lost touch with liberalism

how can you have a debate with people whose response to any issue is that it's not a real thing? they are gaslighting you and not arguing in good faith coleman, unfortunately.

@brianmeen2158

Жыл бұрын

Agree and we have made no progress in this area in the past few years. I’ve pretty much given up on caring about it at this point

@ColbyARussell

Жыл бұрын

It'd be great if Coleman went back on Briahna Joy Gray's show (or vice versa) to specifically talk about (a) this debate, and (b) re-opening the issue of her characterization of him as a conservative and the presumptuousness that led to her making those remarks.

@russellharvey7096

Жыл бұрын

@@ColbyARussell (b) Yeah, he should have jumped on her for that - seems like a significant issue - she just went on like it was nothing.

@nothingreally1234

Жыл бұрын

It is beyond frustrating. It is gaslighting period. The way they echoed their faithful twitter mob with the "WHERE'S THE DATA?!?!?" to people who provided the data and then completely disregarded it and smugly laughed because the data did not align with their data. It gets you nowhere. It's why we are in this position in this country today. So disheartening. So happy we have Coleman to fight the good fight.

Some of us who don't vote are sick of BOTH parties.

Might Bowman screaming like a child be one of the "frustrating" points in the debate that Coleman mentioned?

@disf5178

7 ай бұрын

At least he didn't pull the FIRE ALARM

Oh nicely done at the end Coleman

Please get Michael Shellenberger on your show.

It was a short debate for everyone except Mr Bowman. I thought no one have really raised the issue of how these people are not actually Liberals, they are so called Progressives. The party going to the left is only an issue as they are not going towards a Gandhi type of left-liberal politics, instead they’re going towards left-autocratic approach, actually dragging the Democratic Party away from Liberalism. Racialising everything is also extremely illiberal. They are challenging the Social Contract: I could go on on about how dangerous I think they are.

@brianmeen2158

Жыл бұрын

Progressives live in a different reality than I do.. l most liberals are at least sane and realistic

@ianelliott518

Жыл бұрын

Completely, nobody seems to the grasp the Soros, Schwab switch and bait tackticks of replacing poverty issues with race, gender. The Autocratic corperate left is manipulating the traditional left with the woke agenda.

@mickiemallorie

Жыл бұрын

"Ghandi left liberal politics"?

@AdamBetweentheLines

Жыл бұрын

@@mickiemallorie What’s your take on it?

@AdamBetweentheLines

Жыл бұрын

@@brianmeen2158 Right, rationality should be amongst the entry level traits for people who want to call themselves Liberal.

Wow! Jamal Bowman says We haven't taken on poverty yet? Has he heard of "the war on poverty"? We have spent hundreds of billions of dollars fighting poverty. So you have to ask, why are neighborhoods worse off? These people are so out of touch. Just give these insane people more power and give up our freedoms and they will fix everything. Terrifying.

Bowman's viewpoints are quixotic...at best. Great job, Coleman.

@machtnichtsseimann

Жыл бұрын

Agree. ( And thanks for forcing me to look up "quixotic". LoL. The word applies. )

@bywatterson175

Жыл бұрын

@@machtnichtsseimann LOL, no problem

Why does Alicia find EVERYTHING funny? Is she actually related to Kamala? - or just basing her rhetorical technique on the VP’s model ?

As a black center-left liberal, I think that the question should be: Has the Democratic Party gone too far Woke and is giving the image that it favors black concerns over those of the other races. I get an impression from some in my community that we own the party as is exampled by the number of black candidates that were running in the last senatorial election.

It seems someone thinks chuckling at the opponents arguments as if trying to create the illusion of them being laughable.

Coleman: Gallup says 80% of Blacks did not want to defund the police Other Guy: that means 80% of Blacks don’t want more police! Coleman: 🙄 💊 🍺 Coleman 🫡 You just canceled yourself I think. I imagine it’s a feeling of freedom

@ColbyARussell

Жыл бұрын

That was actually the most salient point Bowman made. If 20% are for defunding, 20% against, and 60% "neutral", then it is both true that 80% do not support defund, and 80% do not support increasing police budgets/presence. (Whether that's a response to an argument that no one was making is another matter.) Dude's a terrible communicator, though, and generally came across as childish, un-self-aware, and as irrationally committed as any conservative exhibiting the traits associated with the well-known phenomenon of shoving their head in the metaphorical sand and being unwilling to listen to anything and anyone that contradicts their a priori beliefs. I'm surprised that, even in the interest of decorum, the moderator/host was so effusive in thanking the participants at the end. This guy can't be trusted with unchecked access to a live mic in a debate any more than Trump can.

The refusal of anyone to address the point of « trans rights » in a substantive way speaks volumes about how much of a mine field this is. So most won’t talk about it but everyone’s thinking about it. But the adjoining issues of dating, sex, expenses of child care and low birth rate are at a crisis point and need to be addressed.

@pamelaroyce5285

Жыл бұрын

I strongly agree with you. Democrats should take a careful look at this and sex ed in public schools generally (the graphic quality of it would have been R- or X-rated 30-40 years ago). In Scotland, after self-ID failed, the First Minister Nicola Sturgeon resigned. Her party had lost over 40% of its membership. Can the Democratic Party afford a similar loss, especially in close districts? I worry that we will lose many good benefits of government (EPA, OSHA, F.D.A., NTSB, FAA, national parks, etc.) because they refuse to listen to reasonable discussion surrounding the trans issues.

@deenzmartin6695

Жыл бұрын

because it's a religious cult

@brianmeen2158

Жыл бұрын

There’s so much strangeness surrounding trans issues now.

@Ac-ip5hd

Жыл бұрын

Trans rights and sex ed. Started by Magnus Hirschfield who abused a mentally ill patient and worked with a death camp doctor who did death camp gender assignments then passed the torch to Dr. Kinsey who stimulated toddlers to orgasm in the name of scientism’s “morality.” Then their deceitful ideas were pushed for the purpose of Marxian and Fabian goals to breakdown family and identity itself in large scale, long term dialectics. How bout you talk about it all day and we just say no.

@benp4877

Жыл бұрын

The facts and data guy handled it best. He was just like “Oh, trans? Too far left.” Full stop.

One side looks like they are lying and getting defensive. The other side looks calm and confident.

I mean they lost me as a lifelong voter. This obviously isn't scientific, but I think if a nationwide pole were to be done people would see that the left has lost many people who had been strong advocates, the right I highly doubt has lost many people of this kind. The thing they're not accounting for is people like me might just not vote, or might not register Republican.

@noahjwhite

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly where I am. I didn't vote in the midterms. First time I didn't vote in 24 years.

@farcenter

Жыл бұрын

@@noahjwhite Same here, it had been 15 years for me. Something's got to give...Right? Ha I was sure in 2016 after the loss that surely now, finally the Dems would stop with the ridiculous identity politics, and make sure this never can happen again...I could have never predicted just how much worse it would get.

@casebeth

Жыл бұрын

Yep. The apathetic middle is large and growing

Coleman you speak so well for the sensible people out there. Thank You

Kinda proves the debate question when the best one side can muster is an activist and a politician

Mr Coleman is the most calm and well spoken

As a former Democrat that voted for my first republican in 2016, the democrats have gone waaaay too far left.

jamaal bowman is a total clown

@jaydeeh77

Жыл бұрын

Absolute facts! 💯

The New Yorker always takes it to the next level

It's extremely frustrating and hard to listen to at times. The outright lies and misconceptions from liberals of what conservatism is and stands for is beyond their comprehension.

Garza clumsily attempts to invalidate the question by invoking the banal "old white men" canard. How feeble.

When he said poverty isnt being lowered because no one is lowering it, you should have said "Why arent you lowering it????"

@mimo5853

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! The cities with the most poverty (and the most minorities in poverty) are large Dem run cities, and they’ve been Dem run for decades. If the Left has good policy solutions for these issues why aren’t ANY of their policies helping??! In fact, homelessness, crime, poverty has only gotten WORSE in those cities over time. California is a Dem supermajority state, and has been for years. In California, homelessness, the cost of living, murder rates/violent crime, home invasions, car jacking….crime in general, mental illness, drug use/addiction/overdoses, the number of illegal immigrants, school/grade performance scores, taxes, net migration of people out of the state……these things only keep INCREASING and getting worse.

@gagillion

Жыл бұрын

@@mimo5853 I've been thinking about this, too. It's weird how they haven't picked up that the very "progressive" policies and strategies they use to purport to help marginalized sectors of people, don't seem to be helping, and contrarily seem to be making things worse. It's partly why I can't wit politics, bc I do think it's all a farce and democracy is an illusion, but, yeah, would be nice if the dems actually appeared to give a shit.

The congressman means well but is ignoring the John Adam’s of our time. These people get into bubbles and are told not to pop them.

The woman takes issue with a poll reflecting 17% black people when the US black population is 13.6%. She's right, the poll should have less black people to represent the nation based on skin color

I am so grateful for you, Coleman that you have come into this time as a voice of reason. All these other opponents your up against are so toxic, there isn’t any reason at all with them. This is the major problem with both parties today. We are so disconnected in this country. More so than ever before. We need more “voices of reason” like you to help us middle Americans get what is needed for us. Class over race !!! That needs to be the focus to solve all the problems we face today !!

Coleman tried to tell ‘em.

don't stop your opponent when he's making mistakes

Condescending creepy laughter in the absence of intelligent retort is not a strategy of the classless.

The lady "read" her portion of the debate...... that must break some kind of debating rule huh ? Good points by all three of the men who spoke without notes. Bravo Gentlemen.Thank you for a Grandmother in Austin.

Takeaways from each debater: 1. Jamal is an embarassment. You can't complain about someone stepping on your time when "your time" was you interrupting another debater. He interjected a lot, which is poor form for a debate and it's not allowed in Congress either, you have to wait to be recognized. Not sure where that habit came from. The constant obfuscation as well. The party is not left enough, but he rejects a left-right binary because it should be people vs. power? 2. Alicia was... interesting. She was well-behaved, which is not a comment I'd ever thought I'd make about a debater, but given point 1... Anyway, as Ruy pointed out, her bit about "I'm only interested in the question in terms of electability" did leave a strong impression that she'd be happy to replace capitalism with communism if she could work out how to convert voters to that belief, which is not great. She also came off slightly condescending but I'm not sure that is because she WAS condescending, I think it might just be the way she communicates. All in all, while I strongly disagree with her politics, you have to respect her speaking ability and her intellect. To borrow the old phrase, she's someone I could sit down and have a beer with. I've been in need of some left-wing intellectuals to follow to keep a good overview of both sides, and I could definitely listen to her speak more. The one point that really did irk me though was when she was talking about polling demographics and how a given poll was only 17% comprised of black Americans. That's an overrepresentation of the demographic as a portion of the US population, so I'm not sure how that invalidates the polling data. 3. Ruy was the one talking numbers the most, but he honestly kind of faded into the background. Every time he talked, Jamal jumped over him and in the back half, he just stopped talking data, which means the bullying worked. I get it, I'd have probably backed away from opening topics that were going to lead to outbursts as well, but it was sad. 4. Coleman, as always, love your content. I think I would disagree that Democrats are too far left on immigration, in the context of the discussion. Too far left to pull dyed-in-the-wool conservatives? Sure. Too far left to pull moderates? Not really. I'm curious if you answered that way because you (after having time to think about your response) actually believe that or because you were loathe to concede any ground. I'm with you, by the way, we need to ramp our immigration up if we want to shield ourselves from the age demographic crisis hitting the west. From a purely policy perspective, immigrants are amazing, they produce goods and services that boost our economy, they remit some of that money home where it doesn't add to our inflation and when they retire, they often move back to their home country, releasing all the retirement savings into someone else's economy as well. They're a huge economic boon. It's a very cold and calculating way of looking at it, but it is a huge benefit to the US and everyone living here. I think it's one of the issues where the right is too far right (along with abortion and a couple other things) to gel with moderates.

@jasper_of_puppets

Жыл бұрын

I was also irked by her stating that black people "only" made up 17% of the poll. I saw a pro-black businesses Amazon ad which basically had the same tagline. "Black-owned/operated Amazon marketplace sellers _only_ make up 15% of sellers on Amazon. That's why you should support more of them." ......but, African Americans are about 13.6% of the US population. This is either a cynical political tactic, or it comes from the victimhood mindset that is very prevalent on the left... or both.

@JH-ji6cj

Жыл бұрын

Not bringing 'receipts' as they like to say now, was a huge mistake in terms of saying you have facts/evidence for your arguments. That's especially frustrating given that I am definitely of the position that the Dems have moved much too far Left.

@kingsleyoji649

8 ай бұрын

Why do you think the immigration issue isn't too far to the left when the Southern border hasn't been protected. Sanctuary cities are now complaining about the influx of immigrants when their POLICIES and SPEECH supported the same policy before the repercussions were felt?

I've got 32 trillion reasons why the left is too far left

It was a mistake for each person not to define what they thing “far left” means

I just like the intelligence Square debate where the question was “is America too obsessed with race” they brought on someone who is clearly too obsessed with race to argue no. Same thing here, they brought on people who are clearly extraordinarily left to argue no. Their participation alone is the best argument for the other side.

I love how Garza only determines the limits of going too far left not by some moral principles or harm done by the policies, but only if "the policies that will not get my candidate elected." That is precisely the problem with the radical political left. There are no foundations in any guiding principles, just "progress".

@disf5178

7 ай бұрын

Power is the goal.

Ofc the ideologues are the ones who kept interrupting and raising their voices… good job coleman 🖤

57:14 To quote the man himself: "What data! What data? What poll? Reference the data! We're in a debate man, you got to reference the data. You keep saying data. Anyone can do a poll." - Congressman Jamaal Bowman: 41:52

@russellharvey7096

Жыл бұрын

This would be the "frustrating" part that Coleman mentioned.

Wow, I have to say if I were a US citizen listening to this I would now be less likely to vote Democrat

Immediately breaks it down to “I don’t like old white men and they’re dying so who cares” lol

Alicia(sp?) couldn’t honestly answer the question asked by Scott. Obviously, to her, no candidate can be too far left, which his question addresses, but she lawyered her answer as such to say that the American electorate would not, for example, vote for a far left candidate who would implement radical socialism.

Coleman, I wish you'd have used the term "luxury beliefs" to describe the radical influencers on the left in your opening. And bring Rob Henderson on to your show sometime!

The Democratic Party has lost its way and is now bereft of any coherent philosophy. These debates prove that point so painfully.

It wasn't difficult to identify the loudest and ... let's say 'least-intelletually-rigorous' guy in the room. He is, naturally, the elected official. As for his cohort, it seems to me that she implied that the only problems with either: having entirely open borders and/or "dismantling Capitalism" is it's being unpalatable to voters. I got the impression that she thinks both of those things are wonderful ideas. Oh, and she basically led the convo off with a middle finger to white men. Another policy it seems she would like the Democratic party to adopt. If I listened to either of those people for long enough, I might well leave the Dems myself. Not for the Republicans, perhaps, but to 3rd party candidates or Independents. It may be wasting a vote, but it's better than not voting at all.

@jennaphage

Жыл бұрын

And he was the only one who bragged about his educational background 🙄

I live in Mobile Alabama. 52% black. I go out every weekend and interview people for my Rumble channel. I interview lots of people, including Black people. What I have found, from doing this every weekend, for almost a year now, is that generally Black people are more conservative than whites when it comes to cultural matters. Makes absolutely no sense for Black people to vote for Democrats when they disagree with all of the cultural stuff. Trans and LGBTQ stuff for example. Black people, generally in this area, are wholeheartedly against that agenda. Way more so than the whites I interview.

As a conservative I hope they keep this same energy.

I work in healthcare. Racialized medicine is 100% a thing and is being worked into accreditation and regulatory requirements.

@benp4877

Жыл бұрын

I couldn’t believe she said that. Coleman must have nearly choked.

Ya gotta love the way Jamal Bowman interrupts Coleman Hughes when Hughes answers Bowman's question and then gets upset when Ruy Teixeira interrupts Bowman's interruption. If Bowman is going to ask the question, he needs to wait for the answer, and he should not get upset when others treat him the way he treats others in a discussion or debate. Bowman may not be the best debater, but he loves to shout. Bowman seems to subscribe to the ostrich approach to politics: you stick your head into the sand, ignore data that contradicts your arguments, and hope everything comes out okay. While I disagree with Alicia Garza's "demographics is destiny" argument (i.e., more black and brown U.S. citizens and residents will translate to a decisive shift to the Democratic Party in future elections), which I believe is overly simplistic, at least she conducted herself with dignity, and she made a good point about voter alienation with political insiders in general. Finally, Ruy Teixeira gave an expert analysis of why Democrats have to move away from wokeism if they want to get their more popular economic agenda policies passed in a divided nation.

@valencia4215

Жыл бұрын

Did you see Bowman recently on the news shouting to the rooftop while talking to a colleague in the halls of Congress? I wouldn't vote for Bowman for anything other than a carnival barker.

Yes. They have become totally unrelatable to the average working man and woman.

I worry for Coleman's blood pressure. Consistent readings of 1/0 can't be good.