"You are a very genetically complex person." "Thank you, Razib." Love you, Coleman.

@hardyje1915

7 күн бұрын

yup. that's what they said

What a great guy! You can just feel his immense enthusiasm for genetics. He's like an overstimulated child talking about what he saw at the circus.

@brek5

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, fascinating stuff. I know a lot of this stuff from study in a galaxy far, far away, haha, but he goes deep and puts the ideas together in an interesting way. Definitely going to check out his articles (although Coleman's right... a book is in order, lol).

@pjacobsen1000

11 ай бұрын

@@brek5 He's got two KZread channels which I am just getting started on. Steven Pinker and Glenn Lowry are both his guests (on different videos).

@brek5

11 ай бұрын

@@pjacobsen1000 Thanks for the heads-up on 2 channels. I just subscribed to the one and was going to check out the Pinker interview. Will have to find the other one as well. Fascinating stuff.

@pjacobsen1000

11 ай бұрын

@@brek5 Be aware that just like here with Coleman Hughes, he's a 'long talker'. But as long as he's interesting, it's fine with me.

@pistolen87

10 ай бұрын

I listen to most interview podcast in 1,5 - 2 playback speed, I didn't need to listening to this pod!

This is a fascinating interview. Great job as usual, Coleman 👏

@coconutpie6649

11 ай бұрын

except for the gross slurping.

I watched this because you had Razib Khan on. I read everything he puts out. Thanks for the interview, and now I'm a subscriber to this series as well.

Great conversation! One (small) point: every time Coleman takes a drink, I can hear him slurping and swallowing!

Long time Razib stan here! He's probably the best public figure that has both an exhaustive expertise in both genetics and history. His Substack is well worth subbing to. Most of essays combines these two disicpines into very compelling narratives.

@KaizorianEmpire

10 ай бұрын

lol no where close to the best, but one of sure.

It's refreshing to know there are still ppl who rely on the data in conjunction with external data and aren't biased, also willing to say the work is on going there a particular conclusion should not be assumed...love razib haha

This was fascinating indeed! Great guest! Would love to see Coleman do more like this.

I enjoyed the conversation, however please turn the mics off while drinking and sniffling. I found the sound effects extremely distracting.

@mikejackson8963

Ай бұрын

It was too much! Lol yea yea mmmhmm yea yea! Sorry love the talk but the extra stuff hurts the twlk

@john2g1

Ай бұрын

That's why many podcasters have that extra screen. There are also digital mics that can filter things out, but that's some pretty pricey equipment.

@tubermind

Ай бұрын

The natural fidelity of sound, though, does make it feel like more of a conversation than a TED talk.

I wish people in the sciences/social science were simply matter of fact about things like this guy, great episode

@notallowedtobehonest2539

10 ай бұрын

But then they cant pretend that bwacks are equal

@lapis.lazuli.

10 ай бұрын

@@notallowedtobehonest2539 I guess the persons most qualified to determine ethnicity and other human characteristics are actually not pretending

@notallowedtobehonest2539

10 ай бұрын

@@lapis.lazuli. qualified by who?

@lapis.lazuli.

10 ай бұрын

@@notallowedtobehonest2539 related institutions of learning

@sepulcher8263

10 ай бұрын

@@notallowedtobehonest2539 No group is equal.

Huge fan of Razib for quite some time! His content has been mostly paywalled for a while, but now I know it's because it's worth paying for! Subscribing to the substack today!!

The bits of conversation I could hear between Coleman’s many loud sniffs, sips, and gulps was great!

@MsMrshanks

11 ай бұрын

Very true, I almost had to stop but persevered and the sounds seemed to be less of a thing...

@coconutpie6649

11 ай бұрын

I just said the same thing. How annoying. I've remarked previously as well. No professional interviewer does this. He sounds like an animal.

@formulaic78

11 ай бұрын

He obviously doesn't know it's being heard. Hopefully he will read these comments cos I'm stopping now

@explrr22

11 ай бұрын

Funny... Though I can notice it if promoted, it didn't draw my attention while listening, and I certainly wasn't bothered by it. Think it might be one of those things that's just an unchosen human variability... genetic or environmental?? Anyway... Since some significant portions of listeners are affected... maybe he could just get a good copy of some digital audio cleanup software and run it through as standard practice. I've found that even running it in auto mode makes massive improvements, but perhaps not enough for those more sensitive. Obviously he's not able to retain pro sound engineering at this point. We've all gotten used to the big studio operation production standards, which small operations, even with today's technology assists are difficult to replicate.

Razib is like a professor for the masses. Great video.

This explains why my German husband with all German grandparents had zero German genetics. His results came back as geographically from all around Germany, north, west, south and East. He is basically all of Europe!

@doubleutee2100

11 ай бұрын

Most East Germans are basically Slavic. It's kinda funny cause when you look at a map of the old Soviet Union and it's East European satellites, and you sought to unite the Slavic world, like a prophecy, in a very real sense, with the exception of Yugoslavia, that was done from 1945 til 1991. I believe even the German capitol city of Berlin is a derivative of the Slavic language. The Nazis went through great lengths to hide the Slavic reality of eastern Germany. Austria is also considered East European, and once formed the Austria-Hungary nation. It's an interesting study indeed.

@scarba

11 ай бұрын

@@doubleutee2100 the fact that Germany is so disparate with its regions and dialects to this day proves how the Nazis were trying to unite a people that really weren’t a people at all. Germany is just a patchwork of regions of former mini kingdoms

@doubleutee2100

11 ай бұрын

@@scarba Apparently, quite true indeed!

@zimzob

11 ай бұрын

I recall that Nazi archaeologists uncovered a Neolithic village that was much more sophisticated than they had expected for such an ancient site - it was built in artificially raised land in a marshy area, with a planned street grid, paved with logs, timber houses, surrounded by a timber wall. The find was trumpeted as evidence of German superiority, but continuing work revealed artifacts that unequivocally identified the site as being from a Slavic culture. The Nazis just suppressed the latest findings and stopped talking about the site.

@gianlucarossi5672

11 ай бұрын

What Khan said about Germany was very broad and simple. There is a core German DNA. Northern Germans, for instance, are more Scandinavian-shifted than Southern Germans, owing to strong Celtic admixture in the latter. Many people are unaware that not every local German is a native. Many Germans are descendant of assimilated immigrants from Poland, Russia, and other regions of Europe, so German by culture. However, this does not negate the fact that a core Germanic ancestry exists throughout Germany.

Thanks, Coleman. I have watched 7-8K conversations on KZread in the past 5 years and this was as good as almost any. Razib Khan is that happiest of men, The Happy Warrior.

@alexgibson2871

8 ай бұрын

i like this phrase, where's it from ?

This is the most interesting talk Ive listened to this year. What an amazing conversation.

This episode was a mind blow. The guest is next level brilliant. I was so stimulated during the entire conversation and carried away in the things the guest was saying that Coleman caught me off guard with the most incredible thing that has happened to me. Driving while listening to this episode, I almost wrecked with laughter when Coleman pulled the most hilarious comment in all podcast history. That line about comparing himself to Obama and Elizabeth Warren almost had me in a wreck because of the convulsive and hysterical laugh that I uncontrollably found myself in. I was helpless against that quip. Never ever in all podcast listening history have I been so caught off guard and had laughter erupt out of me like a volcano. It was pure brilliance. I was so caught off guard. Master piece from start to finish. I will listen to this at least 3 more times.

@amarissimus29

11 ай бұрын

This is what interviews with a scientist used to look like. 'Here's what we've discovered. It's really interesting. This is how we know it's true, to the extent that it's the best model representing reality that we've come up with so far.' Brush of the silly stuff gently but firmly. No time wasted placating idiots, deal with falsifiable, testable theory only. I suppose that is mind blowing today, and that is indescribably sad.

Razib needs to write a book! That was fascinating 😮

Isaac Asimov sideburns are DOPE 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

This was really entertaining!! I started off thinking “I’m not going to warm to this guy!” Then we got into the possibility of genomic eradication of hereditary disease - and I liked him even less. (Probably because I misinterpreted what he was setting out?) But then he got into broad-sweep genomic analysis - and, Wow! - how utterly fascinating was that. Thanks to both of you for a REALLY interesting conversation !!

As a Jat from Rajasthan I can confirm about our steppe ancestry and according to DNA reports available publicly percentage of steppe is 40 percent among the Jats of Haryana/Rajasthan/UP due to less mixing

@phoenixj1299

2 ай бұрын

What is your proof that you have steppe ancestory?

@umax870

2 ай бұрын

Nonsense.

@raulepure9840

2 ай бұрын

@@umax870 Why is nonsense? is hurting your feelings?

This was so incredibly interesting. It’s been a long time since I learnt so much in one single podcast. Well done to Coleman and Razib for producing such a thoughtful and insightful conversation 👏👏👏

Fascinating conversation. Nice to see the speaker so passionate about his expertise. I'm still researching about my own family tree 🌴in The Seychelles. My mother Chinese / African and my father French /Portuguese. It would be great to have a conversation with Razib Khan.

Love to see the corroboration of conclusions drawn from the area of historical linguistics using modern population genetics! I known linguists who with population geneticists in places where creoles have developed through Atlantic triangular trade, and using genetics in tandem with linguistics has helped their team figure out which varieties of the creole preserve the most traits of the earlier forms of creole. Amazing collaborative work!

This was a pretty interesting conversation but in my personal opinion I would have liked to hear more about the genetic makeup and history of Africa and Africans outside of the surface level Cleopatra conversation. I think African history, culture and genetics is very misunderstood sometimes even intentionally. An episode covering Cushitic ancestry. Ta-Seti civilization and the Nabta Playa herders would be interesting.

@total_leftie

9 ай бұрын

Do it yourself?

@themac9677

9 ай бұрын

@@total_leftie I'm not a geneticist I'm an Aerospace engineer with an affinity for African history. They spent a lot of time talking about Cleopatra and how those islanders were not Africans instead of discussing what is measurably the most genetically diverse people on the face of the planet. That's why I'm asking

@total_leftie

9 ай бұрын

​@@themac9677 if you want to direct the questions you're gonna need to do it yourself, is what i'm saying. coleman will have the questions he is interested in hearing answers to, i will have mine, you will have yours.

@themac9677

9 ай бұрын

@@total_leftie No I understand that. What I'm saying is throughout the interview they spent a majority of their time talking about people who are not Africans and no time talking about who African people actually are. If you're going to talk about the human genome and not enter Africa into the conversation it's just a little bit superficial and that's whether I'm asking the questions or not. Kind of like talking about Americas fight for independence but skipping over the revolutionary war

@total_leftie

9 ай бұрын

@@themac9677 i don't really understand why it is superficial to specialise in particular areas. perhaps razib has purposefully chose to leave certain areas because you can catch heat for saying things that people don't want to accept. i haven't watched the whole thing so i will admit am finding it difficult to grasp your point entirely, but i don't think it's a requirement of anyone to have to speak about anything, and quite the contrary, when people are more zoned in they tend to be more accurate - rather than the jack of all trade types.

This was such a great discussion.

Wow, really a fantastic and obviously extremely intelligent guest. Very interesting discussion. Thanks, Coleman!

Great guest! Such a fascinating and important topic, I truly loved the conversation from both of you. And very cool hair Razib!

Razib is so frank and open I wonder if not being "white" frees him up in a genetic discussion not available to many others.

@pacifront83

2 ай бұрын

as a fellow from the sub-continent, I also get that pass when talking about race.

@ltarmenia4ever

Ай бұрын

You'd think so, but apparently he was cancelled as a recent hire for The New York Times when certain progressive activists started digging into his work and posts and found all sorts of "offensive" subject matter on race and genetics. NYT of course caved and let him go.

@w1cked001

Ай бұрын

@@pacifront83same.

@johnkatsaros7340

Ай бұрын

Can you define who is "white"? Do we mean "European"?

@warnaoh

8 күн бұрын

@@johnkatsaros7340 Who else is considered white LOL

Wow, that was really good. Thanks for finding these interesting people.

Long-time CWC supporter and fan. This was definitely a great one. GJ to both of you guys!

@razibkhansunsupervisedlearning

11 ай бұрын

corded ware culture?

@MrAjmay1

11 ай бұрын

@@razibkhansunsupervisedlearning Haha, no. Although the corded ware people almost certainly contributed to my "23 & Me" profile, I meant Conversations With Coleman. ;)

Thanks for this brilliant conversation. You have earned yourself a new subscriber . Keep up the good work .

So informative! Looking forward to learning more.

My new favorite interview! THANK YOU

@eric1138

11 ай бұрын

Agreed. Very interesting and well done.

What a terrific and important interview. I'm incredibly impressed with both Coleman and Razib. Coleman, please have Razib on again so he can talk about other ethnicities and other related subjects Razib deep dives into. If I took a DNA history test I'd be one of those who wanted to know if a higher % of my DNA came from a Central Asian grain farmer versus an Irish sheep herder.

I like how fast and articulately Razib talks. Super interesting podcast!

He said Queen Charlotte is not important. Meanwhile: We named an entire major American City after her.

@sandie157

2 ай бұрын

Queen Charlotte Islands archipelago in BC Canada. Yes she was important.

@acaydia2982

Ай бұрын

She just looks Portuguese, but even if her great great great great grandmother was of SSA origin , she would be what,1% and MTDA recombines with 50/50 in every child, so it’s more difficult to track. What deep ancestry has taught us today, that you are the seed of your father because 100% passes down in men each time in only males. One thing we know for certain though, lookership is not a dependable or accurate method to measure ancestry. North Africans are still a Caucasiod people and have been for 40k+ years because that’s where the root came from. There is no single point of human origin. They evolved in different parts of the African continent. We also have Peking Man who is far older than the modern human remains we found in Africa. The models have not been updated.

@lazairance

Ай бұрын

It’s funny you’re mentioning that north africans are caucasoid meanwhile they’re from the same lineage as Somali and Ethiopian peoples. They’ve had alot of admixture from coming from Europe. That's why lot's of them come with white skin. meanwhile 3000 years ago north africans looked closer to Somali and had dark skin, like southerners from india still do. But I agree that horners and north africans share a common ancestor with Europeans. Perhaps you associate "keen" features with "caucasoids" if I'm not mistaken?

@acaydia2982

Ай бұрын

@@lazairance Caucasiods have always been in the Levant & North Africa because that’s where they came from. That’s been proven genetically over and over again. Also Natufians have a WHG component. 12k years ago there were waves of Back to Africa Migrations from Eurasia during the Neolithic Revolution as well.

@lazairance

Ай бұрын

@@acaydia2982 they came from the horn* The ethiopians and somali NEVER left the continent. They’re genetically the same as 10000 yrs ago. And them migrations back into Africa aren’t actually proven their just hypothesis.

Razib seemingly has no social filter! I kinda appreciate that. A lot of this was roughly familiar to me from the published work and discussion of David Reich and others much more guarded in their assertions... Which I appreciate, but for me it's kinda beautiful to see the social filters mostly off. As is always the case with science discovery, it's probably 50% to 33% right/wrong... but the filtering is "concerning"??? Honestly I don't have a strong opinion...

This guy was actually really interesting to listen to, I would love to watch more about him explaining the ancestral makeup of different ethnic groups.

@alexgibson2871

8 ай бұрын

he start his own university, his podcasts are endlessly fascinating! makes me want to get back into anthropology

Here I am, listening to this episode again bc it’s so damn interesting and honest and it’s so clear that they both have sincere motives to help everyone. The BEST! Thanks again!

Biggups to Razib! I love his work. If you’re interested in human prehistory his podcast and Substack are really worth diving into

One of the most fascinating talks Coleman's done. Razib is on fire!. Boggles the mind.

This is so amazing! Razib Khan has so much information he should write a book too. Definitely going to his website/blog. His reading list on Goodreads is over 1400 books as well. I’m definitely looking up more pics of him 🔥

this guy is confirming everything people argued with me about - but everything i studied about dna tracing and ad mixture. good find

Good interview. Coleman may need to investigate ways to improve his sound quality. Picking up on a few very distracting sounds throughout. Less sensitivity on the mic perhaps

Excellent episode. Razib's knowledge is fascinating.

Wow. Really greatful for this podcast! Excellent job.

Razib is scary special, very impressive. I struggled to keep up.

Razib is much larger than I thought hed be

@acaydia2982

11 ай бұрын

Right. I’m shocked

@nenirouvelliv

11 ай бұрын

He's built like a Steppe Conqueror.

@urrasscal8380

11 ай бұрын

@@nenirouvelliv nope, iindian's do not have have r1b haplogroup so they r not european they have only r1a haplogroup whereas european have both r1a ( origin around 20000-25000bce) and r1b( 12000-18000bce )..... so that's mean they were same people before ice age and yamnaya people had r1a and r1b whereas jaat of iindia do not have r1b......

@nenirouvelliv

11 ай бұрын

@@urrasscal8380 The steppe element in Indians is descended from a very specific subset of steppe-herders, the Andronovo people, who were mostly r1a. R1b was probably present only in the westermost steppe tribes that became the ancestors of the Bell-Beakers. The pre-IE Harappans were mostly R2 and L1 lineages, mix of indus valley farmers and proto-dravidan tribes.

@mordechaistein

Ай бұрын

Or is Coleman just smaller?

This is a very interesting conversation. Thank you so much for posting this.

Wow, this is absolutely fascinating. I love studying why certain ethnicities look the way they do.

This episode was the first one I had to slow down the playback speed 🤣. This info was beyond me.

I was just thinking about Razib and out of nowhere this gold nugget drops on my lap, fantastic!

@PhilosophyofArtandScience

11 ай бұрын

manifesting

I have to do a lot of census data mining for my job and usually have to read the questions on the census itself to be able to interpret the data properly. The 1930 census was the first time that "Indian, Chinese, Japanese, or other race" showed up. 1940 and 1950 was "white, black, other." 1960 had white, black, and then it had Puerto Rican or Spanish surname and then also broke Puerto Ricans down into white and nonwhite. It also had boxes for Indian, Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, other races. Asian & Pacific Islander didn't show up until 1980. The way that these questions wind up on the census is there a political and it's usually from pressure from interest groups. In the case of Spanish surname, Hispanic, Asian and Pacific islander showing up on the census, it's because those groups were pressuring Congress to put it on there. It's some of the terms are relics from the 19th century but but they do change with whatever the PC term of the time is. There's also a lot more fine detail that gets collected in the Census American community survey that we don't really have access to from 100 years ago. Like I can zoom in to a zip code and see how many Hispanics live there, and then among those I can see how many Puerto Ricans, hiw many Cubans, Venezuelans, Salvadorans, etc. I guess what I'm saying is, to the extent that race is a social construct, the census is just using it in the way that it's understood at the time, or at least in the way that it's being pressured to understand it.

I addicted to your show Colman. Fascinating topic

Great interview. You can tell Razib is passionate and knows his stuff about genetics and archaeogenetics. Interesting how he brought up Indo European mixing with the Mitanni in northern Syria and how their Charioteers were Indo-European, these does not seem to have had an impact on their language, as Hurrian is a language isolate. And yes, modern Egyptians are the descendants of Ancient Egyptians.

@mizaklaw

11 ай бұрын

In part

@jujutrini8412

11 ай бұрын

Who the heck thinks modern Egyptians aren’t the descendants of ancient Egyptians?

@GameFap

11 ай бұрын

@@jujutrini8412 Clearly you haven't met any black american afrocentrics.

@shamshiadad9878

11 ай бұрын

@@jujutrini8412 As Lucid said, afrocentrists or hotep types.

@wagner5424

11 ай бұрын

@@jujutrini8412 Jada Pinkett Smith

Really hoping he writes a book someday

Brilliant discussion. Half way through and absolutely fascinating 👏

Thanks for this Coleman. I’ve been trying to sharpen my take on this from a more scientific end.

It seems they’ve consistently left out who certain people are and the fact the missing fact is AFRICA and Africans. However, I learned a lot.

Even with genetics too, it's hard to figure out phenotype sometimes. Having a "black" doesn't mean someone would look remotely black African. Like Coleman I'm a mixed Puerto Rican (23% Sub Saharan African, 70% European and 7% Native American) and I look like some random guido from Queens.

@LeviNotik

11 ай бұрын

Came to say exactly this. Well said.

@Mr.Witness

11 ай бұрын

If your mixed, your not black

@melissasimmons3222

11 ай бұрын

He’s not a mixed Puerto Rican though. He’s mom is the mixed Puerto Rican who’s mostly Europeans & native. He’s dad is American who’s mostly of African ancestry with a small % of European. He looks “black” because more than half of his ancestry is. You look like a random guido because you’re mostly white with ancestry probability from southern Europe. Makes perfect sense!

@MelGibsonFan

11 ай бұрын

@@melissasimmons3222 When I'm saying Mixed Puerto Rican I mean he's not fully Puerto Rican. Hope this helps clarify my comment.

@zimzob

11 ай бұрын

I wonder how you get the 7% Native American figure, is that through an ancestor of North American Indian descent, or through the Puerto Rican (Carib/Taino?) ancestor? Native American ancestry can’t be identified from DNA testing because the Nations generally boycott contributing to those databases.

I wish you would take small clips and posted. This is a very dense topic, but very interesting.

Razib always cracks me up when I listen to him - but seeing his eccentric self in full HD is just too much ;)

This guy is all sooooo clever , his knowledge and remembrance of all the facts is outstanding, I can't even remember what exact ages my kids are without thinking about it.

@AMikeStein

11 ай бұрын

I have one kid…. And I have to ask my ex wife how old he is some years. I actually forget my own age sometimes.

@Dedicated_.1

10 ай бұрын

It’s called autism.

8:14 Razib Khan: "The Avar Empire, the Avars were Turks" The Avars were not at all the same in origin. The Turkic Ogurs were considered to be "Pseudo-Avars". Ancient genomes reveal origin and rapid trans-Eurasian migration of 7th century Avar elites "However, the texts do not agree on who these Avars were, or where exactly they came from. In fact, the Turks claimed that they were only Pseudo-Avars who had appropriated the prestigious name Avars and the lofty title of khagan but were in reality Ogurs, a Turkic-speaking people in western Central Eurasia. While we can conclude that the Rouran most likely called themselves Avars, to what extent the European Avars were descended from them has been debated (Dobrovits, 2003; Pohl, 2018)." "Our results provide robust genetic support for the Northeast Asian ancestry of the Avar-period elite in the core region of the Avar empire (DTI) from the middle third of the 7th CE to the early 8th CE Carpathian Basin (early to middle Avar period). We show a striking genetic match with a Rouran-period individual as well as with ancient individuals from Xiongnu and especially Xianbei periods from the eastern Asian steppe. During the late Avar period, we observe a shift among the elite in the Avar core area toward a more recently admixed ancestry. Even if late Avar individuals still preserve a predominant northern East Asian component, the western Eurasian source that best fits the remaining 20%-30% of their ancestry is mostly a non-local one (i.e., it does not match the gene pools of the available preceding Carpathian Basin populations)."

Very good episode, excellent guest. Now have to read his Substack!

Terrific conversation. Really enjoyed it!

Dang this was a good one! I rarely make time to listen to hr+ conversations and this one of those rarities. Show should be retitled _Get Canceled with Coleman_

I listened to this on .75x speed and it was much more pleasant (bc this guy talks very fast and doesn’t always finish his sentences, so it takes a little extra focus).

@sinatra222

5 ай бұрын

Funny, I listened at 1.75×

@mordechaistein

Ай бұрын

He's like the Indian version of Ben Shapiro.

@lorileifer613

Ай бұрын

@@mordechaistein oh gosh I wish but he follows Freddie DeBoer who is such a Jew hater it gives me ~shivers~

@mordechaistein

Ай бұрын

@lorileifer613 That is troubling to hear. I was just referring though to the fast speech, though it would be nice if his values were good as well.

Great podcast. I find this stuff so fascinating

Awesome guest … hope you have this guy on again

Population genetics can also have important implications for medicine. Shouldn’t be brushed under the rug to appease ideology.

@elisaacello592

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely 👍

@cdcaleo

11 ай бұрын

And yet it will be brushed under the rug, at everyone's expense.

@jordandthornburg

11 ай бұрын

Of course that shouldn’t. Genetics are very real. That doesn’t make the arbitrary constructs we have of “race” real though.

@overtonpendulum2071

11 ай бұрын

@@jordandthornburg They're not totally arbitrary. They're based on appearance wich correlates with genetics to a very high degree. Race is very real and important when building a society.

@jordandthornburg

11 ай бұрын

@@overtonpendulum2071 they’re mostly arbitrary. When you see a person with a “white” mother and a “black” father and they’re considered “black” it is clear it is mostly arbitrary. Of course different skin tones exist. No one disputes that. How does that correlate to the categories of “race” that we have created?

This was amazing an amazing discussion. Quite insightful.

I haven't listened to it yet but those are tough topics to cover even if someone needs to cover them. Every time I apply to a job in the US, I'm asked "what is my race" and its often not something I can opt out on. Recently did 23 and Me and found that I was in fact not 100 percent European and that the story fed to me about my family's past was not 100 percent accurate. Even if I disagree with you all's conclusions, I'm liking this podcast anyway because you were willing to cover the topic.

Reminds me of Lex Fridman's podcasts tbh. I appreciate these types of conversations

Omg the slurping 😂 Coleman!!!

Love this topic. Love you, Coleman. Piece of constructive criticism: nasal sounds and clearing of mucus sounds in the mic aren’t conducive to focusing on what the guest is sharing. Oh, and the loud beverage slurping and nasal passage clearing…

@notsogreen

2 ай бұрын

He has hay fever like "allergies" that's where the nasal/ mucus sounds comes from. Not easy to mask.

Thank you for attending

Mr. Khan has a knack for getting his point across without going into wordy detail. Very Good!

wow, the 30% that I understood was really fascinating, thank you!

I'm from Europe. I've encountered the term "Caucasian" in the past and have always wondered what it meant, why the sudden interest in the Caucasus. That it is a term for white people has only now dawned on me. Anyway, then - the moment when Coleman has to prove the existence of women as a biological sex... I, for one, was prepared to "respect" the consensus that there is a biological sex and then that "gender" (even though I have my doubts about that - but I don't know about it, so just "ok"). But this next phase, where "ok, gender ... we agree on that. Now let's abolish the biological part altogether". And I don't blame Coleman for that - but that he feels the need to preemptively defend himself and summarize his arguments for the existence of gender is sad enough.

I started listening to this in the car then was watching it once I got home. It was not expecting the Bengali Ringo Starr.

Great podcast, had to listen over a period of time but worth finishing

How old is this dude? His voice sounds 22 but his hair looks 63!

@SamUrtonDesign

2 ай бұрын

It's called Gen X. We're getting old (oldest almost 60), but we still speak as we always did (as did every other generation before us).

@livengoodjames7406

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like he's 14

@mtsjungles

2 ай бұрын

😂 And his face looks 38

@eliza1826

Ай бұрын

@@mtsjunglesthat’s south Asian men for you, even African men look somewhat attractive

need to calibrate microphones for different guests as this learned gentleman has a very high and pitchy voice

What a fantastic conversation. Thank you.

This was great! Wish you asked about IQ

@obiohagwu788

11 ай бұрын

That’s a pretty boring question though. Most of that us general knowledge lol

@toddmaek5436

11 ай бұрын

IQ ....is a social construct

@freckleheckler6311

10 ай бұрын

@@toddmaek5436hahahahahah😂

@ayyleeuz4892

10 ай бұрын

race differences in IQ is total taboo for obvious reasons

@18890426

10 ай бұрын

@@toddmaek5436 🤣

Hey @coleman Hughes, we can hear you sniffing and drinking 😅 otherwise great interview

super interesting stuff! as someone doing lots of similar data stuff, i may need to look into that field

phenomenal conversation

Coleman loudly slurping and swallowing his drink in the background.

Given the mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosome DNA tracking directly, I would be very interested to see independent genetic studies of the proportion of American Black DNA that is Irish on the mother's lineage vs fathers lineage. Might be an absolutely ground shaking chunk of data there.

Its definitely interesting. The Romans thought of their concurrent greek neighbors as asiatic, and their culture was thought of as oriental in nature. Check out what the romans wrote about Elagabalus.

Thank you for this episode!

The Bantu expansion, in many ways, parralels Indo European expansion. I think if more people understood this then we'd have a more intelligent conversation about "race" and culture. Today many people, across Eurasia, South Asia, North Africa and the Americas have some amount of Indo European lineage and if you can understand this conversation then you are, at least partly, Indo European culturally. This has been a dumb taboo to talk about since WWII but we need to have these conversations, especially as Americans.

@avengemybreath3084

11 ай бұрын

Good luck with that. The establishment will never allow it.

@S.J.L

11 ай бұрын

@@avengemybreath3084 Thanks, I'll need it. One things that's kind of funny is that the "Aryans" got their asses kicked by guys with names like Yeager, Eisenhower and MacArthur. People need to lighten up about this stuff.

@cdcaleo

11 ай бұрын

@@S.J.L Agree completely, although Razib, being south Asian, has more right to call himself Aryan than any German. I wholeheartedly agree these conversations are desperately needed, but the establishment benefits too greatly from the stilted, and false, narratives around race that have been used to divide all of us. They won't let the facts get in the way of their "divide and conquer" programming.

@acaydia2982

11 ай бұрын

It’s amazing how genetics have exposed this.

@nicolem5626

11 ай бұрын

Bantu soeaking people are not the only black Africans and I don’t know why you’re identifying a language group as a race in the first place.

Irrational fear of vaccines?

Genes are magical. Understanding apart of a puzzle doesn't negate its magic. ❤

The genetic variance among any local human population is larger than the distance between average characteristics of far detached populations. That's why we are one human race. Most of human differences and genetic traits are much more associated with internal functions, like digestive and immune systems. This does not conflict with the genetic ability to track origins of people based on some very specific traits combinatoric variations. So in terms of overall genetic characteristics you can have a particular European more similar to an individual African than each is to their next door neighbor. Yet each one of them will be perfectly traceable by location population characteristics to where they live.

Another great guest with no pc filter and lots of interesting things to say.

Great show. Pls stop sipping coffee on mic