Since this is popular again: I still agree with this video, I don't regret making it. In hindsight, I think the modern art style is a mix of both valve poorly planning things AND valve intentionally lifting their own restrictions for the sake of player expression. I don't like that people see this video and forget that second part. Mostly because I hadn't considered it when making the video. I don't "walk back" any of my points, I just find awful loadouts more funny than upsetting today.

@Ban-zx9se

7 ай бұрын

People are already whining and jumping to conclusions lol

@milliondollarmistake

7 ай бұрын

make a modern follow up

@nullvoid3545

7 ай бұрын

If VALVE wanted to loosen the restrictions intentionally to encourage expression, then why is their A clear pattern of them mostly choosing things with the established art style in mind, then only making exceptions for items in the rarest slots of A case? Plus team recognition is important and in A much worse state then it was when this video was made. I think the line you drew here for "egregious" cosmetics was reasonable, and your example using the glitched heavy as A *joke* now looks like it could happen if the very real legit version on sniper goes multi class. I mean if you really feel like its fine as it is, then how much further will you accept? Do we cross the line when pyro finally completes his full body paintable clown suit? Maybe another few head as fruit hats? OH! What about A watermelon to complement the citrus? We could even reuse the model! I honestly don't think you care either way, you even said that yourself in this video, and that's fine. But this video is on point. regardless of how interested you are in defending your opinions in it.

@ZestyJesus

7 ай бұрын

ugh You do walk back on the video, at least in some capacity, by dismissing unbefitting cosmetics as "funny" or the objective problems some cause as "arbitrary or subjective." Some nuance and subjectivity lies in determining what is/is not befitting for the game, but certain lines were crossed long ago that should have never been. I think most people could agree and a giant hot pink banana head isn't something that belongs, for example. This video remains spot on, and seeing you (and many others) become complacent with Valve sacrificing what makes TF2 unique for the sake of "player expression" saddens me. Don't be fooled, Valve may have intentionally lifted their restrictions, but with money in mind, and not with care for the game nor player expression, that's for damn sure. You may not care anymore, and that's fine, you've moved on to others things. But many others still do, and reducing concerns with content selection to "eh, it's funny," puts a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths. I'll always stand by players being allowed to express themselves within the confines of a game's style and tone, but to not open the floodgates to anything they desire simply because they like it and it "expresses" who they are.

@nullvoid3545

7 ай бұрын

@@ZestyJesus You sir have been bamboozled! Do you think Funke might elaborate on the apparent nuance im not seeing? Perhaps we define the interests of player expression differently?

FUNKe in 2017: Tf2's artstyle makes no sense. Tf2 in 2020: You can now play as Foreskin.

@Vance415

3 жыл бұрын

what.

@lostobj

2 жыл бұрын

a painted executioner with the binoculus makes foreskin man

@Vance415

2 жыл бұрын

@@lostobj WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO BE FORESKIN MAN

@MSCDonkeyKong

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vance415 why not?

@Vance415

2 жыл бұрын

@@MSCDonkeyKong BECAUSE THATS WEIRD AS HELL

this entire video was made to say "the banana hat is stupid"

@jiado6893

5 жыл бұрын

So too modernly anachronistic, and too busy. That and the last 30 seconds sum up the whole video.

@theletterl8948

4 жыл бұрын

@Daniel von Strangle i played in a game with robtheawsm and i was in one of his twitch stream

@droidixbacon

4 жыл бұрын

I love it

@peanutman8279

4 жыл бұрын

Probably

@dazaway

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah lol

Valves response? They gave heavy a banana

@Justin-fh2yp

4 жыл бұрын

More like they just fucking yeet the game out of the window.

@Niiue

4 жыл бұрын

Justin they just left it there for a week

@user-iu2zo7hu7f

4 жыл бұрын

@@Justin-fh2yp giving heavy a banana doesn't ruin the game clown

@Justin-fh2yp

4 жыл бұрын

Cropsy I meant they dropped any effort focusing on tf2 and just work on something else (Probably, idk what I trying to say 6 months ago)

@user-iu2zo7hu7f

4 жыл бұрын

@@Justin-fh2yp they don't yeet the game out of the window they just leave it untouched in their room, not having updates while can make the game boring for some veterans it also doesn't make the game bad either tf2 is still very good even tho it doesn't get updates

How to fix it: Give me a tickbox that lets me disable all of the hats and other cosmetics clientside visually.

@Wintd1

4 жыл бұрын

There was a similar mod years ago that disabled all hats clientside, but this also included the default hats that some classes wear, so you'd see a lot of bald engies and soldiers running around.

@Foxingg

3 жыл бұрын

That would also be good for people running low-end PCs. TF2 has become such a jumble of spaghetti code over there years something simple like that could double some folk's performance.

@fpv568

3 жыл бұрын

There is a script to make TF2 run better that has that as an option.

@fpv568

3 жыл бұрын

@Kattos _ can't find the one I used but there are several mods to remove hard and unusual effects and such

@fpv568

3 жыл бұрын

@Radio Star being an asshole on the internet doesn't make you cool. Who the fuck asked for your opinion?

I miss item descriptions so much

@chaosinc.382

7 жыл бұрын

The ones that came with the Electric Bugaloo hats cracked me up good.

@Angel_Flash

7 жыл бұрын

Heads will roll

@Nick-cg5hi

7 жыл бұрын

Aquaphoto I don't I just enjoy the way the hat looks not how nicely a few sentences are worded

@floodrunner_2042

6 жыл бұрын

Nick Whittle The descriptions added some charm to the items even if they were just small things. Also the thing is that the community items added each update already have a description on their page yet Valve doesn't even add them which kinda sucks imo

@diobrando3378

6 жыл бұрын

Aquaphoto same

Original TF2 artstyle: Clean, describes the character function, easy to reconize a class and team TF2 now: a cluster of gags that lost the punchline

@LurkerPlus

5 жыл бұрын

I remember reading how part of the art design was that you could immediately identify a TF2 class by his silhouette. A pity that got thrown out the window, never to return.

@firephoenix6056

4 жыл бұрын

**gets 1.1k and 2 replies**

@azirul9311

4 жыл бұрын

@@firephoenix6056 not every big comment need hundreds of replies

@azirul9311

4 жыл бұрын

@@cibo889 what a perfect literature you just written

@foopthehoop3103

4 жыл бұрын

Rohan the fat items kinda make it harder to tell if that’s an engineer or heavy

5:48 “are you sure this game isn’t satanic” it is cannon that the medic has made (a) deal(s) with Satan and it is suggested that he surgically implanted the souls of the other mercenaries into himself

@StilvurBee

3 жыл бұрын

the souls of the tfc mercs actually, tf2 mercs still have their souls

@aaronking2020

3 жыл бұрын

@@StilvurBee yeah...no. in the comics medic said "it's because we don't have souls! Well they don't but i- nevermind." When refering to the TF2 Mercs.

@StilvurBee

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronking2020 in my opinion, he's correcting himself because he was just on their side

@kirbles2035

3 жыл бұрын

grammar nazi here! It's spelt canon

@MetaKaios

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirbles2035 If you were a true grammar nazi, you would have put quotation marks around 'canon'.

You know, it is a trend I have seen in Free to Play games. As the game gets older, the devs have to push the boundaries in order to continue selling stuff and thus making the game self sufficient. World of Tanks used to have mostly real vehicles; Team Fortress 2 had little cosmetics, and they were very restrained; War Thunder's cut off date was supposed to be the Korean War. And so on and so on...

@NikolasoGames

3 жыл бұрын

But they wouldn't actually need to do that. If a game goes on and on, just create something in the style of that game rather than going far from it. Or, if you really can't keep in the style of it, give up, because what's the use.

@VRichardsn

3 жыл бұрын

@@NikolasoGames Oh, absolutely. I would love to see that.

@porkystrangler3821

3 жыл бұрын

not even a f2p only thing, the last time I looked at siege's store page it had some halloween bullshit going on with voodoo doll bodies for the operators and I was so fucking stumped

@CrizzyEyes

2 жыл бұрын

Dota 2 is arguably worse. You can have custom hero portraits in Dota 2 now. Despite the fact that I've had 2k hours in the game (I did take a break for a couple of years and started again recently), I've had multiple games where I said "Wait who the hell is that hero supposed to be?" because they had some new outrageous cosmetic set and custom portrait.

@VRichardsn

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrizzyEyes Custom portraits? And the other players can see them?

lol, heavy likes bananas now.

@casey997

5 жыл бұрын

A Kelp Shake true

@AtillaTheFun1337

5 жыл бұрын

A Kelp Shake Spy still doesn’t though

@kura100

5 жыл бұрын

Also Soldier. He was eating one before the Yeti jumped on him at the jungle inferno short.

@Nrowi

3 жыл бұрын

Should of put a cheesesteak instead

@brodyatkinson1960

3 жыл бұрын

Heavy is big gei confirmed?

I hope they never fix the Hazmat Headcase. The only reason I still have it is because I can wear it on Sniper and anyone I kill is forced to look at my complete abomination of a mercenary.

@Linkmasterson

7 жыл бұрын

The hazmat headcase really only looks good on the sniper if you mix it with the anger but the question is do you really want an edgy sniper? ( ͡ ° ͜ʖ ͡ ° )

@oui3255

2 жыл бұрын

@@Linkmasterson no edgy sniper no

@tangerinepaint3643

2 жыл бұрын

@@Linkmasterson Makes him looks kinda like a Hunter from Destiny or Destiny 2

When you're F2P: * laughs in stock *

@fenn_fren

4 жыл бұрын

**laughs in pink as hell painted gibus**

@captain_hammer

4 жыл бұрын

* laughs in Towering Titanium Pillar of Hats, Marxman and purple-painted Dangerous Duckling *

@pfitz9346

3 жыл бұрын

I'm the dude who's been playing since 08 but still uses stock hats and miscs. Though recently I switched from stock to the "proof of purchase" on my demo.

@eco1969

3 жыл бұрын

* laughs in engineer jag taunt *

@_GhostMiner

3 жыл бұрын

@@eco1969 heck yeah! Jag 4ever

One third of my inventory is filled with cases. I live in the Netherlands.

@cadsquade

4 жыл бұрын

The worst is when you get keyless paint crates...

@sordes8598

3 жыл бұрын

@@cadsquade i learned thus the hard way, why doesn't Valve just give you a warning

@eva1777

3 жыл бұрын

And you can buy the key... You just can't use it. Now that's nasty.

@chudcel88

3 жыл бұрын

kanker)))

@thewildruda6113

2 жыл бұрын

@@eva1777 I mean i can’t open crates but still buy keys for Trading

In all seriousness, thanks a million for shedding light onto this subject. Game art design isn't something that a lot of people seem to get the importance of (or at least not intuitively), so it's great to see you finding the way to sum up so much information in such a short video for people to understand. Also, while all class cosmetics are very practical in terms of quickly setting up a loadout for (obviously) all classes, they lack the charm and charisma that can be found in a lot of class locked cosmetics. It's really sad to see some really clever hats get covered in the shade of some cosmetic purely popular by its undeserved rarity valve has chosen.

@lpsp442

7 жыл бұрын

People often gravely mistake the role of the aesthetic in games or any other functional piece. They are a useful and typically crucial component, without question.

@yoshidavis3022

7 жыл бұрын

Stanstub

@energeticyellow1637

6 жыл бұрын

"b-but my funny and le randumb hatz tho DD:>"

@ollies1170

6 жыл бұрын

Astra wtf you have the same avatar as me, I got so spooked lmao

@MG_Spy

6 жыл бұрын

The only loadout of mine I'd consider to be comical is my Summer Heavy. He's got the hard counter, the aqua flops, and the graybanns. Besides that, I try to reflect my playstyle for whatever class it is.

I recently started playing TF2 again after a ~2 year break and when I saw the Banana Hat I just said outloud "what the fuck is that?"

@Slender_Man_186

7 жыл бұрын

I just imagine you staring at you computer screen quoting FMJ. "What is that? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?"

@callmetycho7030

6 жыл бұрын

How about "WHAT THE HE'LL IS THAT!? WHY THE HELL IS THAT!?" thanks mark

@SynsVEVO

6 жыл бұрын

This is my Banana There are many like it but this one is mine

@ExpertExterminators

6 жыл бұрын

I had a similar reaction when they added the heavy taunt "Boiling Point". I screamed "OH MY GOD DID THEY REALLY ADD THAT AS A TAUNT!" The stupid thing is, the table tantrum and boiling point taunt are literally the same fucking thing just different pots on the table.

@blazeofglory4053

6 жыл бұрын

Valve is too busy adding banana hats, rather than fixing their broken-ass game. Seriously, people like Delfy are STILL FINDING GAME BREAKING BUGS AND GLITCHES!!!! I think by 9 years of developement, they meant designing great hats, then jerking off all over it.

I hope people also start to notice that Valve has been slowly ruining CS:GO's artstyle by making it more cartoony, bright and even somewhat nonsensical

@yuushanaruto9676

2 жыл бұрын

They've ruined the original art style as soon as they added skins imo. When have you seen trained professionals carry around guns that have dragons, skulls and anime girls painted on them? That's the type of shit you expect Borderlands psychos to do and not counter terrorists.

@Mystibump

2 жыл бұрын

@@yuushanaruto9676 Same for Terrorists, who are more or less the same thing. I could see Terrorists maybe having a more stylized appearance to them but not to the point it'd make them an easy target to spot.

@thesenate8268

2 жыл бұрын

YES! New character models suck! Like the bank robber wearing a condom on his head bombing missile crates in de_mirage. What the fuck Valve?

@fasulimac92

2 жыл бұрын

@@yuushanaruto9676 Yeah, imagine a goddamn police force chasing you and they stop you with m4s painted with anime girls

@andrueis

2 жыл бұрын

@@thesenate8268 its not a condom its pantyhose which makes it actually not that bad

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Pyro has the most fitting cosmetics in terms of his personality I think. He might have a hat or two that’s pretty weird, but his cosmetics mostly take the cutesy or intimidating route. I feel like this both fits how he actually is and how he looks.

@NikolasoGames

2 жыл бұрын

Eh, maybe.

@Teknorat

Жыл бұрын

>he

@aussieseal9979

10 ай бұрын

Pyro has no gender

@taraktaras7327

6 ай бұрын

@@aussieseal9979 how are we gonna talk about pyro then? With the name? That won't be good, and you can't say "it/them" since there's a difference between "no gender" and "non binary" TL;DR:peeps should call Pyro whatever they want.

@aussieseal9979

6 ай бұрын

@@taraktaras7327 generally, when someone is Agender, you refer to them as they/them. And pyros pronouns throughout the source material, are they/them. It's not hard

7:12 "Hey it's your Uber driver... am here"

@kittyluvr

6 жыл бұрын

Waddle Derp *outside.

@lukalackovic9059

5 жыл бұрын

Denpa Dolt What a disaster!

@xolagix

4 жыл бұрын

mark, go home, you're fucking drunk.

@slurponaut

3 жыл бұрын

"...stupid"

6:57 That was actually a decent point Good read.

@tallguy7890giant

6 жыл бұрын

It really was, to bad most commenters are never that civil.

@wotwott2319

6 жыл бұрын

#BuffClaidHeamhMor

@nathanjohnson9904

6 жыл бұрын

HELL SPOON I

@SmallDoki

6 жыл бұрын

HELL SPOON I

@VMan_2002

5 жыл бұрын

_can i offer you an egg in these trying times_

3:43 Well, technically, since Scout is from Boston and the age of consent in Massachusetts is 16, he might be legally alright in that regard, unless he went for the freshmen (or perhaps the sophomores as well, depending on what kind of school it is).

@LARAUJO_0

4 жыл бұрын

States can set their own age of consent?

@thebowler5506

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah hoss, in West Virginia it's like 14 or something like that

@rachaelgibbs1152

4 жыл бұрын

@@thebowler5506 wait wHAT

@kedarunzi9139

3 жыл бұрын

@@thebowler5506 how

@thebowler5506

3 жыл бұрын

@@kedarunzi9139 Fuck if I know man, but technically speaking, we're a year higher than Japan on that

The thing is, as memey as the people of the internet are, most TF2 players don't dress like an absolute clown. Most players are trying to create an outfit that expresses them and they often do a pretty good job. The shittyest cosmetics largely aren't used at all. That still leaves pleanty of room to be mad at valve for shoveling trash into the game, but if the overwhelming majority of players just don't use ugly, stupid, or otherwise egregious items, then the artsyle of the game isn't getting dragged down nearly as much as you make it seem.

@Thebooooy

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't wear hats that I don't like, even if people say "oH, wELL tHaT's a HiGh TiEr hAt," I couldn't care less. For example, let's say there was this one really famous Scout main youtuber that wore the bacteria blocker, all by itself. Sounds pretty strange, right? Well, people would still wear it, regardless of how it looked, they just want people to think its that one youtuber. I just like to choose what I think looks good for me. Not that anybody cares or anything, but my favorite scout loadout (because I think it looks dope) is Greased lightning, summer shades, and dead of night. I mean it's ok if you don't like these cosmetics but I think they fit perfectly together. (sorry to any bacteria blocker fans, I just think it looks weird. UNLESS you're purposefully going for a meme, then its funny.)

@NikolasoGames

2 жыл бұрын

I agree but I don't agree with the "You make it seem like it's that bad", the point is that the Valve team ( if it isn't actually an automated system ran by a bot anyway) is acting really stupid by even picking those items, or breaking up good sets, or literally not even caring what goes through, not even considering to add certain items because they keep picking items based off of some other reason or item creator, the items are very unbalanced too which means only one certain class keeps getting more stuff (More money), it almost feels like an insult everytime they do it, and they even DO THAT WITH MAPS. That just sucks. But yes, people generally pick out good cosmetics, but it's such a waste of money and space to have that other trash even be in a case. Ahem, the Smissmas 2021 case was a huge success, right?

@dajokahbaby1506

8 ай бұрын

What servers are you playing on because everyone does look like a fucking clown lol, like what do you mean?

Can I offer you an Egg in these trying times?

@bladabladabloo

7 жыл бұрын

The Blu Spy "I believe I've been poisoned by my constituents!"

@Klausinator451

7 жыл бұрын

bladabladabloo Bleeheeeeeehhhhh!! Favorite scene.

The bananna hat is plain annoying to look at.

@nikolaitheundying

7 жыл бұрын

But Moonman

@shrub8644

7 жыл бұрын

I remember when people were concerned about the unicorn hat... now this shit is ordinary

@logangoeller5678

7 жыл бұрын

I guess the design of it isn't all that aPEELing. Edit: Man, the amount of likes on this reply is BANANAS! (Ok, I'm done)

@blazeofglory4053

7 жыл бұрын

the pink or a green banana looks like cancer personified

@papapatooie7212

7 жыл бұрын

"It looks ridiculous" and that's why I love it

TF2 Gameplay = Just fun in gameplay, making hats and cosmetics non-sense TF2 Cinematics = The actual story, just some cosmetics that appear in the cinematics are actually "canon"

@mayo_-

4 жыл бұрын

Poor argument

@SharkyMcSnarkface

4 жыл бұрын

TF2 lore = Incomprehensible insanity

@JustinCage56

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hazgoblin "The girl is here too"?

@aaronking2020

3 жыл бұрын

@@SharkyMcSnarkface well yes, but actually no. Srsly it has real, understandable, lore, just read the comics.

5:10 *breathes heavily cause of the enjoyment for getting an unusual* *realises that its not an unusual* -goddamnit

@yassinelhossainy4224

7 жыл бұрын

Christian Brutal Sniper *GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

@saltysnoopy9361

7 жыл бұрын

lol

@someonefromsomewhere1009

7 жыл бұрын

DrIvanRadosivic I bunch of pixels that have real monetary value which means what you said means nothing

@george4763

7 жыл бұрын

Christian Brutal Sniper ща

AN OPINION ON THE INTERNET!? you FUNKed up

@josh1926swag

7 жыл бұрын

OH MY GOD YOU FUNKe-ING DIDNT

@gigaswardblade7261

7 жыл бұрын

at least he didnt go into dangerous territories. like for say... calling pyro garbage.

@tap5263

7 жыл бұрын

Hi

@thirst7827

7 жыл бұрын

Big Smoke You chose the wrong house fool

@d3gr4d3r8

7 жыл бұрын

LOL

"class distributions are always uneven" *USSR ANTHEM PLAYS*

@Spleemce

4 жыл бұрын

Hahhahah

@captain_hammer

4 жыл бұрын

Heavy didn't have enough items and now he's mad...

I installed TF2 earlier today, didn't even start up the game, and now youtube are recommending me this video when I've never been recommended, or watched TF2 videos..

@IAm-zo1bo

3 жыл бұрын

Just play dude it's fun i have over 200 hours in 2 months

@WhiffiE_

3 жыл бұрын

Google is watching

@m0j026

3 жыл бұрын

Did you keep playing or did the un-optimized mess that it is turn you off?

@martinmarvinii3139

3 жыл бұрын

Hope your having fun with it at least

you know what pisses me off? only engineer has bell bottom pants. it's 19 FUNKeing 68. they were in the world since cowboys were cowboys. i watched 30 seconds and I already agree with the whole video. the tf2 artstyle is far from what is was on the beginning. At least half of the cosmetics are promotional for other things, cosmetics dont with the personalities of the classes that wear them anymore, The community insists on creating bizarre and overealistic items that are not even close to fit the game style. Not disrespecting content creators, they keep the game alive, but cmon guys. fight me

@energeticyellow1637

7 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure it doesn't really take a genius to find out that TF2's art-style has gone down the shitter over the years.

@tomascanevaro4292

7 жыл бұрын

*fights you*

@notyouraverageskittelz696

7 жыл бұрын

i see you in every comment section are you like predicting my moves or something?

@michaelmouradian4386

7 жыл бұрын

Not Your Average Skittlez Said not a die hard FUNKe fan with not-a-FUNKe-prof-picture

@somemaycallthisjunkmeicall133

7 жыл бұрын

Boogie I DISAGREE (COUNTER ARGUEMENT)

I must correct you on the in-game timeline: *The Robot War started in 1972, not 1971, as 1972 is canonically the year in which Gray Mann murdered his brothers Redmond and Blutarch.* That date is supported by SEVERAL comics, including the dates given for Gray Mann's birth in 1822 and his own words that it's 150 years later when he murders his brothers, and the TF2 Update comic. The events of post-Robot War/post-retirement of the mercs must take place in at least 1973. The 1972 date on the Teufort police jail boards for Scout and Spy is either flat wrong due to a script error by the writers, or a hint that the brain-addled citizens of Teufort no longer know which year they are in. Unfortunately some idiots at the TF2 Wiki started retroactively back-dating all other timeline dates from that one erroneous date and ignored all discussion and proof to the contrary, deleting all attempts to correct the timeline.

@FUNKe

7 жыл бұрын

Apologies for getting it incorrect if this is the case.

@cufo7806

6 жыл бұрын

nurd lol

@Temmoie

6 жыл бұрын

Bunneer It's meant to be "Between the Cold War".

@Ice-wu8qq

6 жыл бұрын

I thought he said Roblox war .-. I feel embarassed. + Necroposting yay!

It's crazy how even after six years this video is still relevant.

I like the concept that the more outlandish ones should each have a toned-down version which you can enable like pyrovision.

This was a very well made video and I agreed with a lot of your points. Valve seriously needs to get their shit together.

@jerrymcghoulberry355

7 жыл бұрын

Um... What?

@jaidenmci899

7 жыл бұрын

it's too late for that

@Xenoforge78

7 жыл бұрын

+Jerry McGhoulberry His comment made complete sense. Are you on the drugs?

@2017tropmarrant

7 жыл бұрын

no they dont. plenty of people are pleased with the hats, whereas the weapons.... that's where valve should work on. and what do you want valve to do ? remove hats ? great idea

@2017tropmarrant

7 жыл бұрын

Matthew Champlain the main "problem" is just all class hats. items added for classes specifically are made for those classes. look at the last case. flash for scout, mario for engi. makes sense. red glasses for sniper as well as spy. makes sense. a gaz mask for pyro. makes sense.

I miss enjoying tf2

@ArchieGamez

7 жыл бұрын

Dead Meme same

@ZERO-tv5zg

7 жыл бұрын

then play it

@cocojambooverheaven1623

7 жыл бұрын

Star Male he says he misses enjoying it, not playing it.

@D1ab0lical

7 жыл бұрын

Markurrito Overwatch reminded me of how much fun TF2 is, because Overwatch definately isn't fun.

@yomotoSan

7 жыл бұрын

Because of the fact that it was released only a year ago, in comparison with TF2. And it already has all this cosmetic bullshit thing going on. I doubt it will last long, not for ten years for sure. The game is most certainly not that fun because of its toxic community. Even in freaking arcade I frequently meet people who whine when they see a Hanzo or Widow in their team or overall complain about their team being bad. Nobody's playing for fun, they play to earn lootboxes or SR (on custom arcade servers the situation is a bit better though). In TF2 you could, for instance, snipe each other on the 2fort balcony for ages and nobody would tell you to change the class or else they would leave.

This actually aged fantastically

The topic of this video has unfortunately aged too well. All the new cosmetics getting put in look awful and have no place in the art style. Video is great though and it still matches tf2s current cosmetic and warpaint market

Dude, funkE, *AMAZING EDITING!* Props to you man!

@overxgaming7948

7 жыл бұрын

drew1212 I agree, good job :D

@WailFin

7 жыл бұрын

drew1212 🎵 _It's not unuuuusual..._

@ZebraOnYourNose

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed, amazing work!

Now days the heavy likes bananas

@dasverlorenewort8498

6 жыл бұрын

Ye

The problem with Spy dark clothes that I can't say if it's Blu or Red..

3:18 How *do* I stop my *dog* from ruining my grass.

OH NO! OPINIONS! SAVE ME GABEN!

@ifoundthisnewsite7805

7 жыл бұрын

REEEEEEEE

@HaxxorElite

7 жыл бұрын

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

@thederpscoutreturns8709

6 жыл бұрын

Okay, we get it.

This was a very well made and edited video but it's a damn shame this game has become unrecognisable.

@dingding12321

6 жыл бұрын

...aesthetically, at least.

@bennemann

6 жыл бұрын

I predicted this would happen the day the community-made weapons came out, and quit the game in protest that very day. They threw down the drain everything they had been saying of how they had to carefully balance each weapon out (and that's why updates took so long). Today's TF2 is but an empty husk of what it once was.

@AyeAyeKane

6 жыл бұрын

Unrecognisable? I think that’s a bit far. For a 10 year old game the overall look has stayed the same

@pinkrton9913

6 жыл бұрын

You do realize that VALVe decides the weapon stats themselves right?

@bennemann

6 жыл бұрын

That changes nothing, Pink. When the Jarate update came out for the Sniper, people were complaining about how each class update took excessively long to come out, and Valve replied that's because they balanced the stats for each weapon very carefully and that took a lot of time. You're gonna tell me they used to take months to balance a couple weapons before, but then magically became capable to balance dozens of weapons with the same care in a much shorter timespan?

5:31 Incase someone wants to watch that again

this aged well

2:37 Cue the barrage of 'DURR IS THIS A JOJO REFERENCE??!!??!' Comments

@csurfk1ng426

7 жыл бұрын

A Dog yes

@faceless2302

7 жыл бұрын

well, is it a jojo reference?

@adamrousseau9791

7 жыл бұрын

Well.....it is....who hurt you?

@nisala591

7 жыл бұрын

*inhales* IS THAT A JOJO'S REFERENCE!

@THATBRIGHTLINK0987

7 жыл бұрын

What is Jojo?

Jesus fucking christ this game has changed since i left

@wasdplayer

6 жыл бұрын

shit happens, we leave shit behind, we move on.

@thegreatesthigh1788

6 жыл бұрын

You should never go back and go play overwatch

@connormcgregor3616

6 жыл бұрын

LunarErection That’s a downgrade

@MsaneGaming

6 жыл бұрын

Connor McGregor *Upgrade.

@Cry-vp7ec

6 жыл бұрын

2007 2017 ya I think it's going to change

5:49 that is an actually forum, with an actual post that was actually made 10 years ago, that is actually *still* going

This video, even 6 years later, is still spot-on about the current state of cosmetics. I dunno how anyone can look at the absolute garbage that's been pumped into the game over the past several years and think that valve gives a damn about it

Maybe...it's not death. Maybe...it's evolution. Maybe...sniff...maybe.

@marcuscetina7905

6 жыл бұрын

Ofc a style can evolve, as it should, but how are you going to defend a banana? Some of the new cosmetics look nice, a step forward in the evolution, but how do you defend 6:57?

@takiller237

6 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, for 6:57 we have to define ''stupid''. I will concede that players do wear cosmetics that deviate from the norm however, I personally feel that cosmetics really fit the cartoon comic-book style TF2 had going for it. TF2 is a zany,crazy, not-so-serious game to me. The absurd stuff in TF2 makes it so different from other games haha. I guess you could say stupid for one person is entertaining for another. As for the Potassium Bonnett , If you look at www.teamfortress.com/tf03_cold_day_in_hell/#f=20 , the Halloweiner would be cannon to TF2 haha(although it's Halloween only). Sure some might think it kills the style but it's amazing to me that players can equip something from the comic they just seen. Of course the Potassium Bonnett it not part of the cannon and is player created, but I feel that it still kinda fits. If a hotdog is cannon, the banana is not too far off haha. I have played TF2 for 7 years. Back then we did not have trading and only a few hats. I have watched people like Shibby2142, Jerma985 , STAR_ , ikonakona , LazyPurple, FUNKe and more play TF2. It's heartwarming to see FUNKe make so many valid points with passion, keep it up!

@cyaegha293

6 жыл бұрын

its your opinion, so what you say is not true

@Megajmaster1000

5 жыл бұрын

momiji lily same goes for this video

@ScruffyGamerAnimations

5 жыл бұрын

I have yet to meet one that could outsmart banana hat.

I added everything up and here are the results. If he sold everything he opened, he would get: $50.65/25.15 Keys back at a $74.35/24.85 Key loss. If he kept at least 1 of each item (Strange Priority) then he would get: $19.33/9.6 Keys back at a $105.67/40.4 Key loss. If you want the best bang for your buck, then don't open crates, just buy items directly.

@67tedward

7 жыл бұрын

Crate opening just plays off of gambling highs in the same way that roulette does.

@maplepuff2358

6 жыл бұрын

But the items originate from the crates, meaning that if everyone followed this logic, there would be barely any items in circulation making them expensive. Which would cause people to buy crates and sell the items inside causing the price to go down, resulting in the circulation of items we have now. You can't buy the items off the mann co. Store as they don't sell new items through there anymore, you have to open crates.

@Bobromil

6 жыл бұрын

Well it's a gamble, you can easily make a profit if you get lucky. It's just lottery, you can buy items at market value or you can get the item for the price of a key and the box. Just gotta get lucky

@Skullgobbler

6 жыл бұрын

Almost 3300 hours in game, no aussies, no unus, and literally the most unlucky player ever (Crits at spawn and third degree strangefiers for life

This video has aged like a fine wine, especially when you consider stuff like "Grunt of the Litter" that have now sprung up on the workshop.

3:28 that has to be the most hilarious scout I have seen in my whole life xD

wOW too opinionated -1/10

@tythesmonk4819

7 жыл бұрын

valtroid this will get pinned because you a potato

@kukgod9196

7 жыл бұрын

valtroid where the fuck are you?

@punkly8423

7 жыл бұрын

Valty is Salty part 2

@AGenericAlias

7 жыл бұрын

valtroid oh hey mum

@ChuckNorris-xy7gu

7 жыл бұрын

Upload more, or else this newly picked potato gets it! That's right. Upload more, or I shoot the little innocent potato. Its your choice.

You know, I never really noticed the odd style switch that TF2 underwent, even when I was playing it. It's weird how over the top the cosmetics got even by the Meet the Pyro update, plus cases seem just as... infuriating as ever. Is this really how bad items have gotten in recent years? Anyway, this is a fun video! Really calm and humorous discussion about the subject, and the subtle "It's Not Unusual" at 5:07 was great. Overall, this vide- 2:37 WAIT HE ACTUALLY MADE A STAND STATS SCREEN THE EFFORT PUT INTO THIS IS TOO GOOD

@thederpscoutreturns8709

6 жыл бұрын

I never have an Unusual, but I did get a Specialized Killstreak Frying Pan on the Steam Market. *has Decidueye in Pokemon Moon. Just beaten game last night... or the night before...*

@ThomasMink

6 жыл бұрын

I noticed it as soon as it was added to the game back during the Sniper/Spy update. And it only got progressively worse as time went on.

Potassium Bonnet: **Exists** Robin Walker: Yeah shutter glasses are pretty out there.

Funny how even after 6 years this video is still correct.

@candidfob8423

6 ай бұрын

except for that fact that it isn't at all, yeah

@McJuggins

6 ай бұрын

⁠@candidfod8423 me when I lie

I agree with you on disliking Valve's sudden decision to make tons of hats and cosmetic items (older items and new ones) all-class, and bemourning the lack of funny item descriptions caused by Valve adopting the stupid CS:GO cases with tiered "grades" design instead of the TF2 crates of old with their more "democratic" (presumably?) even drop chance for each hat. And 4:51 min is a damn shame: The long-sleeved jacked for the Heavy is fitted so that it and the hood belong together. I coudl live without the trousers if I had to, but the jacket not being put in is a damn shame, esp in light of the Heavy always getting way fewer items than Scout, Pyro, Engineer or Soldier. Some of the blame lies in the workshop having fewer Heavy items in general, but there are still many good ones. Just look at how long it took them to FINALLY give the Heavy a Hawaiian shirt... and it wasn't even the best one that was in the Workshop.

Well, I guess we know who likes bananas now

@ScruffyGamerAnimations

5 жыл бұрын

@The Legend of Texas Get a life

@shlumpd3045

5 жыл бұрын

you mean we know who doesn't

@alicesantos9469

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScruffyGamerAnimations what did he say tho

@ScruffyGamerAnimations

3 жыл бұрын

@@alicesantos9469 I don't remember

@alicesantos9469

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScruffyGamerAnimations oh dang

As someone who's never played TF2, I have no idea what any of this was about, or why I watched the whole thing

@user-md4nm6tb8d

5 жыл бұрын

Same lol

I'd even extend this argument to taunts, albeit to a lesser degree. Not only do some clash with the atmosphere but I really like TF2's lore and I feel it doesn't make sense for the mercs to be driving around in cartoonishly small cars or taunts infantilasing Pyro

@StormTrooperEX

9 ай бұрын

lesser degree vehicle taunts have become absurd like the new heavy car and medic ambulance

@damianateiro

Ай бұрын

We are talking about the game set in the 60s/70s where a group of mercenaries prior to the protagonists use equipment from the 90s.....

That claidheamh mor nerdf really sucked

@cheerfulpessimist952

7 жыл бұрын

RIP Bison

@oracidrep

7 жыл бұрын

UnlimitedBreadWorks both are really unusable.

@PivoteroIniciante

7 жыл бұрын

cleaver.

@3DMegaGamer

7 жыл бұрын

When was the last balance update? Oh yeah, almost a year ago.

@noloveishere

7 жыл бұрын

hey, i really like kara no kyoukai too!

the "It's not unusual" bit at 5:09 really got me!

@ghostmangm3059

2 жыл бұрын

"After 7 'What's new pussycat' s in a ROW ...Suddenly Dum ts nunum ts dum ts nunununununum It's not unusual"

To be honest, I'm less worried about things fitting time period wise, just more on "How would [blank] look if it was in this game and normalized in it's universe?" To a point though, because I'd fucking vomit if I saw an allclass taunt where a merc vapes while riding a hoverboard and checking how many bitcoins he had via some smartphone (Don't get any ideas.) It's more "Is the saturation right/Is it porportioned enough/Does the color palette fit?" That sorta deal. I sorta see the problem occuring commonly on the newer unusuals and (some of) the community made cosmetics. Not to say I avoid them like the plague, because I still see them as usable, it's just a tad awkward. But hey, that's what mat_phong 0 is for. (if you're not overly autistic with original color consistancies of the source materials like I am.)

@icekitty11

5 жыл бұрын

Scout would own a hoverboard if he could though and promptly roll it off a cliff

@NikolasoGames

3 жыл бұрын

I get it why execution is important but execution involves that maybe that outfit or hat doesn't fit that character, It doesn't exactly need to be of that "time period" as we know that some of the stuff in TF2 lore about technology are a bit more advanced because of Australium and Australia overall. In Tf2's case, that is very important as they've established a certain type for each character, also earlier cosmetics that represent the individual well and have better stories. If I was a professional comic creator, game creator, writer, film director, I wouldn't want that shit to happen and I don't understand why someone wouldn't care. It's just a mess and it shows that the art directors are really off track for some reason. Creating a charming character or atmosphere is something they need to care about, it brings people to the game and to stay.

This video was ahead of its time

5:53 WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST FUCKIGN SAY ABOUT MY SULPHUROUS YOU LITLE FUNK!?!?!?!?!?!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

@hyrw2951

6 жыл бұрын

Burny | Happys Edits | TF2 Hey

That outro... is fucking perfect

@sebiblasko8608

6 жыл бұрын

Conga WHAT SONG IS IT??

@Scoobertdoobert169

6 жыл бұрын

Sebi Blasko Light years will burn by Ozma

@sebiblasko8608

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks alot dude!have a nice day=)

@Scoobertdoobert169

6 жыл бұрын

Sebi Blasko any time :)

Funke and zesty warned us. But alas, the greedy dismiss them

@diegodankquixote-wry3242

7 ай бұрын

Apparently, funke no longer agrees with this video.

@FUNKe

7 ай бұрын

I do agree with this video, I just don't like how many people use it as evidence of a big problem when in reality a lot of these things are arbitrary and subjective problems, and people use it that way because the video frames every problem as equally bad

@kingkoopa64

7 ай бұрын

@FUNKe oh my..I never thought a person like you funke would comment here. I get Its not that big of a problem like the aimbot crisis. But it's just sad to see popular cosmetic creators disrespect the tf2 visuals, Desgin, and put no thought into it.

@nullvoid3545

7 ай бұрын

@@kingkoopa64 *this* is why I feel calling these efforts "expression" is unreasonable. Effort could be put in, and thanks to our constant lobbying sometimes it is. But if this is going to change we are going to have to be very loud, because VALVE is L A Z Y and will not enforce quality unless we make enough noise to shake the outside perception. When variety streamers that don't play TF2 but like to mention how good it is for clout, start mentioning the lack of quality control *then* we might get someone to hold responsible. Then we can finally stop all the fighting, but for now things will continue to escalate in the usual TF2 community way.

@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty

3 ай бұрын

​@@FUNKe Like dude you're wrong though, these things absolutely are not arbitrary. These cosmetics are OBJECTIVELY BAD.

3:49 so did Scott pilgrim but no one ever talks about him

@Hisokuu

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@sauercrowder

3 жыл бұрын

Well it's already him vs the world so I kinda feel like there's no reason for me to pile on ya know

This was a good video. Actual feedback on these types of videos is very uncommon, and your animated way of showcasing them is very nice.

--I think I remember from Dane's trip video that the team is only like 5 people. One programmer, one writer, rest art people.-- Edit: I misheard.

@im_sorry_i_forgot_my_username

7 жыл бұрын

No, that's absolutely not the case. There's 16 people in total

@digiquo8143

7 жыл бұрын

im_sorry_i_forgot_my_username There's definitely not 16 people. It was confirmed like last year that there are only 3-5 people working on TF2 at any given moment. The variation there is probably due to the people that work on TF2 full time with some people who focus on other projects who occasionally come to work on TF2.

@Drakkona123

7 жыл бұрын

3-5 *programmers*

@Teragat

7 жыл бұрын

Valve said in an interview that there are about 15 people and 5 of those are programmers.

"Does anyone in this game like bananas" Laughs in heavy secondary

6:23 They mever fixed it. You have to manually choose the class with the numbers. But heavy is f****ed up

"do any of these characters like bananas?" Yep, this was before Jungle Inferno

He told us, he fucking warned us. And now look what happened. This is Valve's final punishment. The end is near.

Whatever you say, Heavy's "ushanka" is a pure gold.

"I'm pretty sure these weren't around before the seventies..." "Automail, *1923* germany

i just notices the thumbnail is a reference to the death of a salesman cover

how is tf2 not dead yet can valve sell tf2 to some other company when will they fix their shit how many years will we wait has ow killed tf2 will STAR_ come back have all youtubers left tf2 ALL THESE QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED IN 9 YEARS FOR THE PYRO UPDATE HOPEFULLY IT WILL HAVE BEEN WORTH THE WAIT

@maemsy

7 жыл бұрын

oh my god I just realized they are going to make updates for EVERY. OTHER. CLASS. jesus fuck

@arvidbergman

7 жыл бұрын

Ster is getting sort of bored of overwatch but he'll certainly not come back to tf2, as he constantly hates on the tf2 community and his tf2 fanbase on stream, and also makes valve look dumb by bringing up how long we have to wait for tf2 updates.

@digiquo8143

7 жыл бұрын

TBH, I don't see TF2 becoming popular again. Not without Valve expanding the team to at least two dozen people instead of just *three*. I think they'd be better off with making Team Fortress 3, and building it from the ground up in Source 2.

@digiquo8143

7 жыл бұрын

Chip ​Potato Take it with a grain of salt, but nobody fucking owns "their" items. They don't belong to you. You lease them from Valve, and they can do whatever the hell they want with them. Valve could up and say, "y'know, cosmetic items were a bad idea" and remove them completely from their games the next day and nobody would have any legal precedent to sue because they're Valve's to do with as they please. Personally, I don't give a shit if I don't get to carry over my items from TF2 to the theoretical TF3. I like cosmetics, but I'm not asinine enough to think I'm entitled to use them across every game I play. I'd much rather have a fully-fleshed out, bug-free, improved adaptation of TF2 on a whole new title, than be stuck with the current shitty mess Valve has left us with just because "MA HATS".

@tewwasian5973

7 жыл бұрын

Unseeing Candy STAR_ uninstalled TF2

Heavy likes bananas, he got the Second Banana as a lunchbox item and eats it without hesitation like a good boy

As much as I like the egregious items, I can agree that the art style of TF2 has died over the years

FUNKe!! I have come from the future to tell you I really appreciate this video. I heard someone was trying to flame you on twitter or something but I think you made great points here.

Does that mean that he is into overwatch trading?

@mrcopycat2355

7 жыл бұрын

EngiNOPE One shudders at the thought of what would happen if that was possible...

@juliannatale6743

7 жыл бұрын

Overwatch cosmetics are trash

@humiddanny1212

7 жыл бұрын

yes

@archdukeferdinandofthe3rdc9

7 жыл бұрын

I have a serous problem with you calling the Nevermore, Dune Buggy, and Oasis skins trash.

@Lil_Brimstone

7 жыл бұрын

TF2 does cosmetics much better than Overwatch. Cosmetics in Overwatch do not exist, they are cookie cutter skins, there is no point in wearing any of them because they are all average, they don't show your style or lack of style. "Wow, nice legendary skin, I only saw it like 90 times this week", in TF2 it doesn't happen, you never see another unique loadout.

This video is more relevant then it was 4 years ago

I come back here every now and then each case, hoping to think you are wrong but no, this video holds up too well sadly

Love the points made and you're pretty accurate on all things reflecting crates. However for me and a lot of people the odd comical gimicky gauty cosmetics like the banana and the increasingly wackier unsuals and rarities only make me want to open crates more and these cosmetics, especially recent ones that aren't blue, have been a drawing back point into the game multiple times. Cheers.

@ocularskewer1245

2 жыл бұрын

fancy seeing you here, garth from lisa the painful.

Tinder in a nutshell "We have this one, it's not out of place and it looks nice." R/Niceguys *_"thIS oNE's jUsT a BaNAHna"_*

they should have had the oculus look like it was powered by a CRT instead of an LCD, because its TF2 and then just add an oculus logo to the side

Funny how these items showed are mostly still fine compared to what got added now

Isnt the in game world of TF2 supposed to be a work of fiction? Like how Left 4 Dead is supposed to be a movie series

@damianluna7700

6 жыл бұрын

Well there really hasn't been any hints toward it being something like an act or story told by someone yet so only time will tell.

@chinois11

6 жыл бұрын

nah, it's obviously a documentary

@coryclark9120

6 жыл бұрын

I feel like it’s more of a comic series which were very popular in the 1950s and it fits with the cartoony aesthetics

@SkylordSweddy

6 жыл бұрын

TheSealMayor Not an excuse.

@energeticyellow1637

6 жыл бұрын

It was based off of spy movies and propaganda used during the 20th century, so...

And now, Scout can have two bodies. Without restrictions.

This sadly aged way too well.

Wait those amazing glasses, back in 2011 were ''bad, egregious''?? They look very much like tf2 artstyle, huh.

IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING JOJO'S REFERENCE?!

@serd7147

6 жыл бұрын

Doppio _ THERES ALWAYS FUCKING TIME FOR A MOTHAFUCKING JOJO'S REFERENCE!!

I always kind of saw the banana hat as an act of contempt towards people who actually like the game. It simultaneously shows flagrant disregard for the artstyle altogether, while simultaneously asserting that they can get traders to value literally anything so long as it's rare enough. If that hat was on the lowest tier, it would be as forgotten as the vascular vestment. I remember that there used to be a lot of apologia for the shift in artstyle, and this was back when things like the cow mangler and such were contentious objects that clashed somewhat with the style in a much less severe way than the present. The game used to be beautiful, and it used to be kind of balanced. The only reason I still play it is because the gameplay still maintains some semblance of the game I originally loved. As much as I hope the pyro update turns things around, it may be the one where I just uninstall and try to find something else to balance the game further around making it an abominable lowbrow unimaginative shitstorm to appeal to the even the basest of 11 year olds to con out of their parents money. It's pretty much what's making me give up on games altogether. Valve used to be a great company, I used to aspire to want to work for them when I was a little kid... but now I just see them as no more extraordinary than nintendo. I don't mind personalization. some of the cosmetics are ok, even if they push the envelope of the old artstyle - especially since the old artstyle doesn't even exist anywhere in vanilla play due to model and lighting changes over the years. But so much of the new stuff is pandering garbage.

@allhailthecartlord7256

5 жыл бұрын

So uh, now that the Pyro update (and some other shit) is out... Whaddya think?

3:42 "editors note probably not factually correct" yeah, now it's 0.5 devs and 23 potted plants

Man this video is more relevant now than EVER. Dont get me wrong I'll ALWAYS be a fan of cursed loadouts that make me question my mental well-being but, now... The artstyle is being hung out to dry. In the desert. I hate sand it's course and-

We need a similar video but for Counter-Strike: Global Offensive.

Is it me or was the fake death scream idea Funke (probably jokingly) showed a really good idea?

Such a relief that this vid is back on youtube. This is my favorite FUNKe vid

@AnAbsurdExistence

5 жыл бұрын

Non-Shingy Audino I’m so glad it’s back, it’s such an inspiration, makes me want to try even harder on my own videos

@theUBERsashimi

5 жыл бұрын

It's a video about complaining and then going back on your opinion at 6:59. That's what you look up to? Lel.

@z39836

5 жыл бұрын

@@theUBERsashimi I think what he meant to say by that was that even though these are problems, it's not like they're going to kill his enjoyment of the game or probably anyone's for that matter. Yes, taking that single line out of context does make him seem like he's contradicting himself but what he says after that line starts to paint a more clearer picture on why he said that

@SnackPatrol

5 жыл бұрын

What happened? Why was this taken down or whatever?

@bevvvy1374

4 жыл бұрын

@@z39836 Yeah but I mean it's still just an entire video dedicated to complaining about cosmetics in a F2P game. Besides majority of the stuff in the video isn't even objective. And that's not even bringing up how pretentious and clickbaity the title is.

My favorite funke vid of all time, hands down.