Every Avatar system I've heard hits hard.

The best and most enjoyable channel in car audio, right here. Team Parker all day! 💯

Love the channel. Love seeing it grow from your first uploads to now. Sky’s the limit my man! There’s gotta be at least a million car audio geeks like us in the world who’ll follow this channel once they discover it! If you were to present yourself and this channel to the manufacturers, I reckon that most would be willing to lend you their drivers to demo/test. They’d get free advertising directly targeted at their key customers, and all it would cost them is shipping. Sure, the occasional sub would get killed, but that’s rare for the higher quality of drivers you review.

Parker is da man! Always high quality videos and he’s always honest.

Yesss the legend uploaded. Making my crappy day ten times better. Keep up the awesome work. All your vids always brighten my day. Keep bassin on broski!!

Both are subs are powerhouses not sure which I’d get I’m working on a build and looking at options based off of previous videos. Appreciate all the time you put in on these-

I would go avatar stu I'm fond of playing full tilt into low 20s even tho it's outta tuning I never hear the subs struggle nor do they bottom out plus that little extra xmax always looks better on camera😎

Great video man! I always enjoy your content and aswell as your positive vibes

I personally like the avatar look because of that sexy orange basket and chrome motor, that being said both subs are freaking sick and take insane amounts of power. That avatar would look sick all inverted ! Keep up the sick videos and I gotta enter for that kicker giveaway! 🤘🏻🇺🇸🤘🏻🇺🇸

Great video and I love that smd!! Definitely getting one in the future. I’m about to add another bass 8k and run my 2 Nsv5 12s at .5

Thanks for another great video. Always try to watch everyone and give you a thumbs up

Another awesome video Parker!👏where are your + and - from your AMM1 going to?

I was watching this ony home theater. Almost fell off the couch when the bass dropped around and 6:50!🤣🤣🤣

@HashDogg06

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately my laptop didn't give me the same result.

I'm seriously debating a 8+ sub build for my Ford E-350 gutted 12 passenger V10 van. And want to stick with my black and orange everything-in-my-life theme. So still thinking Avatar and the bounce is getting very trendy and I love the uniqueness the Avatar has currently for sure. Great vid good sir!

@UrAvgBasshead

2 жыл бұрын

Go Avatar won’t regret it. I run 4 SVL’s 1847.

@junyah1976

6 ай бұрын

@@UrAvgBasshead how are they holding up? do they hit the lows?

Cmon folks, let's give the man a like. I personally would also choose the avatar but good grief the db ap is a mean sub. Great video bro thanks for sharing

Great content parker

@ParkerTheBasshead

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

One addition to your videos that I could suggest you might do is to weigh the woofers when you review them... Some people are curious as to what each might weigh exactly compared to the others, I know I am lol

Absolutely love the channel. Not sure if I missed it but I have a tj wrangler and want stealthboxes. Have you done a top 5 “8 inch sub video?

I like those avatars. I’d run a couple-of those for sure

I love the Deaf Bounce. Don’t know why but I really like that Xmax on that one really can move some air!!!!

I do like the cheome motor and the orange TI frame alot but the apocalypse is just a higher quality sub, but id say there both comparable, and if you using a smaller amp the apocalypse's 3" coil and softer suspention likely is better choice and SQ is probably higher.

@rashoanbrown5482

2 жыл бұрын

That Avatar Sounds So Good Tho

@marktolosa428

2 жыл бұрын

@nate0 come on gee have you ever tried avatars my 12's are beast there the same sub

@GTILOUD

4 ай бұрын

​@@marktolosa428you got some stu1246 12s?

You make some quality videos. Keep it up

To people watching in 2023-24. The Avatar price went down, DB went up. That avatar is like $440 now. The DB is like 550-600

@GTILOUD

4 ай бұрын

It's $292 for months now

@johnnyrambo7049

3 ай бұрын

@@GTILOUDwhere

i enjoyed this video.i wish could get a pride st 12 to do more comparisons

I like the way the deaf bonce apocalypse looks so that one would be my choice

Great video Parker

Great review!!!!

4 inch coil gives you that control id have to go 15 or bigger but still both awesome subs

I love these comparisons, lets get the American Bass 12XMAX vs Deaf Bonce 3512R-D2 vs Incriminator Audio Warden D2 vs DS-18 Hooligan X12.4 DHE and the Soundstream X5.12!

Keep up the good work man! I'd like to see how these compare to the American bass xmaxxx monster. Same price range, but 3500 rms.

@andrewcotton8564

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah

@rickeybraggs1956

2 жыл бұрын

The 12's in xmaxx are 3500/7000 and the 15's are 4000/8000 I own both 12 and 15's xmaxx

@hectordominguez5742

Жыл бұрын

How the 12s sound do they hit the lows ?

Great review!

great vid! like them both

Ive been waiting in this review.I have two 12 avatars just breaking them in right now.I do like the look of the deaf bonce tho

@steveward95

5 ай бұрын

What kinda amp you running to them I got 2 myself haven’t hooked them up yet

@GTILOUD

4 ай бұрын

​@@steveward95hook them up yet?

Quit telling people that the black coating makes the coil more durrable. Missinformation.

@kamrenmy7007

Ай бұрын

^^^THIS^^^ The glue was just different/baked longer.

I have 8 stu-1246 Avatars on my build and if you can afford to feed them power all I gotta say is omfg it is breaking my truck apart I cracked 2 windshields and I do some bad ass hair tricks with them. Love the Avatar series line!!!!!!!!

@GTILOUD

4 ай бұрын

They're on crazy sale right now too might have to grab a pair

@BeanieMan252

4 ай бұрын

@@GTILOUDgo for it, just got my 2 3515R’s delivered today!

Yes you hit it rite on keep it up

Also, wiring to 1ohm or .5 ohms means no resistance, which means you'll probably end up blowing them up 2ohms is usually the sweet spot Sq and spl

The avatar was flexing yo whip more than the DB, i love my avatars stu’s.

@GTILOUD

4 ай бұрын

Bruh they just went on crazy sale $292 for stu 12s right now! I'm thinking of grabbing a couple

@bigamp2527

4 ай бұрын

I just got 2 18s

@Nicholas-im8bd

3 ай бұрын

@@GTILOUDUH WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY OPN SALE THAT CHEAP?>?? lET ME GET IN ON A COUPLE OF THOSE BRUH ,,,, shit please? lol

Parker look at the toro subwoofer.thay have a force and a fierce.one is budget and one is there big boy there something to take a look at.

I have the Apocolypse DB412...had to buy the Sundown SFB13500 and bunch of lithium just to have something powerful enough to beat on it!.. And they still take it all

Very Nice Bro!

Great video! How about a new American built sub, Nep audio out of Connecticut. There HDv2 subs look amazing

Parker ya need to do a Rs platinum Should compare them to these 2 subs , would be interested to see the comparison I run 4-Rs plat in my work truck and very pleased with them with the 6th order , on 2 bass 8ks now but will be running 2-15ks or one 20k this season

@countryboisavage

2 жыл бұрын

RS for the win

Would be nice with some massive audio sub rewiew

If you ever get a chance try a dd or a dc audio 12 of the same comparison

I'm wondering why they don't use a permanent magnet assembly. To keep the weight down and the size as well

Parker can you please test a American bass God father they come in 12 or 15 throw like 3000 rms I haven’t seen a good detailed video about them and also I love your videos !!

My favorite is the 3012R but i miss the ovni motor

I'd probably go with the db. That avatar would look mean inverted though

@UrAvgBasshead

2 жыл бұрын

They do that’s how I have my 4 SVL 1847’s

maybe the x-max for both subs are defined differently - i'm not 100 percent sure, but seems to be at avatar it is defined as by completely stretching out the spider, and at db notmally as overhang and maybe some +mm - i think that because their motors height difference, and hand in hand with that, their coils winding height difference is not as big as difference bttween their x-maxes...so 🤷‍♂

Both really great looking subs👍👍

Can you make a playlist overview of your songs to test subwoofer?

Do a review on the CT sounds subwoofer

Parker ur my hero I been looking at those avatars for a while now saving my money I love the way they look so so glad you did this now will you sell me that stu lol

@GTILOUD

4 ай бұрын

They're on sale now big dog

I have a db apocalypse 12 it bangs thumbs up

I want the apacolypse. I love that sub.

Hi Parker, time for you to do your research and learn a little more about speakers. Xmax is the limit of the motor system design. Electromagnetic interaction of coil and magnet. Xmax (mechanical) is the limit of the spider, surround and baseplate.

@scottiffanimccord1509

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. thx

What songs do you use when testing the subs in your system?

Bro do you have your suv totally dynamated? Those bad boys are flexin🤪. I miss the car audio scene so much. In the Midwest (KC) it was huge!! Up here in seattle not so much. But I’m gonna change that lol the neighbors are going to hate me so much very soon!!!

well, without real world bass experience, but all DB seems to be "better" then all avatar speakers... have six 8" DB machete mids, and they play like crasy, love them

Why dont you test 15 inch and 18 inch subs ?

Almost got the avatar but went with the 3012r. Actually went with 4 of them. Never heard the avatar play but am pretty happy with the 3012r's so far

@chrisbrady1167

2 жыл бұрын

Yo I went with 4 of them also and the apocalypse aak 8k and I love them they get down

@ScramTek

2 жыл бұрын

That’s some serious LF stage you’ve got there! What’s your setup? Type of enclosure, size, tuning etc? What’s your front stage (mids/tweeters)? And lastly, what’s powering them and how much did you upgrade electrical supply?

@w7cobalt

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScramTek my box is about 10 and change cf internal cant remember exactly but its tuned to 34. Right now I have them wired to 1ohm on a dd m4a but going to put more power to them at some point. I run a js alternator 370 amp with 2 105 ah agms. When driving I stay between 12.5 to 14 volts at full volume depending the fq I'm playing. My mids an highs ain't done yet but for now I run 4 crescendo un 6.5s with 2 soundqubed pro 6.5s and 2 crescendo pwx 6.5s on a deaf bonce 500.4. Will eventually be adding more batterys possibly another alternator if needed more power for the subs an more 6.5s an tweeters with a separate amp for them. I have some vid on my channel of the current setup as well as previous setups

U should meter db's on music for woofer reviews its more real world and it would add a new dynamic for daily drivers most of us arent burping our setups..

EMF audio Banhammer subwoofer eta is this month. I plan on buying one. I’d love to see a review of it. As far as the avatar maybe it doesn’t have as much xmech as the other. I’d pick more xmax over xmech. Also if u have more power the 4” coil would be the way to go. assuming there similar quality and construction

@troydefond2307

2 жыл бұрын

I second this. I ordered 3 12's so very very curious to see him put these on.

@PeterFeltersnatch852

Жыл бұрын

@@troydefond2307 how you like them?

Thank you

Parker put all this 4" verses 3" coil to bed and test the B2 Rampage! Are they worth the money NO! but B2 did change the 4" coil woofer with a custom basket and an oversized spider. PS Brother love yea man!

@GTILOUD

4 ай бұрын

For 1300 is say fuck no they're not

@Parker. I really enough your videos. Off topic question, looking for your opinion. How powerful of an amp would you go before doing electrical upgrades (big3, alternator, battery etc)? I have a 2000 watt max amp, but the subs i have can handle more. Im happy with it, but you know how it is, you always want a little more.

@nicholasbeck4183

2 жыл бұрын

Bro I’ve been going through that same dilemma for a long time now. With me it’s a money issue but if your subs can handle more you will look for more to give em. Your amp is 2000 max so probably 800-1000, depending on the brand. You’ll be fine with stock electrical as long as it’s in good shape up to 1500 watts RMS with occasional burps of 2-3000. I’ve heard you can do 2000 RMS but I don’t recommend it. I’d say if you are gonna have RMS power of 1000 watts or higher then it is a good idea to do the Big 4 upgrade at least. Can’t hurt. And when doing it do it right with 100% OFC wire at least 1/0 gauge Car audio wire and if you are gonna use welding cable then go with 2/0 gauge it is equivalent to 1/0 oversized sky high audio cable. Take the time and money to do it then you don’t have anything to worry about. And fusing , don’t forget to fuse everyu

@ezstreet6547

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicholasbeck4183 Thanks!!!

@TheDoozie43

2 жыл бұрын

any bigger and you’ll want an alternator first followed by an additional battery in the trunk with a nice agm under hood. Under hood would be good to do with the alt.

could you try out a GAS GPP300D1 against a EDGE EDP122SPL-E6 subwoofer please

If this was an apples to apples comparison both subs being at .5 I bet that avatar will gain at least that .6-.7 back... Wire the DB at 2 ohm and see how far down it is from the avatar, I bet more then .6-.7 . Nice vid btw

I know this is crazy expensive but you should review a hutchinson subwoofer.

That was a perfect video. Was looking at both subs. Im looking to run 4 12s in a wall. What 4 will get higher spl numbers?

@RomaVilla

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely the avatar, that 4 inch coil can take more power in my opinion.

@mattadams7922

2 жыл бұрын

I'm willing to bet in a walled build for spl the Def Bonce. The Def Bonce technically has the higher Mech excursion max. I suspect the Avatar will have better sound quality though. The Deaf Bonce will also be more affordable to push to silly numbers then the Avatar if your are solely going for pure SPL with no Sound quality involved. It is all in what your true goals are.

What’s better the db 3012R or the RS Onyx 12 2500 Rms woofer ?

Much power 💪

Anyone know if the avatar will be safe mounted sideways instead of sub up ? Ive heard those baskets are weak and prone to crack ?

Ok which 12 can take the most power and give me the lows? Running Wolfram 4500.1

On a side note, why not try an American Bass Godfather against the Avatar both having 4in coils . That would be a cool test

@got2getit204

11 ай бұрын

American bass king!

I looked on Facebook and couldn't find the link to comment on the kicker. Any help would be appreciated.

Can't get the DB 3012 anywhere completely sold out. Trying to do my build and I'm stuck

What I find nuts about this review is the AB XFL hits just as hard on the db scale. Guess these hair trick harder down low. Cool video and those are sweet subs.

@faaaaq

2 жыл бұрын

XFLs exist for SPL on the cheap. They are the new Kicker: not bad, but nothing noteworthy, just cheap volume. Like the Kicker CVRs from the mid to late 2000s. I killed a 15 inch XFL from clipping (terrible electrical in a 99 Town Car, even with a supercap, HO alt, full 0awg OFC, etc etc, but still had pretty common MASSIVE voltage drops...) and tossed a $100 Audiopipe in the exact same setup with no adjustments and the Audiopipe sounded a lot better, not quite as loud, and took the abuse way better. In fact Im still using it on my computer's 2.1 system. Didnt hit as low but across the freq range sounded better. The XFL died after around 15 minutes of solid play, and the Audiopipe played full tilt for two back to back 2.5 hour drives. Replaced that with an Earthquake Subzero and that obvs blew both out the water ha, but way more money too.

@CP-vg4vy

Жыл бұрын

The XFL is an amazing sub.

@imfrom210texas

8 ай бұрын

​@@faaaaqKicker Solo X is not anything at all like you're trying to say. The reason you blew a sub from clipping wasn't the low wattage, it was you putting out the dirtiest signal you could, thinking you were cool 😂😂

Need to demo some DJ billy E for sub reviews

What’s your box ported to?

Out of those 2 subs how do they rate against the sundown x12?

Can you do a test on the DB-SA305 15D2s O just bought 2 for my next build and would like to see some musical performance and what they can do in a burp situation.

@GTILOUD

4 ай бұрын

How did you like those subs

I'll like to see the deaf bonce 12 vs the American bass xmaxx 12

What was the box rise ohms on the db you did not show the meter on it

Will you please rate the subs on a 1-10 scale. Loudness, sq, lows and highs. And maybe even looks. I know there are variables, but that would kind of let us scale other subs off each other. And not on a curve. So a budget sub doesnt get extra points because it's a budget banger.. you're doing great work, and you'll soon be one of the biggest names in car audio. Keep testing on my man.

I would go with Deaf Bonce.

That Avatar is so Beasty !!! Oh man I am really a fan of Avatar now. Thanks Parker !!!

It was between these and the Sundown Xv3's and I'm glad I chose the Xv3's! Although I kinda wanted the DB, cuz not everyone runs them like Sundown. But I'm happy w my choice!

@UrAvgBasshead

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I know how that is. I was choosing between 4 zv6 18’s or 4 SVL 1847’s. Choose the Avatar. Been happy so far with my choice

@TheDoozie43

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was looking at the xv3s and went with a preorder for 2 12” v2 banhammers from EMF. 4” coil, 3k rms. Only $350 each at the time, but I’ve been waiting since May. I’m sure all are pretty similar at the end of the day.

@1ohmwrecker

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDoozie43 I was gonna upgrade to 4 inch coils cuz I never have, but like stated in this video, it's got its ups and downs. The 4 inch coil subs just eat power. Guy at EMF I don't really care for, so never been an option to me. But they seem ok🤷‍♂️

@ScramTek

2 жыл бұрын

@@UrAvgBasshead Having to decide between four 18” Zv6s and four SVL 1847s is a difficult choice, but a blessed one. Would love to be in that position!

@UrAvgBasshead

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScramTek thanks 🙏🏽

Ground zero next?

I have always loved your channel I look forward to New ones, I love in depth reviews on wide variety of subs so I hate to sound like a nit picker but You are still confusing xmax and excursion, Xmax is just how far the coil moves while windings still stay within the gap, XMECH is the amount of excursion it's capable of without reaching it's mechanical limits like say bottoming out. Xmax is a very deceiving number it doesn't really tell you much except the amount of linier excursion which is the windings staying 100% within the gap, 2 subs with exact same height coils and gap depth can have very very different xmax ratings just from top plate thickness but they'll both can have the same excursion. If anyone thinks I'm talking total nonsense please just Google it for a more in depth explanation before freaking out, keep up with the great content parker!✌️

If power was not an issue The apocalypse having more output could also be it has more cone area having a 3" coil vs the avatars 4"

@brianrich7828

8 ай бұрын

Same cone area. Cone has nothing to do with that. Unless you mean coil. The TI frame supports a 10” landing for the spider. Plenty of Xanax monsters use a Ti frame with 4” coils (Fi,Ascendant,B2,etc) . And they kill it.

Can I run the apocalypse on a 2000 watt crunch amp?

good bass rap song recommendations?

Both made by the same factory no...???

Damn those are babies compared to the zv6 in the background.

@jysoe1

Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see the Avatar SVL compared to it

@GTILOUD

4 ай бұрын

🙄

Ot videos like this that show me, someone new to big power subs, what is out there! So I say thank you! I can't wait to put my next system together! It is going to be silly!

different wiring configurations i.e. series versus parallel will result in a different BL

@RomaVilla

2 жыл бұрын

I was also wondering about that aswell

I have the SVU or Volcano version of this 15" sub... while its in a different category than the STU in terms of performance, they are built very similar. I would agree with others the orange Avatar subs are SQL for sure vs an all out SPL sub. I tuned to 33hz in 3.5cuft off a Smart 5k and it truly is something amazing. It just loves the lows to a point you cant help but laugh out loud, people hear it and are just like WTF.... There are plenty of $700~ subs that are louder, this thing just sounds so damn good I would take the trade off for SPL any day. However I don't compete cause there isn't shit here in AZ for competitions anymore but for a daily I would go the Avatar without question, they really are a good sub.

@braindead6450

2 жыл бұрын

i wouldn't mind hearing your set up!

@loaked3000

2 жыл бұрын

@@braindead6450 If your ever in the Phoenix, AZ area let me know I would be glad to demo it.

@marktolosa428

Жыл бұрын

Avatars stu's aren't sql there spl subs bro

@loaked3000

Жыл бұрын

@@marktolosa428 The SPL vs SQL thing is somewhat subjective with no exact defining parameters. These Avatars with a 4" coil, glass fiber cone, lower FS, puts them more towards an SQL, however they do have a low QTS... When I think of a SPL sub its going to have softer parts, higher FS, different coil, etc. Not saying you couldn't compete with these and do well, they are not what I would consider a dedicated competing SPL sub and are designed to be more musical. I wouldn't want to compete with them, not at their price range, much better options if you are looking to burp.

@aliikarma7822

Жыл бұрын

Would a smart 3k be enough to power a avatar STU 12 or is smart 5k better?

Xmax is rated different then what you think they are saying. Excursion limit and Xmax are not the same. The avatar I believe is more of a SoundQ sub seeing as it has a 4inch coil for better cone control and less overall "flex" in the driver. The Deaf Bonce are true SPL drivers all the way. They really don't have a lot of sonic accuracy where I'm guessing the Avatar will.

@jasx1485

Жыл бұрын

What

@brianrich7828

8 ай бұрын

The size of the coil has nothing to do with SQ. At all.

@mattadams7922

8 ай бұрын

@@brianrich7828 whatever next time state why as opposed to just making a statement with no information to back it up. Larger coils do actually assist with the things I listed which do improve SQ. So unless you have some magic retort with facts prolly wouldn't just make posts