I want to find full range speakers to beat the Dayton’s but haven’t found anything yet that wasn’t 2-3 times the price. Great content. Thanks!

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

They are great little drivers, well made and look great too!

this is gem of channels, hardly anyone provide such review and experience!

I really like the enclosures shown in this video.

@DIY-AUDIO

10 ай бұрын

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thank you! v useful, though I suspect the sound test differences are much more down to boxes than drivers...

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

Reckon so, not an awful lot difference in driver performance just looks!

Fun video, thanks for making it. Due to the fact no two enclosures were the same it's impossible to know what driver sounded best. Dayton Audio PS95 are easy to buy here in the US and cheaper.

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, yep agree. They are well built too and I have made a couple builds with them on the channel which sound great!

@Geoduck.

Жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO I've subscribed and look forward to viewing more of your well done videos. Also I did not mean my post as a negative.

@Geoduck.

Жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO I subscribed and look forward to viewing more of your builds. I meant no disrespect in my comment it was interesting to watch.

Very nice Reviews

@DIY-AUDIO

4 ай бұрын

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I would have liked to hear the Dayton with bass part in the first track too. I suspect the Mark Audio could be a bit cleaner with an enclosure with only one driver (the second one shown here will be acting as a passive radiator). At least on my headphones, the Dayton seemed the cleanest, the Mark Audio the best potential. The Aiyima sounded small, partially due to cabinet but also being a budget option. I'll probably try out the Mark Audio because I like the engineering decisions. Flatter cone profile and dedicated "tweeter" dustcap for extended and wider response.

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comments. I'm liking the MA more as it beds in!

Thanks for the test. I think the Markaudio has more bass in reality than in your test. When you disconnect one speaker, that speaker going to react in opposite phase, causing comb filtering.

@DIY-AUDIO

6 ай бұрын

You are likely correct, the Markaudio is a great little speaker. I've used it now in a number of builds and it offers great sound stage and value for such a small 7watt driver

Thanks for doing this test. I preferred the Daytons. They seemed to have an all around more balanced sound. Beautiful builds, btw. 👍🔊😊🎶

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Nick. I've used the Daytons in a couple recent builds and they are great value in my opinion.

@NickP333

Жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO Yeah, they definitely seem to be. I’m building a pair of folded Voigt pipes with a 8” Pioneer alnico drivers and compression horn tweeters from 1959. They’re in a pair of Pioneer cs-201’s from ‘59, but I feel I can really make the driver and tweeter sing in a better cabinet being run by a SET tube amp. Thanks for all the wonderful vids. 👍🎶🔊

It's really hard to compare speakers in different enclosures IMO. I've built a two different pair of cabinets for Dayton Reference RS100-4 4" full range drivers, the first of which were 12" tall bass reflex design. The other cabinets were 48" tall Folded Voigt Pipe. The small speakers sounded like small speakers and the Voigt pipe ones sounded much larger than they were.

@DIY-AUDIO

11 ай бұрын

👍

@BenHeien

Ай бұрын

Each speaker needs a specific enclosure to get the best sound out of it, so it’s actually impossible to compare speakers in the same enclosure and get any information about the drivers other than how they sound in that specific box. Use a sealed box that gives the driver a qts of .707 and then compare. If you want to just build 1 box, find what driver wants the biggest and build that. Then for testing the others you can use scrap wood placed inside the enclosure to take up the extra space. A good enclosure can make a crappy driver sound great, and a bad enclosure can make an incredibly high quality driver sound bad.

i have mark audio 10p the FR is not very great but mids are nice and not very detail , but lovlly with jazz n vocals , how can i improve it i went to the kit page but could not find anything, what dose your kit do ?

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Basically supposed to measure the parameters that the makers actually supply (but on. Individual basis and not generalisation). If you are really then into accurate speaker building then you can use these figures to calculate speaker cabinet size, porting etc to get the best from the driver. Depends on what you do.

mark audio very clear, sorry im beginner with hifi. could i add sub woofer?

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Hi Jeric, certainly could add a sub, a couple of my other builds on the channel use these smaller full range and a woofer!!

Thank you. I noticed many Britons use these "point source, Wideband speakers" in car audio (PSSOund comes to mind) with low low amplified power (especially in front-stage/a-pillar builds in sealed mini-boxes). What is your thought on this application? I would appreciate your insights.

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Hi, never thought to use them in a car system. May be worth you trying to find a forum and get some opinions from there!!

@TheGodofSEO

Жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO appreciate you

The AIYIMA sounded like it was stopped up and had a cold. Of course the box was smaller, how much stuffing did you have in that box? I've seen other comparisons where Markaduio stood head and shoulders above the rest but the Dayton Audio sounded pretty good as well. I'm about to build some small speakers with a pair of 3" Aurasound full range woofers, they have a large soft surround and aluminum cones. I'm real curious how they'll do.

@DIY-AUDIO

7 ай бұрын

The aiyima was tinny compared to the others, ive now made a couple builds with the chn-50 and think a. They look good, b. Sound great for a 3"driver and c. Represent the best value for money. Good luck with your build!!

@Gersberms

7 ай бұрын

​@DIY-AUDIO I got the same impression. I have thick cardboard tubes that I think will sound great. Not big though, 1.5 l volume just about. I will give it a lot of stuffing to remove all resonance since tubes suffer from that a lot. They are so stiff though that they will not vibrate. And because they are tubes, essentially no baffle.

@DIY-AUDIO Hi, could you please share your observations on directivity in heights? Which of them have best performance OFF axis in high frequencies? Which would be your choice for upper mid and tweeter application?

@DIY-AUDIO

2 ай бұрын

They are all free range so have only use as such. My personal preference across all frequencies (after a really good run in) are the Markaudio ones. I've built a couple sets of speakers with them and the soundstage is amazing for such a low powered driver.

@wodzimierzwohn114

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for reply. From what I see you have been using aluminum cone Markaudio, correct? Do you have any experience with Markaudio PLUVIA-7PHD, that has paper cone? I personally never liked not aluminum nor polypropylene cones sound

By the time the sound has gone into your mic then compressed by KZread and played on my pc speakers there's not much valid judgement can be made. Maybe if the drivers were fitted into an identical enclosure then listeneed to? Or maybe a frequency / amplitude graph of the sound? What is your opinion on the best driver, as you listened to them all in person?

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Al, thanks for your feedback. The mic is set to highest quality it will go but, as you say everything is compressed. I find listening on my headphones is better! An way, if you like the highs, the 7w markaudio is nice and a very tight sound. But, I reckon with a large box, even the cheap AIYIMA could sound good for the average listener. It's just if you like to have a good finish on your speakers, the Dayton or markaudio may be the way to go as overall, there isn't a lot to my ears difference!!

@alheeley

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO just completed a small bookshelf speaker build with the ps95's, they are quite precise but a little bit lacking in bass for me. It got better when I added a port to the enclosure but I see the DaytonAudios spec has the higher bass freq fall-off compared to the other two.

@grandpixel

Жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO the problem is not the mic or compression, nor is the solution to listen on headphones or high end gear... point is it's impossible to hear the characteristics of a speaker through other speakers

Quite happy with my Daytons.

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

Just put them in a boombox Build and they sound great!

@MetalHippie83

6 ай бұрын

​@@DIY-AUDIOhow loud can the ps95 get? If i use them as tweeters with 2 5 inch subwoofers would they be able to keep up?

Anyone tried putting a dayton fullrange into a shallow waveguide??

It would really help if you’d edit back to back the same passage/part of a song so we can actually compare them. When the bass drops out of the song as you switch to the next speaker it’s hard to evaluate.

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

I'll take that on board for any future reviews!

Hi Just Listened to the Music and to my Ears I Would go for.... 1st Markaudio CHN-50 2nd The Dayton and 3rd Aiyima..I Found the Markaudio was a lot more cleaner and the Bass was just right for me...

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

The mark audio seems to get better and better the more hours it's run!!

@KitaristChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO Can you please post another video and maybe playing some rock music. Thanks :)

MARKAUDIO CHN-50 is the best..

I want to use one of those as a car midrange, i need something smooth, non fatiguing and good resolution, will thise work?

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

I don't know how well they would work in a car to be honest!! May be better of with something specifically made for motor vehicles

@elviscaragea4433

Жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO how is the sound

I've used the ps95 and really like it!

@DIY-AUDIO

9 ай бұрын

Its great for a small driver and looks good too!!

The mark audio bring low mid (300-1k approx maybe slightly lower) to the forefront, with another focal point around 5-8k & seem to give overall more mid detail than the others. The Dayton is fairly flat, but gradually dropping 3-5 dB from 1k downward, the aniyma sounds like low mids are down 5+ dB fragile. Do you adjust the microphone height, to match the centre of the driver, and can you please repeat the same portions of the song for each driver, preferably with acoustic section then bass sections in 2 parts = scene 1 music low bass content , speaker A, B, C ... scene 2 bass content Speaker A, B, C just my interpretation, in an ideal world, the speaker box would be designed & tuned (eg winisd) for each speaker, to give the posable low-end responce. But hey I appreciate you going to the effort to produce the videos, & too many keyboard warriors preach & pick on good people like yourself, over trivial insignificant things, I don't see them contributing for the greater good. Thank you again

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Do the two chn50’s share the same air volume?

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they do but only one driver was being used in the test!

@mattfranklin3622

2 жыл бұрын

But the lower one even though not connected will still be excited by the one that is. Not that it really matters but it will add to the bass. 👍

The Mark Audio had more low end but the high end sounded better on the Daytons. The other ones sounded like trash. In the end I would go with the Daytons and I love bass.

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, appreciate your comments!

Is twin drover full range sound better than only 1 driver per speaker?

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

And there the debate begins😂😂

@wilsentwins

Жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO 😂 its a serious question sir. Newbies try to build my first diy

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

@@wilsentwins if you are just about to build your first speakers, imo you can't go too wrong with a single full range driver unless you have confidence and the tools to build a traditional 2way unit with a crossover.

All 3 of them need some bass reinforcement. The MA 50 is operating into a box that is double volume because one driver is disconnected.

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, all would benefit in my opinion from more bass!

Need to actually hear some vocals but as of what you played I like the Daytons

@DIY-AUDIO

10 ай бұрын

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Anybody have any experience with any of Tang Band's 3" full range drivers? I have a Hi-Fi application coming up that's requiring 3" drivers, and sound quality is more important than money here, to a point, of course.. 😏

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Have had a few requests to do a build and review on these, hopefully later in the year I will get one done as I've heard they are good.

@davelowets

Жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO I've used T.B. drivers before, and they're VERY good. I just have ZERO experience with their 3" line of drivers.

Maybe use Tidal hifi Master as a source to really see how well they shine. Also a response curve measurement would be nice and I honestly feel like this full rage is missing elements.

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

Would love to use it but have to use royalty free music on KZread. Will take your point of a response curve into account next time!

II this size I like very much Dayton Audio PC83-8 and the copper ring over the pole it has + the material of that cone. In a very affordable price in my opinion. The Mark Audio has the better sound quality (my taste) Best clarity and wins Dayton Audio "por una cabessa". The sound from Aiyima sound "blurry" to me, in comparison.

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Have just use the Dayton in a Boombox Build (Full Build on the channel) no sound test but they do sound great with the Dayton woofer!

@gamiwv

Жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO with Dayton Audio DC250-8 10" Classic Woofer or with (more expensive) Dayton Audio RS225-8 8" Reference Woofer ?

Why the weight on the amp? Like you can hear a difference...

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

Really shiny surface and the weight of the leads make it slide backwards and tilt upwards so this just stops it moving!!

@J2I3H

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO haha ok, I understand. I thought it was another 'audiophile myth' 😋

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

@@J2I3H haha not that I know of😂

@RennieAsh

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO There are actually expensive "door stoppers" you can buy that supposedly improve the sound by damping the case and removing stray magnetic fields etc. They make them for speakers too lol.

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

@@RennieAsh really? Whatever next!?

Is a bad comparision, first the speaker have a diferent dimensions and power. The cabinets is very diferent. Those aspects make great diference.

@DIY-AUDIO

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I only had what I had to work with. If you check out my latest comparable of AIYIMA 4" v Markaudio, they are in the same sized units. Hopefully giving a more accurate comparison!

Sir ineed 2 pices Mid range speaker 4 ohms 80 Watts u have I'm Qatar working sir mi from India Kerala

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Drivers are in links in description of video. 4ohm and 8ohm on Aiyma, 8ohm DA and MA but nothing at 80w. Delivery worldwide

Mark Audio seemed more bassier than the Dayton, Aiyima were seemed good if accompanied with subwoofer, but pc desk Mark audio sounded the best for me on the Headphones.

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

👍

for me the Daytons stand out as the clear winner!

@DIY-AUDIO

6 ай бұрын

A little better on the trebles, after running in the Markaudio, I find they are a more mellow driver for jazz, classical etx

Hola, así como los presentas, MarkAudio es el que se escucha mejor, sonido más abierto, claro, balanceado. Luego, el Dayton. Aiyima se escuchó muy opaco.

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Si, prefiero tanto el Markaudio como el Dayton

Tang band W3-2141 are the best

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

If you have the extra cash then I wouldn't not believe you. But the Tang bands are nearly double the price of the Daytons which are the most expensive in this test.

@namelessmusik4345

Жыл бұрын

@@DIY-AUDIO Thats a good point.

1st track dance/base: Best Markaudio - Dayton - AIYIMA - worst. 2nd french/rhytmic accordion: Best - Dayton - Markaudio - AIYIMA - worst 3rd blues guitar/rocknroll: Best - AIYIMA, Makraudio/Dayton - worse tie Markaudio needs to be normalized (noticeably louder), probably most powerful, can make micro party ) but as you see they are all limited in genre, AIYIMA no lows. Listened on AKG monitor headphones somewhat match to such kind of presentation (with bandwitdth limitations) so hope impressions may be accurate.

@DIY-AUDIO

3 ай бұрын

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Idk they all sound the same to me.

Different speaker volume cannot comment

@DIY-AUDIO

8 ай бұрын

Speaker volume was in fact the same but, sensitivity of the drivers make it sound as though it wasnt!!

Thanks. It is a pity that you do not have a normal amplifier and microphone. The idea is good, but the execution is not. Спасибо. Жаль, что у вас нет нормального усилителя и микрофона. Замысел хороший, а реализация нет.

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

I await seeing yours!

AIYIMA not a contender, the other two being a close call….I like Markaudio better.

@DIY-AUDIO

7 ай бұрын

After having used the chn-50 in a number of builds, i have to agree with you!!

Как по мне звук у всех этих новодельных динамиков мёртвый.. В сравнении с теми же винтажными Fostex.. Design👍

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Fostex would be lovely but considerably more expensive

Aiyima is way too tin. For me Daton PS95-8 is clear winner

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Dayton is a lovely little driver. Have now made a couple builds with it and very impressive for such a small driver

MarkAudio: too harsh, dull Dayton: performs well Aiyima: in the same box as Dayton should performs much better

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

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Use REW and provide measurements, otherwise all these video is useless.

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

👍

Markaudio sounds better

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Sounds even better when it's been run in. Currently building a new speaker for it. Will be on the Channel in a couple of weeks!

Aiyima 👎

@DIY-AUDIO

Жыл бұрын

Markaudio and Dayton worth the extra!!