Davvy's D&D 5e Cleric Guide

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0:27 - General
1:40 - Clerics and Healing
3:39 - Knowledge Domain
4:35 - Life Domain
5:32 - Light Domain
6:19 - Nature Domain
7:09 - Tempest Domain
7:43 - Trickery Domain
8:30 - War Domain
9:49 - Arcane Domain
10:50 - Forge Domain
11:35 - Grave Domain
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  • @Salted_Fysh
    @Salted_Fysh5 жыл бұрын

    A Grave Cleric, a Grave Cleric and a Grave Cleric meet in a pub. The DM leaves the table.

  • @cavendor5286

    @cavendor5286

    5 жыл бұрын

    XD

  • @vasudean

    @vasudean

    4 жыл бұрын

    I so see that. That would just be hilarious.

  • @elgatochurro

    @elgatochurro

    4 жыл бұрын

    DM comes back with a Catoplebas, sits down and says calmly "one of you fuckers is dying tonight"

  • @leonardodehammer8158

    @leonardodehammer8158

    4 жыл бұрын

    elgatochurro The Players in unison: That’s what you think.

  • @greatstoryteller9459

    @greatstoryteller9459

    4 жыл бұрын

    A jar of magic enters the bar too. And that jar has death ward and can teleport that jar into another reality which destroys it. That's more then 100 feat. Think about it.

  • @thereprehensible435
    @thereprehensible4355 жыл бұрын

    *"Give a man fire and he'll be warm for a day; light a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life."* Best quote ever.

  • @Sbevewagon4493

    @Sbevewagon4493

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s also true (technically)

  • @MrUmakemelaff

    @MrUmakemelaff

    4 жыл бұрын

    Caleb has left the chat.

  • @terry_the_terrible

    @terry_the_terrible

    4 жыл бұрын

    GNU Sir Terry Pratchett.

  • @LongToungedLiar

    @LongToungedLiar

    4 жыл бұрын

    In case you didn't know, that's a quote by Sir Terry Pratchett.

  • @r.0.b.429

    @r.0.b.429

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eyyy! I got you to 1k likes! Let’s go for 2!

  • @reyntime8735
    @reyntime87354 жыл бұрын

    “Clerics are healers. Life Clerics have the best healing magic, and Tempest Cleric realizes that wounds can’t be made by annihilating any threats prematurely.” -Our DM

  • @essejay7952

    @essejay7952

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your DM is a genius and he should write a book

  • @quendi5557

    @quendi5557

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well said.

  • @WinterPains

    @WinterPains

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Grave Clerics realize the best way to heal is when the person who needs it is already unconscious and bleeding out.

  • @yikesidfk4710

    @yikesidfk4710

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WinterPains 😱

  • @fresh9530
    @fresh95304 жыл бұрын

    fun fact: light clerics have access to fireball, have fun with this

  • @azmonbored3837

    @azmonbored3837

    3 жыл бұрын

    I played in a one shot as a 10 year old firbolg cleric who casted fireball on a group of enemies without hurting npcs it was fun it helped the sorcerer make half the enemies fall asleep.

  • @lolbots686

    @lolbots686

    3 жыл бұрын

    i was unkillable

  • @lasonris8934

    @lasonris8934

    2 жыл бұрын

    I speak for the Wildfire Druid when I say this We Declare War

  • @thedootlord

    @thedootlord

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lasonris8934 on clerics or on WOTC?

  • @lasonris8934

    @lasonris8934

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thedootlord clerics, for the fireball!!!!

  • @hydrastuff8029
    @hydrastuff80295 жыл бұрын

    Grave Domain- You will never die as long as I am conscious. Forge Domain- You will never be hit as long as I am conscious Trickery Domain- You will never be seen as long as I am conscious

  • @thomastakesatollforthedark2231

    @thomastakesatollforthedark2231

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dm- with your powers combined i am out of here!!!

  • @gingermcgingin1733

    @gingermcgingin1733

    4 жыл бұрын

    War Domain- You will never miss as long as I'm conscious

  • @kannonball5789

    @kannonball5789

    4 жыл бұрын

    Light Domain- Everything burns as long as I am conscious.

  • @reddragonminecraftmodsandm4366

    @reddragonminecraftmodsandm4366

    4 жыл бұрын

    Life Domain - The Grave Cleric will never be useful as long as long as I am conscious.

  • @Obsi399

    @Obsi399

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tempest cleric - I will smite as long as I am conscious

  • @Thalanox
    @Thalanox6 жыл бұрын

    Wow. You could make an entire party of nothing but Clerics, and cover all the bases extremely well.

  • @GeninGeo

    @GeninGeo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Then you could actually have that 'my god' arguement every other encounter and people wont cry cause they not gonna try roleplay it.

  • @Aulumos42

    @Aulumos42

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@patheronaetherson2860 Knock down Tiamat's door and force her to build a toilet she can stick her heads in.

  • @bru9383

    @bru9383

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Milan Marković And now you know how to play cleric. Amen.

  • @nicktheghostboy

    @nicktheghostboy

    2 жыл бұрын

    imagine the whole party then getting into a bar fight or something about who's god is the best/the one you should worship

  • @james739123

    @james739123

    2 жыл бұрын

    We shall call ourselves "The A-men"

  • @TheMrBonzz
    @TheMrBonzz4 жыл бұрын

    I like how all the portrait in Grave Domain Clerics looks grim and edgy but then there's cadeuces, pink hair hippie Furbolg tea lover that seems to be high most of the time.

  • @harley_o_thor
    @harley_o_thor5 жыл бұрын

    you forgot to mention the part of the Grave domain cleric that their 30 foot spare the dying ALSO can be cast as a bonus action.

  • @zackbop9045

    @zackbop9045

    5 жыл бұрын

    Harley Thor ...what..,

  • @sinbadsolomon8508

    @sinbadsolomon8508

    5 жыл бұрын

    Zack Lag The reaction of every DM on their first encounter with a Grave Cleric player.

  • @theonethathungers5552

    @theonethathungers5552

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had 4 new players to play with. I took a grave cleric because my dm doesn’t care how much experience you have, you have a brain.

  • @dannynorth6746

    @dannynorth6746

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zackbop9045 yep and I have had a dm actually try to kill my grave cleric.

  • @nicholas6836

    @nicholas6836

    3 жыл бұрын

    @comfrey kid nah, peace domain is a good support class but it’s not nearly as good at keeping the party alive as the grave domain.

  • @colinbunn6066
    @colinbunn60665 жыл бұрын

    Roses are red Wizards make Davvy hysteric Almost as much as *an alive Grave Cleric*

  • @sarpgunes4362

    @sarpgunes4362

    5 жыл бұрын

    I love it.

  • @deadjuice1880

    @deadjuice1880

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ohhhh snap!

  • @remingtonwright6796

    @remingtonwright6796

    4 жыл бұрын

    But not as much as the fey

  • @thisrandomdude2880
    @thisrandomdude28805 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, the class that can just go: DM: "Your character receives 10 damge, you die" Cleric: "No" DM: "What? Umm but what abou-" Cleric: "No" DM: "But I-" Cleric: " *_I said no you heathen is that clear?_* " DM: "Ok..."

  • @anon2447

    @anon2447

    3 жыл бұрын

    not Dnd, but mage the awakening Moros with 5 dots in the death arcanum is like, ohh i died?? great i get an excuse to miss work for 2 weeks!!

  • @t2av159

    @t2av159

    3 жыл бұрын

    Communist

  • @skittlesilly

    @skittlesilly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also applies to half orcs

  • @birdthenerd2163

    @birdthenerd2163

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@t2av159 their name clearly says they are a socialist

  • @gaelmendez2798

    @gaelmendez2798

    Ай бұрын

    I’m imagining that Line from the dawn of the planet of the apes wear ceaser said no

  • @Mare_Man
    @Mare_Man4 жыл бұрын

    Forge Cleric Dwarf: The dwarfiest of all dwarves

  • @patheronaetherson2860

    @patheronaetherson2860

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love the Forge Domain for Dwarves! It just feels like it was tailored to them specifically, considering they can use warhammers (and battleaxes) in addition to the normal simple weapons available to the Forge Domain

  • @Silverwind87

    @Silverwind87

    3 жыл бұрын

    MOLTEN COOOORE!

  • @meganobgutzkraka2398
    @meganobgutzkraka23985 жыл бұрын

    IN THE NAME OF GOD! IN THE NAME OF GOD! IN THE NAME OF GOD WE GO TO *HEAAAAAAAAAAAAVEEEEEEEN!*

  • @giovannialoisio4523

    @giovannialoisio4523

    5 жыл бұрын

    MAAATER SIN, THE NAME OF GOD, IN NIGHTS OF WAAAR AND FIIIIIIRE

  • @thechosenfundead6626

    @thechosenfundead6626

    5 жыл бұрын

    when u make a werewolf - cleric *POWERWOLF INTENSIFIES*

  • @francescobisighin2495

    @francescobisighin2495

    5 жыл бұрын

    CRUSADE????

  • @giovannialoisio4523

    @giovannialoisio4523

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@francescobisighin2495 YES BROTHER! CRUSADE!

  • @francescobisighin2495

    @francescobisighin2495

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@giovannialoisio4523 CRUSADE!!!!! DEUS VULT FOR EVERYONE

  • @dylansewell9286
    @dylansewell92866 жыл бұрын

    The gods demand you review the other domains in a follow up video, do not upset the gods.

  • @DavvyChappy

    @DavvyChappy

    6 жыл бұрын

    The gods can kiss my almighty ass.

  • @ashleymacallister432

    @ashleymacallister432

    5 жыл бұрын

    Zeal cleric ftw

  • @marcus4046

    @marcus4046

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DavvyChappy Ah I see someone is using vicious mockery.

  • @nihilistcoomergang7046

    @nihilistcoomergang7046

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavvyChappy that should also be on a shirt. You have two great merch ideas, this one, and “ Justice does not get the flu “ from the paladin guide

  • @arrow-tv9217

    @arrow-tv9217

    4 жыл бұрын

    Half of the replies are to Dave rip-

  • @CyberChaosV2
    @CyberChaosV25 жыл бұрын

    I remember a group i was in, someone wanted to be a fighting cleric but the rest of the party was like “we need a healer and youre the only one that fits the bill.” Meanwhile im sitting there with my warlock looking over different patrons and i stumbled onto the celestial patron. Long story short, his cleric kept my warlock practically untouched whilst i kept healing him... the rest of the party went through 2-3 characters due to lack of thinking. Thus, thug cleric team was born, with a warlock who has no scriptures to dictate their actions and a cleric that prefers to calmly beat the sin out of others.

  • @Amanoob105
    @Amanoob1055 жыл бұрын

    Good news Davvy! In the time since you made this the cleric no longer has 15 domains. It's now up to 18. That's more than any other class. *Especially the wizard*.

  • @SladePate

    @SladePate

    5 жыл бұрын

    Amanoob105 where did the new ones come from? Asking cause I want to play a cleric and was set on the Zeal Domain but if there is something even better I might choose it.

  • @Amanoob105

    @Amanoob105

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SladePate I'm not all the clear on the "where", little new to the game. So their from looking up the game on a wiki while I track down places to get the books (there's one that at least has a full list of them, but for copyright reasons can't go into detain on them so more searching will be needed once you at least have the name). dnd5e.fandom.com/wiki/Cleric I am at least sure that none of the ones I found are homebrew though. Most likley, I would guess, a few of the newest are on one of the AUs.

  • @Redlinkz1235

    @Redlinkz1235

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pathetic check faith's of the forgotten realms which adds 50+ Subclass's for cleric and paladin as well as 100+ spells and 30+ magic items

  • @wlieb7017

    @wlieb7017

    3 жыл бұрын

    21 now im pretty sure

  • @DragonaxFilms
    @DragonaxFilms5 жыл бұрын

    Life domain: keep people from dying Grave domain: keep people from dying and also make the DM angry

  • @Nyrufa
    @Nyrufa5 жыл бұрын

    Just noticed that the Grave Domain (which is supposed to be about accepting death as a natural part of life) has abilities specifically designed to ward off death!

  • @jenniferjump9211

    @jenniferjump9211

    5 жыл бұрын

    it's meant to be everyone has a time to die, and they prevent people from dying too early/send those to their graves that have overextended their stay in life

  • @daiamonto2517

    @daiamonto2517

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah i was facing its ideology the same way, the class is intended to preach about the need of death and yet its prevent death.

  • @Gabdube

    @Gabdube

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jenniferjump9211 That justification for the Grave Cleric makes no deterministic sense. If it was somehow determined that it "wasn't their time to die", then they would not have been dying at that moment in the first place and there would not be a need to supernaturally prevent their death in the first place. I'd play a grave cleric in the same way I'd play a good-aligned lich: making the world better through unnatural means, because nature isn't fair and justice needs to be artificially created in order to exist. A sort of "transhumanist" outlook aimed at reducing the amount of suffering in the world by improving Life, doing better than mere nature.

  • @tylerdurham6091

    @tylerdurham6091

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Gabdube or you could look at it this way: if it was supposed to be their time to die your god wouldn't have put a grave cleric next to them.

  • @Gabdube

    @Gabdube

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@tylerdurham6091 Or the gods would have arranged events so as to not require a grave cleric in the first place. Like, if your god has the power to alter causality in a way that makes a grave cleric be right there to conveniently save you from death, then they could also just alter causality to make you not even need one in the first place. I get that this is just a way to put a cool concept into the game, but it still doesn't make as much sense as a Life cleric who is there to explicitly prevent you from dying regardless of whether that death was "supposed to happen" or not.

  • @sananaryon4061
    @sananaryon40615 жыл бұрын

    Everytime I talk with new players, I describe Clerics as being able to do everything the other classes can do, plus healing.

  • @magiv4205
    @magiv42055 жыл бұрын

    "Remember, kids: give a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. SET a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." I'm crying

  • @Sam-kv2ny

    @Sam-kv2ny

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's a Tolkien quote.

  • @magiv4205

    @magiv4205

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Sam-kv2ny well, I'm pretty sure that's not the DIRECT quote XD

  • @Bibitybopitybacon

    @Bibitybopitybacon

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's a Terry Pratchet quote

  • @davidc4983

    @davidc4983

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tao of pratchett, words which are lived by Chicago's only openly practicing wizard

  • @darkmoon2503
    @darkmoon25034 жыл бұрын

    Grave Domain is my favorite. It actually gets you thinking about death as a natural thing, and even a good thing at times, instead of something to always fear.

  • @That80sGuy1972
    @That80sGuy19724 жыл бұрын

    Life long AD&D player: There is no way a party constituted of any variety of any one class can be diverse enough to be a successfully adventuring party. AD&D 5th Ed Clerics: Hold our beers.

  • @dali3839

    @dali3839

    2 жыл бұрын

    No no, Hold our W I N E

  • @That80sGuy1972

    @That80sGuy1972

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dali3839 Well, that depends upon the cleric... Dwarves would be ales and beers. If memory serves, there is an ale made from a type of mushrooms that Gnomes consume. Well, 5th Ed might have phased that one out. ;)

  • @annasolovyeva1013

    @annasolovyeva1013

    2 жыл бұрын

    5e bards also do the trick.

  • @That80sGuy1972

    @That80sGuy1972

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@annasolovyeva1013 Fair enough. 🙂

  • @wolfking3463
    @wolfking34636 жыл бұрын

    I played a life cleric once that was dex baised and caused the dm to rage quit because I wouldn't let myself die (without knowing I needed to for the storyline) and went as sole survivor

  • @onemisterfranko

    @onemisterfranko

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's a dm issue, they should have adjusted the story around what your doing unless they want to inform you before hand, also what character is going to just try and get themselves killed.

  • @wolfking3463

    @wolfking3463

    6 жыл бұрын

    onemisterfranko his problem was it was his first time dming and he had made the opponents really strong but he was crit failing a lot on me and I was criting I'm not saying he was right I'm saying he had no experience

  • @onemisterfranko

    @onemisterfranko

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully he didn't quit it was a learning game, but it's a tricky balance behind the screen. I'm getting into it myself and it's a lot of give and take some nights it's best to dial it back because as DM you can control that, it can't be a me vs them mentality. It's cooperative storytelling.

  • @qwertyb18

    @qwertyb18

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your DM is a baby

  • @JasperForge

    @JasperForge

    5 жыл бұрын

    No Dm should make a story where a PC has to die for the story to continue

  • @TripleBarrel06
    @TripleBarrel064 жыл бұрын

    Light Domain Cleric: "If only I could be so grossly incandescent" the class.

  • @anon2447

    @anon2447

    3 жыл бұрын

    excuse me, we prefer the term faboulously flamboyant, thank you

  • @alecmullaney7957

    @alecmullaney7957

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bold words for someone in range of Inflict Wounds

  • @alicebrown6215
    @alicebrown62156 жыл бұрын

    I, for one, enjoy playing life domain clerics, being able to throw out the juicy, juicy healing spells while I crush heretic skulls with my mace, while also keeping my squishy teammates safe.

  • @CryptidCritter
    @CryptidCritter4 жыл бұрын

    Davvy: "The Trickery domain is really not suppose to be the stabby type." Me: *Looks over at Jester, who's smashing people in the face with giant lollipops* ...Yeah, you're right: they were meant to smash, not stab xD

  • @catfoodfood6169

    @catfoodfood6169

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought bards where supposed to smash though

  • @CryptidCritter

    @CryptidCritter

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@catfoodfood6169 Lol, one way to smash. Just seduce the enemy into submission xDDD Though Jester's is more of the....breaking bones kind of smashing xDDD

  • @catfoodfood6169

    @catfoodfood6169

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@CryptidCritter you should make a rouge monk multiclass where unlike a rouge who uses weapons sneak up on people and like dropkick them

  • @CryptidCritter

    @CryptidCritter

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@catfoodfood6169 Nice~ I feel like most classes can gain a good benefit from multiclassing into rogue. I have a Gloom Stalker Ranger and Phantom Rogue multiclass character who happens to have a bit higher strength and consitutiin than your average rogue ranger.... And he hits HARD in his first round (which he usually goes first in initiative.) I usually can get a single enemy down pretty low within those first few attacks.

  • @catfoodfood6169

    @catfoodfood6169

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@CryptidCritter yikes

  • @peterp.9327
    @peterp.93276 жыл бұрын

    I tried playing a grave domain cleric in toa to keep my party alive. He failed a jump in his first real dungeon and fell in a 5ft deep pit, and was unceremoniously ripped apart by spiders in the surprise round.

  • @00784865
    @007848656 жыл бұрын

    Tempest cleric is so much fun.One of the party memebers told me that clerics are heallbots to wich i say:I heall by making sure everyone is dead so they cant hurt you.

  • @AugustoEL

    @AugustoEL

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well if there is nothing trying to kill you there is no need for healing . So yeah you are right

  • @tacitabarrera

    @tacitabarrera

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm playing a tempest cleric right now in the Lost Mine of Phandelver just blowing bandits up with guiding bolt and thunderwave. No one has needed healing yet lol

  • @anon2447

    @anon2447

    5 жыл бұрын

    i am the opposite situation have a friend that looooves big damage number and everytime we play any game with classes he bashes me for playing a tank instead of something that deals biggy damage numbers, then he goes to the front line as a squishy, character, dies, gets pissed off at me and yells that he wouldn't have died if i did enough damage to which i always answer "dead people don't do damage".

  • @user-yy7tw9hv9n

    @user-yy7tw9hv9n

    5 жыл бұрын

    @sum body And making some medium rare bandits with fireball

  • @NothingToSeeHere-po5ci

    @NothingToSeeHere-po5ci

    5 жыл бұрын

    Death is the best cc.

  • @spambaconeggspamspam
    @spambaconeggspamspam5 жыл бұрын

    When your DM starts targetting your Grave Cleric. Remember that Death Ward is a spell!

  • @SpectralKnight

    @SpectralKnight

    5 жыл бұрын

    So is power word kill and circle of death :)

  • @Dramoklos

    @Dramoklos

    5 жыл бұрын

    Counterspell and dispel magic

  • @patheronaetherson2860

    @patheronaetherson2860

    4 жыл бұрын

    Death Ward is actually a Domain Spell for Grave domain, so starting at 7th level you always have it prepared for free

  • @ShockedLogic
    @ShockedLogic5 жыл бұрын

    Been playing a Trickery Domain cleric for about a year now in a campaign, gotta say, it's an absolute blast. The Channel Divinity in incredible with the right spells. It's so much fun to send it into a room of enemies, who, when they realize it's just an illusion, ignore it, only for it to start raining spells upon them. Taking a dip into Druid is also a great idea, since it gives you more spells to choose from (Thunderwave is great with situation above.) And getting wildshape is amazing, as i can effectively be my own animal companion for a time, and while i wont be able to cast spells out of the duplicate, they do grant me advantage on mauling my enemies as a bear if we're both next to the target. After playing it, it really opens up your eyes to how a lot of the internet's perception of some classes really is entirely from a combat point of view with little room for creative uses of powers.

  • @worthasandwich
    @worthasandwich4 жыл бұрын

    If your Tempest Cleric ever gets a Wand of Lightning Bolts may the gods help you all...

  • @yalcninal1168

    @yalcninal1168

    2 жыл бұрын

    Except yours

  • @JamesSamson487
    @JamesSamson4876 жыл бұрын

    Someone might want to mention that Critical Role just gained a Grave Cleric in Mr Clay. If this video is anything to go by, Matt’s gonna have a hard time.

  • @rosenrot234

    @rosenrot234

    6 жыл бұрын

    the softest Goth. Taliesin is clearly a qualified Executive Goth

  • @dren5810

    @dren5810

    6 жыл бұрын

    I love the spin he put on his cleric as well. Less of a zealot and more a middle man between the living and the dead. A guardian that guides lost souls.

  • @argr4sh

    @argr4sh

    6 жыл бұрын

    And Yasha, is NEVER going to die now, since she's a zealot with a grave cleric by her side.

  • @DeneeHughes

    @DeneeHughes

    5 жыл бұрын

    Caduceus is amazing.

  • @thanotosomega

    @thanotosomega

    5 жыл бұрын

    Given that the player's last character dying was a huge shock it was probably intentionally done to avoid other players's stories being disrupted, as well as allow the story of Molly to be concluded,

  • @FyreMagyk67
    @FyreMagyk675 жыл бұрын

    15, huh? Maybe we should take a look at the "Faiths of the Forgotten Realms" released on DMs Guild, which ADDS 50 NEW CLERIC DOMAINS (as well as 50 new Paladin oaths and a few archetypes for druids and rangers).

  • @tatefranklin4761

    @tatefranklin4761

    5 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap........ I have a lot more to read.

  • @rodrikforrester6989

    @rodrikforrester6989

    5 жыл бұрын

    What the fuck?

  • @hunterowl1756

    @hunterowl1756

    5 жыл бұрын

    See you all in a year

  • @kuroganekaze

    @kuroganekaze

    5 жыл бұрын

    Uuuuh. Can I get a link to that?

  • @The73MPL4R

    @The73MPL4R

    5 жыл бұрын

    This video would be hours long if he talked about all of those

  • @dabbingperson9236
    @dabbingperson92364 жыл бұрын

    Cleric: “I’mma just gonna praise Jesus now” Knowledge: Big brain time Life: Healbots where u at? Light: Blinding bitches forever Nature: A Druid but not really Tempest: LIGHTNINGBOLT Trickery: Illusion wizard but better War: Damn he stronk Arcana: MORE MAGIC Forge: I guess you’re Thorbjörn now Grave: Death is natural, you shouldn’t hate it

  • @westonhudiburgh5786
    @westonhudiburgh57864 жыл бұрын

    Been playing a Trickery Cleric, so fun, especially when I out-rogued our party’s rogue for trying to steal from me then to proceed to steal from him successfully lol

  • @FafliXx
    @FafliXx5 жыл бұрын

    People complain about not having a healer on your party... We had the opposite problem. We were a party of 5, with 4 healers... Paladin, Life Cleric, Bard, Warlock, and Rouge. Paladin and Rouge stand in the front, and both of them barely get hit in the first place with a 19 AC Paladin with the Protection fighting style, and the Rouge being, well, a Rouge. Also the Rouge got Shield of Faith from the Paladin. So, it turns out D&D really isn't balanced around this much healing. No fights our DM could reasonably throw at us came even close to being challenging. We just facetanked everything. Even if someone got crit and dropped to 0 HP, with 3 other healers there was no chance they stayed down for even a turn. And with the Bard duel wielding crossbows with the crossbow feat, and Paladin + Rouge standing next to each other being a really nasty combo, even big single target enemies were never a problem. And AoE was handled well by our Warlock and Bard as well. It got so bad our Cleric switched characters and plays a Fighter now. Who is constantly at the frontline and almost dying all the time.

  • @brianevans9719

    @brianevans9719

    5 жыл бұрын

    sorry for being that guy but the class is spelled ROGUE

  • @Pantjay

    @Pantjay

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is actually what traps and multiple encounters a day are for. Spell slots are limited so the way he should have played it was whittling you guys down with multiple encounters as opposed to hey giant fight who wins? Groups specifically built to drag one or two members of the party away are good too, forcing out healing word as opposed to cure wounds is good. something that reduces max hp is good. I can think of multiple ways to deal with this. I am now going to go right an encounter that my party will be annoyed at me for XD

  • @ryw00d

    @ryw00d

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pantjay and uhh necrotic damage

  • @Dragonspassage

    @Dragonspassage

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your supposed to have around 6 encounters a day. Towards the end of that the final boss style encounter you should have almost no slots left to heal with.

  • @themalachai6801

    @themalachai6801

    5 жыл бұрын

    sum body if you attack with a one handed weapon (a hand crossbow) you can make an attack with a hand crossbow as a bonus attack. Therefore dual wielding crossbows

  • @Marzy99
    @Marzy996 жыл бұрын

    I've been playing for a while but never bothered reading up on clerics cause they looked boring, this has changed my mind for sure

  • @elgatochurro

    @elgatochurro

    6 жыл бұрын

    KryptoniicWolf hater

  • @angeryboi873

    @angeryboi873

    6 жыл бұрын

    You filthy Religion't!

  • @kannonball5789

    @kannonball5789

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@elgatochurro He just said he changed his mind.

  • @skyarcher04
    @skyarcher046 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to mention that death clerics have the ability to give a target vulnerability. Pair that with something under the hold person spell, something that can be accomplished by lvl 3, and you have a guaranteed melee crit with vulnerability. Have a Pali or rogue make the attack and honestly I don't know what lives that.

  • @TheRedAzuki

    @TheRedAzuki

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's actually Grave Domain. But yeah.

  • @aaronnunavabizniz199

    @aaronnunavabizniz199

    6 жыл бұрын

    If you multiclass sorcerer you can quicken inflict wounds.

  • @Birbucifer

    @Birbucifer

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheRedAzuki Yea, thats what he basically said

  • @TheRedAzuki

    @TheRedAzuki

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Death Domain is a completely different domain that's mainly for the DM to create evil Clerics, like they can ignore resistances to Necrotic damage

  • @Birbucifer

    @Birbucifer

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheRedAzuki yea but to be fair they’re both basically death domains thematically

  • @silverdragon7385
    @silverdragon73854 жыл бұрын

    Be me. First time playing DnD. Liked to play support roles in other systems, so play life cleric. Couldn't help but grin in every fight when I became the second most dangerous player, WHILE keeping everyone alive. Don't anyone dare disrespect life clerics. They can most likely bash your head in.

  • @jamesstaton3265
    @jamesstaton32655 жыл бұрын

    So, my favorite character I've ever run was a Gnoll grave cleric. I'm personally amazed the character concept actually made sense. Managed to sneak a few bonuses extra bonuses in too by trading out the annoying 30 foot range for Spare the Dying, making it the regular version, for an extra racial ability. That giant fucking hyena kept people amazing alive amazingly well and smashed heads with the glorified nunchuks that are the flindbar, but when people died in a way that Revivify or Raise Dead couldn't fix, their corpse got eaten. Really put on edge on encounters with stuff that could pull that, knowing that if something that could pull that got them, there were no second chances.

  • @thomastakesatollforthedark2231

    @thomastakesatollforthedark2231

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wait where did.you get the Gnoll race? If its homebrew, got a link to where I can read it? Seems fun

  • @OceanEggg
    @OceanEggg5 жыл бұрын

    In the name of the father the son and the holy spirit, *I SMITE THEE IN THE NAME OF JESUS!*

  • @thepbg8453
    @thepbg84535 жыл бұрын

    Now to make that Ogre Cleric Because AC can never be too high :P

  • @silcrow4045

    @silcrow4045

    3 жыл бұрын

    Play a turtle.

  • @acorns-r-us
    @acorns-r-us5 жыл бұрын

    Plane Shift: *Amonkhet* has the extra 4 domains. Kaladesh discourages playing clerics

  • @zackaryw8407

    @zackaryw8407

    4 жыл бұрын

    Freaking, THIS! I was just about to say that there are no clerics in Kaladesh. I just downloaded the pdf to check and nope, none there. No religion in sight, just swiggity swiggity science.

  • @Misdreecko

    @Misdreecko

    4 жыл бұрын

    GOD DAMMIT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LOOKED THROUGH ALL THE INTERNET LOOKING FOR THE DOMAINS

  • @JadeBull-zg3hb
    @JadeBull-zg3hb5 жыл бұрын

    I forgot to take your advice and just witnessed a party of 4 lvl 8s (a zealot barb, open hand monk, evocation wizard, GRAVE CLERIC) survive an assault of 12 orcs and 6 orc war chiefs. Yeah.

  • @BigBoi237

    @BigBoi237

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your first problem was assuming that level 8s would have any trouble dispatching so few and so weak of forces.

  • @GermanGoodGuy
    @GermanGoodGuy5 жыл бұрын

    I don´t know if anyone said this already, but Planeshift: Kaladesh has no additional domains. It adds the Pyromancer origin to Sorcerer. The 4 additional Cleric domains are Ambition, Zeal, Strength, and Solidarity from Planeshift: Amonkhet

  • @kamark85

    @kamark85

    5 жыл бұрын

    Can i buy a beer to you? I was looking for this info...the kaladesh returned nothing! Thanks!

  • @A7xatic

    @A7xatic

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think he meant plane shift amonkhet. There are new domains in there.

  • @Aplesedjr

    @Aplesedjr

    4 жыл бұрын

    Milan Marković I smell just a hint of bias with the number of archetypes.

  • @Kiyosuki
    @Kiyosuki5 жыл бұрын

    Damn someone at Wizards of the Coast must really love this class. It truly can be almost anything it wants and sacrifice nearly nothing essential for it. Tempest Domain seems incredibly powerful, but War does seem fun and I hear nothing but good things about Forge Domain. I haven't played a Cleric yet myself but it's definitely on my to-do list. I envy (and honestly, somewhat question.) how many things this class can do.

  • @FinalReminisce
    @FinalReminisce4 жыл бұрын

    I forgot that I chose Grave as a Cleric. No wonder my DM "lost" my character sheet.

  • @meakimon
    @meakimon5 жыл бұрын

    This was SO helpful! Whenever I looked around, I couldn't find a lot of domains, so this video literally helped me pick the right domain for my character that wasn't an outright wizard with one heal spell. Thanks Davvy!

  • @featherfox6700
    @featherfox67004 жыл бұрын

    These are over a year old, and they're still fantastic!

  • @themindofdirge3809
    @themindofdirge38096 жыл бұрын

    GLORIOUS!

  • @marcuswright7925
    @marcuswright79255 жыл бұрын

    I’d be interested in another video on Clerics; your take on the additional 5 archetypes would be very entertaining.

  • @Mesigabe
    @Mesigabe6 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I just wanted to say that I think your videos are exceptionally good! You manage to distill all of this D&D class information down into a much more manageable form! Keep up the good work

  • @wramier
    @wramier2 жыл бұрын

    I almost always play a cleric. I love your videos. They're both hilarious and helpful.

  • @KershawsGoat
    @KershawsGoat5 жыл бұрын

    Just stumbled across this video as I'm about to start playing a grave cleric in a Curse of Strahd campaign tomorrow. This reaffirms my choice in character.

  • @ZombieChimpanzee
    @ZombieChimpanzee5 жыл бұрын

    "Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." god damn.

  • @kylie9871
    @kylie98714 жыл бұрын

    I'm new to D&D and my awesome DM friend helped me create a trickster cleric. I'm having a hard time understanding what to do, so this helped a lot!

  • @Myors
    @Myors6 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Some of the best content I have found while looking for info on clerics.

  • @HowtoRPG
    @HowtoRPG6 жыл бұрын

    You are very brave. Very funny as usual.

  • @sirragesalot2977
    @sirragesalot29774 жыл бұрын

    Character idea: cleric that is an atheist and thinks they are just a really weird wizard

  • @Cloud_Seeker

    @Cloud_Seeker

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not actually that strange. I actually made my world to allow that without it being a contradiction. First of you must understand what an atheist even is. If you look at dictionaries you will find nothing but bullshit answers as they are all biased and do not think about the consequences. If you define a atheist as someone that do not believe in a God, Buddhists are by definition atheists for that very reason. I don't exactly think it is fair to call the oldest living religion on earth atheistic. Buddhism is clearly not an atheistic religion as they themselves do not call themselves atheists. *Atheism is a rejection of theistic claims as being true.* Atheists reject tenets of Buddhism because they do not believe the claims are true. Atheists rejects the claims about Gods as true for the same reason. So. How can you have a cleric that is a servant to a powerful God without believing that it is a God? Simple. The cleric might not accept that a God is a God and not just some powerful being with massive amounts of power. Gods are celestials after all, a kind of creatures just like fey or devils. How is a powerful celestial any different from a power demon prince? Being a servant to a powerful creature is not the same as believing that it is a God. Warlocks can tell you the difference.

  • @tanyanikolaevagizdova6571

    @tanyanikolaevagizdova6571

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Cloud_Seeker Buddhism is actually an atheistic religion. Some sects at least.

  • @Cloud_Seeker

    @Cloud_Seeker

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tanyanikolaevagizdova6571 As an atheist I take objection to that. To define atheism as "rejection of god(s)" is just silly. Atheism is the rejection of theistic claims. This is the problem that comes when you ask people that believe and follow religions to define what atheism is. There is no way you get an accurate or representative definition from people that are not atheists. Yet that is what happens here. As for "atheistic religion". That is a contradiction. Its like trying to act naturally, or a married bachelor. It doesn't work. You can not follow a religion while being an atheist. When you found a religion (even if it doesn't have gods) you are no longer an atheist. Atheism isn't about rejecting gods or not.

  • @Aplesedjr

    @Aplesedjr

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cloud Seeker so is the definition you provided something you found, or is it a definition you came up with because you didn’t like the other ones? Because it seems to be the latter. Especially considering that the definition of theism is the belief in a god or gods, and atheism is the opposite of that. You can dislike the definition all you want, but pretending it means something completely different makes you wrong.

  • @Cloud_Seeker

    @Cloud_Seeker

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Aplesedjr Did you look up the definition in a dictionary? A dictionary do not define words or there meanings. A dictionary only show common usages of words and do not actually make any corrections if a word is used incorrectly. The word "literally" is such as word. It means literally and literally not literally at the same time. Theism is only defined as a "belief in god(s)" because it is people who believe in a god or gods that use the word the most and they will not try to be accurate to all other religions. The common definition is just biased and will literally not included the vast majority of religion that have existed. You will not find anything useful just by looking at a dictionary because it is inherently biased and do not try to be accurate. A dictionary will be shaped by the people that currently is in control of the language. Just so you know. This debate was common in 2008 all the way to 2013 and 2014. We are just repeating history at this point.

  • @Ashman658
    @Ashman6585 жыл бұрын

    been playing a lot of clerics later, you pretty much nailed it

  • @JordanXlord
    @JordanXlord6 жыл бұрын

    My day was already made the second I saw a new Devvy video. Clerics are my favorite class in d&d and this is my favorite class video (second place going to Barbarian)

  • @shmoopy4265
    @shmoopy42654 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, sometimes clerics are too powerful to not be a healer.

  • @TheRedAzuki
    @TheRedAzuki6 жыл бұрын

    Personally, my favorite domain is the Grave domain. Ability to turn immunity into vulerability ? Yes please. Having the Life Clerics final bonus at lvl 1. Yes please (Althought it's only for when people are downed, that's when you actually *need* to heal them, before then they are as good at HP1 as they are at HP 300. Also grave domain, is the only domain that makes Spare the dying a good spell. Making it 30ft and bonus action, as it was meant to be. Always having access to revivify is awesome as you don't need to save a slot for that, and any of the ress spells after that, you can just swap to after a long rest anyways. The fact it also have potent spellcasting, instead of a melee thing, is just icing on the cake.

  • @beargrills3508

    @beargrills3508

    5 жыл бұрын

    While i agree with most of this i *think* vulnerability and resistance/immunity cancel out, so giving vulnerability to a resistant creature simply makes it take normal damage and giving it to an immune creature does nothing, if i remember right. Still a great subclass though.

  • @cyberruck
    @cyberruck5 жыл бұрын

    I love how you describe things. I am a dm and you are the channel I point new players to.

  • @rossnorris2351
    @rossnorris23515 жыл бұрын

    You opened my eyes to a couple of new Cleric types I hadn't looked into. The grave domain and the arcana (?) Domain. Gotta look into both of those the next time I want to play a cleric. Thank you.

  • @theblazingcrusader6322
    @theblazingcrusader63225 жыл бұрын

    We have a death cleric in our tomb of annihilation game. But I don't think he wants to bring us from the dead as he believes only the strong can survive and the weak die (his character not him). I've found myself putting alot of faith in my rage because of that.

  • @EoHRichmasters
    @EoHRichmasters6 жыл бұрын

    why dont you have more subs ? Oo you are amazing greetings from germany

  • @HelpMeOuch
    @HelpMeOuch5 жыл бұрын

    I liked this video so much I forced my housemate/bff to watch it with me. Both watching were in the same day, and for some reason this is my favorite video of yours that I've watched. It slays me (and then throws a d8 at me so I don't actually die).

  • @eryvac0074
    @eryvac00744 жыл бұрын

    The cleric is my favourite class. I made a cleric a while back who is still one of my favourites. He was an air genasi tempest cleric who functioned as being made of storm clouds and lightning

  • @clydecrimsoncrow7740
    @clydecrimsoncrow77405 жыл бұрын

    How to bully the undead Be a cleric Bully the hell of the undead making them want to die Making the dead suffering

  • @overryans
    @overryans5 жыл бұрын

    I had a cleric npc kill my entire group after they murdered a town, he fought them all at once he was the same level as them

  • @BiChengYi
    @BiChengYi5 жыл бұрын

    You are make the best D&D videos on the web! You are HILARIOUS!!!

  • @SaifX5896
    @SaifX58966 жыл бұрын

    That was a fantastic video! I DEMAND MORE!

  • @TrigunnerX3
    @TrigunnerX35 жыл бұрын

    Actually, it's Plane Shift Amonkhet that has 4 unique domains based of the 5 main gods of the plane: Solidarity, Knowledge, Strength, Ambition, or Zeal. The Knowledge Domain is the only PHB domain on Amonkhet. Also, Kaldesh has *ZERO* divine magic involved. No clerics or paladins to be seen unless they're a planeswalker.

  • @wickedpissa25
    @wickedpissa255 жыл бұрын

    I love my grave cleric.

  • @graysondagent7721
    @graysondagent77215 жыл бұрын

    I love this series so much

  • @ponytail336
    @ponytail3365 жыл бұрын

    I think the biggest thing you missed about the Clerics, bonus spells. You only mentioned Light's and the occasional cantrip. Look at Trickery Cleric's bonus spells. *Look at them*

  • @Bigulth
    @Bigulth6 жыл бұрын

    is the "Glorious!!!" at 0:30 part of a song or just a sound bite from something else?

  • @johnniewalker877

    @johnniewalker877

    6 жыл бұрын

    Bigulth it’s a WWE theme song for I think Bobby Rhodes but I’m not 100% on who specifically just look up glorious domination wwe

  • @user-yy7tw9hv9n

    @user-yy7tw9hv9n

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@johnniewalker877 Bobby Roode is his name you got close with spelling his last name.

  • @Goonwithatireiron823
    @Goonwithatireiron8234 жыл бұрын

    I think my soul jumped out of my body when the glorious sound effect played

  • @calebcooper2645
    @calebcooper26455 жыл бұрын

    OMFG, Thanks bro for the hard laughs. Great video!

  • @the_well-known_stranger2275
    @the_well-known_stranger22756 жыл бұрын

    Your thumbnail is Perrin Aybarra from the Wheel of Time series, have you read it? It is an amazing series and is my favourite fantasy series of all time!

  • @cameronx5471

    @cameronx5471

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering if anyone else noticed that. I had that thumbnail as my desktop background for a while. Love The Wheel of Time :D

  • @unfairjarl

    @unfairjarl

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wait perrin gets THAT BADASS?!!? I need to get back to that serie

  • @masonmiller5394

    @masonmiller5394

    5 жыл бұрын

    I always thought Perrin was more of a fighter or a horizon walker ranger

  • @urquanoverlord2538
    @urquanoverlord25384 жыл бұрын

    I don't need grave cleric cuz I monk and "immune to dieing of death".

  • @frogulent3970
    @frogulent39705 жыл бұрын

    Cleric is officially my new favorite class

  • @steele7609
    @steele76092 жыл бұрын

    Thoroughly enjoyed this video

  • @skullsquad900
    @skullsquad9005 жыл бұрын

    Who else clicked for our Wolf Lord of Dreams, Perrin Aybara? Edit: You did do that on purpose, right Davvy?

  • @dilophosaurussk4333
    @dilophosaurussk43334 жыл бұрын

    9:05 Chris Pratt

  • @jhopkins1515
    @jhopkins15155 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making me want to play a Dragonborn War cleric, I don't know why I haven't seen it before or I haven't thought of it myself

  • @flareinc7413
    @flareinc74134 жыл бұрын

    Clerics are badass. Thanks for making this series. :)

  • @quiensera9947
    @quiensera99476 жыл бұрын

    I think War Clerics are kinda weaker than full martial classes cos they don't get extra attack or much support in total for weapon combat, plus they only get 2 channel divinity a short rest

  • @elgatochurro

    @elgatochurro

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kevin Da Otaku Goat no shit... its like a mixed class or something...

  • @gma5607

    @gma5607

    6 жыл бұрын

    There is no form of cleric weaker than a martial.

  • @elgatochurro

    @elgatochurro

    6 жыл бұрын

    GMA the free 2d8 bonus damage though?

  • @gma5607

    @gma5607

    6 жыл бұрын

    elgatochurro Spells. No form of cleric is weaker than a martial.

  • @elgatochurro

    @elgatochurro

    6 жыл бұрын

    GMA I know

  • @noahvintageweedkiller3154
    @noahvintageweedkiller31545 жыл бұрын

    What about a Teifling Cleric? How's that work?

  • @KuyalawVA

    @KuyalawVA

    5 жыл бұрын

    Noah 'VintageWeedKiller' look at Critical Role’s campaign 2 with Jester played by Laura Bailey as a Tiefling Trickster Cleric

  • @julierose689

    @julierose689

    5 жыл бұрын

    I love it when Jester keeps offering stale pastries to random people lol.

  • @David_Blake91

    @David_Blake91

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tieflings are not demons, only have some demonic heritage which is mostly affects their looks, but that's it.

  • @louiesatterwhite3885

    @louiesatterwhite3885

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@David_Blake91 they do get some magic from it too. They are also normally tending towards evil, but they don't have to be at all. I play a Neutral Good Tiefling Warlock, Pact of the Celestial.

  • @farscapecat

    @farscapecat

    4 жыл бұрын

    and her desire to draw d***s everywhere!!!!!

  • @fardareismai4495
    @fardareismai44953 жыл бұрын

    I still can't get over the fact you used a picture of Perrin Aybara (2:52 ish). It made my Wheel of Time obsessed heart happy

  • @TheDarktone101
    @TheDarktone1014 жыл бұрын

    I seriously dig your telling style bro 👍

  • @somefrog9673
    @somefrog96735 жыл бұрын

    I... I willingly play life cleric I am willing to carry. my freakin party.

  • @royplatt455

    @royplatt455

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know the burden, brother. Knowing that everyone's lives are in your hands is a heavy weight to bear.

  • @Saxie81

    @Saxie81

    4 жыл бұрын

    I just got into DND. Our party consisted of a rogue and a warlock. After a bit of research... I too went down the Life Domain.

  • @stevemcfatman1663
    @stevemcfatman16635 жыл бұрын

    Wizard: i use fireball DM: ok roll 1d10 Cleric: inflict wounds DM: okay 3d10 Wizard: at least I have range Cleric: guiding bolt DM: 4d6 Wizard: MY LIFE IS MEANINGLESS!!!

  • @gnomegains
    @gnomegains6 жыл бұрын

    The first time I played D&D I was at camp, and I was my cabin's cleric in first edition. Most fun thing I've ever done.

  • @transportforthefuture1498
    @transportforthefuture14983 жыл бұрын

    nice video! really helped and was fun to watch at the same time:) thanks!

  • @MisterTutor2010
    @MisterTutor20105 жыл бұрын

    Thor is a tempest cleric of the god known as Marvelfranchise :)

  • @voraminfantes5264
    @voraminfantes52646 жыл бұрын

    So, how do you deal with 2 grave domain clerics?

  • @DavvyChappy

    @DavvyChappy

    6 жыл бұрын

    voraminfantes You cry

  • @colinbrown74

    @colinbrown74

    6 жыл бұрын

    You realize they are far above what they truly are and throw a Lich at them to show them just what happens when they try and show the world who the strongest ruler of death is.

  • @tylergoerlich9494

    @tylergoerlich9494

    5 жыл бұрын

    You shoot magic missiles at a downed character, forcing it to fail here Death saves all at once.

  • @user-lo4wb3ew3f

    @user-lo4wb3ew3f

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cthulhu in Power Armor

  • @Lmskilla
    @Lmskilla6 жыл бұрын

    You earned a subscriber because of the Glorious snippet I love wrestling and D&D

  • @ChrisLovesComics
    @ChrisLovesComics3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the entertainment davvy! I'm a new player and you explained this video in a fun way

  • @Nyrufa
    @Nyrufa6 жыл бұрын

    Withhold healing magic from the reckless members of your party in order to instill them with the fear of death. Maybe then, they'll stop making stupid decisions! For added effect, do so on a more frequent basis as their characters become more powerful. Nothing sucks more in D&D than spending weeks leveling up your character, only to have them get killed off and lose all your hard earned progress!

  • @nickwilliams8302

    @nickwilliams8302

    6 жыл бұрын

    This is terrible advice. You suck at D&D and everyone you've ever played with calls you names behind your back.

  • @diegoacosta8550

    @diegoacosta8550

    5 жыл бұрын

    this is horrible advice, your players will hate you. It isn't bad to have the loomin danger of death, but eventually, the players will eventually feel like the DM is out to get them.

  • @nickwilliams8302

    @nickwilliams8302

    5 жыл бұрын

    Diego Acosta It's worse than that, Diego. Nyrufa is advocating that _players_ of Cleric PCs withhold healing from the PCs of players they deem "reckless."

  • @Nyrufa

    @Nyrufa

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nay, imbeciles! I'm suggesting you withhold healing because of role play reasons. Remember, Clerics aren't the same thing as Wizards. Their magic doesn't come from themselves, it comes from their gods. Every time they cast a spell, they pray to and open a channel for their deity to act upon the planes. It would make sense for a Cleric's god to get rather agitated if they constantly have to use their powers to revive the same morons over and over and over again. At that point, you're basically telling the players that death has no consequence, because "Oh, the Cleric will just bring us back!" Heck, if the character worships a different god than your own, you might even piss them off by constantly interfering!

  • @nickwilliams8302

    @nickwilliams8302

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ah, the old "But that's what my character would do!" excuse. Firstly, if _you_ create a character who treats their teammates in the bullshit, passive-aggressive manner you have advocated here, it's still _you_ choosing to treat your fellow players that way. In a group-based activity, you are failing to do your job. So you're failing at the "G" part of "RPG". Secondly, you seem focused (like all people who resort to "But that's what my character would do!") on _your_ roleplaying experience to the exclusion of everyone else's. How are _their_ characters supposed to react to your character being an utter douchebag? Just take it? Or do they boot your character from the team and find someone else? So you fail at the "RP" part of "RPG" as well. Here's an idea. If you have a problem with how a fellow player is behaving, _talk to them._ As it stands, they're probably of the opinion that if the Cleric's alive to heal and raise people after the fight, all is good. After all, it's the Fighter's _job_ to charge in and engage the enemy and they might think the're doing it quite well. If the other player is literally LEROY JENKINS, talk to the other players and stage some kind of intervention, they're probably sick of the guy too. But taking it upon yourself to dole out healing as a way of policing other players' behaviour is just a dick move. TBH, I find it difficult to believe that you've ever tried the shit you have advocated at the table. I certainly wouldn't put up with it at one I was running or even at.

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