The slower animations, limited rolls and much more strict stamina management make this game's PVP the most skill intensive and rewarding of all the Souls games, IMO. The faster pace of DS3 and ER are fun in their own way, but I really miss the emphasis on stamina management and punishes that DS2 brought to the table.

@Nunkuruji

Жыл бұрын

If Elden Ring would stop restoring stamina on crouch (or subtract as per jump), one might actually have to manage stamina.

I really miss the stamina aspect of the pvp, at a point you get so immersed that you can tell the options of your opponent from guessing how much stamina he has left, something that has been made entirely irrelevant in Elden Ring.

@schnozgaming989

Жыл бұрын

It started in ds3 or even bloodborne

@mwjgcreeves4984

Жыл бұрын

"I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my L2 button getting massacred!"

@kamehamehaDdragon

Жыл бұрын

Well they are quicker games overall, the combat is faster paced, more reaction-oriented. Having a ds2 stamina bar in those games would have been a bad design. edit: like imagine beating Mohg with a ds2 stamina bar, after dodging his chain of attacks, you wouldn't have enough to run at him and hit. Or you would be able to just r1 him once then walk away in hope he doesn't attack you. I think it was needed to make boss battles more interesting. That being said stamina recovery is an interesting aspect, its an aspect exclusive to ds2.

@trime1015

Жыл бұрын

@@kamehamehaDdragon Your point is kinda irrelevant because IF the stamina system would still be in place, the boss would obviously not have the same attack patterns. It worked in previous games without any drawbacks in interesting boss moves, so it could've been done again. Also, you can literally beat Mohg by not rolling once, just positioning yourself slightly behind him is enough.

@kamehamehaDdragon

Жыл бұрын

@@trime1015 when you say previous games, you only mean ds2 right? Because every other game has different stamina and attack recovery, ds2 is the only one that has super slow after attack recovery.

best magic system (especially hexes), best weapon variety, more created builds than any soulsborne game, best covenants especially covenant of champions (higher difficulty level), every NG+ are different not the same thing over and over again, and best bow builds. there are more but the most important thing that DS2 have that the others don't have, DS2 is tried to do something different (this is very important) but sadly lots of soulsborne players didn't acept it. DS2 is not a perfect game but the devs introduced lots of great ideas in this game especially in pvp. I loved this game.

The fact that back steps actually had iFrames really sold the PvP for me in this game. Not only was it stylish, but it was useful, whereas in all the other games, it pretty much only stylish

@shinren_

Жыл бұрын

Well if ur really good a backstep will give you more range in attacks

@cherrycola4476

Жыл бұрын

Too bad UGS recovery to too long so if someone has a straight sword they can just backstep light to death

@harrabi15

4 ай бұрын

@@cherrycola4476 if we're talking backstabs, look at ds1 pvp. It's basically just backstab cancer nowadays.

Ayo Steel, welcome back man. We should def host a fightclub or somethin if you're down.

What makes Ds2 pvp so fun is how many ways there are for you to express your skill at it, theres so much tech in this game that it can challenge Ds1 but unlike Ds1 the tech is not mandatory otherwise you get chainstabbed to death hahahahahah those were good times... also this game has way more variety in terns of weapons moves and builds and the fashion is still the best one for armor matching, theres so much that can be said about it but ill just end it there...

Stanceswap, quickrolls, animation cancels, pivot backstabs, tracked jumping attacks, recovery cancels, faster attacks, faster backstabs (or instant), plunge attack recovery cancel, phantom blocks and attacking while blocking, this game has a lot of useful hidden and advanced tecniques for the pvp compared with any of the other souls series, also i miss a bit the stamina management even if the combat of the game was slow because of that.

@user-228__

Жыл бұрын

More like glitch cancer

@WeeabooPocky

Жыл бұрын

@@user-228__ yeah, basically, but not gamebreaking compared with other ones in the souls games, like moveset swap of ds1 or the bow glitch of ds3. probably the worst one of ds2 is the "infinite" backstab bleed.

They should make a DS2 remake, it deserves more love

@johns966

Жыл бұрын

a dream come true

Really happy to see you appreciate quality independently from general opinion. Great dude!

Genuinely there was a Dark Souls 2: 2. It's where I had a full interest in PvP (and could be considered decent by regular standards) due to how the engine worked.

Best pvp in the series. Much more thoughtful and considered. Plus you could invade anyone. Don't like being invaded? Burn an effigy at the cost of not being able to summon.

Wow this game looks sick. Who should I keep watching to see more high level ds2?

@charred_dog

Жыл бұрын

The Rift

Best souls game PVP

Im still thinking to this day that dark souls 2 has better pvp than the other games The amount of stuff that you could do with skill was very high Gosh I missed this game so much

Best PvP in the series. It became fast paced chess at high rank

I really like Steel's spacing in DS2.

oh man my favorite game. powerstances + mix-match endless crazy setups

So they really gutted stamina management... strange decision. Tons of tricks in this game, reminds me of Tekken 5 DR in more ways than just graphics. Very fun fights and very nice build btw

PvE is really fun too! Saw "loads" (not THAT many, but alot for what i expected) of summon signs, and am now placing them myself and to my surprise i actually get summoned rather frequently (again, like twice an hour at the worst times, but still i didnt expect 2 people/hour beating bosses), especially the Loyce knights since alot of people farm the knight souls and the DLC areas meant to be co-op, like SmelterDemon. What they could've done, imo, is remove soul memory reqs for summoning, since that would boost the times you see summons/get summoned. Farming sunlight medals is a pain

I love ds2 but imo ds1 has the highest skill ceiling and most rewarding gameplay when you get good at it and have good opponents to fight

The animations give me conniptions

I remember having a blast with this game when Scholar came out on Ps4. Bloodborne was my first real ouls experience and while that was fun in its own way I sorely wished it had a better PvP because it was just dead by the time scholar came out. But this was always super active and I made a lot of long time friends playing this. Scholar will always have a special place for out of the souls games, even with its spammy PvE and soul memory matchmaking.

This was a great game with imo the best mancy of the series and bows were actually clutch in a fight 😌

That finish was beautiful

10 reasons DS2 has better PVP than the others. 1: It's not backstab centric like DS1. I have a friend who played like a thousand+ hours of just DS1's PVP and was REALLY good at it, like, "I'm going to humiliate this well known streamer/youtuber by accident" good, and at one point I got them to admit that "If you're doing something that isn't a backstab, setting up a backstab, or avoiding getting backstabbed, you shouldn't be doing it". 2: It doesn't have oneshot combos like DS3 and ER. 3: Stamina management is still a thing for people who don't invest heavily in it. 4: Weight gradually slows your character's movement and rolls down (I think in brackets of 10%, but it's been a while), meaning that you actually make trade offs for threading the needle before you're fatrolling, such as having a harder time chasing/escaping. 5: Up until ER, DS2 had the highest amount of build variety period. 6: DS2 has the best balance between the builds (you can make pretty much any weapon into a viable PVP or PVE weapon if you know how, bless Mundane). 7: Backsteps are actually useful (arguably too useful). 8: Best PVP covenants by a mile. Cosmetic rewards for having a good W/L record, access to 6(?) maps that are all very different (idk I haven't actually done the Blue Sentinels arenas), and Ratbros being absolute degenerates and pulling random people into THEIR worlds is an awesome reversal. Also the arenas were in the base game instead of being behind a DLC paywall like DS1, DS3, and almost certainly ER, so no fragmenting the playerbase through DLC access. 9: PVP is on by default and has to be turned off at a bonfire (as well as turning off for 30 minutes when the area's boss is beaten, and the timer only counts down while you're actively IN the area), as well as allowing solo invasions to happen to everyone by default (from BB onward invasions were tuned towards prioritizing people who have ally phantoms in the world, which is why ganksquads have been a problem in BB onward but DS2's never had anywhere NEAR as a much of an issue with it). Also PVP (and NPC invaders IIRC) still works in areas where you've beaten the bosses, which means people who like having invaders come into their world and mess with them aren't punished for progressing through the game (and also you don't lose out on drops from NPC invaders). 10: Poise is the most balanced its ever been. Actually useful and pretty intuitive without being absolutely degenerate like DS1 (and ER in some other ways but we'll see how patches address continue to address it). ER MIGHT end up in a better place than DS2 on the poise front, we'll see. Bonus: DS2 also does something smart where it gives you HP any time you raise a stat, and raising the dedicated HP stat means you just get even more HP on top of that. This means that it's almost impossible to be oneshot if you're in the level range you should be for a given area, even if you're not touching your HP stat at all, and it also means that people who want to get REALLY beefy can become proper tanks too.

@Graysett

Жыл бұрын

Bonus bonus I just remembered. DS2 had parries on L2 even when you were 2handing a weapon (at least for a lot of weapons), which was great for mindgames.

ds2 pyromancy spells were dope.hopefully er will get similar ones..fire dance was a favorite for me but didnt make it to ds3 ..

God that last fight was rough to watch ngl. Youghs spear has an awesome moveset and that dude just poked. Sadge.

I spent so many hours in this game compared to other Souls games.

Ds2 powertance is much cooler for pvp, also it's only souls game there left hand weapon has running r1

Its fire better for strench builds?

Poor guy at 9:18. I`ve forgotten just how awful Halberds were in Ds2

@cestlavie5063

Жыл бұрын

Don't know if awful is the word I'd use. It's definitely on the weaker end, but it's unparryable 2-handed r1/2's and wide sweeps gives it a use alongside more capable weapons.

I love ds2 back step cuz u can back step any spells and damage

the thing I kinda hated about ds2 "arenas" is that often you would run into players with massively higher levels than you and leads to being killed in 2-3 hits even if you got decent hp. Not sure what's the specific cap or range but i've ran into meta level players or 150 when i was 88-100 sl. I also didn't enjoy the backstep spam, not that fight to fight against.

There’s a lot of things I miss about Ds2. But people that dumped all their points into adaptability isn’t one of them🤮

9:26 Monkeovski

Man I do love some DS2 but the matchmaking system is still pretty broken. You know the good ol soulring trick

@imavya

Жыл бұрын

Arena technically has sl mm

and i got platinum on offline just 2 weeks ago

What’s the armor?

BEST SOULS.

What’s your favourite soulsborne game?

suprised he didnt encounter any brazillian 838s that RC for days with the shittiest net u ever seen

I noticed everyone you fought had good ping, or maybe the servers are better. Elden ring it's always lag/desync for some reason.

@youtubewanderer3347

Жыл бұрын

Ds2 netcode is much better than any other souls game. And it's also the only one that fixed phantom hits and status through rolls

@skatefast10202

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubewanderer3347 I wonder why that is? I mean Elden ring is a newer game? In my head it makes more sense that Elden ring's netcode would be flawless and that DS2 would be shit.

@youtubewanderer3347

Жыл бұрын

@@skatefast10202 Ds2 was developed mostly by a different team. That team is much better with netcode and servers.

@skatefast10202

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubewanderer3347 ahh that's right, totally forgot that there were other people developing ds2. Maybe that's also why ds2 is one of the most hated out of the 3. Personally I had a good time while playing ds2!

@imavya

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubewanderer3347 Phantom hits in dks2 exist. Look at Cb self inflicted damage for example. Also it had garbage netcode just like any other souls game

TAKE ME BACK

Can I play safely or is too much risky play online? (For the hackers)

@Steelovsky

Жыл бұрын

Always do the save backups. I'mma release video on how to protect yourself from the cheaters within few days.

the players slides, the movement is so weird

DS2... home...

Can someone tell me how do you have 99 of everyhing in every game ?? honest question

@user-ot7gb6gw5q

Жыл бұрын

he has the collector's edition

@JaneDoe-mp4dh

Жыл бұрын

He's an epic gamer (actually he used Cheat Engine).

@user-ot7gb6gw5q

Жыл бұрын

@@JaneDoe-mp4dh don't use the ch-word!

@xMeme_X_Lordx

Жыл бұрын

On console you need a buddy to help you dupe everything. Like everyone said above me,you can just use CE on PC.

@hadidub6830

Жыл бұрын

look for a mule save file. thats what everyone uses in ds2 instead of CE

i cAnt login and i have softs ver

Is this on pc? I wish I could play on ps4

@ranbojd1070

Жыл бұрын

.....But you can tho

@justwraith999

Жыл бұрын

I play on PS4 all the time

@rannithewitch3180

Жыл бұрын

ok thanks for answer

More ds2 pvp!!!!!!!!

\o/

Pilav?

Katana was and always is op

@RonaldMcdonaldKills

Жыл бұрын

i mean, makes sense, katanas are op irl too

@nachalnik5738

Жыл бұрын

@@RonaldMcdonaldKills only in weeaboo's fantasy

@youtubewanderer3347

Жыл бұрын

@@RonaldMcdonaldKills Katanas have always been pretty bad weapons historically

@RonaldMcdonaldKills

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubewanderer3347 idk man, my extensive knowledge of Katanas come from anime, so believe me, I kinda know what I'm talking about.

@RonaldMcdonaldKills

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubewanderer3347 that was a joke btw. >_>

Warper isnt the best weapon in the game

@Steelovsky

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Warper cannot be best as such weapon doesn't exist. Warped on the other hand...

DS2 is better than Elden ring

Game blows weens

Ppl got the nerve to hate in elden ring pvp when this looks atrocious lol. In truth I haven't played it I'm just judging by it's looks. Silly I know.

@_Ethereal420

Жыл бұрын

Lol it really does look a lil jank tho.

@youtubewanderer3347

Жыл бұрын

This is so much better mechanicly and balance wise

@5amura115

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubewanderer3347 strongly disagree. With 1.07 and more balancing on the way elden ring is astronomically better.

@youtubewanderer3347

Жыл бұрын

@@5amura115 Have you played Ds2 pvp?

@5amura115

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubewanderer3347 I've played 3, BB, and ER. The general consensus from the community says 3s pvp was the highpoint and I still feel ER out does 3 so based off of that and the pvp videos I've seen of 2 my assumption is that it can't compare. It looks slow and clunky where ER is fast and smooth. I guess it's not fair to assume but I won't buy it just to find out I was right in my assumption. This is all personal preference and an opinion of someone who hasn't actually played 2 I know.

trash game, should be called just sotfs

All I've been wanting for months now. I will probably never bother with ER PvP again and instead stick with II like I have been until it went offline 🙃