The cascade green is very "Pretty" but as Liz Steel put it, "I wouldn't really know how to use it as part of my palette or painting style". I have seen some interesting landscape demos with it but it is not very predictable in it's behaviour and similar effects I can create myself from colours already on my palette. Perylene Green on the other hand I find indispensable as a landscape painter. It works so harmoniously with other greens and yellows (far better than Neutral Tint or Paynes Grey) to provide those darker values or punch in real darks. In fact I use all three - I don't think there is such thing as a 'real neutral' tint, they all have a slight bias. NT works great with Reds and all the earth tones, Paynes Grey is my NT for Blues ...and Perylene Green my NT for greens.

Wow. Cascade Green with salt is totally the barnicles on humpback whales in a painting. ...omg, must. have. this. paint. O.O

Thanks for explaining why these two colors are going head to head, as I was quite confused by the title :p Cascade is lovely (and wow to that gauze!) but I cannot live without Perylene Green. It's an invaluable mixing color for me!

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Yes sorry! This season was made up of comparisons that were quite personal to my own situation (I bought the colours, then thought it might be good to make into videos). So some won't make much sense to compare. Season 2 will be much better thought out, and I will be able to take on requests if people are kind enough to maybe send in samples where I don't have any. I love love love the perylene green now too!

Please continue these DS showdowns. They are very helpful. Thank you

As I am fortunate to live in the Pacific Northwest near the Cascade Mountain range I love the Idea of a paint that reflects the colors I see in our hills. I feel lucky to live within a 20 min driving distance to M Graham and Gamblin paint manufacturers and a 3 to 4 hr drive to Daniel Smith in Seattle.

I have both on my palette. I find I use the Perelyne much more often.

I would have the perylene green on my palette, because its "flat" hue (and predictability) is perhaps more useful, but Cascade Green is always within reach just in case I need some moody effects all of a sudden :)

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

I can also see Perylene Green going very well with your usual color schemes. Perfect compliment to a ginger cat perhaps?

Omg I love this!! Im bingewatching this series

I’m so glad I found you on KZread. You are the color master! You have a fabulous accent & I’m learning leaps & bounds. I’ll keep watching

You're posting so often, it's amazing! I love both of these colours.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I film these two episodes at a time, so it's quite time efficient :) Glad you are enjoying them.

You truly have THE BEST COLOR information & comparisons. I have come to depend on them before & after every Purchase! After this one, I HAD to have that Cascade!! (have the Perelyn Green & its gorgeous, too). Thank you!

I am loving all your showdown videos. I love the science experiment aspect to the videos. These will be great references for your future projects. I love Daniel Smith paints so these videos are very helpful for me. Now, I need to go experiment with my own paints. Thanks for doing these videos.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Aw thank you so much for your kind words! So glad that you are enjoying the series. I was only going to do 10 episodes at first, but I think this series will have to have a season 2 very shortly.

How about "Undersea Green VS. Perylene Green" ?!? 🤔🤔🤔

This is exactly the comparison I needed! I have Cascade Green, but keep hearing amazing things about Perylene Green. I'm looking forward to watching your other videos!

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

So glad the video was exactly what you were looking for! Thanks for watching it 🤗

I would love to have them both. Both create very interesting textures and I liked the colors mixed with both.

Funny that, I was putting on my shoes to go _buy_ peryline green when I saw that you'd posted this video. Yé!

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

YES! Ha ha what a timing. Did it make you want it more? :D

Thank you so much for these series! I'm enjoying them a lot. As a newbie with DS watercolors, I got the "special effect" ones like Cascade Green, Moonglow and Rose of Ultramarine. I love Cascade green so much, it creates so much interest as a wash but after your previous video of the perylene colors and this one, I think I've come to appreciate a lot more the beautiful saturated colors these super dark colors create when mixing with others.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, the Perylene colours are so beautiful, and I had no idea about them until I made these videos either. I think they provide a nice deep contrast to all the bright colours and special effect colours.

I already have Cascade Green and I love it. Putting Perylene Green on my shopping list!

You just confirmed that I need perylene green in my palette! Cascade green is nice as well, but it can be mixed. The way cascade green granulates on the hot press paper is incredible (and not unexpected: granulation is actually most visible on hot press paper.) Loving the showdown, keep posting!

these are both very nice!!!

I’m finding these so helpful thank you xxx💕

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

so glad you are enjoying the series! Thank you for watching :D

For oceans, cascade green looks amazing!

I just bought the Colors of Inspirations metal tin (12 colors) that has the Cascade Green. Didn’t really know anything about that color so thanks for this! I also bought my birthday present my parents would give me as it was more convenient for them to do it this way and I already knew I wanted the Perylene Green for it’s own color both in mass tone and watered down and also it’s mixing abilities so this really is the most useful video I’ve seen to this date seeing as I know what I can achieve with 2 colors I already have. Your other video’s are so so helpful for choosing my other colors so thanks for all of them, even if I don’t often comment (think this is even my first comment lol)

Oh... this is all so tempting to me! Valarie (Drawing with Fire) recommended the Perylene Green as one of her favorite greens to me, but now that I see both of them... well... my list of "paints to buy" is getting longer and longer :D Thanks for testing all of those wonderful colors for us!

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think you can go wrong with perylene green. Thank you so much for watching :D

I have perylene green and love to use when painting pine trees or mountains in winter. I was so surprised how well it mixes with so many colours. I was yearning for the cascade green and glad I saw it in a new light. I think I will choose Moonglow as my next colour over cascade green, although it has amazing properties I don’t think I would do it justice in my paintings. Thanks for this comparison. ✨🎨💕

Oh noooooooo! I don't have either of theeeeeese!!!! I've wanted to get the perylene green, and actually wanted to make a wacky palette of only perylene colors but it turns out I've only got like.... two? And there's a total of maybe... five? Six? Hahah. Woah! That perylene green with the quinoa rose?!? It POPPED! So prettyyyyy. Kind of want both! Looking at my palette, some things that you could compare: Opera rose vs. Quinacridone Rose. Carmine vs. Alizarin Crimson. Pyrrol orange vs. Pyrrol scarlet. Quin burnt orange vs. Burnt Sienna. They're all relatively similar-ish and might have interesting results! Not sure what paints you have available to you but I suspect a number of them.

@InLiquidColor

6 жыл бұрын

Meow Meow Kapow quinoa rose 😂😂😂 but serious you have to get perylene green. It is life, haha.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

lmao quinoa rose! That is perfect!

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think there are like five? I'll need to add a couple more before I can do the very much requested Perylene colours video. I actually don't have any of the colours you listed besides the quin rose and quin burnt orange for Daniel Smith. maybe we could trade?

@MeowMeowKapow

6 жыл бұрын

BAHAHAHAHA. Oh, auto carrot, my old nemesis. =>..

@Amyduckie

6 жыл бұрын

I second all these suggestions, I’d totally send you some if I had tubes. I’ve only got a tube of opera pink.

I fell in love with Cascade Green a while ago but these are both equally useful. I will now have to find this Perylene Green to add to the collection. I could see this being useful to replace Paynes Grey in some instances as well as negative spaces in tree-scapes.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

The Perylene Green is a very versatile addition to any palette I think. Isn't Cascade Green just dreamy?

I dont have Cascade Green but Perylene Green makes, as you said, lovely inky colours and I often use it for really dark areas❤️

Ohhhh😍 I just love love love how the perylene green mixes with the phthalo blue.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

I agree, it's such a gorgeous color.

NICE!!! I have the perylene green, cascade green is in my wish list as I've seen some cool effects with it but wow, the tests you just did really show what it can do!. I'm just going to have that on hand as well. Maybe not in my pallet but to have for those certain things :)

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Yes I am doing the same. Cascade green is definitely a 'bring out when you need to' colour. Kinda scared to put it on my palette permanently, incase I pick it up subconsciously and make a mess.

I have the perylene green on my palette and I use it as my evergreen or pine tree color. Your color mixes were very insightful though and makes me want to try it out with my paints! Great review!

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

So glad you liked the colour mixes & that they were useful to you. Thank you for watching :D

I have perlene green, love it, more suitable for the Australian trees and mixes, love the granulation of the cascade also

Fascinating colors thank you

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome :D Thank you for watching the video.

Yes! Both greens are beautiful mixing colour, Wowwww! I couldn't pick one or the other out of the two (Have added both to my wishlist :P). Cascade Green reminds me of a bluer Viridian but not sure if its the lighting or not? and when it dried, thats when the differences really popped out. Wow, that blue separation is such a unique behaviour. I love the colour of Perylene Green but I feel like its a green that can be easily mixed with a small drop of red? or purple? Im not sure what colour off the top of my head to mute a dark green - I think I've seen it a few time while mixing greens though I doubt that would make a beautiful mixing colour after mixing ourselves.

I love both of these colors and put both of them in my palette.

Perylene green is a colour I can't live without. I use it on almost every painting. Thanks for the look at cascade green. I've thought of buying it but I will now probably save it til I want to use a special effects colour.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

I can totally see why you can't live without Perylene Green. It's such a beautiful enriching color. You are so welcome. Thank you for watching the video.

I think I need the Perylene Green now. Watching this particular episode, I am wondering if you might consider an addition to future seasons of the color showdowns? The Perylene lifted more where it was not fully dried vs. the dried lift test. Perhaps you may add an extra lift attempt while still slightly damp to test the colors twice? Once while not fully dried and a second once the paper is completely dried. Also on a slightly related question, I am assuming you put these test sheets into your printer...would you consider showing us how you make them? Again, I looooooooove these videos!!! Please don't stop!

I have both of these colors in my palate. Well, I have one in my main palette, and one in my secondary palette. Perylene green is constantly in use for just about everything. Cascade green was in there even though it’s a mix because it’s just one of those that is so hard to replicate and sooo pretty. It got kicked out of the main palette when I added some QoR paints though. I love it for oceans or foliage.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

I am impressed that a multi-pigment color made it on to your palette! It is very pretty, so very understandable :D

PBk31.. all the way. I also really like Holbeins shadow green very much. Same pigment.

Interesting comparison! I have a half pan of schmincke’s perylene green and a small 5ml tube of the cascade green. I kind of got the cascade just to try out bc i liked the name but didn’t enjoy it as much as my pan of perylene green. I might just pour it into pans and share with friends to finish it faster and get a tube of d.s. Or schmincke p. Green instead haha. I have been loving this series, Oto! 💕💕

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching the series Ashley! Yes I would say perylene green is a better addition to the colour palette. And most of those colours I mixed with on the video, you will have in your hands very soon, as they are mostly from the palette you won!

Can I just say, I've been loving this series~ 😻 Thank you for your thorough review!

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Awww thank you so much! So glad you are enjoying it.

I love Perylene Green (esp, in combination with Rich Green Gold PY129 and Pthalo Green PG7). You get an instant black mixing Perylene Green and Perylene Maroon. I agree with Cascade Green. I love it and it's fun, but it's more of a "special occassion" paint.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

woooo I will have to try mixing the Perylene Green with Rich Green Gold and PG7. Thank you for the tip!

I enjoy your comparison as it gives a good understanding of how we could use the colour and mixing. I would like to know about Perylene VS Shadow Green Shadow Green VS Undersea Green Thank you

I would get the cascade green for it's beautiful two color effect, and I would also get the perylene green for mixes, the are really dark and lovely!

I would go with the cascade green. Just up my alley unpredictable. Have no real artistic ability but love to play with paint. Thanks for the info.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome, and thank you for watching the video!

I'm quite attracted by both colors with their own specific effects. Thank you for your videos which are so well documented and so useful. I would love to get information about bloodstone genuine . Have you made any vidéo about it ?

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

I haven't made a video about it yet as I don't own that color yet. But it is on the list of colors I'd like to try.

I have cascade green and I used it often in my landscapes because of how unpredictable it is and it always gives me a nice surprise. I’ve had pyrelene green on my to buy list for a while because of how moody it looks. I’d really love to see a showdown between burnt sienna and quinacridone burnt orange. I personally have both in my palette but I find myself always choosing QBO because of its warmth and staining power. I’ve real enjoyed this series !!

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean about the QBO and Burnt Sienna. To be honest, all the browns look really similar to me, so it would be fun to learn more about the differences between them all :D

I prefer the qualities of the Perylene Green that you demonstrated as a palette color. I agree that it has a moodiness. I would probably give myself problems if I had Cascade Green on my regular palette. I loved the unpredictability of it, but for that reason, I'd pull it out only when I knew I wanted those qualities. My tendency when painting from my palette is to be impulsive and I could see myself getting very frustrated if I accidentally chose Cascade Green. Love this series!

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

I know EXACTLY what you mean. I feel just the same way about the Cascade Green. I paint quite intuitively from my palette too, and so I can very easily see myself getting into a mess if I pick up too much cascade green.

The Cascade has some really lovely effects, but that Perylene Green. . . not to be dramatic, but I'm not sure I can live without that color in my life. : ) It's such a gorgeous, deep color, and I love how it mixes. For me, PG is the one I'd put on my palette, with CG to pull out as needed.

I have perylene green and like it. However, the gauze effect of the other green is gorgeous. Is there a mix I could make to get the other green (?) in this comparison to use in those instances I would like to use for gauzing effects?

we have a farm with large ponds and I paint and sketch them many times. Perylene green is their color (unlike huge lakes and the ocean you do not get the blue or green effects of color that happens from sky reflections when it comes to ponds of several acres or smaller in sizes) I was spending way too much time trying to get this effect until I discovered this paint. It is an important color in my travel palette as it is also good for painting the shadows in the deep woods and mosses on old black tree trunks and lichen spots on rocks and in a light wash it shows the distant hills. I would think cascade green would be good for ocean landscapes but that is not a part of my daily practice.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

That must be so nice to be able to paint your own farm ❤️Thank you so much for taking the time to let us know how you use the color, it's really helpful.

@farmwife7944

6 жыл бұрын

I can look out in any direction and feel motivated to draw and paint which is a good thing to look forward to when cleaning out a stall or fixing the always failing pasture fences.! Yes, we love it here, but anywhere in upstate NY, foothills of the Adirondack Mtns, is so scenic and varied it is why many folks vacation up this way. We are old and have cut back lots on our farm stock due to physical limitations but we have more time for art, music, a bit of gardening, and walking the large acreage of hills, ponds, and pastures. No money, but we feel we have all we need to make a good life at this point in time. It helps to have an appreciation for wabi-sabi because that is essentially how we live.

Where can I get similar pre-printed comp sheets like those you use? Or did you make them up yourself and had them printed? Thank you for the showdown!

When you used salt with the cascade green and zoomed in it looks like mountains on a map (maybe even those three dimensional ones)

I think I'll start with the perylene and add cascade whenever I have some money left over... hahahah..yeah I was really attracted to it but I can see by your video and the comments that the perylene would be a safer choice. As you can see, I'm using your videos to make a DS wish list. I have moonglow, quinoa (ha) rose XD and green apetite genuine so far ... want a nice palette of around 12 colours. Any suggestions?

Perylene Green . Easy choice this time :)

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Yay, so glad it was easy to pick this time :D

Cascade green is a colour I want for its cool granulating and separating properties, but it doesn't feel like I need it as much as I did Rose of Ultramarine or Moonglow. Meanwhile, Perylene Green I will definitely get eventually for my "goth palette". Those deep, inky mixes are gorgeous! (Also, for the goth palette, I'm thinking M Graham's Naphthol Red is rich and bloody enough to be the red.)

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Yes! It was so hard to keep quiet about the Perylene Green when we were chatting about the goth palette on the other video. It's just so gorgeous. woooo I've not tried M. Graham's Napthol Red.

@LeySketch

6 жыл бұрын

Oto Kano Sneaky! 💜 Me neither, but I was looking through Jane Blundell's swatches and it looks gorgeous and intense!

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

ohhhhhh I'm going to check it out on her site....

@LeySketch

6 жыл бұрын

Aldewyne Oooh! Thank you! I might have to try that.

Would you happen to know why cascade green can charge more easily into another color than DS colors like thalo blue? Lavenda by Roman Szmal does that too. Curious what other colors do that or if you could make a video comparing colors that do and don’t spread that way. Thanks?

It seems like you could just mix the cascade green easily so that’s what I plan to do. There are so many pBr7 varieties, it would be fun to experiment. I was trying to read your handwriting in the video, but forgive me, my vision isn’t great! Was that pthalo blue red shade?

I want a taffeta dress in the pyranine!

Cascade green looks like it would be perfect for green hues of water in a landscape while perylene green looks like it would be perfect for various types of evergreens. Both very lovely colors!

Perylene green reminds me of mineral called seraphinite, especially that salt test looks like it. I ordered perylene green and perylene violet for me limited palette to dull down or neutralize my brighter colours. I like cascade green having this bright blue streak here and there. I feel like I'm not skilled enough to use it properly, so I'll stick to my boring and predictable colours xD

yaay perylene green! I can never take it off my palette. I use it by itself and for mixing darks.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Totally understand why Perylene Green is so popular now!

I had been using Holbein Shadow Green and had a "stockpile" so haven't switched to DS Perylene yet - it would be fun to compare those two . . .comparing "apples to apples" . . .Shadow Green is a staple in my palette . . . maybe next season? I LOVE Cascade Green for special effects washes . .. . .and now that I see it with gauze, it gives me some ideas!!! May I ask, when you use your gauze test, do you wet the paper before you put the gauze on??

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Yes the Holbein's shadow green is beautiful. I like it too. Yes I wet the paper first when I put down the gauze.

I love Holbeins Shadow green, which is made with same pigment as perylene green. I'm bit boring painter who enjoys colors that don't do crazy things like two tone granulating. But I paint miniatures, so anything granulating makes huge effect :D

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

gosh yes! A granulation on miniatures would look like the earth is cracking! I can see how the predictability of Holbeins are perfect for miniatures.

A tip for anyone wanting to try these: I believe both are available in 5ml tubes now. A more affordable option for sampling. :)

I absolutely love Perylene green, which I use a lot. But I just bought cascade green just because it is so beautiful. I’m not really sure how I will use it!…Maybe just apply it and enjoy its beauty!

Oto, I have both and both are in my palette. I use both so I would be hard pressed to choose one over the other.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, they are both very beautiful colours. How do you use the two?

@ChristinaTodd1970

6 жыл бұрын

I use the Cascade mixed with greens and yellows for leaves and on its own for backgrounds. I use perylene with lots of water for backgrounds, mixed with PV19's for a dark rich moody purple and on its own for negative painting, contrast, and shading.

The cascade green with the salt looks like sea foam at the edge of the beach. Thank you.

The Cascade Green, as you note, is made of phthalocyanine green and burnt sienna. You can make your own mix with those paints. I don't see a need to buy it.

Cascade green has never really spoken to me; I have both those colors on my palette and I can mix it if I need it. Perylene Green, on the other hand, is a palette staple for me, I can barely do without it. I use it straight from the tube for evergreens or as a darkening color for looser work, and as a base for mixing up all kinds of botanical greens. I prefer it over phthalo green as a mixing green.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Yes I can see how the perylene green is an easier mixing colour than phthalo. Probably creates much more natural looking colours.

I like the cascade green. Can you compare the Holbein perylenw green to.the daniel Smith? I'm curious. I have the holbein and the winsor and newton.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Do you mean Holbein's Shadow Green?

@MedaHalmaciu

6 жыл бұрын

Oto Kano Haha, yes, shadow green. It's a perylene green. I guess I will never get used to the holbein name 😊

Perylene green all the way. Perfect for landscapes and shadows.

Before I discovered your videos; I chose cascade green. I already had green apatite genuine and thought it close to perylene green. On seeing this video, I don't think perylene green is anything like green apatite genuine!

I'm crazy or perylene green has a lot of potential for cityscapes? Not only for vegetation but to use in mixes for all kind of neutrals. I think is time to sell another of my relatives to buy some more paints! ;)

Could you do a showdown if Bordeaux and quinacridone violet?

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

oh I was wondering about this for my own palette, but wasn't sure people wanted it. I might have to add this comparison back in now. But bascially, I did a quick test of bordeaux with Holbein's Quin Violet and they were pretty similar. Only difference was that the Bordeaux made a fraction brighter mixes. I will be replacing my quin violet with bordeaux. It's such a beautiful colour!

@palomalunamaranhaoconrado346

6 жыл бұрын

Oto Kano thank you! I was wondering which one of them I would add to my pallet as they are both beautiful but still very similar to have both.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

I think they are both very beautiful. BUT. What really pushed me to go for Bordeaux was when I mixed it with Hooker's Green. IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL. Try it.

Hi! I am curious, are you a medical dr.? Thank you for this video, I have both colors & this is very helpful!

To me these two are too different to really make a comparison. These are lovely greens indeed, and if I had the opportunity I'd choose both. Although I wouldn't use the salt effect with the Cascade green as in my eyes it looked like some horrible skin condition. 🤤

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

ha ha ha yeah I agree with you, salt with the Cascade green was WEIRD. I also agree with you about these two being quite different. It was just that I had only one spot let. This current series was made up from comparisons that were quite personal to my own situation & palette. I think there needs to be a season 2 where I can take requests in, if people are willing to share some of their paints with me to do the comparisons with.

@pikkuoo

6 жыл бұрын

Oto Kano This has been a truly great and informative series! It would be wonderful to have a series 2, but only in a way that won't require you to buy additional colours just for the series. Maybe you could let people vote for pigments/colours you are willing to compare, like Denise Soden does. I do understand that for a colour addict (me included) any excuse to get new paints is welcome yet problematic. As improbable as it seems, it is possible to own too many paints and the expense would be too high. For what I understand running a KZread channel, especially an art channel, is hard work and costly too. Does it help you if people let your channel run on a loop?

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I am getting to that point where, to expand and do requests (which I am more than happy to do), than I cannot afford it from my own personal finance atm. Biggest goal is to get this channel monitised, and to do that, yes just running my videos when you want something on in the background is a massive help! Thank you :) I am also going to set up a Patreon account this month to help with the material costs for the channel.

@pikkuoo

6 жыл бұрын

Oto Kano Ok. Finland is going to be even more clearly presented on your viewer stats from now on. And I'll certainly became a patron, to the extent my finances will allow me to do so. :) There's one really weird thing about KZread I'm struggling to fathom: every time I like a video and come back to read comments or just rewatch, whatever, the thump sign has changed back to grey. As far I understand things, it means my "like" has disappeared. So, like now when this maybe the fourth time I'm revisiting this video, I now have had to like it four times. I don't get it, and it irritates the living daylights out of me.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

Aw thank you so much for your support, I have tears in my eyes because you're being so kind! Thanks for letting me know about the thumbs up thing. How weird!? I know KZread are bringing out weird things all the time. I will keep my eyes on that when I watch other people's videos too.

cascade green is one of my favorite colors for painting leaves. I don't own perylene green.

Cascade Green in a really pretty completely useless colour. ;-)

wow cascade green looks really fun to play with. it reminds me of a camera flare. I think overall I prefer the colour of the perylene green.

@OtoKano

6 жыл бұрын

They are both really fun :D