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Player has his character ** in front of real-life children, Derails an adventure by having his character throw multiple literal temper tantrums, Ruins a PC's wedding by sexually harassing a recurring NPC, and then Suggests I should just allow him to derail My campaign for the sake of "Zen":
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  • @JohnShire387
    @JohnShire3872 жыл бұрын

    Gotta say, “That Guys” are always seamlessly able to role-play neutral evil or chaotic evil without even realizing it. Impressive.

  • @animeotaku307

    @animeotaku307

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ironically, most would claim that they're good.

  • @thetiredbiker3652

    @thetiredbiker3652

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s why I like using alignment changes based on actions. If your LG paladin does something not lawful or good, you might turn toward neutral on both axis. And if said paladin does a thing that’s completely right out, might just end up evil.

  • @AtlasRathbane4346

    @AtlasRathbane4346

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thetiredbiker3652 alignment change is a tradition of Dnd

  • @The_Brainsturgeon
    @The_Brainsturgeon2 жыл бұрын

    The "zen explained by some white dude" cracked me up.

  • @forrestkey9132

    @forrestkey9132

    2 жыл бұрын

    "He who says, does not know. He who doesnt say, knows." - Lao tzu

  • @alisontibbens2155
    @alisontibbens21552 жыл бұрын

    This monk is a classic abuser; constantly apologizing, promising to do better and abusing again.

  • @Mrinsecure
    @Mrinsecure2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine the lack of self-awareness required to throw tantrums in front of literal children, trying to bully his way into other people's personal scenes, constantly interrupting others and just generally acting like a big spoiled baby... and then lecturing *others* about Zen Buddhism. Just... wow.

  • @epsilon-eleven

    @epsilon-eleven

    2 жыл бұрын

    While insisting that Zen Buddhism is in fact the opposite of what Zen Buddhism teaches.

  • @kcollier2192
    @kcollier21922 жыл бұрын

    When pre-teens show more decorum, wisdom and restrain than a supposed 'adult'- said 'adult' needs to go away- far, far, FAR away...

  • @Eldridozen
    @Eldridozen2 жыл бұрын

    Idk how they let 'em stick around after throwing a tantrum like that around kids. An adult losing their shit is scary af for a kid.

  • @screwgoogle4993

    @screwgoogle4993

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's scary how many adults think it's OK to scream around children

  • @ArcmageZaln
    @ArcmageZaln2 жыл бұрын

    Did not know the new meaning of "Zen" is to just throw temper tantrums and make people do what you want.

  • @pavelZhd

    @pavelZhd

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. I am in no way an expert in Bhuddism, but I feel like Zen is about accepting the world is full of random crap, and being unphased when it hits you. Not about being full of random crap yourself.

  • @epsilon-eleven

    @epsilon-eleven

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pavelZhd It also has mindfulness as its primary theme; considering the consequences of your actions & doing your best to minimise harm is the *point* of Zen. This asshat decided to somehow interpret that to mean the opposite.

  • @jimisparx6953
    @jimisparx69532 жыл бұрын

    It would be fun as DM running the Curse of Strahd to turn the 'witch' into an innocent old lady. Then when the metagaming player makes some flimsy excuse to off her, the community finds out and makes the party into fugitives. That would definitely make the party dubious about acting on his out of game knowledge, even if he told them in secret when the GM wasn't present.

  • @theyondant6088

    @theyondant6088

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure I've actually had this happen to my group. We didn't even Metagame, we were just a group of overly paranoid sociopaths. When we got chased out of a town, and half of us beaten to the brink of death during the escape, it was a bit of a wake up call and we all fixed ourselves up soon after, so that was good.

  • @unluckyone1655

    @unluckyone1655

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats when you just change a few things up to keep things interesting. Kindof like how the movie The Thing changed around who the creature impersonated in the movie vs the short story so neither spoiles the other. A tidbit i thought was cool

  • @thunderflare59

    @thunderflare59

    2 жыл бұрын

    "A spoiler owl swoops down and gores your character. It's magical tallons kill your character perminantly. Your final words are, 'damn you, spoiler owl'."

  • @epsilon-eleven

    @epsilon-eleven

    2 жыл бұрын

    I ran it where she was still a witch. A good-aligned witch who was trying to free the people trapped in Barovia. The people who had played CoS before seemed to enjoy the changes.

  • @QahnaarinDovah

    @QahnaarinDovah

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@epsilon-eleven Heard there was a pretty big breach at site-19 last week. Good job getting that contained.

  • @thunderflare59
    @thunderflare592 жыл бұрын

    Well he wasn't wrong when he said his character embodied thoughtlessness.

  • @hiro4344
    @hiro43442 жыл бұрын

    I have to stop right now partway through that speech about Buddhism and zen and spontaneity to say "Oh my god."

  • @andrejg4136
    @andrejg41362 жыл бұрын

    Holy Christ that spiel about spontaneity actually made me want to throw my phone, and I'm at work while listening to this...

  • @jrepra
    @jrepra2 жыл бұрын

    It's funny how he pulls this whole passage about Buddhism in relation to his monk, but conveniently ignored the part where he himself said SELF RESTRAINT. You know. That super big thing when it comes to Buddhism. Self reflection, restraint, the teachings and reasons.

  • @Tytoalba777

    @Tytoalba777

    Жыл бұрын

    I know this comment is a year old, but I myself have no self restraint, so: the mention of self-restraint and all that was made by OP providing the wikipedia definition of Zen. The only definition Monk player has for it is "thoughtlessness"

  • @jrepra

    @jrepra

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Tytoalba777 I think they misunderstood what the intent of thoughtlessness is in relation to Buddhism.

  • @HitchcockJohn
    @HitchcockJohn2 жыл бұрын

    It can be hard to roleplay mental illness but I have managed to make it work before. I'm nto sure how many of my characters could be argued to neccessarily be mentally ill but psychological issues can be a good way to get into your character's head and think about how they would react to a situation. I have one character, a high elf druid who has some serious family issues. It's actually quite a depressing backstory that involved struggling with parental favoritism and double-standards (her brother being the "golden child" in the family while she was ignored), eventually driving her to run away from them. A lot of playing her has involved trying to take into consideration the mental effects of that difficult life. One detail of note was that a history of family neglect gave her difficulty with social skills, and a lot of her character arc has been slowly coming out of her shell and opening up to the party. Another important detail was that her family was an extremely rich and powerful one, and their neglect drove her to developing friendships with the servants instead. It resulted in a deeply-rooted dislike of nobility which even came up in the game when we were invited to a fancy party. We were supposed to meet with a rich noble and my character ended up making a scene when she actually called him out for a total lack of gratitude towards a gift presented by one of the other party members. That was BEFORE she got overwhelmed by the posh atmosphere and decided to go hang out in the servants' quarters where she was more comfortable. I also have a minor quirk that, because of her noble background, she tends to slip up and start talking formal when she gets mad. Like slipping into an old accent. Exploring psychological issues in DND is certainly doable but it can be tricky. I guess part of it is remaining consistent but also making sure it makes sense in game. It sounds like the whole self-harm thing that was going on with the Monk came completely out of nowhere. Maybe it was meant to be a twist but mental issues tend to be a lot more complicated than that. They probably could have done more to build up that he had issues he was struggling with. On the other hand, jumping to an extreme like that in a game that was intended to have minors playing it is going a bit overboard. Mental illness can come in a variety of forms and it's not always violent (in fact if anything it more often enables people to be VICTIMS of violence than it does drive them to commit it). If he really wanted to get into the guy's trauma surely there are other ways he could have done it- maybe look into his thought process or how he reacts to things in the world. Maybe show him getting uncomfortable around things that remind him of his trauma.

  • @idiotically-everything

    @idiotically-everything

    2 жыл бұрын

    I usually rp mental health stuff I actually deal with. That way, I know it's somewhat accurate since same stuff affects different people in different ways. If I want to rp something I don't deal with, I research it from a psychological standpoint and from first hand experiences. Then sit on the topic for ages figuring out how it affects my character. It will never be perfect, because there are so many variables, from person to person, but at least I won't misrepresent it horribly. You should also do it with basic concepts, research that type of stuff and for the love of Satan torture doesn't. I'm so tired of seeing players try it.

  • @darth_emerald

    @darth_emerald

    5 ай бұрын

    I’ve actually managed to do the same with my old tiefling WizLock (Wizard/Warlock), I made sure to consult several sources and do research so I could accurately and correctly depict a man who suffered at the hands of his own father figure and is suffering from CPTSD as a result

  • @HitchcockJohn

    @HitchcockJohn

    5 ай бұрын

    I actually did another one recently that had an interesting angle. It was for a Norse-themed campaign so I took some loose inspiration from Kratos with maybe a bit of Yasha. The basic idea was that her village was ransacked by some really unpleasant individuals who killed her girlfriend. She was then consumed by rage and went on a huge rampage of revenge during which she was so caught up in her anger she didn't really notice or care who died in the process. By the time the game started she'd mellowed out a bit and spent a lot of the campaign struggling with the guilt of her previous actions and the fear of being turned back into the vengeful monster she used to be. @@darth_emerald​

  • @Mr.Spongecake
    @Mr.Spongecake2 жыл бұрын

    "My character EMBODIES Zen, which emphasizes self-restraint! Even though my character was flogging himself earlier, he EMBODIES SELF RESTRAINT don't worry about it... You seem to spend so much time planning things out like I planned out that 8 minute speech about how bad and horrible my character's life is and THAT'S HORRIBLE. When player characters enter the picture, especially that drunken bastard which my character was also drunk but never mind that, they could derail all that hard work like I tried to do when I tried to break into a prayer for someone's son don't worry about that. I think you could take an opportunity to learn to adapt like I did when I complained at the point where my character was arrested and thrown in jail it's OK, don't worry about that."

  • @thelolilibra
    @thelolilibra2 жыл бұрын

    LITERAL CHILDREN. what a nightmare. OP's patience is.. beyond me.

  • @Darkman9000
    @Darkman90002 жыл бұрын

    Almost sounds like the guy wanted to be Adrian Monk from the TV show, except this guy failed to grasp what made Tony Shalhoub's iconic character so memorable and nuanced

  • @idiotically-everything
    @idiotically-everything2 жыл бұрын

    0:36 We are playing lost mines if phandalver but I've read the whole adventure already since I dm'd it for my friends. I still pretend I don't know anything about it so that it doesn't ruin the fun for others.

  • @KertaDrake
    @KertaDrake2 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it wonderful how kids are always the more mature ones?

  • @TigerW0lf
    @TigerW0lf2 жыл бұрын

    Looks at monk: "Do you know the definition of insanity?"

  • @oliviawilliams6204
    @oliviawilliams62042 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me I’m starting to think about making an initiation campaign to role playing for one of my friends kids, using Shadowrun anarchy. They are younger even than those literal children in the story and I want to be very careful and their dad would be a part of it.

  • @SamWeltzin
    @SamWeltzin2 жыл бұрын

    Like...he's not wrong that you need some ability to go with the flow as a DM, and if it were coming from any other player, it might be cause for a bit of self-reflection for the OP, but the guy's pretty much proved himself to not have any idea what he's talking about long before this, and his description of the spiritual stuff completely misses the point too. It's not about just doing whatever you feel like at any given moment so much as taking the crap life slings at you and working it into what you want to do instead of getting upset and fighting it. If we all just went with our whims, it'd be a hard damn life.

  • @animeotaku307

    @animeotaku307

    2 жыл бұрын

    That speech would be appropriate to address a rail-roading DM. Not a DM making you face the consequences of your actions.

  • @SamWeltzin

    @SamWeltzin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@animeotaku307 Yup, exactly. Granted, the speech itself was pretty awkward and weird too, but the spirit behind it would fit a railroading DM. Obviously the OP ISN'T one, but we're talkin' hypotheticals here.

  • @screwgoogle4993

    @screwgoogle4993

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tell feminists that

  • @animeotaku307

    @animeotaku307

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@screwgoogle4993 Or anyone who unironically uses the term “cultural Marxism.”

  • @SamWeltzin

    @SamWeltzin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@screwgoogle4993 ...The fuck did that come from?

  • @kevinchong5424
    @kevinchong54242 жыл бұрын

    Lol, as someone with Asian roots but grown up in Europe, I just love it when 'white guys' explain zen, or really anything Asian to me. It's always so floaty and have me thinking 'should I go find and pop that, or not?' Edit: Loving the mention of another of my favorite channel, Hello Future Me

  • @unluckyone1655
    @unluckyone16552 жыл бұрын

    Sigh literal children. Seriously though i had to dump a few friends like monk in the story. Mental illness only explains behavior, it doesnt excuse bad behavior. If someone is being abusive, it doesnt matter how hard their life is, nobody owes them their time nor energy to help them specifically cope at others expense. Its just best to walk away whenever you get the chance and hope that that person gets much needed help

  • @robertdirenzo1827
    @robertdirenzo1827 Жыл бұрын

    "the guards restrain monk, monk tries to break his restraints" reminds me so much of "I can break these cuffs" -Suspect "You can't break those cuffs" -Cop "Gyaaaaaughhh" -Suspect

  • @360entertainment2
    @360entertainment2 Жыл бұрын

    That dude’s understanding of Buddhism seems a lot more like a misunderstanding!

  • @peterwindhorst5775
    @peterwindhorst57752 жыл бұрын

    This is where the gm modifies the module.

  • @Orsonfoe
    @Orsonfoe2 жыл бұрын

    I think randome kids and random adults only works in like store events and such. Where there are set rules and stuff that must be followed.

  • @TriaMaxwell
    @TriaMaxwell2 жыл бұрын

    Oh that dude.... He certainly was thoughtless

  • @janski8029
    @janski80292 жыл бұрын

    I had the opposite happen the other day. Had to watch my fellow adventures struggle on a puzzle that i had done in that campaign before. (This was ToA and the previous time our party got wiped really early. So when my new dm said he wanted to run it i ofcourse said yes and told him i had gone through it a little already)

  • @Lhime17
    @Lhime172 жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel the other day and I am really enjoying your approach to reading and commenting on the stories. Glad I found your videos!

  • @gelbadayah.sneach579
    @gelbadayah.sneach5792 жыл бұрын

    The more horror stories I listen to the more solid my belief that some people are simply incapable of stopping their bad behavior.

  • @TheMightyBattleSquid

    @TheMightyBattleSquid

    2 жыл бұрын

    The problem with a lot of these narcissists is the person cannot be convinced that the behavior is a problem because the consequences of it don't fall on them and their condition has wired them to only care about themselves.

  • @gelbadayah.sneach579

    @gelbadayah.sneach579

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMightyBattleSquid Absolutely! In fact, this exactly describes someone I had to cut out of my own life.

  • @d20revolt57
    @d20revolt572 жыл бұрын

    That first story is why I only run scenarios in CoC for people who have never played said module before. That way there's no way they can meta-game.

  • @DerRotSpassvogel
    @DerRotSpassvogel10 ай бұрын

    Being mindless is not the same as acting thoughtlessly

  • @boomfanfic-a-latta8996
    @boomfanfic-a-latta89968 ай бұрын

    [sees the title] oh great now I'm having flashbacks to a former friend of mine who made a 2 1/2 HOUR KZread VIDEO bullying literal children

  • @maeve615
    @maeve615 Жыл бұрын

    15:50 oh hell I know that one, A Taste of Banzo's Sword...

  • @BadassHater1
    @BadassHater1 Жыл бұрын

    How actual good players that know the module should replay it with noobs: - I comfort this old lady and accept her quest to gather ghoul ribs and banshee hair so that she can make some soup for dinner - *silently* Should we tell him? - *also silently* No. Let that be a surprise.

  • @EmeralBookwise
    @EmeralBookwise Жыл бұрын

    I think there can be situations where mixing children with "random" adults they've never met before can be acceptable. For example, if the adult is someone who works with children in a professional capacity, such as a teacher or pediatrician.

  • @Chaosqueenngami
    @Chaosqueenngami11 ай бұрын

    11:17 Why? It’s perfectly feasible to just leave someone who has been annoying you and your party and hampering your progress, to rot in a prison.

  • @rweeks48
    @rweeks48 Жыл бұрын

    I understand what you are saying about the kids in game but.... my oldest 13 female wated to start playing. So being the stand up dad I am I found a game at a local game shop. We brought her younger sister along with us did section zero with the DM who took his time with us to set up our player sheets. We show up to section 1 and walk in thinking it's just going to be us 3. And low and behold there are 3 adults (older then me) already sitting at the table? We start playing take a little time to get to know each other. And been playing with them ever since. Now the caveat being that I am playing also has the father to keep an eye on everything. We keep everything above the line and stay away from touchy subjects.

  • @blahblahpocalyspe8323
    @blahblahpocalyspe83232 жыл бұрын

    Don't bail! Call them out.

  • @necromancercrow6696
    @necromancercrow66962 жыл бұрын

    Genuinely think the only time random kids and random adults can work is when it's done by like a shop in a very controlled environment with enough oversight and guidance to try to prevent issues

  • @flexiblenerd
    @flexiblenerd2 жыл бұрын

    So, you're not wrong about depicting mental health issues. I've played "psychotic" characters in the past (in pbp rps), and characters who just have certain issues; on some of these (particularly my later characters), I did at least a passable amount of research on certain mental disorders and such, but they weren't completely perfect and weren't meant to be in any way. Hell, I had one character who was a little girl of maybe 8ish (can't remember exactly) who did in fact have the mind of her child self but also had some serious sadism issues (also telekinesis - not a good combo; let's just say it got messy in one of the classroom rps and the story turned out deliciously horrible - I think others were having fun with their reactions, though). But a few of the characters I did had some serious issues and I think I played them well enough. I myself suffer from depression. It comes and goes, but depression can be both easy and hard to portray in any setting. It affects everyone differently, to different degrees, people handle it differently, and that can make it a very open book on how to portray it but also makes it difficult to really dig into correctly. I don't mind playing characters with mental health issues and I think it's a great way to explore those issues as well as make your character unique and give them unique challenges to overcome. But it is very easy to get them very wrong, and you have to tailor your portrayal to the situation, both in-rp and out-of-character. The psycho girl? Yeah, we were all mature enough to handle it and like I said, I think people had fun with their reactions. That wasn't meant to be a character seen by children, and I would have toned it down considerably had their been actual children on the site (or, well, had I been made aware of them - there may have been without me knowing). So it's kind of like stage performances - you have to know your audience, whether you're a comedian or a musician or just an actor in a play who likes to break the fourth wall. This guy clearly didn't know his audience...or just didn't care. And not just on the issue of mental health.

  • @jamesgreene6113
    @jamesgreene61132 жыл бұрын

    "Literal Children!"

  • @marcusreading3783
    @marcusreading37832 жыл бұрын

    Its nearly impossible to accurately portray mental health issues in fiction for two reasons. From the perspective of the sufferer, well, how are you even supposed to DO that? Its possible, but often results in weird and wacky imagery that just doesnt work to give an accurate picture of what the sufferers go through. From the outside its a similar issue. Most mental health issues arent obvious, so its difficult to portray them without having to resort to stereotypes or over exadurate the issues, which further gives the audience misleading impressions. Frankly, I'd prefer to leave it to people much better at writing than I am. That being said, I'm not entirely sure what having kids at the table has to do with not killing the occasional character. I suppose that having the monk getting nommed by a dragon might be a bit much, but most kids can take a wee bit of death in their fiction. Case in point, EVERY DISNEY MOVE EVER.

  • @SetzerII

    @SetzerII

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends on the details I'd say. You can see a dragon toss the guy over his head and gulp him whole like a big dog with a small treat, and it would be funny.

  • @marcusreading3783

    @marcusreading3783

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SetzerII Yup. I dont know why people think the kiddies need to be shielded from things like death and pain. They are a part of life and, while I obviously wouldnt show them the Saw movies or some genuinely horrible shit, you shouldnt shy away from including them in young peoples entertainment. It can only help them to grow into well rounded adults in the future. Assuming you dont do something dumb like show them the Saw movies.

  • @1970joedub

    @1970joedub

    2 жыл бұрын

    Read more fiction. It’s not impossible.

  • @elvingearmasterirma7241

    @elvingearmasterirma7241

    2 жыл бұрын

    Frankly I would have let the dragon comically eat the monk. I think the kids would've liked that.

  • @lyreamoonchild2024
    @lyreamoonchild20242 жыл бұрын

    A pirate monk Sounds plausable maybe not as a " pirate " more as a Globe trotter

  • @theofficerfactory2625
    @theofficerfactory26252 жыл бұрын

    Woooow. This guy is so into self flagellation. Woooooooow.

  • @APerson-ws4cw
    @APerson-ws4cw2 жыл бұрын

    I ran a one-shot at a game shop where the parties ended up randomised and did have 2 kids in my party, but they had their mom(?) with them so that turned out okay. One of them was actually a pretty good player!

  • @Charnel_Heart
    @Charnel_Heart Жыл бұрын

    I recognize the exact Alan Watts lecture on zen the monk player was Wilfully and shamelessly misinterpreting

  • @marybdrake1472
    @marybdrake1472 Жыл бұрын

    Okay, this monk player is really something else. Behaving that way with actual freaking kids present is absolutely stupid. And then to spout a bunch of self-righteous drivel like that is a special kind of stupid. I'm not even going to get into the derailing attempts.

  • @kojikashiin319
    @kojikashiin3192 жыл бұрын

    Bro I finally found it A DND horror story channel where the guy reading has some inflection Lemme crack your Liberty bell

  • @Tytoalba777
    @Tytoalba777 Жыл бұрын

    Did random white dude teacher of Zen actually say that Buddhism emphasizes "Clear-mindedness" and monk-player interpreted that as "thoughtlessness?" Because that's not what clear-mindedness means.

  • @blakehd6131
    @blakehd6131Ай бұрын

    the thumbnail and title is making me imagine the buff guy being the “that guy” screaming at kids like a character from monster inc and it’s so funny

  • @mischiefgoblin9102
    @mischiefgoblin91022 жыл бұрын

    Wow sounds like I've played with this guy too xD

  • @jasontepp5319
    @jasontepp53192 жыл бұрын

    I (42m) am in a game with our DM (35m), his 9 year old daughter (who considers me an uncle because neither parent has siblings), a 14 year old female that I've known for 5 plus years, and a 30 year old male. The game is really fun. Apparently, my best friends 9 year old daughter is a murder hobo lol

  • @wisdomcoffee
    @wisdomcoffee2 жыл бұрын

    Uh ok I got to about 7 minutes and inviting an adult weirdo you know nothing about to play in a game with children present is so irresponsible! OP made a really bad call

  • @alexinfinite7142
    @alexinfinite71422 жыл бұрын

    How old is this dude again...? "Literal children "

  • @Facebooker413
    @Facebooker4132 жыл бұрын

    I hope to god that white guy Monk reference isnt Alan Watts. It'd make my Zen/Iroh-esque Mentor hybrid character feel dumber

  • @kevinewer1914
    @kevinewer19142 жыл бұрын

    “Literal Children.”

  • @SkarintheViking
    @SkarintheViking2 жыл бұрын

    Someone please think of the children!!!!!

  • @ZedMazaus480
    @ZedMazaus4802 жыл бұрын

    LITTERAL CHILDREN!! No seriously there are litteral children at the game table! How in Zues's running sandles actually think any of those things were age appropriate? I swear he was only using them as an excuse to do anything he wanted, or test what he could get away with. And that supposed zen messaged was a laughable failed attempt at getting the DM to just to let him to do what ever he likes no matter how messed up it is. And how much REAL DMing experience does he actually have?! Every time we hear someone mention how much "DM experience" they have as a rebuttal its always used by bad DMs or have no experience at all. Frankly I think this guy clearly knew what he was doing, and just dilliberatly did those things knowing people would be less likely to kick him due to his disability. Then he pulls that neck beard stunt leaving a 8 page essay criticizing the rest of the group after he gets the boot. Its things like this that the 3 strike system has to get enforced when you start having to pull someone aside multiple times.

  • @screwgoogle4993

    @screwgoogle4993

    2 жыл бұрын

    WHAT "disability"? You mean the disability of being raised wrong? Sure you can call it that if you want. The guy is perfectly capable of manipulation. There is no significant "disability" here. He is perfectly able. Dumb, but able.

  • @ZedMazaus480

    @ZedMazaus480

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@screwgoogle4993 I was refering how OP mentioned how he was metally slow or challenged possibly by they treated him, and early discriptor. Anyways in anycase I agree with you. He clearly did everything with full knowlege and intent.

  • @epsilon-eleven

    @epsilon-eleven

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@screwgoogle4993 I see you speak about being raised wrong from firsthand experience. Of course, the problem player could also be a narcissist due to psychological issues that have nothing to do with how he was raised. People rarely choose to be narcissists.

  • @talldorf6445

    @talldorf6445

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@epsilon-eleven it depends really. Where I work (a home for people with physical and behavioral disabilities. )one of the fellows has OCD and is a huge narcissist(thinks he the one in the right. Blames others for his failings, etc.) Given that his mom (someone with disabilities.) Raised him as if he could do no wrong and still actively encourages it. It'snot hard to see how being raised affected that. Living here now he demands things from us the staff and other residents, and complains about it (just to complain) Bear in mind that he has an underlying behavioral problem that feeds into that, but this is an extreme case of feeding bad behavior.

  • @jdizzy192
    @jdizzy1922 жыл бұрын

    My current character has minor mental health issues. She went through some trauma and spends a lot of time drinking her pain away. It's not something I bring up every session outside of asking where the tavern is located but I'm very cautious about how I portray her issues, e.g. keep it light and fantastical. Monk went all in on children like a weird spaz so fuck that guy

  • @Icalasari
    @Icalasari4 ай бұрын

    Oh that monk would NOT last at my table and I am learning I have a bit of a temper as a DM cripes... EDIT: Basically, the first time he goes inappropriate around the _kids,_ he's gone. I am NOT allowing somebody to behave like that around children at my table. Just no

  • @RegisVasa
    @RegisVasa2 жыл бұрын

    15:40 the tale ends, depending on the telling, with the student either breaking the stick, or punching the master.

  • @philkovach948
    @philkovach9482 жыл бұрын

    LITERAL CHILDREN!

  • @bigaloobooberry3461
    @bigaloobooberry34612 жыл бұрын

    I feel like if you are going to have actual children in your group all the adults with the childrens parents should have a sit down laying out the rules keeping things rated to what movies the kids could go watch at a movie theater. Under 13? Keep it rated G 13-17? PG13. Its limiting but it protects the kids and thats what matters most.

  • @catandrobbyflores
    @catandrobbyflores2 жыл бұрын

    Why oh why is curse of strahd the source of so many horror stories!? No it's not a kink. I believe it has something to do with keeping focused and if you drop your focus you'd be hit on the head or something.

  • @unluckyone1655

    @unluckyone1655

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean, its supposed to be a horror module, where resources can be a pain to get and you have to be on your guard at all times because shit can go sideways quick, just like in a horror movie or book. If ran right it can be super fun and make you feel like you are in an old school Hammer film horror movie. But boy is it also so easy to screw up if you dont know the difference between gothic horror (which CoS os supposed to be) and Lovecraftian horror.

  • @catandrobbyflores

    @catandrobbyflores

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@unluckyone1655 I've played it at least 4 different times in my dnd career and the only way I've seen it go south is if the dm is a complete moron.

  • @talldorf6445

    @talldorf6445

    2 жыл бұрын

    I might sound old and grognardy by me saying this. But it's honestly because no one knows how to do scary. The old 3.5 setting and rules were amazing and it was my favorite campaign I ever had. Then when I in 5e most of my horror stories are here. Either paladin who metagamed the dark powers (I still think that the dark powers give you things is terrible but I digress.) And a pompous jerk of player playing a pompous bard who thought everything was a joke. The bards player made not want to d&d for years after an agrecious rant about ludites (bear in mind. I was running another game where this was a magical item I gave a player.) The game promptly fell apart, even when they asked me to come back.

  • @picses76
    @picses762 жыл бұрын

    Literal Children!

  • @braija
    @braija Жыл бұрын

    A guy listening to the first track on a cd calling himself a zen master. No problem there..

  • @VayaKahvi
    @VayaKahvi2 жыл бұрын

    So, this That Guy reminds me of a player that my friends would occasionally let it, who had a weird obsession with PTSD and characters having it, but he was always so over the top about it and it wasn't just Hollywood depiction bad, though the worst instance happened to be in a game run by someone with actual PTSD who told That Guy to cut it the f*ck out.

  • @kainlockley
    @kainlockley2 жыл бұрын

    Love the video. On a related note, what's a nacistic tantrum?

  • @CrispysTavern

    @CrispysTavern

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tantrum… fueled by narcissism? I don’t know. Wanted to get the buzz word in the video

  • @andrejg4136

    @andrejg4136

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CrispysTavern yeah that's pretty much what it is

  • @kainlockley

    @kainlockley

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol. But in the video tag, it says Narcistic

  • @kainlockley

    @kainlockley

    2 жыл бұрын

    Throws a Narcistic Tantrum

  • @Arcticmaster1190

    @Arcticmaster1190

    2 жыл бұрын

    Basically a self-entitled rant, usually through shouting, where the narcissist believes they are in the right. The narcissistic aspect is in the person believing they are the one who is right without caring about the other’s opinion (or at least values their own side in high regard and claim to pretend to take in the other side). The tantrum side is the yelling and screaming- typically to get their own way in the situation. When the person’s emotions overtake any sort of fairness and the person believes getting angry gets them what they want when they have no sense of fairness.

  • @AltogetherGuy
    @AltogetherGuy2 жыл бұрын

    If he’s been listening to Alan Watts, he’s actually worth listening to. But maybe not worth making a character of in your RPG.

  • @HardlyBardly
    @HardlyBardly2 жыл бұрын

    Literal. Children.

  • @jane9001
    @jane90012 жыл бұрын

    literal children

  • @NickKzig
    @NickKzig2 жыл бұрын

    Ugh, literal children lol

  • @zekzeon3369
    @zekzeon33692 жыл бұрын

    Literal children.....

  • @DirkLoechel
    @DirkLoechel Жыл бұрын

    LITERAL CHILDREN

  • @Demiurge13
    @Demiurge132 жыл бұрын

    so can anybody give me any info on where and how you all play dnd online?

  • @hopelessdoodles4444

    @hopelessdoodles4444

    2 жыл бұрын

    Discord servers using dice Rolling bots

  • @hopelessdoodles4444

    @hopelessdoodles4444

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or Roll20

  • @1Sky1Earth
    @1Sky1Earth2 жыл бұрын

    Literal Children

  • @LunDruid
    @LunDruid Жыл бұрын

    That's... that's not how Zen Buddhism works... like, at all! Or indeed, _any_ Buddhism! (Aside from, you know, Western-based pseudo-Eastern-spirituality stuff.) Literal children!

  • @PrincessShiloh21
    @PrincessShiloh212 жыл бұрын

    Literal children

  • @apples6684
    @apples66842 жыл бұрын

    L i t e r a l c h i l d r e n

  • @dadadajasper
    @dadadajasper2 жыл бұрын

    Lol, if you know beforehand the kid is narcissistic and incapable of seeing things from other peoples' point of view because of that you shouldn't invite them to a collaborative storytelling game. That's kinda on the OP

  • @warboss3686
    @warboss36862 жыл бұрын

    First time being this early

  • @Aaron-mq3rw

    @Aaron-mq3rw

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @VITIN1201

    @VITIN1201

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @TheRuneTail
    @TheRuneTail2 жыл бұрын

    If the dude makes promises to be better time after time but doesnt and this game has kids playing? Yea DM is garbage. It's not disdain to not let the players screw ups go cause they've been good for a month especially when they do it again and agian

  • @Ara-gq7sb
    @Ara-gq7sb2 жыл бұрын

    Literal children :__)

  • @Admiralkirk95
    @Admiralkirk952 жыл бұрын

    This guy tries to lecture about Zen buddhism despite throwing tantrums and being kinda r*pey in a game with kids, and goes full grim dark after whipping himself, with kids around? Alongside the empty promises, ya this guy doesn't sound like he's on the level at all. Being spontaneous isn't bad on it's own, but when you have to be so spontaneous all the time you need some zen buddhism to justify and cope for why you are like that all the time, then maybe you should rethink yourself.

  • @stewartthorpe2533
    @stewartthorpe25332 жыл бұрын

    I guarantee that tge CD by some white dude was by Alan Watts

  • @Lobsterwithinternet
    @Lobsterwithinternet2 жыл бұрын

    What's with people being so scared of kicking people? It's your game, guys. If you can't handle giving an obvious bully and abuser the boot, you have no business being a GM.

  • @epsilon-eleven

    @epsilon-eleven

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not everyone is confident enough to do that. Whether it's due to a past of abuse/neglect causing a "people-pleaser" mindset, or anxiety, or a fear of retaliation, or just a genuine belief that everyone means well & might just be misguided, it's not always easy for everyone to just kick someone out. Some people have compassion, some have anxiety. If have none of the former & think the latter can be easily overcome, you have no business criticising the behaviour of others.

  • @talldorf6445

    @talldorf6445

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@epsilon-eleven this, I had a player who was very much an emotional vampire, she was an okay characters she just was needy and had allot of depression. And then berates me for trying to help her with a welfare check from the police and keeps making fun of my country and personal beliefs( I'm an American, she's from the UK). I couldn't kick her, even when she decided to try to break up another players relationship and family( the self describe panromantic wanted relations with a guy that had a daughter with serious medical needs and a women who was from another country and didn't know anyone.) We just stopped talking to her. It's not the best thing, that was before my wife came into my life, and gave me a back bone. We don't know whats going on with her, I hoped she gets help.

  • @dorianleakey
    @dorianleakey3 ай бұрын

    Nothing the Monk player does shows any sign of being Buddhist. It's very ofd I mean, it's fine for white dudes to talk about zen, it's a religion, not a culture and is not inherently eastern, so assuming it's come from a Westerner and us therefore wrong is a bit silly. The issue is he is talking about learning to adapt, while refusing to do that himself.

  • @dragonfurry69
    @dragonfurry692 жыл бұрын

    Okay, the that guy was terrible, no argument; however, OP is killing me with the spelling mistakes, random capitalization, and "blind sighted". (It's "blindsided") Also, I really don't see what someone's race has to do with their understanding of Zen. Really could have just left that out.

  • @xx4444xxDOTexe
    @xx4444xxDOTexe2 жыл бұрын

    Im not defending the monk but i couldnt play with children. I dont think every campaign should be dark but not even having character death is way too baby mode. That and im playing to have fun with friends i would hate having to not make jokes because of the age of other players. Just seems like a chore imo. Maybe im alone on that one but no way i could do it

  • @screwgoogle4993

    @screwgoogle4993

    2 жыл бұрын

    Adults who still hang out with children are either creeps or manchildren themselves. It's too much of a burden, and I'm not paid to raise other people's kids. Especially their special needs children. I don't owe anyone my patience and neither do you.

  • @Lobsterwithinternet

    @Lobsterwithinternet

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@screwgoogle4993 Amen! 🙏

  • @epsilon-eleven

    @epsilon-eleven

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@screwgoogle4993 Nice stereotype, but no. You see, the majority of adults who are okay hanging out with children are either good parents, or healthy adults who have patience & understand that kids are people. And I'm saying this as someone who dislikes children. Despite the implications of all your comments, sociopathy isn't good & not everyone who thinks differently than you do has evil ulterior motives. Grow up.

  • @TheMightyBattleSquid

    @TheMightyBattleSquid

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@epsilon-eleven thank you for restoring my faith in humanity.

  • @lisastork81
    @lisastork812 жыл бұрын

    Why do these people miss that it's weird that they're playing games with little kids to begin with

  • @TheMightyBattleSquid

    @TheMightyBattleSquid

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh sorry, Mr. Gatekeeper, didn't realize playing pretend was reserved for adults 😆

  • @WhyYouMadBoi
    @WhyYouMadBoi2 жыл бұрын

    Why would you have 11 year old with a teenage to adult party of players? If you don't think its ok for this to be shown to them then don't have them in a game. Sounds like the OP issue is learning that mix aged groups don't work out. Also you got to be 13 to have a discord soooo you know

  • @xx4444xxDOTexe

    @xx4444xxDOTexe

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would be so uncomfortable if one of my dms added an 11 year old. All the kinds of jokes and themes suddenly wouldnt be at all ok and it would really kill the vibe

  • @theliminalist4429
    @theliminalist44292 жыл бұрын

    literal children

  • @findlayhannam849
    @findlayhannam8492 жыл бұрын

    Literal Children

  • @davidaustin4354
    @davidaustin43542 жыл бұрын

    Literal children

  • @elak9241
    @elak92412 жыл бұрын

    Literal children

  • @dustinstockwell6064
    @dustinstockwell60642 жыл бұрын

    Literal children

  • @sobinir7933
    @sobinir79332 жыл бұрын

    Literal children

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