I appreciate all the work you put into these.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

thank you for watching!

I took mine out first time after pulling my Nikon 223 off my ar and a quick mount job. Blew the center out of all my targets at 25 then moved to 50 and same result, with blue box federal, cci minimags and some Aguila that a friend gave me. Couldn’t be more excited about a 22. My Cz is right on the money.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you got a good one!

I too, just bought a cz457 varmint. three shots had it zero'd. and shot 5/16 and 3/8 group at 50 yds. with Eley force and SK rifle match.i am pleased as punch.it's eazy with a CZ.

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

thats good with eley force

@invictus-23peacekeeper72

Жыл бұрын

Eley Force is too fast for this barrel. did you read the manual ???

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

@@invictus-23peacekeeper72 DId YoU REEd ThE MANUal

CZ fan boy checking in and damn proud of it, R O F L!

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

hey nothing wrong with it LOL thanks for watching

I appreciate a good honest review where you see the whole target. I had two 455 varmints and they shot like your 457. I want to try again with the 457 but it seems through everything I have looked at, its a 50-50 chance on getting one to shoot MOA. There is a reason they won't offer the same guarantee they do on the MTR. The new Anschutz 1761 is getting some good reviews and like you said the Begara and even the Christensen Arms 22 coming out look to be a lot more promising. More bucks for sure but if accuracy is what you want, buy this at your own risk. Anyways, good work on the video. I've watched others of yours. Appreciate you effort,

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! i actually have a christensen arms ranger on order. since march actually so no clue when they're going to start shipping.

@texasrimfirenut

4 жыл бұрын

I have one on order as well. I was told should be around the end of July or first part of August. I paid a deposit to get in line. Picking up my Tikka T1x this evening. Your review there was most helpful as well.

I just traded some 10/22's for a new Cz 457 pro varmint and I've gotta say it seems to like to shoot any ammunition so long as it says SK on the box! a few exceptions like gold medal match and even a box of eley action shot very tight groups. funny how the same rifle can be such a picky little piggy. love your videos, you def inspired me to get a CZ!

@coreyd1474

2 жыл бұрын

22 is definitely a strange animal for sure. easy to go down the rabbit hole chasing accuracy.

Good honest review

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

thats the goal

Just bought a 457 ultra lux. Sighted in the scope last week and did some first time target shooting. I was very impressed. At 25 yds it will stack bullets on top of each other. At 50 yds they are no more than 3/4 inch apart. At 100 yards I was hitting a 2" plate every shot. I think I got a good one.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

The Lux looks good! What type of ammo are you using. Nice stuff those groups will tighten up for you for sure

@eltonarceneaux4439

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 Did you receive my reply?

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@eltonarceneaux4439 no don't think so

@eltonarceneaux4439

4 жыл бұрын

I was just sighting in the scope with cheap ammo. I think it was Winchester, bulk ammo. 550 rounds for about $50 bucks. Yes, there were bad rounds, light charges and some miss fires. But when they worked they did well. Will try again this week with CCI.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@eltonarceneaux4439 CCI standard velocity is about as good as it gets for the price you'll have to let me know how it does

I just got a 457 American Last week I was shooting Under 1 MOA @50yrds with Federal White Box ammo right after 10 shots sighting in scope. For me my gun is great.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Nice! Glad it's worked out so far

@philbiagi721

4 жыл бұрын

That under 1/2" right

Shot my 457 LUX this morning. Set up a KYL target, 5,4,3,2,,,,&1 inch targets at 50 yards. I have a bipod but I 'am controling the butt of the rifle. Using Winchester M22 bulk ammo 1000 rounds for about $50 bucks. I'am hitting the 1" target 8 out of 10 times. Than took 5 shots at 100 yards and did a 2" group . I have found the more I shoot the better it gets. I did not see these results when I first fired the rifle. I would guess I have 400 rounds through the gun now.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

several people have said their LUX shoots well!

Sorry to see your results here Corey. I just bought a CZ 457 Varmint Precision Chassis this week. In the process of getting it setup with a Magpul Bipod / Area 419 30 MOA Picatinny converter / topped with a Vortex 4-12 x 40 Diamondback scope but my barrel is only 16 inches long. Wanted to go Ruger Precision Rimfire but after seeing some quality issues on those I passed & went CZ 457. 1st bolt action rifle of ANY kind. So your review has me wondering what I'm in for.

@coreyd1474

2 жыл бұрын

you should be ok. a LOT of the cz's i see perform just fine. just like anything else you get a bad one every now and then.

Bought the T1X and tried 10 brands of ammo and the worst group at 50yards was .8" and the best was .3". Was going to buy this rifle bought was sold out and the guy at Cabelas talked me into the Tikka. 👍👍

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Lol I sold this and bought a t1x as well lol and put it in a krg chassis. It's a zillion times better in every way than the 457

Looks like you got your hands on s lemon. I really thought sk rifle match or Lapua center-x would make you happy. I really enjoy my 457s but just goes to show there like a box of chocolates.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

yep and every company has lemons. not sure why people get so upset about it lol. i shoot with many people who have 457s that shoot great. just the way she goes.

I've worked and worked with my 457 Varmint and just can't get it to be consistent from one group to the next. It'll shoot pretty good for a group or two and then goes off the rails and I've tested WAY too many types of ammo searching for an answer. All shooting off a level concrete bench too in excellent conditions with great glass. Different torque settings on the action screws, you name it. It's just not as good as the 455's and damn sure isn't as good as my Tikka T1x. It's a beautiful rifle and I begged it to perform, but in the end mine simply won't shoot. I think I got a lemon because CZ makes really good stuff.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

thats a shame to hear. they really are a nice looking rifle. Its really had to beat the tikka, i love mine.

Have you ever consider playing with the Torque setting on the action screws

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

not being rude but you're about the 19282304032403204308 person who's said that and i did, it made no difference on this particular rifle.

I bought a 457 but I got mine in .22 mag. I hope that I can avoid some of the pitfalls, or put in another way I hope it raises my chances of getting "one of the good ones". My standard . 22 is a Savage Mark II Target that I customized. I haven't shot either yet but I'm a huge Savage fan and I'm praying that both really come through for me. I'm hoping that the Savage will like a number of the off shelf . 22 ammo, and the same for the .22 mag. 🙏

@coreyd1474

2 жыл бұрын

savage has always made a good 22 i'm sure you won't be disappointed.

What is the consistent group size to make it a accurate rifle of 480 dollar and not to lemon?..., should do it just like a Vudoo, Sako, Bergara, Anschutz?.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

Well according to the wizards on the internet theirs shoots 1/9" groups at 200 yards with a 3x scope

Appreciate your video on that CZ. I believe I'll wait and get me a Tika

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

what i'd do if i were you is spend the little extra and get a bergara b14r

Did you properly mount your scope and align the reticle and do everything the correct way?

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

yep. exactly the same way i do all my other rifles.

@SAVAGE308SNIPER

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474Good. Nice. I won't talk trash now. I'll put my tail between my legs and walk away.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@SAVAGE308SNIPER haha yea. you know i never expected the response i got. i figured everyone would tell me to go kick rocks but i'd say 3-4/5 people say their 457 shoots the same way. pretty surprising.

I did a couple things on mine. Action screws 20 inch lbs. Installed bolt shims .002 to tighten up head space. Installed Yo Dave spring and lowered trigger pull to 1.5 lbs. Do you still have the gun or did you sell it?

@coreyd1474

3 ай бұрын

sold it. tried a few different action screw torques but it just made it worse. ok for a squirrel gun i guess

I have a CZ457 Provarmint. I put aluminum pillars, hardened action screws, Yodave trigger spring, area 419 30 moa rail, DIP large bolt knob, opened the barrel channel and it shoot .25" groups @ 50yds with Wolf Match Extra, .25-.325" with SK Rifle Match, and .325-.5" with SK Standard Plus. But mine only has a 16.5" varmint and the shorter, fatty barrels are pretty rigid and usually not as sensitive to different ammunition as a longer barrel. 25in/lbs is pretty low for CZ most people get theirs to shoot the best at 35-45in/lbs but I wouldn't exceed 50in/lbs as the screws will strip. Mine likes being at 40-45in/lbs

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

have a hard time believing action screw torque settings make that much of a difference. glad yours shoots well after all that work though.

@alexspencer8904

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 you're right it wont change the group a lot but I've seen about 0.25"' difference. I was talking to my local rifle builder that mods CZ's at a rimfire match and I was asking him what he sees with accuracy stock vs. his mod (he threads the reciever and barrel for more reliable headspacing and uses premium barrel blanks) and he said his went from shooting 0.5"-1" stock to shooting .25"-.5" after his work. So maybe I got lucky with mine but I have seen other Provarmints shoot very well. I will say the boyd Provarmint stock is pretty flexible and will soon be replaced with a KRG Bravo when it comes out.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexspencer8904 i think its just a little disappointing that you have to do so much work to get it to shoot acceptable. But it is what it is, still fun to get out and shoot and mess with settings. hard to complain.

I know from personal experience, Eley should be laser beam out of CZ, I use 455 with YoDave trigger kit and Eley Sport, Eley Club too, off the bipod really impressive groups under half inch at 50 opens out to .600 at100yards very quiet with moderator, Foxes hate this little gun! Solely for hunting!

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

yea it wasn't good. i sold it.

how much are you asking for the gun and the mount?

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

I already sold it.

I am glad to see that somebody else is having trouble with their CZ. I got 3 CZ 455 that shoot just as bad! I've always heard nothing but good things about them but I will never buy another. I will stick with my Anschutz rifles or my Winchester 52c

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Yep as I said in the video I paid my own money for all of it and obviously want it to shoot and don't want to piss off the cz crowd but results speak for themselves. Actually just got a Tikka t1x mtr mated with a krg all put together and weather permitting gonna get it out for the first time tomorrow

Cory, I have a question. Didn't you say the red dot on the target was 1/2" in Dia.? So for example on the SK red box target, the bottom target you had labeled 1.84", is that correct? I guess, it seemed odd to me when the target is labeled as 1.5" target and you shot well within the target but stating it is 1.84". Am I reading the target incorrectly?

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

yes you are correct the red dot in the center was slightly larger than half an inch. i read it somewhere on their website but when i actually measured it later after all this shooting it was more.

What is the name of your picatiny rail mounted over the 11 mm dovetail? It's very nice one.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

i can't remember what they call it but its made by area 419

I've had the same issues with my first MTR, and my gunsmith give me a replacement and send it back to CZ, the new one is much better!

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

i may have to do the same if i don't sell it soon.

I picked up a 457 American 22 Lr. in February and it shoots the same as yours. Like crap. My 455 on the other hand shoots amazing. And that's with CCI standard. Like night and day.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Hey good thing is they take 455 barrels right?

Good video and info.. A honest review is always appreciated by myself so don’t sweat no bandwagon fan boys. Tell it like it is.. We all gotta hold companies accountable good or bad, no matter how much we like them!! I like my 452 and it shoots much better with bulk ammo then what you got there, so I think you got a bad one man and I’d have to send that back to cz. Lol.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. I hate watching videos of people who cherry pick ammo so their rifle shoots it good. Like you said you have to be honest about it especially when you're paying for it all yourself. Not sure where they went wrong but 452 and 455 pretty much all shoot well. My the majority of comments have been people saying theirs shoots equally as bad as this. I didn't really wanna put a ton of work in to it or mess around with sending it back to cz so I sold it and bought a Tikka t1x mtr. That was a solid decision the Tikka is the best 22 I've shot

@bearkawiboy6246

4 жыл бұрын

Corey D Can’t blame you on that, sometimes it’s better to cute your loses instead of wasting your time.. Yeah I think CZ makes fantastic firearms period but looks like they are too in a hurry getting these 457 out the door before they were ready... Man I’m Glad you put your 2 cents in on the tikka. I was just looking up some videos on it.. So far I can’t find a bad review or opinion of it yet. Looks like it may be my next decision... Not sure if you got any vids on it yet but if you don’t feel free to let us know how it’s shooting for ya

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@bearkawiboy6246 totally agree cut my losses on that one. A buddy of mine has a 455 trainer and it shoots well. I did two videos similar to this on the Tikka if you want to watch should be on my channel. The action and trigger on the Tikka is flat out awesome. Glad I found one in stock.

I'm absolutely shocked! I don't have a CZ457 but have 2 CZ452's, several Anschutz of all kind, all the way from several thousand dollar ones to the sporting hunting models (All model 54's) and a couple of 10/22's, with heavy aftermarket barrels and other component. All my Anschutz shoot great but for the best bang for the buck my money is on the CZ. The only thing I could say is check your action screws and the last thing is maybe somehow you got a lemon! I don't think CZ screw things up, but its a possibility.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

yea i know cz makes great stuff, getting a lemon happens from time to time.

Watched your video. I'm confused on your target and groups. Next to each target it shows its 1.5". Yet your groups are inside the outer ring and your have them measured larger than the 1.5" . I'm confused?

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

yea i'm confused too

I'll post some comparisons with the two my next trip to the range. You'll see what I mean.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Yea let me know!

Does CZ still put a test fire target in the box with the gun? If so, what'd that look like? Last 455 I bought had a target with a 3 or 5 shot group. I built a 10/22 that out shot my 455 by a huge margin, so I ditched the CZ. Almost wanted a 457 until I saw this review.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

No there was no test target in this one. Probably because they were ashamed LOL I bought a Tikka t1x mtr and it's amazing. Look at those

@CrazyEvo5

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man I got a test fire target in the box with my 457 varmint in 22WMR. It had a .5 MOA 5 shot group using CCI 40 grain @ 50 yards. Hornady, CCI and Winchester ammo all shoot great out of my rifle. After reading all the comments on here Ill chalk my win up as good luck. @Corey D man did you ever shoot that CZ suppressed before you got rid of it?

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@CrazyEvo5 no it doesn't have a threaded barrel.

@Asghaad

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 or the retailer you got it from had it as return when pissed off customer returned the lemon to them and they just resold it to you ... as far as i know CZ puts test target they do with every firearm into the package, if its not there then something fishy is going on.

I have the 457 pro varmint with 16 inch threaded heavy barrel and it is putting that gun to shame with aguilla rifle match competion ammo so far its putting all my other 22lr guns to shame.

@pwn3426

4 жыл бұрын

careful bro or he is gonna call u a filthy cz fan boy, rofl.

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

you filthy cz fan boy, rofl

I’ve owned the 452 & 453 rifles in 22LR & .17HMR. I purchased one that absolutely would not shoot anything accurately with anything. My experience with CZ is that if it won’t shoot Wolf MT consistantly well then you have a problem. After eliminating all the variables on my end I sent it back to Cz. They shot it and came to the same conclusion that I did and they sent me a new rifle to replace it. They don’t try to determine what the issue is that causes inaccuracy. Once they verify it they just replace it if it’s within the warranty period. I love CZ products but I am not a blind fanboy. CZ produces a turd from time to time. It happens. Fanboys seem to have their personal masculinity tied to a brand name and are personally insulted if their brand is criticized. Brands like CZ & Glock have some tenaciously loyal customers that cannot handle criticism of their pet.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

yea i agree. people get super butt hurt when someone shows bad results. as i stated i buy all of my own guns/ammo so i want them to perform. you'd be surprised how mad people get about 22 accuracy. oh and i forgot "my 38 year old marlin shoots 1/10 inch groups at 200 yards" guys are my favorite.

@Plainsimple67

2 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 HAS TO BE THE MICROGROOVE BORE OF THAT MARLIN, NEVER HEARD THAT LEVEL OF ACCURACY OUT OF THEM AT THAT DISTANCE!!🤯

@coreyd1474

2 жыл бұрын

@@Plainsimple67 yea something not right thats for sure.

@Plainsimple67

2 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 ITS A GOOD THING, THAT'S FOR SURE!!! SUPER ACCURATE. 😉👉

Was the barrel touching the barrel channel?

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

it wasn't.

I think the big groups might have something to do with the parallax of the scope -- you might not get rid of the parallax. My Ruger 10/22 could shoot better with some of the ammo.

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

What is the mount. I like it. Fits great

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

Its an area 419 rail with vortex pro series rings

Well that just sucks Corey. While I understand your frustrations, taking a bit more time with it may have improved many of those issues. It took a good while before I learned my 455 to shoot .8 or less consistently. At first, my 457 didn't do so well either. Then I learned that I didn't need to torque action screws when either bedded or pillared. Fixed my issues right away. With and without bi-pod and/or cheap/expensive ammo too. And no, I'm not like the other CZ fanboys who shoot 1/8 groups at a 100 yards. I'm much better at 1/16... Kidding aside, just as you took the time working with your other rifle, maybe the same should have gone into your CZ. Also, your groups weren't bad for a standard non-match barrel. What a lot of these you tube commenters forget to mention is that they likely modified their CZ to the point the only thing CZ is the action. Anyway, I wish you would've had a better experience and got your money back. Good day and good shooting.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

thanks for the input! glad to hear a positive comment for once. You're right about people on the internet, everyone's rifle shoots 1/32" at 150 yards and you know nothing about shooting because your rifle doesn't shoot well. not kidding i have to thumb through those comments all day. who knew such negativity around 22 lr videos? Anyway, i sold this and ended up buying a tikka t1x mtr and it is MUCH better. not even close. Action, trigger, accuracy all much better.

Can’t even begin to explain that. I got exactly the same rifle and even with a muppet like me holding it, it’ll return 1/4” at 25 yds and a gnats over 1/2” at 50 using Blazer. It takes rabbits out every time I pull the trigger (off tripod) and my p.b. was paced out at 104m I think that one needs to go back to CZ.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

yea i shoot with plenty of folks who have 457 and they shoot very well, just got a lemon. it happens

You should take a look at the crown with a bore scope

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Sold if and bought a Tikka t1x mtr. It's a thousand times better

Well that sux. My 455 had results like that with Winchester. But the remaining 27 brands shot, on average, .5 MOA or less. RWS Sub, SK Std, Eley HV, and Fed GS were the top ammo coming in at around .275 @ 50yrds. Wish you would've had better experience.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Yea I just got one that didn't perform because cz as a whole is much better for sure. Glad you're seeing results from yours. It is nice the 457 will take the 455 barrel thought

My new CZ457 Varmint didn't like any ammo either. I tried four different brands to no avail. All my targets are at 100 yards. My best croups were about 2 inches. I sent it back to have CZ look at it. They replaced the barrel. I have yet to see if it is any better. My Savage 93r17 was very good at sub MOA, until I shot the barrel out.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

don't let the cz fanbois see you said your cz didn't shoot either they'll yell at you on the intenet for being a terrible shooter LOL. you'll have to let me know if its any better when you get it back. approximately how many rounds did it take to shoot out that 17 barrel? had to have been a ton.

@phillb9

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 I tested it today. I had three 5 shot groups at one inch. My two 3 shot groups were ⅜ inch. I am using Hornady 17gr BT ammo. It probably shoots better than that because I can't shoot. LOL I shot at least 4000 rounds through the savage. The last three years I've gone through a thousand a year. squirrel-cong

@phillb9

3 жыл бұрын

The targets were at 100 yards. I install the Yo Dave trigger spring to bring the trigger pull down to one pound.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

@@phillb9 honestly its a lot harder than most folks think to shoot well without a lead sled. even tho everyone on the internet that comments on my videos can shoot 1/8 inch groups at 100 with their 59 year old marlin with 3x scope LOL

@L.V-Rider

Жыл бұрын

​@@coreyd1474 Where are their prove or is it school children playing shooting games on their play-station.

I just picked up an identical used one at a gun shop with that exact base and bolt handle. Hope I didn't yours!

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

yea hopefully it shoots better for sure.

Sorry, I think I just answered my own question. You wrote down MOA on the target. Thanks good video.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

What is your cleaning regiment?

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Normally just when I start to notice a reduction in accuracy

@gspgsp100

4 жыл бұрын

So you're cleaning every time you shoot this rifle?!? Seeing how there hasn't been any accuracy

Bigly Bummer

That's a shame. I have three CZ and they all shoot better than me. Did you contact CZ?

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

no i didn't wan't to mess with having to send it back and them do nothing. ended up just selling it.

Try moving your front scope ring further from the turret . I just swapped scopes and installed like you are in the vid . The rifle was terrible . Researched it and found mounting scope too close to turret, ocular or objective can cause issues . I tried it with much improvement

@coreyd1474

9 ай бұрын

i have MANY MANY scopes mounted like that plus seen tons of top shooters have similar set ups. thats not the problem.

I like your reviews, but have some reservations about them, and some of the comments. First, the 457 Varmint has the 20.5 inch barrel, correct? Also you seem to compare this model a lot with the Ruger Precision with 18 inch barrel... so I'm wondering how either would compare to the CZ 457 American with the 24.8 inch barrel. Also too, I wonder about the bullet velocity and either barrels "rate of twist" or "Rifling" but I see they are both the same @ 1:16. And the 457 American is the same also. I have a Ruger 10/22 with a Green Mountain bull barrel, chambered for the CCI Stinger ( slightly longer case ) and it shoots pretty much along the lines of what either of these do in your reviews. I would like to know how/why you seem to measure the results differently in this review than in the Ruger Precision Ammo part 1 and 2... i.e. I am looking at Eley Target and seeing only one of the groups over 2.0 yet you indicate AVG 3.47 ... is that a "projection" of the results at 100 yards? If so, why not shoot it at 100 yard? Anyway... it's all good stuff... I am still trying to decide to bu a CZ 457 American or Ruger Precision, very close in price on Davidson's. I'm a Ruger fan but have seen reviews on the CZ, that compare it to the Anschütz .22 LR and .22 Magnum, at a much, much higher price point. Also a tip... check out gunbot.net to see a listing for comparison of ammo available and different ways to select ( i.e. price per round or by brand ) with links to the seller/distributor.

@jaxrcexplorer

4 жыл бұрын

@Phix I finally decided... I purchased the Ruger Precision Rimfire in .22 WMR. I am very pleased. I put my Vortex 6-24x50 FFP scope on it... and I'm getting about a 1 inch group at 200 yards... not a typo... at 200 yards! It shoots the 30 grain "Varmint" ( Hornady/CCI ) better... but does amazing with the very affordable Federal 40 grain FMJ truncated too! Great trigger pull, down to 2.25 lbs ( I believe ) ... I paid plenty for new triggers on my 10/22 and Gunsite Scout to achieve what comes "stock" on the new Precision rifle... With 15 round magazine it was about $385 ( US ) at Davidson's. ( Scope and mount cost more! )

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

i love your comments but i have lots of reservations about them

@jaxrcexplorer

Жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 Ok... 🤔

I tried about 25 different types out of my 457. I must admit I was hoping for better also but my results weren't quite so bad. I imagine you sold it by now.

@coreyd1474

Ай бұрын

oh you better not say that out loud. the CZ fan bois will be all over you. hitting you with a barrage of comments about action torque screw settings and how you just suck as a shooter LOL

I am not sure how you are calculating MOA. If those targets are 1.5 inches in diameter then at 50 yards the target's diameter is 3 MOA (MOA at 50 yards being 1/2 inch). All of your groups appear to be much smaller than the MOA you calculated. Am I missing something?

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

I am three years late, and maybe you don't even have the rifle anymore. I have found that when I get a new rifle it is usually filthy in the bore. You said you ran a bore snake through it 5 times. I would thoroughly clean the barrel. I use JB bore paste with a good CLP or gun oil. This has the effect of lapping the barrel, and with these less expensive rifles the factory does not hand lap them. Looks like you are correctly seasoning the barrel before shooting groups for each ammo. Perhaps shoot indoors at 25 yards with a rest to start. All CZ 457s come with the same action and trigger, so adjust your trigger as low as you can get it because trigger pull weight will affect your accuracy. Perhaps put in a YoDave trigger spring. Maybe take it to a gunsmith and measure headspace. Perhaps shim the barrel to tighten up the chamber a bit. Play around with action screw torque. Lastly, maybe swap out the barrel for an MTR barrel or aftermarket match barrel.

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

perhaps i will.

Maybe you shoud bore brush, spray wd 40 to loosen lead flakes inside the bore, ive done that before, and then rolled piece of tissue in the brush, make sure its tight inside the barrel and scrub it ang large lead flakes came out later.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

never used wd40 on a barrel before maybe i'll give that a shot.

25 ft/lb or 25 in/lb ?

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

inch pounds

So did you get it shooting any better? I’ve got a 457 pro varmint 16” and a 455 varmint... both are shooting .3’ish at 50 with the SK rifle match. The other one worth trying is the SK pistol special (bright green box).

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

i doubt your gun is shooting single hole groups every time you take it out.

@Mrtjw

4 жыл бұрын

​@@coreyd1474 Not what I'm saying. Specifically under the right conditions, it can reasonably consistently print around .3-.4" groups at 50 yards (which is decent, but not mind blowing by any means). Why Im asking is, I don't know if it's a difference between the barrel lengths, action torque settings, variations in manufacturing or just the batch of the ammo... So I was interested to hear how you were getting on with it.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mrtjw i've had a lot of people talk about how much of a difference the torque setting on the action screws in their cz. that wasn't the case for me i tried several different pound settings and it made zero difference for me. worth a try for you though.

@lucabrasi5070

4 жыл бұрын

Tim Williamson , my 457 Varmint shoots about the same as yours, if I do my part and use good ammo. Corey got a bad one, unfortunately.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucabrasi5070 I will in no means claim I'm a great shooter but I go through the same list when I shoot this gun of any of my other guns. Which I buy, and the results speak for themselves. Sure if I was a champion shooter the groups would be smaller but they would be smaller with all of my guns not just this one

Yea that rifle either has a bad crown or a burr in the rifling. I've got more than one 452's and my son has a 455 and they all shoot bug holes at 50. Now a couple of them are picky when it comes to ammo but they will shoot with the right stuff. The rest of them will shoot with anything.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

yea i shoot with a few poeple who have 457s and they shoot very well. just got a lemon, it happens.

I still can't believe the inaccuracy with a 24.8" barrel that's on the 457.

@zacmcgowan3079

4 жыл бұрын

Stanley Klimek I’m looking to buy one in 17 hmr you think it would be a better option

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

Hope you got it fixed.

@coreyd1474

4 ай бұрын

yea fixed it alright, sold it. that did the trick lol

Lol i doubt you would see those groups at 150 yards haha. Sk standard and match and long rifke match sk should group well. Try rws. Also i have a browning tbolt. And shoot skt standard and match as well as rws. I also insert a piece of no compressable shim between forend of stock bottom of barrel. And it tightens groups. You can also move the upward pressure onto barrel if you have to. Give it a go bud and let us know. Might be surprissed???

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

I sold it and bought a Tikka t1x and it's MUCH better. No these aren't suppressed, the barrel isn't threaded

I believe your MOA average for the Eley Target ammo is off. Your average is stated as 3.47 MOA, while I’m getting an average of 1.738 using the group size numbers you provided and dividing by 5 since you have 5 groups.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

yea i'm sure you're right i was probably drunk when i said that LOL

I’ve owned three 455 and three 457 in different models all shot average or below! my BRNO series and 452 and 453 easily average.250 and are capable of .0## It’s the rifle! Sadly it’s a gamble buying mass production units but if you get a good one there impressive.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

yep agreed. i think most of them are good though

My 457 Varmint MTR with 20 inch barrel is very accurate. I shoot playcards in half in 1 shot at 30m. Excellent groups at 50m. I can't do better with the Tikka T1X MTR and with the Ruger Precision Rimfire. And it's not ammo sensitive. I got the best results with Eley sports, but even cheap ammo like CCI standard does very well.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

its funny you say that because i sold it to buy a tikka t1x mtr and its MILES ahead of the 457. i can cut playing cards consistently at 100 yards with it easily. glad you're getting good results with yours though!

@Morpheus02000

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 I'm from Belgium and the ones we get all are with threaded barrels. I didn't tried cutting cards at 50m and you're speaking of 100m? I have a Bushnell Throphy 6-18x40 high contrast scope on it. Maybe I can do it at 50m or more, I should try it.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@Morpheus02000 misewell try it!

@Morpheus02000

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 I've seen your other video now. The Tikka is a very good gun. I shot also with the Tikka T3X RH TAC A1 in .223 and it's a very good and precise rifle, a bit expensive tho with a price of 2400€. The Tikka's, Ruger's and CZ's are in every gunstore here in Belgium. You said you had to order yours by Cabela's? I always need to hold the rifle in my hand before I buy it. But we can't buy firearms on the internet and let them deliver it on our doorstep. To crazy gunlaws here in Belgium. We can buy a .338 lapua magnum and immediately take it home, just like any lever-action, bolt-action, double barrel shotgun no matter which caliber. But a .22lr revolver is with a permit and we have to wait 3 months. A .22lr pistol we also can take immediately home with a Sports Shooter Licence. My Sig p226 LDC in 9mm is also with a permit. Really strange laws here...

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@Morpheus02000 you are right its a bit expensive and the stock it comes with from the factory is trash. I actually didn't order it they happened to have ONE in stock and that was the only one within a few hour drive of my house. Also, we can order them off the internet but they don't ship to your door it has to be shipped to a dealer where you go and then do the background check and all that. LOL thats pretty funny about being able to take home anything but a 22lr pistol. just goes to show you how stupid the people are who make the laws.

You may need to check headspace you may need to shim the bolt just a thought :)

@coreyd1474

9 ай бұрын

have to let whoever owns it now know lol

You need to tell us the distance you shot at. Those groups look like 100yds.

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

@Sven126

Жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 So......?

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

@@Sven126 so if you had bothered to scroll down about two mouse rolls you would see the description. have a great day!

May just need to keep running more rds thru it.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

yea possibly.

I would send it back

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

sold. not worth the time energy or money on this pos

Swap scopes and true the scope, and if that doesn't work, I'd send it back to the factory. It must do better than that.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

yea i tried the whole action screw torque thing because apparently it works for everyone else. i sold it and bought a tikka t1x

Verygood

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

My friend, try cci stinger.. i have a 457 cz and it takes the cci stinger best for me. Give it a shot and see if it makes the different.

@coreyd1474

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching.

@L.V-Rider

Жыл бұрын

What is the obsession with stingers? It is inaccurate in most rifles and I don't like them.

Try this last thing. I got a 455 and shot about the same. Loosen off barrel screws and evenly torque screws to 25" lbs. I know thats a tad bit out of spec but it truly turned mine into a tac driver. Should you have to do this after spending your hard earned money on a new rifle? No you shouldn't, but lets face it we live in a throw away nation were the cost high or low vary rarely means anything anymore. Simply put, we no longer get what we pay for. Good luck to you sir.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

i tried a few different torque setting on the action screws because thats what everyone said. nothing worked. i just have a hard time believing a few lbs of torque will make that much of a difference. rather than mess around sending it back to cz i just sold it.

@accuracyfreaks442

4 жыл бұрын

I was actually referring to the set screws that hold the barrel in the receiver. They effect the harmonics of the barrel. Mine come from factory set one at 60"lbs and other 40"lbs. This uneven torque made my rifle shoot consistently 3 in one hole and 2 out of my groups. I to played with action screw torque on mine and experienced very little improvement. Anyway i wish luck in the future and thanks for the informative video

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@accuracyfreaks442 ah gotcha. yea that makes sense. mine were torqued so tight i had to heat them up to loosen them and broke 2 bits. just all around bad luck with this thing lol

@lucabrasi5070

4 жыл бұрын

Corey D , I’ve heard a lot of people say their grub screws were way over tightened. It has been shown that over tightening these screws will deform the chamber. It’s a shame that CZ has such poor quality control at the factory.

My 2 457 love sk red at 100yd never mind 50. 10 shot groups 1 ragged hole with 3 flyers about 1/2 in out

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

yea skrm is my go to.

Try different action torque specs 15 inch pounds I got a CZ buddy that shooting 40 inch pounds. 25 inch pounds might be company standard but doesn’t mean that’s what you’re Gun likes. Start out with one of your more preferred ammo choices and at around 15 inch pounds and work up stopping around 35-40.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

tried sever and it made zero difference.

Most CZ rifles I’ve own have to be bedded in the rear and about an inch from receiver under the barrel

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

shouldn't have to do that to a rifle that costs as much as cz's do IMO.

Any distribution of factory made rifles will follow a bell shaped curve for accuracy. Actually, I probably should say barrel as the rest of the rifle doesn't count for much except the trigger. A few will be great, a few will be awful and the majority will be somewhere in between. When you pay more, like for an Annie, you are getting quality control that weeds out the worst of them. With a $500 rifle you roll the dice.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

yep agreed

I have almost that exact set-up but without the Area 419 bolt knob and my scope is a Nikon Black FX 1000 4-16x50. Same rings and same Area 419 pic rail and unfortunately the SAME results. I shot CCI Green Tag (only because my old Ruger 10/22 with an aftermarket bull barrel loves it) Federal Gold Medal, Geco Match 22 LR and Wolf Extra Match. 1st time out was off bags and a rest, yesterday was with a bipod and then off the heavy rest. No difference, it sucked and I'm pretty pissed. I'm going to pull it apart and check the torque of the screws but otherwise I WILL dump it. At 50 yards my chrome lined AR's will shoot better that this rifle.

@billcasanova9492

4 жыл бұрын

So I took the rifle apart, stock, scope, mounts and all. I used a Wheeler Torque driver and reassembled it to spec. It seems the stock was not where it should have been. Went to the range and what a difference. It was very windy but I did get 5 shots of Wolf Match Extra into one ragged hole at 50 yards. I am a happy man with a changed rifle.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@billcasanova9492 thats good it made a difference for you but made no difference for me. i sold it quite some time ago. got a tikka t1x mtr. its one thousand times better

My 457 varmint with meopta zd 4x16rd shoot one hole at 50m.

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

no it doesnt

Well, that’s a drag. I don’t blame you for wanting to dump it. Check out the Tikka T1x. Most reviewers say they’re getting sub-moa groups at 50 yards.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

i think i'm going to try to dump it and use the money towards the new bergara b-14r thats coming out mid to late this month.

@lucabrasi5070

4 жыл бұрын

Corey D looking forward to the Bergera video, when you get it. I’m glass bedding my 457 Varmint next week.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucabrasi5070 MSRP is like 1100 gonna be hard to swallow that much for a 22

@lucabrasi5070

4 жыл бұрын

Corey D yes it is. That’s why I had mentioned the Tikka T1x. About the same as the CZ 457. Very accurate.

@lucabrasi5070

4 жыл бұрын

If I’m at that kind of money, I’d just be looking for a used Annie.

That's shit . Mine both shoot 1/2 inch groups . Is your crown damaged . Was your bore clean

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

nothing is wrong with it i think its just a lemon

@davidpyper82

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 did you sell it ? Yeah definitely something up with it bud

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidpyper82 yea i sold it. i mean its a good quality gun you can tell its built nice but for what i do i am looking for something that shoots better. for plinking or hunting or whatever this is just fine.

@davidpyper82

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 I'd have got rid to love my groups

I called CZ USA about the accuracy issues with my 457 and they basically shrugged it off and suggested I try better ammo. I'm going to call them again.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

yea i wasn't about to go through sending it back. i just sold it. bought a tikka t1x and that was a good decision.

CZ rifles are not anymore what they have been in 60's. (Mod. 452) To get one which is shooting good is dependent on "luck of the draw". I did get two CZ 455 and bullet dispersion on factory target is 31 mm and 27mm on varmint at 50 meters using RWS ammo. At the range I did find one CZ 457 having dispersion on factory target 19 mm. Buying match ammo will not solve problem with accuracy . Maybe changing barrel may do it . Maybe ??? My Ruger 10/22 shoot better than that and using CCI BLAZER ammo.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

a lot of people have said theirs shoots like mine does. i didn't really feel like checking 1000 different action screw torque settings and messing any more with it. you get the gist its not going to perform well without work. i sold it. bout a tikka t1x mtr and have a christensen arms ranger on order.

@fredvancek4387

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 Buying different rifle , it was the right thing to do. Time and money spent on CZ to make it shoot right... match trigger assy. bedding , barrel replacement and testing and using thousand rounds of ammo... even buying high price Anschutz is a better deal.

I really appreciate the honest review (hard to get on yt these days). I'm like you when i get a rifle it should have decent accuracy out of the box. I was really leaning hard for the 457 American in 22 mag, but it seems to me they have lost somethig. I have the 455 17hmr/ 22lr combo and in 22lr it shoots very accurate. I guess i will look elsewhere for my 22mag. Any suggestions? I want a gun that looks good too or i would just get another Savage! Thanks again for the videos.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

I dunno man that's a hard question to answer I do understand that I probably got a lemon. Having said that I've owned a few savage rimfires and none of them were this bad and my rprf is very good. Cz has a reputation for accuracy for a reason so I guess it all comes down to how much you want to spend on the gun and how much you want to spend on ammo, ya know?

@brianwest5348

4 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 thanks for the reply. I like cz, but I have seen others not get great accuracy from the 457. I guess they are hit or miss!!!!

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@brianwest5348 yea then they must be. I waited a month to get this one and had planned to put it in a chassis and be done with it. IMO definitely not worth the wait or the money.

@jasonoconnor9446

4 жыл бұрын

Try a Lithgow.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@jasonoconnor9446 bought a Tikka t1x mtr waiting for parts then I'll dona video

MOA is MOA 1/60 of a degree.

@Asghaad

4 жыл бұрын

if the calculator he uses assumes the range is 100 he is correct to double the result

@rmm2424

4 жыл бұрын

@@Asghaad no MOA is MOA no matter the distance. Its an angle it goes forever.

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

moa is moa. genius

U R moving the camera too much , but tx for the review

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

yea i started using my tripod to shoot videos. thanks for watching

I don't understand what you mean by Ballistic-X not taking in consideration that MOA for .22 is 1/2 inch. MOA is the same, doesn’t matter what caliber it is. For .17 , .22 all the way to .50 and bigger.

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

@L.V-Rider

Жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 "Thanks for watching" does not answer my question.

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

@@L.V-Rider ok!

Eley Target is the second cheapest ammo they make. it's still about $65 for 500 today, in 2022. the best for the CZ 457, I have two Varmint Trainers, is the Eley Tenex and the Eley Match. I consistently shoot sub .35 at 50 yards. I shoot matches and at 50 yards, I hit the 1/4" circle 97% of the time with Match and Tenex. remember also that not all lots are the same. also, you should NEVER put any ammo above 1120fps in a match, or Benz barrel like the higher end CZs. if you think Target is expensive, you'll faint at the Tenex price, $195 for a brick of 500, plus tax, shipping and the $25 fee the FFL dealer charges. to train, I use Eley Club, $80 for a brick

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

ok

Judging by your video, I would say something is wrong with scope. the groups aren't really that bad, but should be better, and there is always the possibilities that you just had a real bad shooing day, That happens.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

i had it it several more times and it doesn't shoot any better.

I've been tempted, thinking about buying one, but even the ones that shoot better than yours are still not that great. Nice trigger, bull barrel free floated, hammer forged, but I've seen Marlin glenfields shoot better. Gonna keep looking.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

there is definitely better options out there than this.

@stevedouglas5443

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreyd1474 did you check the torque on the barreled action? Maybe CZ is not checking for quality control like they should. It's guns like yours that bring them down. I've been eyeballing a varmint model, but first and foremost it needs to be effing accurate.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevedouglas5443yea tried a few different settings, didn't really seem to help. i shoot with several cz's that are lights out. things like this just happen every now and then.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevedouglas5443 no i did not. if you're in the market for something save up a little longer and get a bergara b14r. you will be happy you spent the extra money, trust me.

I would send the rilfe back, I've a cz 452 ultra lux and I'm shooting 1/4 inch groups 5 shots with cci subs

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

yea i totally believe every time you go out with your old cz that your consistently shoot groups the diameter of the bullet.

@1982seamus

4 жыл бұрын

Dont really care if u believe me or not to be honest and it's not a old rilfe bought it brand new 18 months ago and yes in Ireland there is still new ones, hard to find and I didn't say every time, done a trigger job and few other things to make it shoot better

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@1982seamus yea no i get it but i get about 10 people a week saying my rifle shoots 1/4 inch blah blah blah. what trigger you put in it?

@1982seamus

4 жыл бұрын

It was a rimfire magic spring, I was going to buy a 457 sane as yours until I watched your video so I bought a tikka instead 22lr lol and love the videos lad, been watching u from the start almost

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

@@1982seamus man i gotta say, more people say theirs shot the same as mine than said theirs performed well. i was pretty surprised to be honest. i have a christensen arms ranger 22 on order i'm super anxious to get in. they guarantee sub moa accuracy but i'm skeptical of that.

Посмотрел.хорошо спасибо.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

I think youre right

You really sound disappointed with this CZ. Haha but I understand what you're saying from the groupings you showed us. If you have to shoot expensive ammo to get decent groupings that is pretty bad. Just a let down for CZ. Also I have never seen that shiny label on that eley target box yet. Kinda cool. I have the full yellow color boxes. Lastly, as always I enjoyed your video. Keep them coming.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Yea man all the videos I see and people talk about how their second to none, I'd rather shoot my rprf all day long. Thanks for the input !!

I have never seen a CZ shoot like that. Send it back to CZ USA for a checkup.

@coreyd1474

Жыл бұрын

not worth the time money and effort. sold it long ago.

Ouch . . . . This barrel should have gone to the CZ Auto Supplies Division. It was supposed to be an auto jack handle. Seriously, I've never seen a CZ perform this poorly and I've sold at least one hundred over the years. I sold 25 to a local club which supplies them for Boy Scot Merit Badge qualifications, Woman On Target, and other miscellaneous public shoots. They all still shoot well and I've only had to repair one in ten years. Now, I'm retired and just purchased a 457 for 'shits and grins.' Still in Commiefornia 10 day waiting period.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

yea i shoot with a lot of guys who have cz and they perform well. just got a lemon.

I’m looking at your scope mounting and my opinion is to use scope rings that fit the CZ 11mm grooves. You can get them with different heights if you like your scope mounted that high. Make sure to try a trusted scope you have also. Im a big fan of the longer barrels on 22LR rifles. I have two that shoot soooo good even at 100 yards. CZ 452 and a old school cool Weatherby semi auto.The 452 has my Leupold 3x9 on it and the Weatherby has a Weatherby 4 power 22LR scope. Good luck and enjoy.

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

Like they say.....must b a "Friday" product .....LOL

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

oh for sure lol

Something is wrong, something is loose, parallex is off. Something. I usually think CZ is overrated. But at 50 yards, CZ, Savage, Tikka, rifles in that range should all shoot the majority of groups at 50 yds. in the .5" range.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

according to the geniuses on here the problem is me, but i can average .3-.4s in my other rifles. yea i mean i messed with the action screw torque settings and that made no difference. sold it and got a t1x, its miles better.

Get Whistlepig barrel and turn it 17 mach 2 drive tacks

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

can you still find mach 2 ammo?

The 17hmr would probably be a better choice

@coreyd1474

3 жыл бұрын

agreed

Bad barrel, chamber or rifling. I'd contact CZ as this is not typical.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

i went ahead and sold it.

CZ 457 is a better rile than this. Could be incorrect parallax adjustment or barreo-stock contact.Get a high power scope, have a friend who is a good shot shoot it with you.

@coreyd1474

4 жыл бұрын

Na I've done just about everything there is to do. It's just not accurate. I think that if I have no problem getting 1/4 out of my other rifles the problem might not be me.

@markr831

3 жыл бұрын

Could be angular tilt of the moon too. Come on dude watch the video.