Review of Tech YES City Video - $0 Perfection and with Super X-Fi 80s Mic!

@happyloaf

4 жыл бұрын

Are you so still a fan of the super xfi? I really like it but many seem to hate it.

Fantastic review, i appreciate it! Just ordered one :)

Your recent audio videos are killing it especially the charts. More reviewers need to come with objective data.

the 7.1 support was what got me. and really does sound amazing, most reviewers look at this for its headphone abilities, but I havent used it that way once ha

Tech Yes City Accessories :D... Gotta love your review besides your project :D

Tech Yes City in the house!

Another brilliant PSA on hearing and audio!

@MarcoGPUtuber

4 жыл бұрын

That's right! It's a PSA on a Proper Sound Accessory!

Great video, many thanks :D

Can confirm watching this video on a certified Dolby amp and a 5.2 setup, the Surround setting was much better than I ever thought it would be.

The X3 is a no-brainer purchase when you're looking for better sound, it's the best little audio gadget I've had in years, it has so many settings and features to play with plus it has Creative's new Super X-FI technology! And with "SXFI Gen2" (which comes as a free X3 firmware update for all owners) it has become even better and Creative is already working on "SXFI Gen3"! Thumbs up!

I may have found my DAC/ADC for recording audio. Thank you Bryan. (:

Back around 2003 I had an Audigy 2 Sound Blaster card with decent Creative speakers. Honestly the software was a little bit buggy but the sound it put out was amazing and it used to blow my friends away as nobody really used a PC as a sound system back then. I haven't used a dedicated sound card for years now but if you go down that route the results are awesome

Just upgraded my Creative Rx Audigy 5 into Creative X3, lovely upgrade.

Question: Lets say I already plugged in my 5.1 speaker, then i decided to plug in my headphone (without unplug the 5.1 speaker), does it auto switch the sound channel to my headphones or do I need to do it manually? You also mention it reset EQ and Super Xfi to default after it was turn off, does it reset even though in Creative command you already switch it on? does the Creative command setting reset as well? Thanks in advance

Tech yes thumbnail master :)

Just watched your review! Thanks for sharing, I have a question regarding the Mic monitoring feature - Can you still use it if you use other mic source i.e. Mic connected tru the USB? I was wondering if the Sidetone/Mic monitoring feature only works with microphone directly plug in to the X3's mic input. Hope to get your feedback. Thank you!

Really impressed with creative Labs products lately.

Does the audio signal from line-in also processed by the sound card? I planned to use it as standalone device for my TV. I have old SB X-Fi Surround 5.1, it doesn't process signal from line-in.

I'll add to the "you don't want to damage your ears" remark with my experiences. In 1999 I had a small container explode 18-12" from my left ear, could only hear hi pitched static while other sounds sounded as if they where far away and underwater. Years later I got an ear infection that made me effectively deaf in my right. While I was lucky and both time my hearing returned I'm left with a permanent low hiss. Its easily ignored with other sounds, but I need white noise to sleep or the hiss is loud enough to disturb me.

If I am looking to upgrade my audio, if I am interested in something like the GOXLR mini, do I still need to get a new sound card?

Easy way to get better sound. Looks great. In 2008 I had dedicated souncard with built in decoding, lot's of cables since one cable for every channel. Of course I could use optical out to my receiver but it felt pointless.

I use a 2x2 audio interface to run my powered monitors. Great for headphones and seems more versatile with a few xlr inputs for just a bit less. Not 7.1 but awesome for stereo options.

Hi, does the optical out negates all the features of this dac amp except for the Dolby digital live?

I have recently purchased and installed an Evga Nu Audio Pro......i regret nothing!

would love to see you do some of your latency testing on a product like this, I've actually had some bad experiences with external DACs introducing noticeable latency

@Immortal__

4 жыл бұрын

Which equipment did you notice this on?

Hi @Tech YES City, is it worth upgrading from onboard ALC1220? connected to AVR.

Will improve the sound from a motherboard like the Asus B550M-K to my creative 4.1 speakers? Or this product is more intended for headphone and laptop use?

Can you use the SXFI button to turn on SBX instead if you have SXFI disabled and SBX enabled in the app?

Counterstrikes 3d headphone (HRTF) setting is the gold standard for me.

I went ahead and bought the Sound BlasterX AE-5 sound card a while ago. I like it. What's the appeal of this product over that one?

Thank you for the sound comparison! I have been looking at Super X-Fi to emulate surround sound from my stereo speakers. This video proves that it’s not ideal for my use case.

@happyloaf

4 жыл бұрын

I think the G6 can pass on the SBX processing to stereo speakers. I have a G6 but DO NOT have stereo speakers to test this with.

@ranbymonkeys2384

4 жыл бұрын

get the ASUS STX II I just use 2 stereo speakers myself. The op amps can be changed this card is just incredible. I had the Sound Blaster Titanium HD before the ASUS and there is no comparison.

@mariuszfuchs2010

4 жыл бұрын

@@ranbymonkeys2384 For USB I recommend Asus Xonar U7 standard windows driver and purchase Dolby access from Microsoft store sound incredible.

@ranbymonkeys2384

4 жыл бұрын

@@mariuszfuchs2010 I don't use usb or windows u want to hear great use linux blows windows out of the water don't believe me make a live usb and try it it wont medd up your windows install

@mariuszfuchs2010

4 жыл бұрын

Yes i have Linux mint im afraid the is no support for virtual surround sound and standard is 16 bit 44 kHz.

Does this add a virtual 7.1 sound device in windows so that games properly detect it and output audio for 7.1?

I'm going to start commenting on channels I watch frequently with the topic of the intro ad KZread sends me "post menopausal osteoporosis". Give your bones some tech yes loving!

wow on 7.1 headphones is really good

Do you know if this DAC is designed to work with closed back or open back headphones?

Hey bryan, any plans on covering the Creative G6? I am tossing between it and this one. I was gonna go for the O2 and SDAC from Drop, but I chose otherwise because of the shipping locations and usability/portability of these two vs the drop items.

@hulem98

3 жыл бұрын

Any update on your purchase? I am leaning toward G6 for my 2.0 monitor speakers and Senn headphone. My main objective is accurate 5.1 re-create for movie watching, but still have extreme clean lossless music

What software application are you using in this video to perform the product testing at the beginning of the video?

@techyescity

4 жыл бұрын

Thats REW, its great been using it for years.

Hi guys ,i m curios how it performe vs the sound blaster AE-7 ? i didn t find anny thec video talking about the AE-7 but the specs. look like very intersting, and with the discount -15 off if you upgrade you re creative soundcards .

Midnight Blue is a JAM!

How well does it represent position vs the virtual 7.1 on the AE line of cards? I was a little underwhelmed with the AE-5's directional queues.

@adaml.5355

4 жыл бұрын

SXFi has extremely accurate directional audio, for me. Easily beats every other solution. Probably because it's customized.

@exinfernnus

4 жыл бұрын

@@adaml.5355 So I got one - the surround is very impressive. Sounds from behind occasionally trigger a bit of head snap, which is awesome. The room effect it adds seems odd at first, but now I don't want to game without it. The only thing that bugs me is that the SXFi effect is applied to mic monitoring channel. Something like hearing myself speaking on a low end PA system. Even with that, it's a great piece of tech. Thanks for the review.

how is it with 5.1 speakers i cant find a review i have the creative z pcie but i want to mount me GPU vertically so i will lose the sound card so i have been looking for a DAC so i can use 5.1 and head phone

bryan ur the best bro

Hi Brian i when i changed from my old 290x to a rx 590 i couldn watch any more Videos with HDMI Scaling (i like to make the Whole Picture smaller like scale to 10% becourse its easyer on the eyes on a big tv from watching ours on ours on tv shows for example) its all a choppy video watching mess. it wordked perfect on my old fx amd system and later with my skylake system till i chucked in the new Card. (Tested on win 7 and 10) . Do u think its becourse the 290x was as u mentioned Hardware based and the newer Amd cards are all software based? ps: AMD Support couldnt help me either.

Super X-Fi is building off CMSS 3-D. SUper X-Fi's is more or less the same as X-Fi's old Entertainment Mode, which is one of the better virtual surround sound convolutions out there, but they've added a few more tweaks, such as customization (an old technology they acquired from Sensaura, a British technology firm in the early 2000's).

Your video uploaded at 11:18 here in Indonesia.

Can you share what programs you use to measure this? Maybe a video?

Hi, which one is your choice, AE9 or this X3? Thanks

I paid $100 years ago for the original Creative Soundblaster Z. I still use it today, all these years later. Of course my hearing is not perfect. My hearing was damaged during the Vietnam War and later as I was in field artillery units and no one wore hearing protection.

XLR and TRS can be converted as the signals are the same.

I have read and watched several reviews but still dont know if I can get surround sound from games when it is connected via the optical out to a receiver because everyone is just testing it on theyr headphones :/ Anyone got some info on this?

Damn it isnt a 3am upload in NYC. Brian's on the grind. What is that software you use to measure btw?

@techyescity

4 жыл бұрын

It's called rew

@ejohn180

4 жыл бұрын

@@techyescity thanks yesman, you got me into used price to performance life.

Wow. It's been long time since i watch your video. Just got out from prison.

Can this do hardware accelerated sound with ALchemy in DirectSound3D games? Other modern Creative sound cards purely use software emulation, only the now discountined sound cards that use the X-Fi DSPs can do hardware acceleration.

@mariuszfuchs2010

4 жыл бұрын

Hi I tested myself self and I'm afraid they don't support alchemy be quite honest it's just another junk, better option Sound blaster 5.1 pro USB, great virtual sound THX better than SB Omni.

@boredgunner

4 жыл бұрын

@@mariuszfuchs2010 thanks for letting me know!

To be honest, the direct mode in csgo sounds by far the best to me

@DeAtHvAnGeL

3 жыл бұрын

Same here

Can anyone confirm if the scout mode works like it should be on FPS completive games like Rainbow Six Siege? Footsteps are really important for me

what do you prefer usb sound or pcie sound i prefer pcie over usb btw i needed a souncard becuz my motherboard audio broke so i got a asus dgx 5.1 it sounds good

@techyescity

4 жыл бұрын

This is my favourite yet, really impressed me, even over their ae-9.

Will this output audio through optical and Rear 3.5mm simultaneously?

On a side note - If youre serious about home audio and already have compatible speakers $100-120USD would probably buy you a pretty good secondhand AV receiver. Yes they are 10x the size of the X3 but the added bonus is that you can hook a lot more stuff up, can stream music via wifi/bluetooth, has FM/AM and net radio and the quality of the sound will leave the X3 in the dirt providing you got decent speakers. Obviously you wont get the fancy 3D audio gaming related features that Creative has to offer on their products but you will get a super high quality sound system that rivals that of cinemas if set up correctly with good speakers to match.... Even if you dont and you just hook it up with expensive bookshelf speakers from an old hifi unit you found in the shed. It should still sound pretty good. Apart from my subwoofer. my entire setup i bought pre-owned and that saved me a tonne of money.

@JoeGP

5 ай бұрын

do those $120 used AV receivers have USB digital audio input ? because of not, you are still running it off of crappy onboard audio and I don't see how that can sound better than the X3, also the X3 can still be hooked up to a receiver.

@Rose.Of.Hizaki

5 ай бұрын

@@JoeGP no. No digital USB input but digital HDMI input

Only thing lacking is local availability. Sounds like a trip to SG is in order.

Could you please review EVGA NU audio card as well? Scorptec Melbourne selling them for $440 AU. thanks

Does anyone know if this can fully power HD6xx? Thanks

What kind of headset are you guys using with this

how does the creative x3 stand up to the Sennheiser GSX 1200 PRO Gaming Audio Amplifier anyone know ?

Can you show us the full list of supported Headphones in the settings

If this supports Creative's ALchemy software, this might actually be worth considering for some specialized builds. Still prefer an x-fi internal sound card, or my Audigy Rx for my main PC.

@happyloaf

4 жыл бұрын

I have Alchemy installed and it works on by G6 and X3.

That sound demo sounded great on my LCD2 Classics, modi 3 and atom amp.

@affinity601

4 жыл бұрын

ahh yes, this also sounded great on my "HIFIMAN Shangri-La Sr System Electrostatic Over-Ear Headphones & Amplifier" system

ok so Bryan can it be used with usb headset(usb headset tend to have a inline sound card) my headset costed only 50$(chinese brand) yet it sounds flawless

@churblefurbles

4 жыл бұрын

usb headsets are just cheap low quality usb audiocards, so it would need a 3.5mm jack bypass, which most do, i mean they usually have a jack or use a usb dongle

@rustydust8648

4 жыл бұрын

@@churblefurbles but it sounds sooo good

@rustydust8648

4 жыл бұрын

@@churblefurbles the question is if this cheap sound card can produce so good sound then why even anyone will consider buying that 120$ pricy sound card the surround sound on this cheap in line sound card is perfect

@kennywu5695

4 жыл бұрын

Lol $50, I spent $2 on my earbuds and they sound perfect.

It will be good for my external 5.1 speakers ( Logitech z906)?

will you be testing the X1

ASUS Xonar DX vs Sound Blaster X3, which one will you pick? Currently I have Xonar DX with my Edifier 5.1 sound system, do you think X3 will perform any better than Xonar DX?

@Power_Fantastic

4 жыл бұрын

Easy, the X3 .... it has SUPER X-FI !!!

@lucassaw7248

4 жыл бұрын

@@Power_Fantastic what if we ignore the super xfi technology, just the sound quality

Is this better than the audio from my GPU to a receiver?

a bit weird to buy this for headphone use only since the main benefit of this is as an external 5.1/7.1 dac which are 100 times rarer than headphone dacs. And since you didn't focus on that in the video I didn't get an answer to the question 'Can I get sound in all my speakers if I play audio from my browser (like from youtube) which only outputs stereo ?'

Which is better the g6 or this?

That Super-Xfi thing just sounded like mono on here. Not sure if that is a glitch, but something isn't right there.

Can anyone tell me if this works on PS5 with true analog 7.1 channel surround working? I know PS4 via USB only allow stereo for sound cards, but can't find anything about PS5, also some true 5.1 or 7.1 true multi-driver headphones always have a * for PS4 saying only stereo, but on PS5 it never states anything so I wonder if PS5 finally support true multi channel USB sound cards...

How's the 7.1 surround compare to Sennhiser GX1000?

@shaolin95

4 жыл бұрын

X3 beats it. I just replaced my 1000 just more accurate to me

Can it power dt 990 pro 280ohm

SBX Surround is 100000000x better for positional audio than Super X-Fi.

is this a senhizer?

Will this make my speakers sound better?

Sennheiser gsx 1000 i have its nice, but missing optical out from it to receiver :-(

CMSS3D isn't coming back. That tech took hundreds of audio channels and calculated positional audio from them. Ever since Microsoft killed hardware accelerated audio with Vista, we now only have 7 channels or so max.

@xXYannuschXx

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, CMSS3D on the Titanium HD supported this via OpenAL, even on Vista and higher. Sadly game devs didnt care (because it didnt work on consoles and the release of the Xbox360 and PS3 MASSIVELY shifted development from PC to consoles (which was further amplified by Microsoft pushing console gaming, because "PCs arent for gaming")) and Creative ended up only doing ONE major update of OpenAL to version 1.1 and then making it EOL. You can however still use OpenAL Soft (an open source continuation of OpenAL) to get HRTF to work in games using OpenAL, sadly this doesnt support EAX function as good as the Creative version, let alone the ones that had hardware accelerated EAX.

Sound BlasterX G6 vs X3?

Any recommendation for good quality price-performance Microphone ??

@Rem_NL

4 жыл бұрын

cant beat this thing at roughly 5 euros "CMP-MIC8" its a Konig Clip on microphone

I don't know if it's just me but the "Super X-Fi" sounds like it's downmixing to mono or something, there's no directionality to the sound...?

@TBonerism

4 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I was thinking

@ibrahimb6226

4 жыл бұрын

It's just the way the demo sounds played through youtube. You have to hear it direct to hear how good it is.

@BenWillock

4 жыл бұрын

Well you only have two ears so you only need stereo output, in theory, it's up to the actual applications etc to implement proper 3D sound (I think both Nvidia and AMD have path traced audio solutions available but idk if they've made it into any games yet)

@techyescity

4 жыл бұрын

It sounds a lot better than in the demos I did here.

@techyescity

4 жыл бұрын

I had to unfortunately record line in as its hardware based end out processing.

Super X-Fi sounds much better if you hear it direct through a good set of headphones. I know people like to crap on virtual surround tech but super x-fi is probably the best attempt at virtual surround that I've heard. Games, especially FPS titles sound amazing with it on and a good pair of headphones.

@Zellonous

4 жыл бұрын

I usually use Bluetooth earbuds on my phone and I've been fooled by noises I thought were behind me. Watched a tech yes video the other day and he spooked me too with that weird distorted voice he does sometimes.

@SharrodVisuals

4 жыл бұрын

I just ordered a pair of DT 990 pros 250ohms. Would they be good with this X3?

@adaml.5355

4 жыл бұрын

@@SharrodVisuals I listened to some Sennheiser 6XX with SXfI and it sounded quite bad. I did the same with my Philips Fidelio Headphones X2HR and it sounds fantastic, especially with music. Can't say much about DT 990 pros with SXFI, but the X3 will run them fine on high gain. I'd say the more revealing headphones are the easier it is to hear the digital trickery of surround.

@GottHoldNicetomeet

4 жыл бұрын

Are you all guys trolling? It sounds super awful i can't tell any directions at all anymore with my mmx300... with no effects in cs go i could blindly shoot them, but with the sfx effect there is no way plus it sounds super hally. And the Scout mode was too short to make a conclusion but it also didnt felt as directional as the no fx one.... (judging by the video)

@castome7pi

4 жыл бұрын

@@GottHoldNicetomeet No one is trolling. If you watch carefully you can't hear it fine on video because you don't have the same ears as him. Super X-Fi has a CUSTOM profile adapted to a concrete ear. 3:38

coooool i only have an option for head phone gain and not 7.1 also dont have 32 bit on my control board for some reason.... any help bois?

nice try but the human eye can't even see more than 24 decibels per second.

Intel should get that adobe guy from the last show to do the PR

I appreciate you trying to demo Super-XFI but the demo had a bathroom level of reverb on it. There must be a way to disable that.

@happyloaf

4 жыл бұрын

The Gen 2 which the XFi has is better. However, one thing not mentioned in the review is the SXFI is based on photos of your head. I have tried mine and my wife's profile in RDR2 and Forza Horizon 4. I really like/love my profile in RDR2 but my wife's sound off with the "wrong" amount of reverb. Is the SXFI magical, not really but I really enjoy it over the SBX processing. The main thing is the rear channels sound like they are actually behind me and not at an ~160 degree angle right next to my head. The SXFI is also very nice for any video content even 2.0 sourced content. For music it is hit or miss. The older the recording the more I tend to like it.

Would this be considered an upgrade to my X-Fi HD?

@tylerdurden1204

3 жыл бұрын

Would it be worth it?

80s music 🙂👍

check hesuvi if you want proper surround virtualization

Is this one any good then gigabyte X570 masters onboard audio? Thanks

@techyescity

4 жыл бұрын

X570 master has good onboard audio, this will be better, but not worth it if you have mid-range cans.

@kanpuriaa

4 жыл бұрын

Tech YES City I use sennheiser GSP 550’s with USB dongle at the moment, but I do also have 3.5 mm cable as well.thanks.your thoughts .? Thanks.

yauzaaaaa

$120 dollars? Better be able to hear Russian launch codes from a Nuclear Submarine...

@Safetytrousers

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think you have much experience of audio gear.

@NightMotorcyclist

4 жыл бұрын

Spent that much on my old Soundblaster Live! Platinum in the early 2000s. Last year I spent $60 for a SoundBlaster Audigy RX as it was a major improvement over my onboard audio especially with regards to headphone use (and this onboard sound was touted as being quite a step above others).

@shaolin95

4 жыл бұрын

Oh boy...

@allansh828

4 жыл бұрын

@@Safetytrousers $120 is like, nothing, not even a pair of decent RCA cable.

@Safetytrousers

4 жыл бұрын

@@allansh828 You are being ripped off if you are paying $120 for RCA cable. Studios make up their own cables to measure and the cabling they use will typically cost less than $3.00 a metre. That's what the music you are listening to is recorded through. You've been taken in by the snake oil salesmen if you think $120 phono cables are going to give you a superior listening experience. There's only so much you can do with copper and shielding just has to be sufficient. Other specialist audio gear and hifi though does cost a lot of money. But the hifi world is rife with loony priced nonsense. Russ Andrews for instance will try to sell you a kettle lead for £2000.

Can you turn off those lights?

Use SBX for competitive gaming not super xfi

I am a fan of Creative but on windows 10 1903 the X-Fi drivers and software does not support anymore. so no crystal and other effects anymore.

X3 or G6 ??