Crawler Canyon Quick(re)view: Pro-Line Hyrax U4 (2.2/3.0)

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My definition of "quick" might not fall in line with others. But I've got you know, things to say. I call these a "quickview" because it covers unboxing and initial testing. It does not speak to durability, longevity, etc.
This is the "quick" review of 5.75" Pro-Line Hyrax U4 Rock Racing tires.
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  • @nathanwirth9906
    @nathanwirth9906 Жыл бұрын

    I love it when you break up the crawler stuff with a “fast” RC. Still love the crawler stuff the best but I like the change occasionally because that’s how I roll. Love the channel!!!

  • @GrimJerr
    @GrimJerr Жыл бұрын

    Sweet Lasernut and Much Sweeter with good electronics, and those Hyrax sidewalls are softer and better grip = flip !

  • @smiley37greg
    @smiley37greg5 ай бұрын

    I run those Hyrax U4 tires on my 1/10th Rock Rey. It has a locked rear axle and open center and front diff. Its a little tipsy, but it looks so good running medium speed on moderate trails. Not a crawler. Its a chore to break down and do maintenance. I wish losi would have used the front end of the SCTE instead of the proprietary arms thry did. The Hammer Rey used alot of Rock Rey suspension parts so they are still available.

  • @white6502
    @white6502 Жыл бұрын

    Hyrax dont work in my area but its fun watching people try to get them too. Comment for the algorithm

  • @nicholasstephey8475
    @nicholasstephey8475 Жыл бұрын

    Agree with your stance. We all have to follow our convictions.

  • @TheAmericanUhate
    @TheAmericanUhate Жыл бұрын

    I've been stuck in Fullerton, CA beside the gear box RC shop since early Saturday morning lol. Didn't see I was supposed to deliver on Monday morning, showed up 2 days early. Hiding behind the warehouse in my truck lol. Those are the same hyrax's that the UDR uses too

  • @meirdeaph
    @meirdeaph Жыл бұрын

    That things bookin, id say its really stabile for how fast it seems to be going.that rig looks like a tottal blast

  • @jimbocreationsbu8203
    @jimbocreationsbu8203 Жыл бұрын

    nice zoomies - looks fun

  • @jord001
    @jord001 Жыл бұрын

    Having never being the owner of anything resembling a Lasernut I don't understand why the wheels are like that with the 2.2 on the outside and the 3.0? on the inside. There must be a reason for it but I dont comprehend why they are better for this type of truck. I thought they would be just the same as the beadlocks I am familiar with but use 2.2. Nice truck though, however I prefer the looks of short course trucks to the buggy type. I've been looking at them for a couple of years but won't spend the stupid price tag they come with. If I can pick one up cheap in the future that would be great but as theres nowhere to run one near me I will sit and wait. Thanks for the vid, i enjoyed seeing the Lasernut hoon round the canyon flatlands. Catch you on the next one.

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    The 2.2/3.0 is the compromise-- looks like a scale tire on the outside, but is big enough on the inside to clear what are basically 1/8 buggy knuckles-- and 1/8 buggy wheels are just plain 3.0. My advice to anyone looking for an SCT is the same as it's always been: pick out whatever 1/8 buggy that has parts support in your area, buy that, and put a short course body on it. Fast, durable, almost infinitely adjustable.

  • @jord001

    @jord001

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CrawlerCanyon That makes sense to me. Thanks for explaining

  • @martinmills6980
    @martinmills6980 Жыл бұрын

    From what I see in your clip, the tyres on the inside of your turn is expanding due to the diff out occurring and exaggerating the lean angle to help it flip in the turns. Maybe trying a closed cell foam or something along those lines would help.

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    Preliminary googling has not revealed ANY foams for this size tire other than what they came with. All of the 2.2/3.0 foams are for the typical SCT tire, which is much shorter than these "U4" versions. I can heavy up the diffs a bit, but the heavier the diff action, the more likely I am to start bending moving bits. At least it's a problem I feel might be solvable. Maybe.

  • @TheAmericanUhate
    @TheAmericanUhate Жыл бұрын

    Oh and try some Crawler Innovations heavy weight single stage foams. They're solid and stiff top to bottom. I find that harder foams work best in the bigger sized tires on fast vehicles like the UDR and lazernut

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna have to maybe take a shot at the closed cell CI foams for 2.2/3.0 and just hope that they're big enough to fill out the U4-sized tires. The UDR runs a much shorter tire, but I might be able to "mash something up" with a bucket of unused open-cell outers from all of the dual stages I've cannibalized.

  • @ericstratten6974
    @ericstratten6974 Жыл бұрын

    DE Racing make a 2.2/3.0 with 17mm Hex that provides a constant diameter barrel for even foam compression inside to out . . . .

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    I've got a couple sets of old timey Trinidads. About the same profile as the AE wheels. Problem is, the Pro-Line foams are just straight 2.2 all the way through, so they are absolutely CRAMMED in there. I think Pro-Line just ships the 2.2/3.0 Hyrax with the exact same foams that come with the 2.2 Hyrax.

  • @badcredentials4230
    @badcredentials4230 Жыл бұрын

    Haha yewww I can’t believe how big those tyres get man! They’re levering your car over from the inside when you get them light and wound up. Do they make belted foams or anything that can help keep the shape from going full demo-saw?

  • @badcredentials4230

    @badcredentials4230

    Жыл бұрын

    Love this rig by the way man, the body panels and cage look awesome! I just got a Wendigo and I’ve been doing a couple things to get it ready for U4 RC racing in a couple weeks. It too is a flippy truck!

  • @jerseyscaler445
    @jerseyscaler4456 ай бұрын

    Bought the bl120 with the 3100 hobbywing for this as you suggested. Most definitely an amazing time and a complete animal. Tons of fun . However !if there was a way to crawl this a bit it would be a complete package for me. Does there exist a revolver that can produce speed and some low end control to pair with the bl120? Does such an animal exist ?

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    6 ай бұрын

    I would look at sensored inrunners, something in the ~13.5 turn/~3000kv (or lower) area. I'm running a sensored inrunner ( a whomping 2650kv 4268) off of an old Mamba Max in a TRX-4, and it's surprisingly good. The problem is finding that perfect combination of inexpensive, sensored, bigger than a 3650. It always seems to be a pick-2 situation.

  • @bradlycruse73
    @bradlycruse73 Жыл бұрын

    Nice, I have a Lasernut, it’s a fun rig but the stock tires suck bad!

  • @GrimJerr
    @GrimJerr Жыл бұрын

    i have been running the Hyrax 2.2 Predator front and G8 Rear on my Portal Axle RYFT and they are Awesome ! Yeah I know people hate the Hyrax (not a scale tire)

  • @GrimJerr

    @GrimJerr

    Жыл бұрын

    Looking at that sidewall tread pattern (ribbing) is different than what I have.

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    I imagine because these are the SC-style 2.2/3.0.

  • @jayleeson8517
    @jayleeson8517 Жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised you have not done a icftw on that beastie

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, I haven't made a single part for it, so I didn't feel like it qualified. I would LOVE to completely replace the servo-saver/bellcrank with something that you know, works. And I genuinely considered "devolving" it into a Tenacity, but that appears to have been discontinued, and Amain has NONE of the relevant parts.

  • @chrispearce9224
    @chrispearce9224 Жыл бұрын

    I wish the Hammer Rey was more average 1/10 scale size. Either that or I wish the Lasernut was solid rear axle. I have a project in mind but don't want to use the huge Hammer Rey. I kinda don't want to start hacking up the 1/10 Baja Rey trophy truck....but I just might.

  • @chrispearce9224

    @chrispearce9224

    Жыл бұрын

    However, being 50% through the video now....that sucker is hooked up. The ride height make a huge difference.

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    I had heard tell of the sheer size of the Hammer Rey, and then a couple of weeks ago I got to see one up close and personal. Good grief, Losi. It's roughly the same size as a Traxxas UDR or Arrma Mojave, which are both listed as 1/7th scale. It's been a dream of mine for many moons to build an IFS front live axle rear rig, but you know-- sanely sized, to fit a standard 1/10 SCT body. I might need to do this. Pull the front clip out of a Slash 4x4 or something, maybe an AR60 for the back...

  • @camrendoucette5592
    @camrendoucette5592 Жыл бұрын

    Newish here what is the reasoning for the proline hatred. I don’t like them just based on better tires are cheaper but I’d like more reasons not to like them

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    The pricing would be enough-- but I have a long and storied history with Pro-Line, and can sum it up thusly: the bodies are poorly made and wildly overpriced (I've had multiple bodies split in half in 1-2 battery packs) their "hard parts" are of dubious quality and WILDLY overpriced (I once suffered through a solid week of trying to get a set of Powerstrokes to stop leaking, and was never successful) but most importantly, and the crux of the whole matter, is that their CS isn't just poor, it's bad. I had a prolonged contact session with them trying to get some defective parts replaced (improperly molded A-arms, full of bubbles) and their implication was that it was somehow my fault. The parts were eventually replaced-- which took almost 5 weeks, despite Pro-Line's "made in the USA" headquarters being less than 30 miles from where I'm sitting. The final contact from Pro-Line CS (paraphrased) said, "here's the parts to replace the ones you broke, and this will be the last time we replace them. In the future, maybe buy something else." So I did. Oh, and those A-arms? About $40 worth total.

  • @fromfin90
    @fromfin90 Жыл бұрын

    i got a 10BL60 in my Tamiya TT02B plasma edge 2, its that loud :D

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    Same fan, I'd reckon. I can just guess that the fan, despite having a dedicated plug, is just running off of pack voltage. No other fans I've encountered are remotely as loud.

  • @brianmassey7563
    @brianmassey7563 Жыл бұрын

    Why is it that a U4 rig comes with open diffs? I'm just a total noob on this stuff. I just watched a bunch of KoH and I never saw anyone running an open diff. No winches? I tried running a Hammer Rey (friends rig) at a rock race course this summer at a big comp, and I couldn't even make it up the first hill of rocks. My Traction Hobby Cragsman C ran it no problemo. Why are these things sold? What's the intended use for them? Also, isn't the Hyrax a tread design intended for rocks? I'm so confused.

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    My guess is because no one wants to make a U4 rig, they just want to keep "reskinning" stuff they already have. The Lasernut, being a stretched Tenacity Pro, is no more a "rock racer" than is a Slash 4x4 or an Arrma Senton. And yes, the Hyrax is a crawler tire. But the Trencher started off as a Stampede tire, and now you can buy 'em for crawlers. Everything old is new again, I guess.

  • @fromfin90

    @fromfin90

    Жыл бұрын

    you could make the Traxxas Summit into a rock racer, its got 2 speed, lockable diffs

  • @Andy_Yates
    @Andy_Yates Жыл бұрын

    In my best Statler and Waldorf voice, you're doing it wrong!🤡 I'm on a Ford group for my old 51 and people get all bent out of shape on there like people are spending their money. I'm like, who cares just let them enjoy their car! Enjoy that Lasernut how you want to 🤘

  • @dkmgm2011
    @dkmgm2011 Жыл бұрын

    The best thing I ever did for handling was million wt in the diffs. Started with the center but that wasn't enough. The differentials are to small to be effective imo. If you lock it up the tires expand equally and therefore balloon half as much. Which helps keep the rig flat. Trade off is you actually have to drift to turn. But your doing that anyway, so why have an open diff?

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    I filled these with the heaviest I had on hand at the time, and you're absolutely right-- the fiddly, tiny gears in the diff are so small they need way thicker. I think I went 50/100/100, and had I to do it again I would probably go 100/500/500, or 100/1M/500. Again, this is nonsense brought to us by Horizon, as I run 3k/5k/7k in my SC8e, and that's cst, not weight-- so I literally have 240wt in my front diff. Because AE made that diff properly.

  • @dkmgm2011

    @dkmgm2011

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CrawlerCanyon I'm sure if they were spooled we would break things at an alarming rate. Trust me, they are still open I don't mean locked. I'll take mil wt and be thankful it doesn't strip gears. But I don't know how. It's lived the 6s life.

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dkmgm2011 I definitely don't have the room for the 6S life. I can barely get the 'Noot up to full tilt on 3S. I've never gotten the Kraton to full throttle, I still don't know how fast it will actually go.

  • @RiceCrisp320
    @RiceCrisp3207 ай бұрын

    But how do they crawl?😂 Ive been considering then in a ryft.

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    7 ай бұрын

    Should do as well or better than the Hyrax LPs, as we found out on a Weekly Dumb why 2.2/3.0s are banned-- it's a kind of an unnatural advantage. Minimal loss of forward drive, but excellent sidehill. The tough part is you kind of have to commit to glue-ons. There's a small handful of beadlocks in that size, and they are NOT cheap.

  • @JW-cn6op
    @JW-cn6op Жыл бұрын

    Looks like to much traction with the prolines for you.Straight into that stump.haha

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    Would be better if it had been a stump, that's a 3' long concrete post base that I ratcheted out of the ground. Probably weighs 120lbs, and it didn't move AT ALL.

  • @JW-cn6op

    @JW-cn6op

    Жыл бұрын

    Ouch! Did it break anything on inspection?

  • @jpokorny2268
    @jpokorny2268 Жыл бұрын

    These tires would rip at the waters edge of a sandy beach.

  • @FaithSaraG
    @FaithSaraG Жыл бұрын

    That thing sounds like a damn shop vac.

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    Amazing what kind of sound can come out of a fan about the size of a nickel. Probably didn't even need it.

  • @meirdeaph
    @meirdeaph Жыл бұрын

    Haha someone said u drove it wrong?! Ther prolly hateing cause u got it so dialed in

  • @stankovic7150
    @stankovic7150 Жыл бұрын

    I think you really need an UDR

  • @CrawlerCanyon

    @CrawlerCanyon

    Жыл бұрын

    I've always been kept away by some widely reported durability/reliability issues. The bar has been set almost impossibly high by my SC8.2e, which has never broken a single part in over a decade, and I've done some properly dumb stuff with that truck.

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