For nearly two years I was in charge of MAC flights in the Navy. I made sure that every pallet was weighed and measured properly, and the weighted total of the cargo was perfect--down to the ounces. I've done a lot of stupid things in my life, but misrepresenting cargo weight is not one of them. My 1149s were always perfect!

@lindabecker8090

2 жыл бұрын

The level of integrity between cargo masters in the military and the 36th Street Miami rampers/loaders who barely speak English is night and day. Much of the Miami cargo operators back then were built by drug money, so not much by way of moral compasses there. A former flight mechanic of mine worked at Fine Air up until the time of the crash. There was very shady business going on. Securing cargo is priority #1 for me, I will visually inspect loading ensuring cargo straps and locks are done IAW with loading protocols. I have been known to chew out people who just try to let things go. I have demanded offloads, a re-weigh and a total crew change of loaders before without any hesitation and just wait to get my ass verbally chewed out by my boss. I document everything with pictures, send emails off and never call anyone back. What part of “you think the FAA would like to know about this as an IATA delay or when the NTSB has to show up on the scene of a crash?” Thank you for your service!

I remember this accident. I was a trainnee pilot at the time on B747 at the Miami simulator center. I was in my hotel overlooking the runways and saw the smoke from the accident. This led me to develop safe procedures during cargo transportation for the next 24 years . I am now retired and often think about the airmen who perished . If anything, at least they contributed to increase aviation safety in the cargo world. May they rest in Peace!

I was a security guard and officer for over 6 years. That sounds just like the kind of incompetence that I dealt with in that industry on a daily basis. Why a security guard was in charge of loading freight I'll never know.

Can’t believe a coincidence of two red lights saved everyone in rush hour traffic except for the man in the parking lot. Must of been a weird seeing the intersection lights turn red and then a plane crashing in the empty space. Great detail in this video keep it up

@747-pilot

3 жыл бұрын

Actually in a twist of irony, the red lights saved all those people on the road, but *_that_* is what allowed the wreckage to keep on going and kill that man in the parking lot. If the fuselage had hit the cars on the road, it would've stopped and not proceeded into the parking lot!

@larrydavid6852

3 жыл бұрын

The way the video was playing out at that point, I was starting to hope it would end in some sort of miracle where everyone made it out alive somehow. Even though any rational though suggested very much otherwise.

@videodeposu8741

3 жыл бұрын

@@747-pilot probably

@christopherstorey980

3 жыл бұрын

4

@kebabkebob7808

3 жыл бұрын

I would start honking until the air plane parts got out of my way

Brings back memories. Flew for them till 94. Knew the crew. May they rest in peace.

@BaddestBunnyy

Ай бұрын

94? Wdym by 94?

@sandramelvin7123

Ай бұрын

@@BaddestBunnyy as in the year.

I knew the flight engineer Glenn Millington who died that day. I also worked with a guy who’s brother’s crew was supposed to have got that flight instead they were canceled. Gives me goose bumps to this day.

Poor dude in the car was just enjoying life....hoping to see the smile on the love of his life's face when he finally gave her some lunch. Man was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Horrible.

@flagmichael

3 жыл бұрын

I used to be a serious worrier. When I was 50 I took stock and realized none of the worst things that happened to me were things I had worried about; they just happened. We have to enjoy life until it is no longer possible.

@gunownersmostarecowards9757

3 жыл бұрын

*ObviousLy, He did NOT KNOW Jesus Christ!!!! BAD THINGS NEVER HAPPEN to ME!!!!*

@auletjohnast03638

3 жыл бұрын

Minayito, They said she threw the lunch away.

@bohemiantheologian6443

2 жыл бұрын

Same with security guard on flight.

@davidscottmaclean5782

2 жыл бұрын

They were probably going to get divorced soon, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

I was a driver that went up and down that road once in awhile we had a driver that was going to Amerijet that day we all saw the huge plume of black smoke from the dock and the supervisor started calling the driver to see if he was okay because we knew he was in the area, so from what we understood was a pallet wasn't locked in and rolled back causing the aircraft to pitch up and stall and slam into the ground immediately and of course he was full of fuel the main crash covered both lanes of 72nd Ave and hit some of those stores that were along the road. What was crazy the very next day there was a huge explosion on 836 and we all thought another plane had gone down but it was a tanker truck that had exploded rough couple of days in MIA that week!

@ARedMotorcycle

3 жыл бұрын

Nice story. Try punctuation next time. Makes it easier for the reader.

@atomicpunk520

3 жыл бұрын

@@ARedMotorcycle don't be a smart ass i read it just fine.

@LV2UJC-FM

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the additional info. This must've been something else to witness! It's extremely sad to learn about it. Your writing is fine BTW. Have a great day & please be safe!

@alis05

2 жыл бұрын

@@ARedMotorcycle read the story with no issues. And he did use enough punctuation. Go volunteer as a punctuation teacher in a high school if you want to be this anal about it.

The saddest part for me was the man in the parking lot. He just went to pickup lunch for his wife and probably died without even knowing what had happened.

@bobtuda

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that was very sad, indeed. It was a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Apparently, it was time for the Good Lord to call him home. Yes, it was probably painless. R.I.P., good man.

3 жыл бұрын

It happens. I witnessed delta 191 go down in the freeway as a kid....

@gunownersmostarecowards9757

3 жыл бұрын

@Aero 001*OnLy God-Haters, say Rest in Peace!!!*

@parkave2406

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobtuda there is no good lord, he’s most likely an alien if he does exist or was quite possibly an ordinary human. Once we find life or even past life elsewhere in the universe, you’ll see

@MrFloppy131

3 жыл бұрын

@ on the freeway not in

R.I.P to the 5 people who lost their lives (4 on board & one on the ground).

@T_sussusmogus

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I would hate to be the person that died because of a unfortunate parking spot

@CyanBlanket

3 жыл бұрын

@@T_sussusmogus he was in the wrong place at the wrong tim

@sharona5646

3 жыл бұрын

@@CyanBlanket it was his time, when your time is up, your time is up 😔

@T_sussusmogus

3 жыл бұрын

@@CyanBlanket yea ik that’s why I said I would hate to die because if the unfortunate parking spot

@NarutoBuildModeGuy

3 жыл бұрын

R.i.p innocent passenger

I worked as a ramp agent for Integrated Airline Services at KIAH in 1999 and one of our clients was BAX Global (they used the DC-8's extensively), I recalled the pilots demanding to see the loading chart prior to engine startup and taxing for takeoff. We ALWAYS made sure the pallet clamps secured the cargo in place in their proper position.

I would think aircraft flying with heavy loads like this would be double or even triple checked. Another great upload thanks for all your hard work.

@Powerranger-le4up

3 жыл бұрын

Part of it was that the loaders weren’t properly trained about weight and balance. They just assumed you put the stuff on the plane and off it goes.

@watershed44

3 жыл бұрын

@@Powerranger-le4up Should be a loadmaster supervising, where was he?

@philipparana9225

3 жыл бұрын

41000 cycles holy shit

@shatteredshards8549

3 жыл бұрын

@@philipparana9225 41,000 has to be put into perspective though - the DC-8 isn't completely out of service yet, even 20+ years after this accident, even though they stopped being made in 1972. While the airframe was getting a little old, preventative maintenance would have been key.

@mikeprevost8650

Жыл бұрын

@@watershed44 The "loadmaster" seems to have been a security guard.

Absolutely gutted about the wife. That's just ...tragic.

@AsIseeitPattiDail

3 жыл бұрын

this is a recorded VIDEO GAME! Look again!

@davidscottmaclean5782

2 жыл бұрын

They were probably going to get divorced soon anyways.

@mademagic8430

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidscottmaclean5782 wtf man?

@yano9669

Жыл бұрын

@@AsIseeitPattiDail yes but the accident still happened

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how much effort the flight channel guy puts into his videos I’ve been a subscriber for years now and he’s never let me down

@setxrestuarantreviews6436

3 жыл бұрын

I agree very much with your opinion people dont understand the work that goes in it

@thayoutubebigwig1109

3 жыл бұрын

do we have to...sugarplum?

@thayoutubebigwig1109

3 жыл бұрын

bitcoin

@cycle9999

3 жыл бұрын

I so agree

@cycle9999

3 жыл бұрын

Ever since I stepped foot on. His channel, I loved it

That's why proper loading of cargo and proper trim setting is must for a safe flight.

@generalyellor2187

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Captain Obvious!

@Marsalien100

3 жыл бұрын

I fully blame the pilots for this one. They didn't gain enough ground speed to take off safely.

@haiqalzaki5113

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marsalien100 How is this the pilots fault though? It was anything but the pilots fault. They did gain enough ground to take off (Vr reached), but improper cargo loading messes up the aircraft CG, which then causes the aircraft to pitch to an abnormal attitude upon rotation. This is why the aircraft stalled. Blaming the pilots for this is ignorant. Most pilots would struggle recovering a deep stall at a high altitude, let alone 1000ft above ground. The moment they walk into that fateful aircraft their fate was sealed.

@stefaan715

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marsalien100 they werd much heavier than the paperwork said, so that is why V1 and Vr were miscalculated. And in those aircraft you can't check the load once it is loaded in. So they could not know the CG problem.

@hxor

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marsalien100 Admirable but..mistaken.

Damn that guy in car is in the wrong place and time

@flagmichael

3 жыл бұрын

But so many others were lucky. When aircraft slam across busy roads tragedy is the order of the day.

@amanitlas8945

3 жыл бұрын

Dude it isn't his fault, he was not suspecting a plane to crash, you never know when something will crash, so count yourself lucky mate

@swapniltuljapurkar7063

3 жыл бұрын

@@amanitlas8945 I guess he was not blaming that guy for being there. He just stated that unfortuantely he was at the wrong place at the wrong time

@laceys2038

3 жыл бұрын

Of course it wasn't his fault, why would anyone think it was?

@bogdan_n

3 жыл бұрын

@@flagmichael yeah, thank heavens the plane didn't hit the budweiser distribution center.

I remember this and brought back memories. I was working as an aviation technician at quality aircraft parts. We were having lunch outside and heard the boom and smoke. Well done video. Respect to family's.

Hey everybody I was a doctor for some of the First Responders who attended the scene I had to treat them for PTSD and other mental struggles that they suffer from after seen this crash.

@flagmichael

3 жыл бұрын

Traumatic stress at that stage, but that is even more distressing than PTSD. (Have had the experience of both more than once.) I hope you are okay - traumatic stress tends to be contagious, just seeing people knocked that far sideways. Everybody absorbs some of the horror.

@irvancrocs1753

3 жыл бұрын

I already feel a shiver down my spine by looking or watching plane crash footages videos who being captured on camera, can't imagine the horror people who experience it right away or seen them by their own eyes, must be really terrifying.. Btw thanks for your work!

This was the worst. I could see the smoke after it happened. I knew Barry Fine from my gym. So tragic.

I've watched a lot of these over the last few weeks and the level of terror I now feel knowing that a security guard could be responsible for my death gave me shivers.

@BGI_guy

2 жыл бұрын

@@AsIseeitPattiDail and? its a real life event

@AsIseeitPattiDail

2 жыл бұрын

How do I turn off notifications for this channel? I had an opinion a few months ago, but, people WON'T leave me alone now! STOP replying to my old comments PLEASE!

@rickthecookiegoesmassive2723

2 жыл бұрын

yeah but i dont think that ever happened

@yano9669

Жыл бұрын

@@rickthecookiegoesmassive2723 this accident was real

@romanemperor3160

Жыл бұрын

​@@AsIseeitPattiDail No

I could tell by the way he was walking that security guard had something to do with it.

@philliplosinski985

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too, good catch!! He's guilty I tell you!!

@aggiesjc

3 жыл бұрын

That was a funky walk considering the realistic nature of the rest of the video!

@watershed44

3 жыл бұрын

@@aggiesjc I almost detected a slight limp? Did you? Seriously watch closely one leg.

@jkinzel5979

3 жыл бұрын

🤭

@dr.coomer789

3 жыл бұрын

He has dark skin, its him i tell you!!11!

It's incredible how such a seemingly innocuous thing as how cargo is loaded can lead to a fatal plane crash.

5 people died thanks to "we've always done it this way"

@rainerrain9689

3 жыл бұрын

Due to pure laziness !

@millomweb

3 жыл бұрын

Those kind of people shouldn't be anywhere near aircraft.

@ingridmartin7523

2 жыл бұрын

@@AsIseeitPattiDail it's a re-creation of an actual event in history. That's what this channel does.

I remember this flight back in 97' , the plane flew close to US 826 during rush hour; things could have been a lot of worse that day.

I remember when this accident happened and I was at the other side of the airport working. DC8’s are actually great aircraft. Some companies even invested in Replacing the JT3s with the CFM56 engines. The aircraft was fast, efficient and reliable fir its age. But when you cut corners or have a company that was known for pushing a product when they should have not, things go bad really quick. A hard lesson to learn especially for the persons that died. RIP to all that pass in this horrific crash.

This almost happened to me when I was flying a turboprop night cargo flight out of Edinburgh in the late 1990s. The load was too far aft and when we took off there was an uncommanded pitch up which was near the limits of our control. We eventually reached cruise and the aircraft began to gently oscillate which was strange. I decided to land at Liverpool with a reduced flap setting and looking back, if full flap was used, control would probably have been lost. After taxying onto the stand, the nose wheel strut was completely extended and the aircraft was almost sitting on its tail.

It’s a good video, well made and with sufficient detail, without being overly lengthy. Well done! RIP those who were on the plane and the guy in the car.

@AsIseeitPattiDail

3 жыл бұрын

IT'S A RECORDING OF A VIDEO GAME! WATCH IT AGAIN! SHEESH!

Imagine skidding on your belly like that. That flight crew would've known they were about to die and there was nothing they could do to stop it. R.I.P.

@AsIseeitPattiDail

3 жыл бұрын

this is a recorded VIDEO GAME! Look again!

@tj4234

3 жыл бұрын

@@AsIseeitPattiDail yes. Recreating an actual event. Idiot.

@alvaroakatico9188

2 жыл бұрын

@@AsIseeitPattiDail 🤦

@user-ej1sm1hw6s

2 жыл бұрын

They actually survived the crash and slide, there was old video from a sc that showed them scrambling to get out, but an explosion went off and killed everyone

@alex90ny

2 жыл бұрын

@@AsIseeitPattiDail do you think all the details in the video are just made up? like for fun?

The guy in the car that perished is like a scene out a movie, “final destination”

@heynowheynow-tk6tk

3 жыл бұрын

Isn’t it :(, had something delayed him by a few moments he’d be fine minus a car

@NOV123

3 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy because he should’ve noticed a plane that size coming towards him. Smh

@williebradley1582

3 жыл бұрын

O

@NickDalzell

3 жыл бұрын

Aborting after v1 is possible and has been seen in TFC videos. It's preferable to lose the plane over losing life but oh well. Airlines care only about money.

@junejones1032

3 жыл бұрын

@@NickDalzell l

I feel so bad for the man in the parking lot but goodness how lucky that so very few died.

@IzzyBill

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Just thinking about sitting in ur car having lunch and you look out the window to see a wingless, tailless, dc-8 sliding toward you. A horrific last sight that man had.

@nykster1014

3 жыл бұрын

@@AsIseeitPattiDail holy shit the irony in this comment did you even watch the video

@AsIseeitPattiDail

3 жыл бұрын

@@nykster1014 My apologies! I now understand this channel and I'm addicted! TY! And I'm sorry!

@bohemiantheologian6443

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget security guard on flight. RIP all.

I never leave this channel dissapointed. EDIT: Thanks for the 100 likes

@kartikeyasingh1907

3 жыл бұрын

Not proper way of sentence formation. It should be "I have never left this channel being disappointed"

@Vortex__24

3 жыл бұрын

@@kartikeyasingh1907 Actually both terms are correct

@kartikeyasingh1907

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vortex__24 I contest this. The earlier sentence implies a meaning that the person (saying the sentence) has never disappointed the channel. So even though it's correct English, the formation of the sentence is wrong. Mostly because the sentence uses two verbs simultaneously, "leave" and "disappointed".

@palimajumdar3393

3 жыл бұрын

Any sentencr formations are ok. They only mean one thing

@cbaadit

3 жыл бұрын

Same

Whatever may be ahead, I must tell you TFC that you'll each great hights. You'll be flawless. Good work

Rip everyone who got involved, anyway everyday that TheFlightChannel uploads is a good day

@NarutoBuildModeGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Yea Rip the everyone innocent passengers

@NarutoBuildModeGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Say when need i do passengers everyone but its not like innocent passengers😂😂😂 This is cargo first maybe or need coming TheFlightChannel its upload

@jj_cars99

3 жыл бұрын

hardest part? "no one survived" on board

@T_sussusmogus

3 жыл бұрын

@@jj_cars99 yea it hurts to see that

@T_sussusmogus

3 жыл бұрын

@Don W bruh did you even understand what I meant, I meant to say TheFlightChannel videos are so good every time he uploads its a good day

Loud Bangs before rotating is the bird itself yelling "Abort Takeoff!"

@lazy4549

3 жыл бұрын

They can't stop takeoff after passing a particular speed and distance on runway.

@adit.irhamna

3 жыл бұрын

@@lazy4549 v1 speed

@gerrywhelan5761

3 жыл бұрын

What caused them, one was before V1??

@dominicindoubt

3 жыл бұрын

There was a bang before the V1

@johnw4067

3 жыл бұрын

@@dominicindoubt Should have aborted then and there. It happened so close to V1 maybe they wouldn't have stopped in time but would have probably been a better outcome.

Whenever I drive by this place, I always think of the lives lost, and the souls that live on as a result of this tragedy. It did not need to happen. ALL accidents are preventable. Until people get this in their heads, they will always cut corners and not follow all procedures.

@Jesse30621

Жыл бұрын

It’s the “won’t happen to me” mentality. It’s unfortunate so many accidents could be prevented if people followed procedures correctly

@dwbush777

Жыл бұрын

@@Jesse30621 you are absolutely right! 👍

Thanks again for this amazing upload. Your editing keeps on getting better!

Only a year before this, there was another crash out of Miami. Valujet.

@ZyciewKanadzieAnitaBeataVlog

3 жыл бұрын

I remember that day. That crash was due to a faulty cargo, except that plane was full o people...

@sarahalbers5555

3 жыл бұрын

The Value Jet crash should have been a huge wake up call, that was caused by poor management of cargo loading by a sketchy operation, SabreJet. So tragic.

@ZyciewKanadzieAnitaBeataVlog

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarahalbers5555 The Value Jet was actually in May 1996 - my mistake, so yes - that should have been a wake up call back then already.

@wyattwilliams2457

3 жыл бұрын

And the EAL 401 crash that happened 15 years prior, it was due to pilot loss of awareness

RIP to those who lost their lives 🌹💫 Beautifully done video as always, music always give me goosebumps.

@AsIseeitPattiDail

3 жыл бұрын

This is a recorded VIDEO GAME! YOU were fooled!

Love the animations and the airport vehicles doing there jobs not to mention the excellent quality of your video's. You must have a beast of a machine. Thank you again for yet another great video and explanation of an air disaster.

I have literally showed this channel to my cousin to as far as my father and my tusion teacher lmao. And all of them say this is interesting and they like it a lot. They also watch you're videos and now I have showed your channel to 6 of my friends. You're channel is literally an inspiration to my channel. Thank you for making amazing videos and putting so much time and effort just to entertain us. We admire you're work so much!!!

Another great vid. Welp it's been awhile I'm watching your vids, keep it going dude, none of these videos never had bad information bout it, just perfect chanel for aviation lover.

@K1OIK

3 жыл бұрын

vid vids? You are guilty of using unnecessary abbreviations. What did you do with the time you saved? Are you too hip and cool to use proper English?

An absolute miracle of God that so FEW died in this devastating crash. Had those factories full of workers been hit probably toll would be 30-100 victims. Even the red lights were in sync. RIP to the 5 Souls lost !

@generalyellor2187

3 жыл бұрын

Had there been a miracle, none of this would have happened at all.

@psalm2forliberty577

3 жыл бұрын

@@generalyellor2187 Clearly, how one defines "miracle" would affect our Interpretation of this occurance. It was a totally human error to load a plane so fatally wrong - mans mistake - that it falls from the sky and potentially causing massive loss of life. It so easily COULD have (numerous other similar Aviation disasters did) resulted in larger loss that we are amazed. A Gracious Intervention indeed - that many would term 'Miraculous' !

@geoffcarlton4047

3 жыл бұрын

I shall keep thy lights red for when the plane shall pass. Joel 3:8

@psalm2forliberty577

3 жыл бұрын

@@geoffcarlton4047 Now that's a CREATIVE paraphrase Bro

@etangdescygnes

3 жыл бұрын

@@psalm2forliberty577 I do not wish to insult or denigrate you in any way. I am merely curious! As an atheistic humanist I do not believe that any supernatural power is responsible for deadly epidemics (malaria, the plague, typhus, ebola, Covid, cholera, etc.), deadly medical diseases and conditions, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, lahars, landslides, floods, droughts, cyclones, tornadoes, runaway bush/forest fires, crop failures due to pests and plant diseases, lethal lightning strikes, animal attacks (e.g. by sharks), accidental poisonings, etc. I also do not believe that any supernatural power is responsible for the many cases of mass slaughter, torture, physical and mental abuse, and even suicides that have occurred due to religious beliefs and religious persecution. (Obviously, I believe people are the cause.) Many such events involve horrific suffering, sometimes over very long periods. For each baby who survives an earthquake for many days due to small size and baby fat, many do not. In short, I have never encountered a satisfactory answer to the ancient question: "If there is a god/s, why is there so much suffering?" I also fail to see good in burning people for eternity. Perhaps you can enlighten me? (This is NOT an attack on your belief, which I do not even know, but can only guess at. I have been curious about such questions since childhood, but have never received answers that make sense.)

Just wanted to say (as well as your videos being awesome as always) how much better your music editing has got. The transitions between pieces are flawless now.

This channel always makes my day better. Even when I’m depressed and lonely, I watch his videos.

@mikestone3673

3 жыл бұрын

get a life

@Louisiana_Levitator06

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikestone3673 ok

The most heartbreaking line : "No one survived"

@Interdictiondeltawing

3 жыл бұрын

yeah the hardest thing you have felt when these lines say

@osamabinladen824

3 жыл бұрын

It's so sad. 😞

@mohitdhameja5914

3 жыл бұрын

@@osamabinladen824 irony 💀

@leojennings2438

3 жыл бұрын

Even worse when the people on board aren't really to fault, and simply trusted the ground crew too much

@tfi3055

3 жыл бұрын

@@leojennings2438 true

rip to all souls who vanished that day. and btw you are literally amazing for uploading videos in such high quality like i just enjoy and cant think of anything else to say)))

The video didn't describe the implications of the change of aircraft. The replacement aircraft was slightly heavier than the one originally planned and would require 900lbs of cargo to be removed to comply with landing limits. The cargo handlers rounded this up to 1,000lbs. The cargo handler operations manager told the security guard to change the pallet loading form to reflect the 1,000lb reduction, and that he would order the 1,000lbs to be removed when he arrived at work. He then "forgot" to issue the order, meaning that the weight and CoG calculations were based on wrong data - NTSB/AAR-98/02

My father remembers this happening, we live pretty close to KMIA. Was a real tragedy. What surprises me though is I've worked in security in various rolls in and around aircraft, at no point have I ever had an active part in preparing an aircraft for a flight. Ive been asked by flight crews after they've done their walk around if I noticed anything unusual before, but never anything more then that.

I witnessed this from the viewing area on the south side of the airport. There is a lot missing from the way the animation depicts the events. I would love to hear from the creators as I could add a lot to the accuracy of the story.

@greggcharles3021

2 жыл бұрын

interesting...did they contact you...

Man you're so good thx for this wonderful video

A superior contribution, as always TFC!

Always great content. Youre videos show Tremendous amounts of work and amazing attention to detail. Thank you for this channel, hooked for life.

haven’t watched the entire vid yet but i know it will be good.

@josephallen3072

3 жыл бұрын

Same, I liked it immediately first before watching 😂

@pewdiecake5340

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephallen3072 yes,this video deserves one million likes

@manuelcervinobaston4076

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you two and theres i clue look at the smithsonian Channel and look at engine n 4 there flames coming out the engine

@smcdonald9991

3 жыл бұрын

I probably missed something but the 2 "thumps" occurred before rotation. Was it the cargo shifting? Or something else?

@hueyrosayaga

3 жыл бұрын

@@smcdonald9991 Probably

Next time when am on the road and I see red traffic light switch on, I will smile and wait patiently.

I am so glad to see you make this video because I have seen this crash on an episode of Air Disasters which is on Season 13 that I own through Amazon Prime Video.

Found your channel a few days ago and been binge watching a lot of videos keep up the great work.

I miss the normal flight videos you used to make- those were so fun to watch, these just give me anxiety😂

Kind off topic, but love the music after the plane crashes.

@syammohan7962

3 жыл бұрын

Which is the track?

@baxill23

3 жыл бұрын

That's not off topic. It's a comment about the video in the comment section... And I agree, it's good.

@shottame

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one

@MissAsiaMedia

3 жыл бұрын

I do too. I also like when the music changes right before the crash.

Amazing job by The Flight Channel in creating those incredible videos. Lots of time and effort was put into them.

For the first time they uploaded a crash which I already watched the whole investigation but the video was still incredible and kept me wanting to watch till the end. Amazing work.

This is probably why the US Air Force does not have MP's acting as Load Masters.

@redsloane879

3 жыл бұрын

Right?!

@AlaskaErik

3 жыл бұрын

I have almost 5400 hours as a C-130 loadmaster and I always checked my load weights, made sure all locks were engaged and that I had an accurate Form F (weight and balance worksheet). If we were a little nose or tail heavy, but within CG limits, I still let the aircraft commander know. And if we were hauling rolling stock I made sure everything was chained down correctly. In 17 years I never had any issues with cargo loading or weight and balance causing any problem.

@redsloane879

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskaErik that's a great work horse !!

@maureenpirone6234

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlaskaErik I'm sure the pilots and crew appreciate your conscientious efforts! Job well done!

@lajoyalobos2009

3 жыл бұрын

Oddly enough, I have a brother who used to be a load master and a brother in law who's an MP. I couldn't see them trading.

What a sad loss of life & completely avoidable. Too many cutting corner practices !!!

@waterbird91

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I developed a fear of flying. I used to love to fly. Now the planes are up tp 26 years old, metal fatigue, unseen cracks, mechanics making BIG TIME mistakes, as well as the re-fuelers. I can go on & on. Flying isn't so much an adventure anymore. Need to build a transporter room like on Star Trek, or a bridge a ross the Atlantic.(huh), that would be a long time coming. Human error is on the rise when it comes to flying. Oh CRAP, the engine FELL OFF !#$#$%%^&&^*)%$@^, steering wheel came down sideways. Planes need to be able to land like a helicopter because of nasty crosswinds.....gee anything I missed here ?? Yeah, Captain just flew out the damn window, hang on to his feet going 300 m.p.h..Oh look there's a 737 coming at us. So just how does one get to Europe these days ????????????????? in one piece?

@Polentaccio

2 жыл бұрын

@@waterbird91 A little extreme but I get it, I have always disliked flying. I do it, but not a fan. I also have noticed the common thread in a lot of these videos.. cutting corners and lack of proper maintenance. Throw pilot error in with it and you've got yourself a recipe for a few major crashes a year.

Thank u for a superb job of this channel in making these videos!

Your videos are great! Keep up the work!

1. That security guard had the wrong manifest. 2. The Loading crew screwed up big time. 3. The load wouldn't have shifted had they followed regulations, and locked it down the way they should have. 4. the whole thing was like putting a 1,000 pound generator in a 200 pound pickup..... tail heavy.

@Ragetiger1

3 жыл бұрын

with 3, even if they had used the locking mechanisms, the load wasn't balanced properly. I remembered seeing this crash in greater detail, there was a lot of screw up on this one. The way that some were actually placed, the locking device couldn't fit. They even thought at first it was overloaded when they first learned that the weight of the pallets, even the empty ones used to space out the load, were not figured into the manifest.

@channelsixtysix066

3 жыл бұрын

Slack to non-existent company operational procedures. Not following regulations then attempting to cover it up immediately after the crash (they were caught red-handed) after FAA security agents found records in dumpsters.

@commanderc.l.i.t5772

3 жыл бұрын

i remember seeing you comment on tommys show all the time lol its a small internet i guess lol

According to this report, it’s the security guard that dropped the ball. A person who probably made about 10% over minimum wage. Meanwhile, the high paid personnel had no responsibility in assuring the safety of this flight?.? I’m sure I’m not the only person reading these words remembering hearing how your personal tragedy was explained as “We are so sorry for the loss of your loved one. It was the fault of our employee that was doing their job while trying to earn money to go to college/buy a car/wait for a better job/do something they are interested in ...... but our professional people were too busy to deal with the menial task of checking to be sure this was a safe operation.

@cogitoergospud1

3 жыл бұрын

So lower pay entitles you to act incompetently? Hmmm. Hope that attitude works out for you.

@enigmawyoming5201

3 жыл бұрын

@@cogitoergospud1-you missed the point. Lower pay is compensation for less competency than higher pay for higher competency. Most $$$ paid for most competent worker. Higher paid people are more competent, more experienced, more knowledgeable, better educated about the system, and have a reputation to live up to than a person that is “just doing a job that gives him money to get out of his parent’s basement he’s been trapped in for the last 25 years.” I’ll take the former in charge of my safety over the latter .... any day. Otherwise, I’d get my teeth cavities filled by my auto mechanic’s apprentice working after he gets out of high school for the day. Or by you.

@stephenshoihet2590

2 жыл бұрын

He did but it was determined that his error wasn't significant enough to cause the crash.

@deadlysquirrel5560

10 ай бұрын

I guess giving someone the title of "security guard" comes with much lower wages that the more accurate title of "loadmaster".

Hats off to the details you specify in each video. 🙏

As always, an incredible video made with the utmost respect for the people involved who died. Thank you, @TheFlightChannel!

@gunownersmostarecowards9757

3 жыл бұрын

*But IF they Knew JESUS, NOTHING BAD wouLd have Happened to them!!!!*

@kristita_888

3 жыл бұрын

@@gunownersmostarecowards9757 Ummmmmm....that is so terribly insulting to the followers of Christ who experience tragic deaths every day.

@gunownersmostarecowards9757

3 жыл бұрын

@@kristita_888*Thank You, soooo Very Much in ActuALLy GETTING the Point!!!* *I am Proud to say that I just Gave You your First 2-Votes!!!!*

@gunownersmostarecowards9757

3 жыл бұрын

@@kristita_888*I Do Hope that you GOT, more INSIGHTS to ReVile!!!*

@kristita_888

3 жыл бұрын

@@gunownersmostarecowards9757 okay.

I remember this accident very well. I have just retired from the military a few months ago and was working at one of the aviation maintenance facilities located on NW 36th Street. On that day, around 6 PM, I drove by the site of the crash since it was the route that I always took to go to work and return home at the end of my shift. Naturally, there were many signs of the accident around the crash site, however, the traffic kept moving on almost as normally as any other day.

@youtbe999

3 жыл бұрын

I remember that too. I think the guy just bought the very first Kia sold in Miami and he went to show it to his wife at her place of work when that plane fell on him.

@afterhourshotrods6882

3 жыл бұрын

Well evidently your memory sux! I also worked @ MIA for a major cargo airline when this happened not fine air and 72nd. Ave was shut down immediately from 36st to 25st for weeks so you didn't drive by the crash site @ 18:00 that day like you say you did. It took road repair crews weeks to repair the road due to the amount of jet A that was present the aircraft was full of fuel and not all of it burned they had to haul tons of fuel contaminated dirt away per the EPA before they could even start the resurfacing of the road in both North and South bound lanes.

@wilfredosoto2722

3 жыл бұрын

@@afterhourshotrods6882 you’re right, I arrived a week or so after the accident for a new security job in Miami, I was assigned to work at Challenge Air Cargo on NW 67th Ave and NW 36th Street, and NW 72nd Ave was closed down from NW 25th St to NW 36th for a long while. I remember avoiding the area and using Virginia Gardens and Miami Springs back streets to get around from Okeechobee Road coming off of the Palmetto South because I was living in Cooper City at the time.

@Rayhid1956

3 жыл бұрын

@@afterhourshotrods6882 I stand correct. It must have been days after the accident when I did pass by the location of the accident and 72nd was opened to traffic. I did pass by the site of the accident at the end of my shift and at the time mentioned.

Imagine being that guy’s wife and hearing, “Ma’am, your husband was struck by a plane”

@hueyrosayaga

3 жыл бұрын

Wife: "Wasn't he in the parking lot?!" Police: "he was, and the plane was there too"

@CoIoneIPanic

3 жыл бұрын

imagine being that man's wife and reading these comments and seeing some joker being an unfunny, callous jerk. Yes it's too soon, the video has only been up a few hours.

@Marsalien100

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh...Imagine you're sitting in your car eating a sanwitch when all of a sudden a fucking commercial flight comes in your direction 🤣🤣🤣

@CoIoneIPanic

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marsalien100 how do you know it was a sandwich. That's a helluva an assumption to make.

@mateothewizard1024

3 жыл бұрын

@@CoIoneIPanic yeah it could have been noodles.

That's probably one of the most gut wrenching crashes I have known about.... a crash that could have EASILY been prevented from everyone involed. Unbelievable.

wish you had a billion of your posts ! you're work is so GOOD !!!

Can't wait for your new upload every thursday morning!

DC-8 was one of my favorite planes .

@sueloo8305

3 жыл бұрын

Myself also. I did a lot of commercial travel (solo) as a kid, and I also loved the DC-8!! (and the 707, the 727, the DC-10..etc.) I believe I also flew the DC-9 quite a bit. 🤙🤙🤙🙏🙏🙏😉😉💛

@xanienze

3 жыл бұрын

@@sueloo8305 Wow, you're lucky , I've only flown on Airbus A320 , 737 Boeing and once in 747-400

I'm terrified of flying but your videos make me learn so much about aeroplanes and actually easy my flying anxiety! Today I was on a flight from Dublin - Gdansk (12/02/2021) with Ryanair and there was an emergency landing. I know it's very minor, but it would be so cool if you could do a video on it! I am super curious what happened and we didn't get much info (only that the landing gear wasn't working properly). Keep up the amazing work!!

I love every videos of this channel Its like im watching a Movie/film.

I always hate to hear of lives lost over something so avoidable.

@gunownersmostarecowards9757

3 жыл бұрын

*Yeah!!! Like the IraK WAR was sooooo AvoidaBLe!!!!*

@AsIseeitPattiDail

3 жыл бұрын

It's a recording of a damn VIDEO GAME! LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND DON'T BE DUMB!

Watched it within first 5min uploaded. Achievement unlocked 🔓

I appreciate you Flight Channel man.......the more of these I watch , the more I'm finding out the ground crew is the main problem, then the ATC's... not so much the pilot/FO

This chanel is wonderful..im getting my private pilots license..and i feel safe and more informed of all the dangers involved. The animation is so compelling....and no one talks.

I’ve learned from these videos that many things have to happen for it to go wrong very badly. And sadly this video just solidifies it. There was so many chances to avoid it. Sadly people had to lose their lives for it. RIP to all who died

@cheddarcheese6745

3 жыл бұрын

There was a mini glimmer of good luck. Luckily both lights at the intersection were red.

@maggienesin2448

6 ай бұрын

a lot of people refer to the "everything could go wrong went wrong" type situation when it comes to plane crashes as the swiss cheese model. the holes of the swiss cheese line up to create the perfect set of circumstances for the accident to happen. if you watch pretty much any air accidents (like AA 191) this model is a perfect descriptor for the set of circumstances that had to happen in order for the accident to occur. (also sorry if this makes zero sense i just woke up from a hefty nap)

Fantastic job! Always has me coming back for more :)

I don’t know how you do this, or even how you learned to do this. I can say without reservation that this is my favorite disaster channel

The quality of your videos is next level!

Wow! the guy just popped out to get his wife some lunch and perished in his car. Damn that's horrific. Always amazes me that, you work for an industry that's sending lives up into the air, in a machine, you'd think people would do their jobs with more care. RIP to all deceased. Didn't need to happen.

Hears loud thud 4 seconds before V1. Captain: "I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that" Second thud. "Meh"

@vickiweber4718

2 жыл бұрын

After the first thud, I was thinking "ABORT ABORT"

@DrSeuss-nv9hw

2 жыл бұрын

At that speed, you are typically only going to abort for engine for 4 things: 1. Engine Failure 2. Engine Fire 3. Wind Shear 4. Fear that the airplane won't fly today We can rule out the first three. Was the "thud" due to shifting cargo? This video says no. The cargo may have shifted after rotation, when the pitch increased to 30+ degrees ANU. Was it a compressor stall? I'm not sure. However, that airplane would be flyable with a single engine compressor stall. I might be a little more paranoid if I were operating a big, cargo dog like this DC-8. But a high speed abort has it's risks, as well. I went to college with the accident First Officer, Steve Petrosky. We both entered FIT, in Melbourne, Fl., in 1988, to begin our careers. Good guy. Conscientious Pilot. May he and the others RIP.

Keep it up #tfc you never disappoint!!😊

Great video, thanks for your work.

Came here early and R.I.P to all those people who got involved in these crashes. 😭

@gunownersmostarecowards9757

3 жыл бұрын

*OnLy Haters of GOD, ever say RIP!!!!*

What about the two loud “bangs” before rotation? That had nothing to do with the engines stalling in flight due to excessive nose up attitude. What were the loud bangs? Surely they were the cause of the crash?

@ronwilliams357

3 жыл бұрын

They were "thumps" not explosive bangs. Thumps are pretty normal on a takeoff roll (e.g. cupboard slamming shut, unsecured binder sliding back into wall).

@IzzyBill

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronwilliams357 Exactly, and this reminds me of National Airlines flight 102. A weight shift occured do to unsecured cargo detatching from the restraining hooks, then the 747 stalled and slammed into the ground.

@fkwstudio

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronwilliams357 did you watch the video

@philliplosinski985

3 жыл бұрын

excessive noise up attitude is all.

@GaiusCaesarAugustusGermanicus.

3 жыл бұрын

They could have aborted the takeoff

Excellent material, as usual!

i remember this day. i was working at carnival cruislines and saw the fire and flames from my 4th floor window at work.

Humans walk on the tarmac here! I think that’s a first. 👍🏼 Sound effects are outstanding, btw.

The captain should've abandoned takeoff right after the second thump.

@icestarjonathan8895

3 жыл бұрын

No v1 is a speed you can't abort a takeoff cause v1 means takeoof desicion speed

@xnadulxnadul7741

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think they can successfully abort a takeoff after v1

On of my favourite channels by far ..... thanks

Keep up the awesome work tfc

I miss the old theme song. But this still a very good video though, as usual TFC quality.

LOVE those older turbofan engine sounds.

@brianchisnell1548

3 жыл бұрын

Those look to be turbo jets. No fan

Your content is by far superior to that of television shows like Mayday. Keep up the great work.

Flight Channel New upload today! Made my whole evening. RIP sorry for the loss.