What's your favorite muscle bike?

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@STAN yeah, there's a whole new bread of muscle bikes now, but I'd venture to say the vmax is probably still st the top of the leader board. I'm going to try and hit the next harley demo ride and see what they have.

@Twincam808

5 жыл бұрын

Yamaha raider. The one and only 😉

@daveyf6b572

5 жыл бұрын

I am so glad I did not buy a v-rod in 2015. Took a brand new, left over for a test ride from the dealer. Loved it. Very powerful, smooth and comfortable. The only reason I didn't take it home was the financing, 21%. A week later I bought a brand new F6B. I know 3 people who own the v-rod, they all love it, but mechanical issues. 20k on the Honda, gas and oil changes only cost

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Did you see my vid about the raider? I'm also a big fan. Lol.

@Twincam808

5 жыл бұрын

Jon's Moto Garage of course brother. I watch most of your vids 😃 keep up the great work

The V-Rod is a mean machine. I'm on my second V now, a 2016 Muscle. The design, the Revolution engine and the bike's dark presence put it at the top of my list. BTW, Porsche did not engineer the engine as many will say. Harley hired some of Porsche's engineers onboard to assist in taming the engine down and giving it street manners. The engine originally came from Harley's race bike, the VR1000. Being that it was a full blown race engine, putting down ~190-200hp, it was not made for the street and; therefore, would've torn itself apart. This 1250cc Revolution is rated at 125 crank hp. In the spring of '17, I tore mine down and put a Stage 1 kit in it (Vance & Hines Competition pipes, K&N filter, topless airbox and a DynoJet Race Tuner). It now puts 120hp to the ground. A good bump in power for ~$1,000.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch for the info! I always heard Porsche engineered it, but you point out an important distinction there. Lol. I just did my first "subscriber shout out" vid a few days back. I invited subs to send in pics of their bikes, along with a short summary of any mods, and why they like the bike. If you feel so inclined, I'd love to spotlight the vrod as part of the next group. No pressure of course. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!

@allemem1

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage The Revolution engine is, more or less, bulletproof. Before going into production, Porsche ran it through their infamous Dusseldorf Test. In order to pass, an engine must run at WOT for 500 straight hours without failure. 👍

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@allemem1 DANG! That's impressive! Let me know if you start a KZread channel! I'll subscribe for all the interesting info/knowledge! Much appreciated!

@sn0fx

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, HD sent it to Porsche for water-cooling.

@allemem1

5 жыл бұрын

@@sn0fx The VR1000 engine was already water-cooled and was designed and built by Harley Davidson and Erik Buell. Again, HD contracted Porshe to give the VR1000-based Revolution engine street manners.

I just sold my 2014 VRod Muscle... good decision not to purchase this one in my opinion as there should be no weird noises, no knocks, no leaks anywhere. They are finely tuned machines and if maintained properly will be relatively problem free and last forever. Seriously, Porshe doesn't mess around. I loved mine.. identical to the one in the video. It was more comfortable than it looks. Went on many long day trips 300-400 miles no problem... and I have a bad back. I did have a customer seat - Corbin. I also own a 2005 VTX 1800. The VRod is faster, smoother and handles way better. My only two complaints are fuel sensor/fuel gauge issues which are very common with these bikes and the biggie is that I wanted more comfort, more storage and more protection (a fairing) for long rides. I'm closer to 60 years old than 50 if that gives you an idea of where I'm coming from! Other than that if you are looking for a badass bike that is going to be a head turner, and be near the top of the food chain for speed I highly recommend owning one. Safe riding to all!

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience/knowledge with the monster vrod! I'll definitely pick one up when I find the right deal. I've gotten a taste and now I'm hooked. Lol. Ride safe, brother!

@rogerf7265

5 жыл бұрын

The oil leak is more than likely coming from the air box breather hoses. They get old and cracked and then start to leak. The oil then runs down the rocker cover and then pools behind the cylinder. I had it happen on my ‘06 Street Rod. Once I replaced the hoses it wasn’t an issue anymore. I do agree with your comments about the mid controls. My Street Rod has them and it’s great. ‘06 and ‘07 unfortunately were the only years for the Street Rod but it was also the first model for the inverted forks, Brembo brakes and 5 gallon fuel tank. The VRSCD model also came with mid controls. You can put mids from a D on other models but from what I hear it’s pretty involved.

@brandonbowman8619

5 жыл бұрын

Thx Man

@iwillfartonu7

3 жыл бұрын

How tall are you Jeffery? I'm 6"1 and I'm looking at a 2014 vrod muscle. Was wondering if it would be comfortable for me on long rides

@5:23 I agree, my Midnight Warrior is highly modified to be quick AF! Not only that, it sounds like the beast of bikes!

I like how u interact with all your viewers keep up the good work!

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, brotha! I appreciate the support! Thanks for watching and commenting!

The airbox / breather hose are quite tricky to put on right, if you mess it up you get oil everywhere. The oil issue could be an easy fix. However, using wire to hold on the radiator cover is a red flag. I agree with you to pass on this one.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha...yeah, I want digging the overall picture. Aside from that the guy seemed like a cool cat. Lol.

I had a Vrod muscle as my first Harley. Awesome bikes. Very civilized until you get to 5000 rpm, that’s where they start to get gnarly. This one obviously wasn’t taken care of. I might have bought and fixed. Not sure. I have an Ultra now that I’m married and wife rides more. If she ever lets me get a second bike, it would be another Vrod.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Nice! Yeah, after doing my homework, it became apparent the vrod is a lot more motorcycle than I had thought. I've been on the lookout for a good deal since, but they're hard to find. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!

@itsgoingdown1974

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. That powerband around 5-6k is what sets the bike apart. It’s literally like have Nitrous when you crank the throttle at those RPMs.

You absolutely made the right choice with the fork seal leaking and oil spray around the engine. that's the kind of thing you expect from their air-cooled evo motors.

Hi John I got myself a v-rod muscle a year ago and i have no regrets about it, that was my dream bike and my friends with there street bikes didn't believe that there's a Harley Davidson v-rod keeping up with them on the straight line and in corners even if there bikes were modified there was a 1800 he couldn't keep up with us not even in the straight lines he was wondering if i was not afraid of flying off due to my feather weight the fact that am just about 70 kg . It's fun to ride and it got a lot of juice from the bottom to the top i not too long ago given it a custom paint job added a screaming eagle black box with a van Hines competition exhaust it's louder and faster than many other harleys just loving it

@JonsMotoGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah! i finally got my hands on a vrod a few months back. definitely lives up to the hype!

The first ad i got so far your channel growing really fast great stuff jon. You should do a video at end of month of how much you made on ad$!

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha....I just might do that. Assuming I actually make anything. Lol.

What you think about the M109r?in terms of muscle i think it does well against the warrior and vrod.

Really enjoy the vids!

Let's face it!!! This bike is the John Snow of Motorcycles!! It's the Illegitimate Love child of the American Classic Harley, and the sexy, German, High performance race monster. I've had a V-Rod Muscle for a couple of years now, and damn, this bike is so fun!! It brings a certain attitude with it! I feel unique when i ride it, mostly cause i can keep up with, and pass several types of sports bikes, and most old timer Harley enthusiasts HATE it! This is perfect cause i come from a sports bike background, and im just a little younger than the average Harley rider. I march to my own beat, and don't feel like a complete sell out moving to the Harley brand, which i absolutely LOVE!

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah, brotha! I really enjoyed reading your comment! Thanks for watching and sharing!

A few years ago, i so wanted one of these, my dream bike. I never tried one or rode one. Now i have a Ducati X Diavel s and im afraid i wouldn't give the Harley a second glance!!

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

yeah, the diavel seems like a gnarly sport/cruiser hybrid! I was watching em for a while a few months back, but never pulled the trigger on one. I need to add that to my list. Thanks for commenting and watching! Ride safe!

I have ridden the V-Rod muscle for a few years now and love it! Performance wise its an incredible machine! Having ridden sports bikes most of my life! over 40 years riding! It is a great cruiser with a lot of power that a bigger sports bike also has! certainly not lacking in power! in any way shape or form! I have owned a Honda Fireblade! A Suzuki Gsxr 1100, A Yamaha Exups, 1000cc 145bhp which was the predecessor to the R1, also a Kawasaki Ninja 900cc the last model before the Kawasaki z1000! The V-Rod is fast! very fast! Handles great! has a lot of modern technology and is advanced for its time! Love it! not getting rid of mine anytime soon! Love your videos! thanks for this review! but I feel it was not true to the nature of this motorcycle at this time! :). would love to see another review when you buy one!

I rode a Yamaha V-Max back in the late 80's and scared the crap put of me. I was a reckless teen at the time. Now I'm just and inmature reckless adult.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, we both fall into that same category. Lol. I've still yet to get my hands on a vmax. Some day...

@rondavis9918

5 жыл бұрын

did the same thing, never again..

ive got a 13 vrod muscle every day i ride i love it no one around me has this kinda bike,on bike runs even after all theses years everyone comes up to me and tells me out of all the bikes on the run mine is the prettiest bike and the hottest bike there,,its a sunset orange color

How tall are you are? Trying to gauge with your stance.

There was the V-Rod Night Rod special and the V- Rod muscle. There was no just V-Rod during the time that the V-Rod Muscle and the V-Rod Night Rod special were available

Jon i need your help man, i went to look at a kawa mean streak, the bike had been sitting for 1 year there was smoke on cold atart i figure that was old fuel and when i rev it up i notice fire coming from the pipes i know there is a exhaust leak, my question is would u buy it like that if everything else check out? Is this a red flag?

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Personally, I'd walk away from that. But those who are more mechanically inclined/enjoy wrenching may be able to get a good deal and turn a profit. I've become very selective over the years.

You know.. the really overlooked thing about the highball is.. the SEAT HEIGHT.. it's 1/4 inch of Being illegal.. When you sit in it.. not on it.. The gas tank comes upward of the seat.. really nice..the back fender is at my knee caps..😎

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Ha, that's crazy! I didn't realize the legalities behind the seat height. Lol. I am a big fan of the seating position on the highball. Super comfortable, but still feels aggressive somehow.

Just picked up a 2014 with 950 miles on it for 9k cant tell you how much i love this bike.

Had a 2009 loved it , but highway was revved up too high. Needed a sixth gear badly. Couldnt put mid controls on that year. Kept my 109R and sold V ROD. Four bikes in garage was tight. Ride safe!

I have an 05 cvo vrod and I love my thing it's a different from a warrior and the breather tubes crack on these things very often which causes it to look like the vavle cover is leaking.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Nice! Ever since getting a taste of the vrod, I've been keeping my eye out. They're hard to come by these days. Sounds like you've got a keeper for sure!

@D00mknight117

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage vrod fever is definitely a thing man! I hope you find the one 07-14 have 5 gallon tanks and 02-06 are 3.7 gallons

@itsgoingdown1974

4 жыл бұрын

D00mknight117 Yep. I just got an 04 V-Rod and it’ll require frequent fuel stops. It would probably help if I’d lay off the throttle a little, but putting Challengers and Mustangs in their place at stop lights is a requirement when they Rev up next to you.

I just sold my BMW R1200C, and I’m considering a V Rod Muscle or a Rocket III Roadster, which one would you recommend?

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm... I dig the looks of the vrod muscle more. Haven't really gotten to ride either enough to determine which I would prefer overall.

if you see a lot of oil on the top of the rear cylinder and thinks its leaking from seals and or gaskets, double check to make sure it wasn't just over filled or excess oil coming from the vent tube. its easy to see if the bike has been over heated and the oil comes from the air box and down. Very common thing with v-rods.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Good tip! I've run into that before. In this case I also noticed oil coming from the rocker cover. Plus I wasn't digging the engine knock. Lol. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!

I’ve got an 09 muscle and an 05 R1. The v rod isn’t sports bike fast but it pulls hard and is quick for a cruiser. I rode a warrior 1700 as I thought about one of those before buying my v rod. The warrior is an awesome bike but the v rod is a faster bike. The v rod in stock form is capable of 11 second quarter mike times. The rider is usually a limiting factor so it’s definitely no slouch. Plenty of great muscle bikes out there. The Indian scout bobber is also another gorgeous bike that’s pretty quick. The Yamaha raider is also a great one. Can’t go wrong with any of those options but as a v rod owner, I must say it is a great bike. I mounted both tires myself and just changed the plugs. All work done in my garage so it’s not terribly difficult to work on. I also updated the fuel sending unit in the tank. Whatever you ride be safe and enjoy the ride!

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, brother! I love the positive attitude towards all rides! Like you said, whatever you ride, be safe and enjoy the ride! Couldn't of said it better myself. Yeah, all these years I've just imagined the warrior was one of the baddest "muscle bikes" out there. After doing a tiny bit of research, it became evident that I was missing out on some wild rides. Fortunately I take it pretty easy anyway, but it's always good to open up the mind and explore alternatives! You don't happen to have a how-to video on how to mount/dismount motorcycle tires, do you? That'd be awesome! I'm burning rubber fast on my dyna (learning wheelies), and that would save me lots of dinero. (I suppose I could do a youtube search as well. lol.) Thanks again!

@TheTyrone1981

5 жыл бұрын

I’m with you man. I couldn’t do yellow either lol. As far as the tire changes, on my R1 and the v rod front tire, I used the zip tie method to change all 3 of those tires as they aren’t super wide. You can look it up on KZread. For the v rod rear tire I went with a 260mm so had to use regular tire spoons and patience since it’s a wide tire. All in all not too terrible of a job. Save yourself a lot of money and do it yourself if you can. As far as the warrior 1700, I like those bikes a lot. They definitely have some power as well. The v max performance is hard to beat in the cruiser world from what I’ve heard along with the triumph rocket 3. Both bikes I hear are very powerful but in my opinion they’re so ugly lol.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheTyrone1981 yes, my thoughts exactly regarding the rocket. I dig the warrior with drag bars and aftermarket exhaust. the stock bars and exhaust drive me nuts! I busted tires in high school so have some experience. Never messed with moto tires but I'll have to look into it. Thx for the tips, brother!

@TheTyrone1981

5 жыл бұрын

For sure! Take it easy man

@johnscott5662

4 жыл бұрын

Jon's Moto Garage MC Garage has a good video. You have to buy a balancing rack, spoons and rim protectors. I saw an inexpensive balancing rack at HarborFreight.

Go Victory Hammer. Cheap as hell now that Polaris only makes Indian. The motors are awesome and near bulletproof! Very similar styling to Vrod.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I actually had a victory hammer a few months back. It was one of the first bikes I ever bought on the channel. Unfortunately I didn't get much riding on before selling it. Definitely a monster! If you look back through my old vids it was one of the very first ones. Thanks for checking out the channel!

@threehemis5566

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage oh cool I'll check it out. The Hammer really needs some mods to fully appreciate it's potential. Extremely restricted from factory.

You made the right choice. Especially with those issues you saw and heard. I would prefer the Yamaha myself. That’s just my preference. Cheers 🇨🇦

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, man! I hope to pick up a vrod when the right deal comes along. Shout out to my Canadian friends! Ride safe!

Jon, v rod is awesome bike, i would have gotten it, but i always see the fix in anything, I'm sure you will have one some enough 👍

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah! Such an awesome bike!

Love the V Rod and Suzuki Boulevard Boss 109

Looked real good but the engine noise would’ve killed it for me as well. I think the rest of the issues I would’ve fixed and flipped it quick. Since they stopped making them the prices went way up, at least here on the east coast.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, same with the yamaha warriors. All of em are way high.

The Vrod revs to 9000rpm's and has it's torque up high so it's gonna pull hard all the way to redline and therefore will out accelerate the other bikes in that article (minus the Vmax).The Vrod's engine is built like a sport bike whereas the other bikes in that article (minus the Vmax) are really just big bore long stroke cruiser engines (low down torque, low rpm revving engines). Harley Davidson did a good job with the Vrod, but you got to keep the revs up to get the power. Most cruiser riders want low end torque.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

You broke that down perfectly! Thank you! Makes a lot of sense the way you explain it. I'm still on the hunt for a vrod! Shame this one didn't pan out. Thanks for watching and commenting!

If you're looking for a muscle cruiser that pulls like a mofo, check out the Ducati XDiavel or the new Diavel 1260. I'm sorry I sold that bike, I did not dig the forward controls tho.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

CycleCruza! What's up, brotha!? (Big fan here) I've been eyeing the xdiavel for a while. Just haven't found a good deal on one yet. I hear they're pretty gnarly! You and I share the same disdain for the forward controls. Lol. Thanks for checking the vid and commenting!

@thebaddog4104

3 жыл бұрын

Can't you reverse the forward controls?

I'm thinking about getting a 2016 V Rod Muscle with less than 5,000 miles on it.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Nice! I've still been on the lookout, but haven't found anything good.

I just purchased a 2013 VRod Muscle with 1450 miles on it for $10,000 in my opinion your better of spending more and finding a low milage bike... As for the power its tame and easy to ride in the lower half of the throttle but when you grab a fist full hang the @#$%! on... great bike Im loving it...

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah! I agree - better to spend a bit more on something in MUCH better condition! It'll pay off in the end! Sounds like you got a smoking deal! I'm still on the hunt! Ride safe!

@itsgoingdown1974

4 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah. Imagine putting a saddle on a scud missile and then hoping on. That’s what a V-Rod with a throttle pull at 5k RPM compares too.

@sachinverma1120

3 жыл бұрын

2013 with only 1145 miles ..its Metallic Blue with silver stripe.. single owner (showed purchased invoice 3/5/13) asking $10,900 and i closed it for $10k. is it a good deal ?

Bro i have mess with my bike a lot i tuned ,rebuilt the shocks,add air ride ,the bike was out of tune with 5 check engine code and got then all of by changing a few things .even the Harley dealer told me i was a Harley mechanic

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Well done, brother! That's a lot more than I can say. I'm lucky if I pull off a successful oil/filter change. Hahaha. Thanks for watching! Ride safe!

You definitely did it right by passing up on that one. If you want a v rod specifically be patient. There are good deals out there. Some tend to be pricey but good ones still can be found for a decent price. I got mine for exactly $7k and it had 2600 actual miles on it. You can find them

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, there's a real nice one with lower miles, which appears to be in mint condition. The dude is asking $7500 (2010 w/9k miles). My only hang up is the color - it's yellow. Some people can pull it off, but just not my jam. I'll be patient. The top motos on my "to buy" list (in no particular order) are now: yamaha v-max, harley v-rod, triumph rocket, and honda valkyrie.

i really wish harley’s weren’t so expensive. i like this one and the 883 but nothing else appeals to me as much as other brands do

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Right!? Harley makes some rad bikes and I think sets the trend for many others. Shame they cost so much! Lol

Can send me the link, i own a vrod muscle and for 6k ill put in a couple more to get it fixed

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

This was a few weeks back. I checked just now to see if the post was still up and it's been deleted. Sorry, man!

Saw a super moto when I was out riding today asked him if he could wheelie 😂

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha...but can he do a stoppie!?

That's why I purchased a V-Rod brand new the last year they made them because I wanted one but I wasn't willing to buy one used

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Nice! And thanks for the info regarding the v-rod uscle and v-rod night rod. I wasn't aware of that. I'm still on the hunt for a vrod muscle.

@cdistasio

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage hope u find one.. It's a nice bike.. I bought a 2016 brand new in May of 2017... White with the black stripe... Really nice looking bike.. I also have a 2014 Harley Breakout that I put a 120R Harley crate motor on. And a whole bunch of other custom items like rims and pipes. Love it.

I got a ZX14R for a muscle bike and I love it.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

The TRUE muscle bike. Lol. I bet that's a complete BEAST!

@garystratton4125

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage Thank you yes it is more than I need.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@garystratton4125 hahaha...put me on a 250 and I'll find a way to hurt myself. Lol. Those super bikes require some super self discipline. 😎🤘

I am picking up same 2010 vrod muscle 8000 miles for $6500 with 2 aftermarket exhausts and original also some other parts.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Daaaaang! I've been looking high and low here in az - nothing! Snatch that up before it's gone!

@stan9155

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage just saw your massage, thanks for reply. I picked it up, needs front tire and need to polish chrome, wish it was blacked out ike night rod ohh well. Love your channel bro keep up good job.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@stan9155 🤘😎

@stan9155

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Jon, update I rode the vrod for a month and loved it....but sold it for $8500 all in all I made $1000 and experience riding vrod muscle. Time to look for another.

Victory Hammer 106, sexy, mean and custom looking factory bike!

Do you think the raider or styker are more powerfull than the vrod muscle? Also how about the the triumph rocket?

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Great question! I have no idea, but I'm sure someone on here should know. I hear the triumph rocket lives up to its name lol. Someone told itll wheelie on command. Another monster I've yet to get my hands on.

@hfalcon25

5 жыл бұрын

While the Stryker can hold its own, very underrated bike, the VROD has tons more power. Trust me, I know as I own them both :D. Both are fun muscle bikes!! The Raider is a beast, specially in the hands of a good rider.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@hfalcon25 I knew someone on here could speak to this. Thanks for the response! Ride safe!

@davidtappe5337

5 жыл бұрын

Stryker, what a bike. Loved mine. Easy bike to enjoy.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidtappe5337 yeah, sometimes you don't need the "biggest and baddest" to still have a blast. In fact, I usually have the most fun on the smaller bikes (not that the Stryker is a "small" bike). I might check out a Stryker this week. Thx for watching! Ride safe!

I can talk a lot about this bike but for make it short In my opinion the V-Rod is the V-Rod, is a bunch of good bikes out there but the V-Rod packs all I want in a bike.

I like the way they look.....but wouldn't ever buy one.....great video though man....👍👍👍

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha...thanks, man! I have to try everything at least once (only in the context of motorcycles).

$6,500 looks like a good price if you wanted to repair the leaks. The local dealer has a 2017 Muscle just like that one but he’s asking $13,500. It only has 1,200 miles on it though. I’m mulling over buying it. Could get an extended warranty from HD. I really enjoy your videos. You test ride many bikes that I’m interested in. Besides, we’re both the same size physically. How a particular bike fits a 6’+ person doesn’t interest me. 😂. How did the Muscle fit? Aftermarket risers are available. I couldn’t ride a stock setup very far. On the plus side, the vrod is one of the few Harley’s with dual front brakes, inverted forks, and the only Harley with radial tires. The Warrior had all of that but, as you know, Yamaha cancelled a great bike.

@JonsMotoGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it still amazes me how far ahead the warrior was when it came out. Harley didnt go to inverted front forks until 2012 on the vrod (if I'm not mistaken). As far as fitment, I would prefer mid controls, but can tolerate the forwars controls. Lol. I actually picked up a 2011 and 2012 vrod a few weeks back. Haven't done any vids kn them yet, but will eventually. Awesome bikes!

@johnscott5662

4 жыл бұрын

Jon's Moto Garage I’m looking forward to your reviews. I’m a bit of a motorcycle addict and I like your reviews best of all. Be safe and watch those damn wheelies. 😀

@JonsMotoGarage

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnscott5662 hahaha! Thanks, man! I appreciate the support!

I think it’s more comparable to yamaha raider 1900. I would’t take the bike too. Yes it’s cheap for it’s price but fixing it won’t be cheap. Owner didn’t took care of it.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I hadn't thought of that with the yamaha raider...and I have one parked in the garage. Lol. Yeah, the bike needed some tlc for sure. I try to avoid projects. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!

My fav is the Warrior 1700

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Right there with you! I've been eyeing a very tastefully modded one here, but the dude is asking a fortune. We'll see if he comes down on price. Thanks for checking the vid!

@jeffreycole7462

5 жыл бұрын

The RSWARRUOR forum has great bikes for sale

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreycole7462 nice! I never thought of that! Thx for the tip!

Oil is from the breather tube in the air box. $5 repair and no big deal.

@JonsMotoGarage

4 жыл бұрын

I did a bit of research after passing on this deal and discovered it's a pretty common issue on these. Still not sure if I would've picked this one up or not given the overall condition. Thanks for the info! Ride safe!

@karlingmarwiklund8297

3 жыл бұрын

Been there. I rapped the rubber with heat shield when I put it back together. Works great.

WARRIOR or VMAX?

Sounds like a possibly abused bike , engine noise and leaks . It's kinda hard to say no to a beautiful machine but the problems are right in front of you . The bikes dope along with the rims , drag bars would really bring out the look . Love it design

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Beautiful bike, but not the one for me. I'll get my hands on one some day...lol. Thanks for commenting and watching!

@evil_musclemuscled3814

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage you're welcome

Take it back ASAP. rides done

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. I usually get more on it if I think there's a good chance I'll buy the bike. In this case, it was apparent early on it wasn't the bike for me. Thanks for watching! Ride safe!

That thing is beastly.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I forgot to mention the dude was gonna take $6100. I was really stoked on taking it home...until I saw it in person. Lol. That's bust #5 I think. I passed on the drz today as well. Both fork seals were leaking pretty bad. For only having 900 miles, the guy must've ridden it harder than I ride mine. Lol.

@jasem6684

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage Good choice on passing on both bikes. I'm going to be looking at a 2007 Honda Shadow VLX600 Monday next week. Has about 9300 miles on it. I'll get a bike one of these days.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

The honda shadow vlx 600 was my first bike. No complaints as far as reliability. It got me up to [almost] yellowstone and back. My buddy and I turned back cause we were shot. My only complaints are that it's still chain drive, has carbs, and only has 4 gears. I was always looking for that 5th gear. It was a great starter bike though. Personally, I would opt for the shadow spirit 750 2007.5 and up. They changed them to shaft drive. 2010 and up are all fuel injected. Honda has some great bikes though for sure.

@jasem6684

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage Thanks Jon, I will look into the Shadow Spirit 750 as well.

Where in AZ are you?

@JonsMotoGarage

4 жыл бұрын

East Valley (chandler area). Are you here local?

@blackcape22

4 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage yeh im in tucson. I ride a rocket 3.

I forget who quoted this...."looks like a dog trying to fuck a football"....lol. I want to see one of those customized to not look so Buck Rogers. I saw a blacked out one that was ok...but still had the drag bars and weird tank.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha...too funny. That tank does look like a football! Yeah, drag bars and forward controls don't mix for me. I can do one or the other, but not both together.

I guess it would depend on your definition of "gnarly"? The VRod is faster than both the Warrior 1700 and the VTX 1800F. To be frank, the only V-Twin built at the moment capable of outrunning a VRod is a Suzuki M109R.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I completely forgot about the m109r when doing this vid (I've ridden one but it was a long time back). After going home and doing some research, I realized I was way off in my thought that the warrior was a "gnarlier" performance cruiser (yes, I meant fast, powerful, etc.). If you watch to the end of the vid, you'll see that I reviewed an article where they compared a handful the "performance cruisers." The vrod out ranked the warrior and vtx 1800. So, yes, I recant my statement. Lol. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!

@alfrede.neuman8611

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage Hey man, didn't mean to make it sound like I was being critical. Just was wanting to clarify your perspective of "gnarly". It can mean so many things. lol I love my VTX 1800. While not faster than a VRod, or M109R, it'll still put a Warrior and many other cruisers in its rear view mirror. As far as attitude goes...I've always found the VTX's looks to be a lot more sedate than most. It doesn't look nearly as fast as it is...while other bikes look faster than they really are. All about perspective, I guess? I'll give the gnarly nod as a whole, to the Victory line up. Many are critical of the now defunct brand, but Victory was never afraid to take chances when it came to styling. Bikes like the Vegas Jackpot and Hammer 8 ball are some of the best looking attitude cruisers to roll off the showroom floor, IMO.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@alfrede.neuman8611 No worries. You were spot on with your assessment. I didn't get a chance to really open up the vrod, and I was basing my impressions off my experience with the warrior from years back. After starting to edit the footage, I realized I didn't actually have any idea how the vrod stacked up. It didn't take much investigating to realize I was way off. Lol. Thanks again for the info! I can tell you have some solid experience with these machines. Despite having ridden many a moto, I'm very much a newbie when it comes to the in depth stuff. I enjoy learning as I roll.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

And to the victory point: yeah, it's a drag they don't make em anymore. They did such a good job with making a unique, custom looking moto.

Why Harley finish the production of this awesome motorcycle?

Can you please talk about your helmet? It’s very quite..

That was my dream bike before I got my fury. I know Porsche helped with the engineering since performance is so foreign to Harley. Not sure how reliable that revolution engine is though.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm not sure on the reliability either. I'm hoping to get my hands on one that's been better maintained. The fury is a fun bike. I just sold one a few months back. Looked at one the other day but it was a no go. Thanks for watching! Ride safe!

Yeah, you're right, this isn't a full test ride since you didn't get into the power band. On this bike, it's above 9K rpm, the way Porche wanted to design it. Since you claim the Yamaha Warrior 1700 is the "gnarliest" muscle cruiser you've ridden and it has about 40hp less than the V-Rod Muscle, you're absolutely right, you never found out what the bike is capable of.

Yeah, the power band will surprise you

It is ahead of its time,..and everything about it is unique,...they look very cool when you customize it just a little bit,(look up custom vrods).....the best thing about it is its motor is designed by Porsche,..its so much better then a regular Harley,......these will be sought after over time and be considered the best modern Harley ever. They discontinued the Vrods and rockers to put out that new FXDR shitbox thinkin it will take their place,...it wont.,...if you want an FXDR wait two years and get one for $7,00 after they are discontinued. That oil leak is prob the airbox not seated in the valve correctly,..it easy to get that wrong when you take it off to get to the battery,..big pain in the ass on these.There are some other cruisers that are cool but in time they are disposable in the end and they have no real style to them,...these are more then enough power and torque for anyone,...Do people really want to fuckin kill themselves on their bike?,...you better respect the power of any bike. People need to realize that these are the best motorcycle for the money if this is the type of bike your lookin at,.....With something new like the FXDR lets look at it,...After finance charges and interest at least $$25,000,..Reg and title plus taxes on $20 plus grand,..a fuck load,...then FULL coverage insurance$$$$$$$$ then at least $4,000 of after market to be able to look at without cringing. Yes ive got a semi custom Muscle,...its ultra fast ,.loud,..one of a kind,..picked it up three year ago for $9,500 cash,...$100 a year to insure,....org battery replaced,..thats it.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

That's my style right there! Well said! If I ever run across a good deal, you can bet it'll end up in my garage! Thanks for sharing your experience and passion of the vrod. Ride safe!

@mikecarriger5326

5 жыл бұрын

I will b 62 in July and going 2 retire have a 01 vmax if everything works out gotta get that 2nd gen what i like about em y can putt putt with the Harleys or vromm vromm with a croch rocket !!

My vrod has 2 into 1 Vance and Hines competition pipe.power command and jet pak kit power in every gear

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I bet that bike is a beast! Thx for watching and commenting! Ride safe!

Night Rod is the only way to go if you want a vrod

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the night rods are pretty slick!

id keep that bike

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, had it not been for the oil leak and engine knock, I'd of love to bring that bike home. Then we could really run it through the paces.

if ur a harley guy, why would u hate the v rod. jealous?

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I don't consider myself a "harley" or "honda" or really any specific brand guy. I'm down to ride just about any moto with two wheels. If I come across a good deal on a v-rod I'll pick it up for sure.

So frustrating that you didnt open it up properly! You didnt use the full rev range of 9k and had no real experience with the V Rods power at all! The engine does sound high pitched as do all V Rods. I think next time you go for one you need to do more research as you have cheated yourself out of a killer ride!

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%! Thanks for watching and commenting! I got just enough of a taste to know I need more. Lol.

@TheNightmaro79

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage I hope you get another chance man! Safe riding! P.S. your wheelies are coming on great! 😎🤘

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheNightmaro79 Thx, man!

You should have bought the other one sitting in the garage

Warrior

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I dig the warrior. The m109r was too much for me. Lol. Thanks for watching!

Yea man that bike been abused i saw the build up oil leakin everywhere!!

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, hard pass. Hahaha.

@brandonbrowning8273

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage did he have 2 of the v rods? I saw one when you pulled in his garage

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@brandonbrowning8273 yeah, the second was a 2017 I think. He had just picked it up. Basically the same, minus oil leaks and the engine knock. Lol.

@brandonbrowning8273

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage god that guy got ripped off for those then lmao

Or m109

@itsgoingdown1974

4 жыл бұрын

mike eger I love the look of the M109 Boss. Absolutely beautiful machine. I got a V-Rod because I absolutely lucked out and found one listed 3 hours away within minutes of it being posted and it was absolute steal at the price. I had my first bike, 1999 Victory v92c (ugly as can be, but engine was strong), listed and needed to sell it first to buy something else (wanted a 02-05 Dyna Super Glide Sport). I had to dip into savings before letting the V-Rod get away. Thankfully, was able to get a buyer for the Victory the next day. So, I basically upgraded from an old Victory with bad paint, no front brake, no turn signals, worn out back tire, no horn and fuel leak to an 04 V-Rod with 29k miles, near perfect cosmetic condition, with a bunch of extra stuff (fairings, exhaust, bike cover, trickle charger, service and parts manual) for only a $2400 difference.

That bike been beat down i have a2009 vrod vrscaw

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was very bummed that it didn't check out. Ill get kne eventually. Thx for checking the vid!

Still can't figure why H.D. ever made this bike !

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@jdlee has some interesting insights on it

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Apparently they had Porsche help em out with the design. Not sure the exact reasons but maybe to compete with some of the other brands.

Raider would roast it

@kylevand1442

4 жыл бұрын

Mine has roasted one or two...or three...😬

@JonsMotoGarage

4 жыл бұрын

Nice!

I ran a warrior and destroyed it

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've heard the vrod is no joke.

them v-rods are made/designed by Porsche

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I remember hearing that. Didn't know if it was true or not.

@jdleestirringthepot6421

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage yeah its true Harley keeps tryin to find something to save the ass from goin out of business , hell Harley is now in the E-Bike business , until Harley learns to lower their HIGH ass prices and make a more quality product they will never stay in Biz

@281sTravel

5 жыл бұрын

@@jdleestirringthepot6421 .....Typical dipshit comment. Harley's prices are comparable to any other brand in the same class. And why can't Harley expand into electric bikes? If it were any other brand, you would be bragging about how innovate they are. Further more they cut the vrod because noone was buying them.

@jdleestirringthepot6421

5 жыл бұрын

@@281sTravel so u act as if your Harley opinion is right and Im wrong hummmmm ok .....iv been around a minute kinda know motorcycles ...i grew out of the harley pipe dream yrs & yrs ago ...signed dipshit lol

@281sTravel

5 жыл бұрын

@@jdleestirringthepot6421 ...See the thing is Dip we have this thing called the internet where we can fact check dumbass opinions. And I don't care how old you are. I see plenty of dumbass people who are old all the time. Here I'll give you an example. Street glide special $26,000 Indian dark horse $25,000. How's that your an opinion for ya? Lmao

Of course it leaks oil it's a Harley

@eddiebenzz

5 жыл бұрын

Junk it ... Go Japanese ☝️

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha...I've had other bikes that leak oil as well. But the harleys seem to lead the pack. Even harley dudes admit to that one. Lol. Ride safe, brotha!

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@eddiebenzz Hahaha!

@zf4hp24

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonsMotoGarage Jon, oil on the backside of the engine is a mis-attached breather hose between the air-oil separator in the airbox and the fitting on the top of the rear cylinder's camshaft cover. This hose also is prone toward cracking, which will puke oil all over the backside of the engine. Also, for future reference, all Revolution engines have that characteristic "whine" at idle - it's the balance shaft drive gear, which is straight cut. The radiator shield tie-wrap is a fix for a busted locator pin cast into the plastic - a common break item when removing the shield. The repair manual warns against this. Unfortunately, all the painted plastic on this bike is $$$$$ and takes a while to order from the factory. I love my Muscle and it's been fantastically reliable. You really need to experience one wide open.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

@@zf4hp24 Thanks for the info! I definitely plan to pick one up as soon as the right deal comes along. The noise didnt come through well on whe video but it sounded like a knock. Overall the bike was more of a project than I wanted to take on. Lol. Thanks for checking out the vid! Ride safe!

Very nice bike but Harley-Davidson has a uphill battle to win over the young people number one they cost too much number two young people like the Japanese bikes extremely inexpensive and reliable the tables have been turned on Harley they have nothing to offer the young man or woman

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

You bring up some great points. It's definitely hard to justify spending so much on a harley when you get way more with a metric cruiser. I wonder if the new club scene is making any impact at all. I imagine it's a very small subset of harley riders who are actually into it (myself included). Thanks for watching and commenting!

У меня тоже такой есть. :-/

V-Rod is the hairiest hog i've ever been on fast af

Get a Vmax.

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

I've been looking! They're a rare bread these days. But rest assured, I'll snag one as soon as the right deal comes along. Thanks for watching! Ride safe!

not reliable maybe

I would walk away it’s been abused and I didn’t make it to the end of the video

@JonsMotoGarage

5 жыл бұрын

Nice! At least we're on the same page. I passed on this one. Thx for checking the vid! Ride safe!

Best theft deterrent, buy Japanese bikes. They'll risk getting shot to steal a Harley out of your garage.

It's a Harley.. Leaking oil is standard.