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COURTROOM INSIDER | Secret recordings, Melani and Ian take the stand and attorney is asked to leave
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Tonight on 'Courtroom Insider' - so much to talk about! Melani and Ian Pawlowski take the stand, secret recordings are played for the first time and Judge Boyce asks attorney Garrett Smith to leave the courtroom. Tune in!
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Sorry, but her children were classified as 'dark', and she no doubt colluded in the attempted murder of her then husband. Can't take her sweet act seriously.
Chad Daybell has about as much charisma as a baked potato. How could anyone think of him as "leader" material? 😐Lol
@FaithM1976
3 ай бұрын
That's what I was wondering too😆
@Yikes70ish
3 ай бұрын
Or a husband?
@Robin-rp4wj
3 ай бұрын
Actually, baked potatoes are much more interesting
@gingermckee1811
3 ай бұрын
…but he led several people to their deaths.
@lauries.nicewaner3876
3 ай бұрын
@@Robin-rp4wjyes!
I do NOT trust Melani. Especially after hearing her audio!
@zanpsimer7685
3 ай бұрын
Neither she nor Ian are credible. Nate suggested Melanie’s opinion of Lori and Chad has changed. I don’t get that impression at all. I think she and Ian are posturing, trying to put themselves in a better light before Lori’s trial. Melani is scared sh*tless she will be charged in Brandon’s attempted murder. And she should be charged. I hope they gather enough evidence to charge and convict her.
@johngraff376
3 ай бұрын
@@zanpsimer7685 That dumb chick drives me crazy. I do blame the Cox Cabal for her damaged self but there is something maddening about her clinging to this group ideology. Yes she belongs in prison for her active participation in so many deaths.
@Tawadeb
3 ай бұрын
@@zanpsimer7685Melani should be charged with attempted murder of Brandon
I don't believe Melanie is as clueless as she pretends to be. Brandon also had a million dollar life insurance policy, and she was the beneficiary. When Tylee and JJ's bodies were found in Chad's yard, she gave a statement defending Lori and Chad. She should have been charged.
@johannawigg6921
3 ай бұрын
I didn't know she supported them after the kids were found !
@bbe3034
3 ай бұрын
Who was Brandon’s wife or exwife? And how was he related to Melonie? Thanks.
@heartsmyfaceforever8140
3 ай бұрын
Alex lori and Chad weren’t going to have access to the money without Melani and they certainly weren’t going to take all the risk and put all the effort in to get rid of Brandon without knowing they’d get a cut of the money
@Jem395
3 ай бұрын
@bbe3034 Melanie is Brandon's ex-wife.
@Jem395
3 ай бұрын
Ben Affleck roasts tom Brady
Mel is so full of CRAP. if someone told me I need to move because the cops are gonna keep harassing me about my niece and nephew I be like "where the kids?" if I wasn't involved. not "ok, ill move." tf?
Melanie saying Alex couldn’t join them in Hawaii because Chad needed his help was HUGE. It was when Tammy got murdered. Chad needed Alex’s help. What a demented group of people
@johannawigg6921
3 ай бұрын
My mouth dropped open when she said that !!!
@julietchristensen3957
3 ай бұрын
😭 Premeditated.
@GoldieJoRv
3 ай бұрын
Just unreal, she had to know also in my opinion.
@lynnpowell-macklin7328
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, you would think Prior would want to stop pointing out how he follows Lori everywhere.
@carries8748
3 ай бұрын
I so agree, they are wacky
Ian is the poster child for not marrying someone two weeks after you meet somebody. That all was weird in its self.
@julietchristensen3957
3 ай бұрын
But their prophet told them to! 😄🙄
@ivelearnedalot8354
3 ай бұрын
Arranged marriage I bet
@ivelearnedalot8354
3 ай бұрын
Julie Rowe is Whacko
@madsdee7803
3 ай бұрын
@@ivelearnedalot8354 Julie is still trying to profit (and prophet) from these crimes. $$ from podcasts and she's still spreading the message that she is a 'leader' who 'hears God'. She wants to lead the cult now.
@kimmoore0427
3 ай бұрын
LDS couples marry super fast because they don't believe in premarital sex!!! I thought everyone knew that? Hello
They were setting Brandon up like they did with Charles. Brandon was suddenly "gay" so Melani could leave (like Charles was suddenly "cheating" so Lori could leave). Then they had his driver's licence (like they had Charles' car) and his credit cards (like they tried to do with Charles). They wanted him to have no one like they did to Charles who begged for help and sounded like the crazy one to police.
@texasgina
3 ай бұрын
I remember in the very beginning when all of this was going on Brandon was hiding with his kids because he was in fear of his life and the kids lives. He was giving interviews and he looked terrified he is so blessed to be alive
@MsFitz134
3 ай бұрын
I recall at one point Melani argued that she should have full custody of the kids because Brandon was gay. I think she forgot which century we live in.
Nate. You can talk about your family, your kids, what you had for dinner…..whenever you want. Those meanies that just want you to stick to the case can go elsewhere. We love you Nate Eaton!
@feijoaify
3 ай бұрын
Ditto!
@jackiek412
3 ай бұрын
Ditto !
@jlauren7198
3 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree!
@allisonhaskell5440
3 ай бұрын
Exactly ! Kinda breaks up the evil of some people . Hear normalcy 🫶🫶🫶.. plus it’s your channel , your time .. owner rules and majority rules ! 🤣🤣❤️
@therealz360z7
3 ай бұрын
It's ridiculous part of Nate's charm is he is so relatable .
The fact that IAN immediately thought of protecting his own kids and ex wife once Melani told him about the whole light and dark says it all....
@patelvidhi
3 ай бұрын
But still, he got married to Melani. What a creepy guy is he.
@megmeyer7563
3 ай бұрын
Yes but us he still married to Melanie? Because she is a problem too.
@Yahoocommenting
3 ай бұрын
He is not only still married to Melanie he has kids with her. Disturbing.
@mysonsmom9754
3 ай бұрын
He’s still married to her and they’ve had children together. Even, I guess, knowing she was privy to Brandon’s shooting and the fact her kids were rated dark and could very well have been next on the zombie disposal list. Is this man THAT desperate to be married to someone? Anyone? It’s crazy to me.
@madsdee7803
3 ай бұрын
@@megmeyer7563 Melanie was raised by crazy Lori who played with her brain, taught her to cry "abuse" to get "saved", to expect t be treated "like a princess", and raised in the religion where people do whatever a "leader" (even a self appointed one) says.. She needs to be single and sort herself out. Get a job, get therapy, be welcomed to reality.
"I want Brandon to be scared of Uncle Al for the rest of his life. Lol." Melani should be charged with conspiracy in Arizona.
@gingermckee1811
3 ай бұрын
Yeah I think “daddy” wanted uncle Al in heaven asap before the bloom fell off marital rose #5 with “mommy” and Al got called back to protector duty once again!
@bowermancrystalmail
3 ай бұрын
She IS charged with that! Lol
@ajordan1976
3 ай бұрын
She also said " I am so happy Braxton and Breezy will be with their uncle Al" 😮
@Kimmer
3 ай бұрын
@@ajordan1976Do you know who Braxton and Breezy are? Just curious. Reading between the lines, I'm thinking they must be relatives who have died previously?
@kimmoore0427
3 ай бұрын
@@bowermancrystalmailwhat are you talking about? No she's not. If she were, she DEF wouldn't be able to testify as a witness here
I hate to say this but… I think Melani believed Chad and Lori whole heartedly and I always felt her kids were in danger …….and I think if it wasn’t for her ex husband Brandon her children would not be alive!!! She is just as wacky as the rest of them !!!
@NancyDrew1
3 ай бұрын
Totally. Made it clear when Alex passed away they would have company.
@gaiagreen2690
3 ай бұрын
These secretly recorded conversations do prove that Melani Pawlowski actually planned for two of her own children from Brandon to be murdered next, as well as Brandon himself. Ian Pawlowski may be staying with her to protect their child. I don't understand why so many people think that both Melanies as well as Zulema have some sort of immunity. The law can order and/or compel individuals to testify when it comes to murder trials, especially with child victims, and for any of these women refusing to testify would increase the likelihood of being investigated themselves. I am inclined to think that after the two main criminals in this case are tried and convicted, we will see more charges against others involved, like both Melanies etc.
@Tawadeb
3 ай бұрын
That video of the cops stopping her and Alex taking the kids from Brandan is very very creepy
I'm on the replay crew tonight Nate and I just wanted to say thank you for these nightly breakdowns. All your coverage of this case from the beginning has been phenomenal, top knotch. You not only follow and find the facts, but your compassion and consideration for the victims & their families is second to none. You are a living breathing example of what a true dedicated journalist is
@marshapieroni6677
3 ай бұрын
Agreed. I am unable to sit and watch the entire thing and even while I watch, I don't understand it all. He puts it all together.
@crystalinabacteria3430
3 ай бұрын
Nicely said
of course Mel P is gonna be nice. shes gotten away w attempted murder and conspiracy. 🙄🤦🏼♀️
@marshapieroni6677
3 ай бұрын
Seems she's still able to manipulate Ian too! Marriages that happen within 2 weeks of people meeting do not usually last according to statistics, and I bet Ian was floored hearing what he heard on his wedding night. But man,he came right back to the crazy soon after, blaming Brandon and the cops, and anyone else he could find.
@4MAGA
3 ай бұрын
I may be wrong but I think it was Ian that wore a wire, regardless both are criminally insane. Imo
@heartsmyfaceforever8140
3 ай бұрын
Ian knew exactly what was going on. The marriage was arranged.
@KayRoxy92
3 ай бұрын
@@marshapieroni6677she learned from the best, dear Mama Lori
@DR-bp1yu
3 ай бұрын
Please thank your family for lending you to us, I know it probably wouldn't be their choice to have you away as much, but I'm grateful they understand and support you.
Melanie looks completely disinterested, even contemptuous, while Ian talks about falling for her. What a sociopath. Yikes!
@madsdee7803
3 ай бұрын
She learned from her Aunty to think of men as money and use her body to get what she wants. What a shame her mother didn't live to teach her about the real priceless things in life.
@Eyes.WideOpen
3 ай бұрын
She looks at the floor when he talks about their lobe. She has dead eyes
@raqueacevedo1509
3 ай бұрын
@@madsdee7803 and all the Cox's family... they're definitely cucu...
@kimmoore0427
3 ай бұрын
Honestly I think she's following the LDS religion and acting subservient to her husband by not intersecting and staying quiet. Like a stepford wife. Isn't it weird and disturbing???
@kimmoore0427
3 ай бұрын
@@Eyes.WideOpenread my comment below yours
Judge Boyce proved he was Taking No Nonsense in Court today, &.the Prosecution Team stood Strong.😊
@ivelearnedalot8354
3 ай бұрын
I bet Boyce has had enough of prior and his antics.
@macb8309
3 ай бұрын
@@ivelearnedalot8354It doesn’t take long…
Melani testified that Alex was supposed to be in Hawaii but he stayed back because chad needed help with something, this was when Tammy was killed, how is everyone missing this??
@RLS1
3 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone has missed it. Especially since the CAST agent and other agents that have testified about the gps data and device locations have already placed Alex and Chad's locations to be at Chad's home on every major date in this case and only on those dates. Including the night Tammy was murdered. I think this jury would have to be sleeping through testimony not to see that by now. I think Prior is fighting a losing battle.
@marlenemeyer9841
3 ай бұрын
I really hope the jury caught it! It’s very damning evidence against Chad for premeditated murder!
@MissJensk1
3 ай бұрын
@@RLS1Yeah they know about Alex's location, but the fact this was said hasn't been mentioned.
@kimmoore0427
3 ай бұрын
What makes you think we're "missing it"? It's only been mention THIS time when Ian testified to it. What are you even talking about?
@RLS1
3 ай бұрын
@@MissJensk1 Oh, of course I knew that. You're correct it was new information. I thought they meant it was being skipped over today after it was mentioned.
Ian saying that he liked how she interacted with his kids while she was actively discussing with her “mama” and “daddy” how dark her kids were?!? 😱
I have a hard time understanding the way these people think, including Ian. Children were missing for months, two adults have been murdered, there's been one attempted murder of Brandon, two of Melanie's kids have been deemed dark meaning they were on the hit list as well, and they think they should be treated with kid gloves. The stupidity and narcissism are unbelievable.
@EffSharp
3 ай бұрын
I agree. These people are all narcs. They all believe they’re sooooooo special and god talks directly to them. It makes me sick.
@tngirl79799
3 ай бұрын
It's mind-blowing
@crystalship9900
3 ай бұрын
Absolutely and well said!
@iffyangel3380
3 ай бұрын
Ian didn't meet Melanie until after Charles, Tylee, JJ and Tammy were deceased. He found out the night they were married about Melani beliefs. He went directly to police and recorded from there. What more could he have done? The others are nutz, including Melani and she should have been charged too!!!
@trailertrish
3 ай бұрын
the fact that Ian stayed w Mel after she tried to kill Brandon is insane to me.
Justice for Tylee, JJ, Tammy and Charles!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻😥😥🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you Nate for always being our boots on the ground. I respect and appreciate you as a dedicated journalist and an amazing human being. ❤
I hope CPS monitors these parents
@nandtc1
3 ай бұрын
Figures you have 666 in your monikor. Too soon to joke as JJ and Tylees grandparents and family watch this. Plse have some compassion
@4MAGA
3 ай бұрын
@@nandtc1 very strange thing for you to say, please explain.
@cheesehead4670
3 ай бұрын
@@nandtc1are you ok? 🙄
@TeaSpiracy
3 ай бұрын
@@nandtc1it's 6661 and I'm pretty sure she means Mel P. & Ian should be monitored. You read this the wrong way imo and it was rude
@gabriellarigoulot8581
3 ай бұрын
It’s just a number at the end of the name. I’m guessing they didn’t put that I have 8581 at the end of mine I didn’t chose it
Melanie knew those kids were dead. And two of her own were next. Did you hear her say “brazier and bezie will be with Al”. This was AFTER Al was dead. Throw them all in prison!
@PanicattheDiscourse
3 ай бұрын
When they charge her can the add on a misdemeanor for those names?
@doreenbarnett4451
3 ай бұрын
She totally knew her two kids were dark and admitted that they were going to die in that phone call!! I can’t believe she’s walking away a free woman!!
@Eyes.WideOpen
3 ай бұрын
I don't know Why the police would give her immunity, she hasn't testified anything of relevance against chad and she listened to the news and previous testimony so she couldn't testify at Lori's trial. Neither Melanie's said Anything that could be used to imprison these two, so Why give them immunity? Aren't you suppose to give Something of value in exchange for that?
@cheesehead4670
3 ай бұрын
How did l miss that? Do you have a time stamp?
@Veetribe.
3 ай бұрын
I heard that too...she was basically telling herself she would be comfortable with her 2 dark children being WITH ALEX,,Alex was already dead?
Ian is cringeworthy with all that goofy love dove crap trying to paint a good persona of Melanie.
@raincadeify
3 ай бұрын
It's revolting.
@KayRoxy92
3 ай бұрын
He's Prince of the Simps. Chad is King of the Simps
And her husband Ian is ridiculous for believing her and putting his kids at risk with this crazy woman
@heartsmyfaceforever8140
3 ай бұрын
Ian was already in deep with this group. It was no coincidence they got married so quickly like everyone else in the group.
I can’t stand Chads monotone and mumbling speech!!
@RDnAC
3 ай бұрын
💯 agree
@kimmoore0427
3 ай бұрын
Omg Garth also spoke exactly like Chad, in his 911 call. Both have zero communication/social skills. I'd say "Spectrum much"?
@Monica-gene1
3 ай бұрын
@@kimmoore0427 yup I agree.
@peppermintpetty6766
3 ай бұрын
He sounds like an obscene phone caller! 😂😂😂😂😂
Melanie P’s testimony was a huge lie fest
@bethdoxey4536
3 ай бұрын
I believe or I can’t remember…give a definitive answer for God’s sake we know you know the truth!
@raincadeify
3 ай бұрын
And yet, LDS-in-good-standing-Ian hears her lie on the stand and stays with her??
@gaiagreen2690
3 ай бұрын
@@raincadeify That is one of the really contradictory and disturbing parts of his behaviour.
Melanie has a forced and uncomfortable smile. How much life insurance did Melanie get on Ian?!?!
@greenman6141
3 ай бұрын
I've heard people say there was a $1million policy on Brandon that Melani had taken out. But I do not know that is true. What I DO know is true is about the money from the sale of the marital home. If Brandon had died on the day that Alex shot at him, on THAT one day...Melani would have got the ENTIRE value of the sale of their marital home. Not just half. As is usually the case with divorces, everything was done, except the division of the assets from the sale of the home. The Decree Nisi is done, but the Decree Absolute (or Judgement Absolute..or whichever term any given state uses) isn't signed by the Judge until the money from the house sale is cleared and divided between the ex spouses. The house sale JUST concluded. Brandon moved out over the course of basically one day - he said it was super quick, which is why no one apart from Melani had been informed, he was too busy rushing to move out, so the sale could go through. The buyers took possession. The money exchanged hands...but the Judge had not yet signed the Decree Absolute. Had Brandon died THAT DAY, Melani would have pocketed ALL the house sale money. That is why the timing of the attempted murder would SO important to Melani, Melanie (who appeared shortly after the shooting, knocking on neighbors' doors, neighbors' of Brandon's new home, which only Melani knew the address of, asking the neighbors if they knew "what had happened". She'd been sent over to find out if Brandon HAD been successfully murdered.), Lori, Chad, Alex et al, that Brandon be murder RIGHT THEN. They wanted ALL the money. They wanted him dead before his attorney popped the Divorce paper over to the Judge to sign. It was so clearly timed with a purpose. A greedy purpose. The usual Chad and Lori purpose.
@joannemurdock7899
3 ай бұрын
Wait, so Alex shot and killed Charles and shot at Brandon 😮?? And was Never Jailed 😮??
@greenman6141
3 ай бұрын
@@joannemurdock7899 Arizona. Everyone in Arizona EXCEPT the police knew Alex had murdered Charles. When the Arizona police were finally forced to really LOOK at the killing, they noticed that Charles had been lying on the floor and was shot by someone standing over him. NOT what Lori, Alex and Tylee had described. All they had to do was LOOK at the floor. That was it. But they didn't. I expect it was local police. But the police in Arizona have been under Federal investigation for over a decade for violence, corruption and incompetence.
@peppermintpetty6766
3 ай бұрын
@@joannemurdock7899The Arizona police department are a bunch of Keystone cops! They didn’t investigate Charles and Brandon’s shootings properly!
So Ian actually believes that melani wasnt involved in trying to kill Brandon? People are just unreal.
@mwalt2628
3 ай бұрын
Right???
@EmilyLynn0529
3 ай бұрын
Yeah not sure how she’s not being charged with Attempted Murder of Brandon?? Nate, can you explain?
@justsamantha1833
3 ай бұрын
Probably because she has immunity
@janaboschi2762
3 ай бұрын
Didn’t Brandon have a hefty life insurance policy?
@pipinato
3 ай бұрын
Chad is the mastermind and hasn't been charged either .... They don't have enough to ensure a conviction
Wow…something stinks with Ian too or he’s just an absolute fool. Thank god he went to the police, BUT, that letter he wrote was eye-opening. That he didn’t bolt from the melani scene immediately after playing spy is telling. According to the letter, he didn’t think anything melani said was very damning? Ok, maybe he didn’t know Alex was dead and didnt understand why she was comforted that her kids “would soon be with Alex”-but she revealed a lot to him so…what then? he couldn’t read between the lines? He should have run far from her-he has children for God’s sake and now having babies with her. No she does not get a pass for having been indoctrinated into a cult. Melani is also a liar and manipulator. And a bad liar at that.
@janetdouglas1272
3 ай бұрын
He said he wanted to be the Hero to rescue her from these people. And it is so obvious she is a dimwit, slow, not very bright at all!
@jsthecat
3 ай бұрын
It's lust and being shallow only what is on the outside that counts. There is no depth in that relationship.
@dragonmummy1
3 ай бұрын
I think he wrote the letter as an alibi for Melanie
@lindaluppino5870
3 ай бұрын
It also disgusted me how Chad glemmed when Prior started talking about Chads blessings..his blessings made me feel ill
@raincadeify
3 ай бұрын
@@lindaluppino5870 How Chad did what?
Melani P behaved badly when she showed up out of the blue at Brandon’s parent’s house. She was with Alex and trespassing - also Alex may have had a weapon with him so the kids would not have been safe with them. It is awful that Ian ruined his family and put his family in peril for some sex.
@joannemurdock7899
3 ай бұрын
Was Ian married b4 he met Melonice?
@Tawadeb
3 ай бұрын
@joannemuryes and with kids. dock7899
Imagine this group of demented people casting out zombies in a ritualistic ceremony of sorts. It would be laughable if it weren't tragic.
@TeaSpiracy
3 ай бұрын
Or Zulema trying to change the weather 😂
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE AWARDS FOR YOURSELF AND FOR EAST IDAHO NEWS!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Melanie P. was DEFINATLY in the middle and knew the kids were dead.
@MissJensk1
3 ай бұрын
"definitely", not "defiantly".
@dorothywillms115
3 ай бұрын
@@MissJensk1you didn’t get it right either🙄
@MikedeGarry
3 ай бұрын
@@dorothywillms115 😁
58:54 am I the only that heard Melani say (about Melanie) she’s gonna throw ALL of US under the bus?!?! Under the bus for what, Mel? If you knew nothing, how could she throw you under the bus?
And I’m sorry but the mommy and daddy coming from a grown mother because it’s been a couple days since you’ve talked was cringy
@madsdee7803
3 ай бұрын
I bet Chad told her she was their daughter in a few former lives.
@johannawigg6921
3 ай бұрын
@@madsdee7803I think he did say she was his daughter in some probation 🤔
@Twinkle_Toes88
3 ай бұрын
🤢🤢🤢🤢
@raincadeify
3 ай бұрын
@@johannawigg6921 Doesn't really change anything. Melani is as looney as Lori.
@johannawigg6921
3 ай бұрын
@@raincadeify and Zulema ... wow!
Why didn’t any prosecutor ask Melani why she didn’t ask where the kids were, when she moved to the apartment
@SD-co9xe
3 ай бұрын
She was asked and she said she was told he was with a nanny. But I don’t think she is telling the full truth.
@LoriEvans-dp7kg
3 ай бұрын
The prosecutors asked Melanie if she asked about the kids when she went to Idaho to visit Lori, when she & Lori went to Missouri & when they went to Hawaii. Melanie said she gave unclear answers like a nanny (& possibly Tylee) was helping JJ & Tylee was with college friends.
@MissJensk1
3 ай бұрын
They did
melanie gave the bare minimum of info.
@dsmusicbird
3 ай бұрын
She was definitely careful with her words.
It disgusts me the way Ian speaks about their children and how important they are in the interview. RIP sweet angels Tylee and JJ 🕊️ 🩷🩵
@raincadeify
3 ай бұрын
And yet not even meeting them before marraige or including them in the wedding. Total disregard for the kids.
So, Melanie used Ian ... if they didn't get caught his days were numbered too..
Watching from Michigan. Nate, thank you for your excellent coverage of both Lori's and Chad's cases. You go above and beyond, which I know I appreciate as well as everyone else does...
I think that Melanie P. Knew exactly what happened to those kids. Something that was said in Ian’s calls sealed the deal for me.
@stacy6994
3 ай бұрын
If I heard correctly Melanie says do you want any of Alex's stuff. She said Alex said we could just give it to DI. So Melanie knew he was going to kill himself? They don't say don't do it, no they discussed his belongings? She definitely knew
@TeaSpiracy
3 ай бұрын
AND she said two of her kids "would be with Al" (Brazer and Bezie?) and that was after AL was already dead!
John Prior talks over the witnesses ALL OF THE TIME!
@EmilyLynn0529
3 ай бұрын
He’s doing his job being a “defense attorney “. That what people do when they’re on the “defense “ 😁
@saltandpepper986
3 ай бұрын
@@EmilyLynn0529 No. An ample defense can be exercised without being disrespectful and unprofessional. Courtroom decorum is expected and does allow for a fair trial for all defendants.
@eternity7477
3 ай бұрын
He gets in a "I'm about to gotcha" mode and all he wants then is to get all his words out. The hilarious thing is that there are never any gotchas. He watched too much court antics on TV.
@Eyes.WideOpen
3 ай бұрын
He interrupts and speaks over the judge as well, even when the judge is admonishing him for that very thing! 🙄
@cheesehead4670
3 ай бұрын
@@EmilyLynn0529no, that’s not what adequate defense attorneys do. 🙄
Mel’s ex and current husband saved her in some respects.
I heard that during the Johnny Depp trial, where Amber Heard’s lawyers objected to a question that they had asked and the judge corrected them saying “you asked the question!” And the lawyer seemed very embarrassed and everyone laughed 😬
@franceswatts4001
3 ай бұрын
Yes that did happen, and it was the first thought I had when Prior objected to his own witness’s response. So a little different but still ridiculous.
@angelayurich2286
3 ай бұрын
Depp's lawyer was a tiger! So informed & didn't back off an inch! I loved watching that woman! Awesome...
@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468
3 ай бұрын
Ahhh yes; Mr Rottenborn 😂
@nooksandcrannies9871
3 ай бұрын
Another great trial. Remember when Amber kept looking at the jury when answering questions. That backfired on her. Just like it will do for Prior. Johnnys Team was amazing
@raincadeify
3 ай бұрын
@@nooksandcrannies9871 Right? Even after the text from JD to his friend saying he wanted to kill his wife and rape her corpse, lol. That took some fancy footwork to get away from that statement.
It's insane that Ion moved away from his children for this wacko woman that he barely knew (and obviously didn't trust). Melani was so cruel to Brandon (like Lori was to Charles) and thought two of her kids were dark and would be killed to join Alex - Ion's an idiot to have children with her. It's crazy that Ian and Melani can have any unsupervised time with their other kids. I feel sorry for Brandon and Ion's ex-wife knowing their children are around Melani.
@relentlesspursuitofshade1234
3 ай бұрын
Agree with all of this. If it were my kids, I would hire an attorney and go dirt poor to keep my children from this crazy. So dangerous and wacky.
Ian better watch his back. When things go south, Melanie's exes don't seem to fare well. 🤔
@NancyDrew1
3 ай бұрын
Well. Brandon ended up with a few million.
@mimiity9585
3 ай бұрын
Melani can’t be right in the head to believe such nonsense! Imagine…Hod only wants weird Lori and Chad to save the planet and the people with the light?!! Allowing yourself to believe in cult ideals is a lack of basic principles, logic and common sense. There is no way I could believe that spirits or “God talk to one person, or they think their God! That person tewuires a psychiatrist and probably meds. Not different than people believing men can get pregnant and have periods! 🤪
@cheesehead4670
3 ай бұрын
@@NancyDrew1how?
@joannemurdock7899
3 ай бұрын
@@NancyDrew1allegedly $12 million
@raincadeify
3 ай бұрын
@@joannemurdock7899 For what?
Q&A between attorney Lindsey Blake and Ian. I know this truly isn’t funny, but when I heard Ian’s answer I just seriously laughed out loud! I’m not laughing at him, but understanding completely his answer. Lindsey Q: At any point did Melani share some of the beliefs she’d been taught? Ian A: Yes Q: At some point did you start hearing some of those beliefs or teachings from Chad and Lori? A: Yes Q: When Melani was sharing those with you was that prior to your marriage? A: Yes, there was some that was shared prior to my marriage and then the bulk of it was the night that we got married. Q: Initially were you somewhat open to some of the ideas she was sharing? A: Yes Q: How long did you remain open to those ideas? A: TIL THE NIGHT WE GOT MARRIED. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Poor Ian. Can you imagine getting married and then Melani dumps everything on him once she’s legally his wife?!
@Juke582
3 ай бұрын
Yeah they are narcissist users!
@Sunset-chaser777
3 ай бұрын
Ian said he’s staying away from religious beliefs now. Very sad but understandable how many people left the LDS church who’ve been exposed to this case
@kamihayes5147
3 ай бұрын
What a sad wedding night. Most people: hot sex Melani: so lemme tell you about zombies. Ian:………..
@penniewyatt9391
3 ай бұрын
It they are still together? Odd.
@XjtBA
3 ай бұрын
@@Sunset-chaser777 where did you hear that many people have left the LDS church who have been exposed to this case?
Melanie a conspirator
@olgatrilogymartin3143
3 ай бұрын
Definitely
It made me sick to hear Melani talk about getting sealed to her and Ian's children. She broke up her family. She was/is a threat to them. I'd run away to the ends of the world to protect my children from her and Ian.
@peacefulpenelope5054
3 ай бұрын
Chad is so full of sxxt
@peacefulpenelope5054
3 ай бұрын
Nate you muted yourself off and on just letting you know.
@lizkt
3 ай бұрын
That was a very strange comment. The kids would not be sealed to Ian and Melanie. Ian's kids have their mother and Melanie's kids have Brandon. You can't just seal kids to a new spouse and leave out their bio parent.
@valerieludlow5322
3 ай бұрын
You can, but there has to be permission given, and I doubt Brandon or Natalie would allow that.
@madsdee7803
3 ай бұрын
@@valerieludlow5322 I wonder if Natalie had an insurance policy with her kids as beneficiaries too. This is all sick when you think like that and it isn't beyond these people to do that.
I want to hear what Julie Rowe said in her interview. Please publish
Melanie I think you knew..
@bonnienelson7373
3 ай бұрын
I don't know ... I hope not.
@cheesehead4670
3 ай бұрын
She knew everything from day one.
My stomach was turning to hear Chad giving a "patriarchal blessing" how blasphemous. I actually began crying, I think I was just feeling that Heavenly Father probably was feeling like I was, so sad that he will be in Hell for eternity. So sickening to me who has had Real Priesthood blessings and a Patriarchal blessing. I couldn't listen to the whole thing. It absolutely hurt my soul! 😢😢
@sandydavies7008
3 ай бұрын
It was sickening.😢
@Twinkle_Toes88
3 ай бұрын
It was a EULOGY,not a blessing
Im guessing Ian’s agreement to wear a wire was in exchange for Melanie’s immunity?? I personally would have asked for an annulment rather than immunity for her, but nonetheless 🤷🏼♀️
@NancyDrew1
3 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m thinking. He shouldn’t be protecting a criminal. What’s he thinking. He may be next!!!
Maybe it's because im not religious but i am so baffled at how anyone could believe these two. It sounds like utter madness. I just don't understand how these folks were going along with all this. 😅
@jeng5757
3 ай бұрын
They wanted to be special
@Ink_Panther
3 ай бұрын
@@jeng5757right. Then they should have gone to the X factor
@estherlongmore9443
3 ай бұрын
I’m religious and I’m just as baffled as you are. These people are wackadoo!
@dragonmummy1
3 ай бұрын
I think if none of this was true, if it was a film or a novel, we’d be rolling our eyes all the time at how unlikely and unreal it all is. But, as they say, truth is stranger than fiction.
@tmorales1969
3 ай бұрын
They are stupid stupid people.
Whackadoodles. It boggles my brain!
@Tawadeb
3 ай бұрын
Mormons
Nate, you’re the GOAT!
Someone needs to tell Felony Melani that watch doesn't go with her outfit 😅
@karenhall6762
3 ай бұрын
Excellent! Felony Melani best yet, good job!
@texasgina
3 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh I remember that line from the movie Sweet home Alabama
@jennawren1672
3 ай бұрын
@texasgina yep! I have a neice named Melanie as well and I'd always tease her about it.
Thank you for the shoutout to me and my sisters! We love you, Nate! ❤
I cannot believe Melanie P was not arrested in this case! The horrible things she said (and was a part of doing imo) to the father of her children is disgusting. I also cannot believe that Ian and Melanie stayed together! He was recording her behind her back (thank goodness), she was saying all of this horrific stuff about her very recent ex-husband that seemed to be a great guy and father. So Ian met and married Melanie within days…for which he’s thrown into this. He very obviously did not know who he married! He recorded her! And he should have ..but what these evil people did to people that have done MUCH less to them, didn’t give Ian pause?! Or run for the hills? And she wasn’t upset when she found out what her new husband did to her and “mom and dad” 🤮 Ian wanted a wife that had kids, helping him to feel comfortable with that person being a good mother figure. BUT she didn’t even have custody because children were disappearing around her and her “mom and dad”- could Melanie calling Chad “Dad” be anymore creepy? I truly cannot believe they not only stayed together but had more children?!?! THIS is why you don’t marry someone days after meeting them!
Prior often apologizes all self deprecating and folksy when he’s admonished or when he catches himself making a minor error (I’m sorry judge, I’m getting ahead of myself and I speak quickly when that happens… Ms Gibb, your math is better than mine…. Detective , my eyes aren’t as good as they used to be… 🤮) but he didn’t so much as respond respectfully with an acknowledgment when Boyce kept on him today. In fact, he seemed to almost be energized by it and continued the exact behavior he should have stopped! Reminded me of an obstinate teenager slamming their door and turning the music up. So unprofessional.
@EmilyLynn0529
3 ай бұрын
He’s a Defense Attorney. That’s how people act when they’re on the defensive. 🤷🏼♀️
@saltandpepper986
3 ай бұрын
@@EmilyLynn0529 changing your username in the last half hour? Bot or sketchy troll?
@raincadeify
3 ай бұрын
He thinks he's Columbo and the jury is stupid.
Would love to see the interview with Julie Rowe
@sunshinegal4294
3 ай бұрын
Oh I’ve had enough of Julie Rowe! She’s disgusting and a fraud! A joke!
@tmorales1969
3 ай бұрын
Julie Rowe is nervous! Very nervous. Why else would she try to come into the courtroom?!
@lea24457
3 ай бұрын
Julie rowe is just another level of crazy 🥴
@sunshinegal4294
3 ай бұрын
@@lea24457 🎯
@macb8309
3 ай бұрын
I’d like to watch Julie Rowe’s interview like I want a hot poker to the eye. Can’t listen to Sloth’s “blessings”; can’t listen to Crazy Rowe.
Nate, just finished listening to this edition and was hoping you would highlight something I heard on the recordings today in court. On the recording just after Alex's death they were discussing he was now in his next role etc., but in the recording Melanie suggested he would be able to care for or protect two of her children Braxie and the second name escapes me. This statement by her suggested to me she knew about two of her children being dark and potentially deceased. It also gives me pause as it relates to sharing EVERYTHING she knows. Did I miss something or did you not notice that when they were playing the recordings?
@cruzinbosco
3 ай бұрын
Braxton and Brees (aka Braxy and Breezy). And yes, I initially took it that way as well... I was like "Mel, your kids are not dead!" But then I realized she might have meant that Alex was going to be watching over them as "an angel". But yes, she definitely knew that Chad and Lori believed two of her children to be dark, however, it was not the two named here. The two that were "dark" were Brighton and Blake according to text messages. I think that's why she tried to kidnap them twice from Brandon's parent's home and was arrested for it. She was either planning on following the plan for the dark ones, or "save" the light ones from the dark ones. So basically, all she cared about was Alex watching over her "light" children. I really don't understand why Ian married her.
@Rob89139
3 ай бұрын
@@cruzinbosco Thanks for clarifying the names, it sent chills down arms when I heard it. Given their beliefs tho it doesn't seem likely he could watch over them from a different dimension or probation as I believe they called it. I was hopeful she would shed light on the unanswered questions and still believe she's not coming completely clean. Agree with you as it relates to Ian
I would like to know where do they get the idea, that Jesus needs their help, with the 2nd coming!😳🤔🤔. Is this a LDS thing???
@lindastuart3780
3 ай бұрын
This is not an LDS thing! As Christians, we think Christ can handle that on his own without help. Can you imagine Christ needing Lori and Chad's help?
@basicallyno1722
3 ай бұрын
lol no…so many Christians think they need to help Jesus out with the second coming or that they’ll play a pivotal role
When Melanie P. Was on the recording calling Chad daddy I about gagged, after asking Melanie about the trip with Lori and Melanie found out later that alex was supposed to be on that trip also but didn't go because Chad needed his help with something and then Lori got a call that tammy had died, thought the prosecutor could have made a few more questions on all ending up enforcing the point that Alex Chad and Lori were all very secretive around Tammy being killed
@texasgina
3 ай бұрын
Yeah they throw in the evidence with testimony but they don't reiterate it to push it into their heads I know what you mean they've done that a lot and you're just hoping the jury hung onto that testimony
According to her testimony, Melani visited Lori at the Rexburg home the same weekend as Melani Gibb, David Warwick, Lori and Alex, with Chad coming and going. She sad she was there on the 19th and for the weekend, yet she couldn’t remember Meani, David, or JJ being there. I find this amazing and not believable.
@kathrynharrisonrzaa7857
3 ай бұрын
Melani
@raincadeify
3 ай бұрын
In a 1600 sq' house.
I watch your show every day from Vancouver Island, Canada. Cheers!
@Full-of-Cattitude
3 ай бұрын
I'm watching from Toronto! Hello to you. 😀
Craziest day of the trial so far! 😳
Nate the great 💪 I love your summaries. I’m listening from England and the first thing I do when I wake up in the morning (and get out of bed) is put your KZread broadcast on. Thanks 😊
Hello from Berlin, Germany. I followed every minute of Lori's trial and am so pleased that you are covering this.
Prior is being strategic when he refers to Tammy’s exhumation as ‘They Dug her up’. He is attempting to plant the seed that she was cruelly and unnecessarily removed from her grave. He wants the jury to think about how they would feel in the same situation. Especially if you were innocent, which of course is what he wants us to believe that Chad is. It is also evident in the condescending tone he takes.. he’s trying to plant the seed of doubt in the jury. By speaking in a tone of disbelief, he hopes the jury will question the credibility of those testifying.. and that those people are not believable. I know there’s a lot of strong emotions being exhibited in regard to Prior, most of which are probably from the reflection of their distaste for Chad.. so I’ll clarify, I’m not arguing that he’s being successful at this strategy 😆.. but his demeanor has much to do with his strategy and not likely accidental.
@LoriEvans-dp7kg
3 ай бұрын
I agree…But if I or a loved one was brutally murdered, I would want myself or my loved one dug up!! I would want to find out the truth!
@dakalodk
3 ай бұрын
Why does that matter?
@johannawigg6921
3 ай бұрын
He's setting the stage for when he has Tammy's kids on, and they get emotional about not being informed their mum was going to be exhumed
Please release that interview with Julie!!
Cant help thinking that these people - especially the two Melanies and Lori - would have done so much better if they had proper jobs and were productive members of society instead of having so much time to commit to this nonsense. Poor Charles, Brandon and Tammy were the only decent people in this mess. Mel P seemed really infantile - despite being a mother of 4 at the time
Nate.... please release the Julie Rowe interview!!!! Thanks for your top notch reporting!
@jlauren7198
3 ай бұрын
Yes!! Please release the interview!!
@basicallyno1722
3 ай бұрын
She’s a crack pot liar too
Melanie P KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED IMO
She put a dating profile up while still married to Brandon. She’s always on the hunt for a man with the green.
@olgatrilogymartin3143
3 ай бұрын
Gross
Oh, Nate. Quite a day! It’s heating up. Ian is an amazing man. His recordings, even on his wedding night, prove his character. He truly cared for those missing kids.
PLEASE RELEASE THE INTERVIEW. I’m shouting 😂
Amazing reporter!! One of the best around!! Thank you Nate for your brilliant work and updates!!! Much love from Australia🇦🇺🦘💜☺️
Daryl Brooks objected to his own question once. 😂
@cakoll71
3 ай бұрын
😜😜😅😅😅
@franceswatts4001
3 ай бұрын
Maybe that’s why he is keeping so quiet now - hardly a peep out of him during the prelim and pleading this week.
@TeaSpiracy
3 ай бұрын
So did Amber Heards attorney
Melanie said in the phone calls that at least 2 of her kids would be comforted by Alex,,who by that time WAS dead?, and those 2 children were labeled dark ?..those kids were on the next list...evil stuff
@Tawadeb
3 ай бұрын
Watch the video of the cops stopping her snatching them
Melanie seemed really sus based on this interview and her performance in court yesterday. Flat affect, fake quietness and politeness. She wanted her ex dead and I bet her kids would have been in danger too. She wanted her ex to live in fear for his life forever. Her childlike adoration of Lori and Chad is also v disturbing. What a weirdo!
Awe, planting the last of my veggies...missed Insider by 30 minutes. Thank you Nate, your crew, for being the link, between Court and us. We appreciate all you do. Washington State is watching...
The quick marriage is just WEIRD!!! She seems very disconnected from him! IMO, she was in deep with the tragic death of JJ and Tylee! Hope she gets arrested! Poor Ian seems to have been manipulated! Now there are more children. Sad!🥲
? Anyone else thinking Chad told Melaneice she needed to marry someone fast ( like Alex n zulema) and why did they not ask her ‘did you know where the children were? You were not even asking about your kids after you knew they were dark? ( she said she was happy Alex would be up in heaven with her own 2 kids)
@therealz360z7
3 ай бұрын
In that religion if your not married your not getting in the highest level of celestial kingdom.
@basicallyno1722
3 ай бұрын
@thereal no that’s not true
@stacy6994
3 ай бұрын
@@therealz360z7she was still married to Brandon as far as her religion goes. She needed to have a temple divorce then can be married to IAN for that aspect. In Ian's interview they said they did a Vegas thing and knew at some point they would want a temple marriage. So that was not the issue.
@dakalodk
3 ай бұрын
They marry for sex it's nothing deep
??? Did Chad ever have a mental exam??? Seriously way out there!! Hard to believe anyone believe this nonsense
@blackseaknits2576
3 ай бұрын
After hearing the mom the other day, I think he is autistic.
I'm so sorry you missed Everett's play, Nate. I hope it was video taped so you can see his performance and watch it together with your family. Thanks for another great update.
I wonder what Melaniece thought when the children were found in chads yard?
Been ready for this recap all day ! Hello from Arkansas
@cakoll71
3 ай бұрын
Me too! Was wondering what Nate was going to focus on!🧐🧐. I don’t think I ever heard anyone object to their own question! 🫣🫣🫣. Until now!🫤🫤
Can you imagine Prior and Julie Rowe going toe-to-toe with talking over one another? Lmfao
The big take from Melanie’s testimony is that she connected the dots of Chad determining dark people, zombies and that these people were dead. That was huge
Did Melanie say her Alex would be protecting her kids in heaven? Her kids that are still alive but planned on having un alived? That is why she was so hell bent on getting them from a Brandon’s parents house.
I didn't watch Lori's trial but maybe I will now. Maybe I better wait and make sure Chad gets guilty verdict. I was so hurt in my heart when oj got off.
@Full-of-Cattitude
3 ай бұрын
Don't you worry- Chad's going nowhere but to prison, that's for sure.
Julie Matthews from Victoria Australia 🇦🇺. Can hear you loud and very clear. Thank you for your summary of today’s proceedings. Very useful 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Am I the first to comment? Nah, can't be. Good evening Nate, can't wait for the update. Always look forward to this part of my day. Keep up the great journalism 🩷 from California.
Omg!!! Chad and his including of MacDonalds in one of his "prophecies" is just toooo much!!! Im on the floor in hysterics😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 He really needs to be known from now on as Dumbell!!!! I'd like to thank him and his band of schmucks and schmuckettes for giving me the best laugh.... Although the tragedy of those poor children and innocent victims stops my laughter !!!!
I agree she looked way different………maybe she doesn’t want to be recognized is what first came to my mind 😂😂😂😂
Anyone ever tell you that you sound like John Ritter? Love listening to you every night!
Oh please share the Julie Rowe interview. Please. Please. Please.
@gryffinberner
3 ай бұрын
She could be a witness, so not a good idea until the trial is over.
@johannawigg6921
3 ай бұрын
She wont be now she tried ro sneak into court ! @@gryffinberner
Chad Daybell sounds like a big dumbbell
@Full-of-Cattitude
3 ай бұрын
We should all call him Chad Dumbbell from now on. 🤣