Nice

Looks very risky in terms of a headshot. Seemed to be executed very well though

@JustaBug

5 ай бұрын

There's a lot that makes it less risky. So you need to draw out their cut so that you are in control of the timing. Also step diagonally forwards to enter the triangle of safety past their blade. With a bit of practice it becomes a technique you can reliably pull off

@BernasLL

5 ай бұрын

@@JustaBug I believe you. Show us you pulling it off in sparring against an equally committed opponent :)

@JustaBug

5 ай бұрын

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@BernasLL

5 ай бұрын

@@JustaBug Ah, forgot I'd already seen it. Thanks!

What’s stopping your opponent from simply altering the trajectory of their cut to hit you in the head. This is exceptionally easy to do, especially since it’s a time of the hand motion, compared to your time of the hand body and feet.

@JustaBug

5 ай бұрын

You're stepping diagonally in towards them. So this does two things, you are buying into their time with your step and it makes it much harder to track you visually. It also relies on the commitment they throw their strike with. So half the set up is ensuring they have a committed cut. You also first feint for a downwards cut, whether it's by your shoulder or a sword tip flick, if they don't make a committed move into the downwards cut, you should not throw the bangjeokse and instead take the feinted downwards cut line, a zornhau if you will. I suppose you can think of the bangjeokse as an inverse zornhau which ironically works very well as a zorn counter. I've been training with some hema guys for quite some time now and I've been landing this somewhat consistently

@frankheninja1

5 ай бұрын

@@JustaBug thank you for the reply!

@JustaBug

5 ай бұрын

@@frankheninja1 You know what, your question really made me wonder why don't people just change their line and cut me. So I messaged the hema instructor who's club I cross train with to get his opinion. It's about picking the cut you do it on. You can't do this on a less committed opponent, because you're absolutely right, they'll change the line. Taking it on a cut where the opponent is seeking a high bind and giving them some expectation of that with the initial movement and then giving them something else entirely is what makes it work. If they're not committed I would not do this technique. Set up something where it looks like they have a chance to blow through a poor parry with a zorn and then give them a different dish entirely. Hope that helps and thanks for making me think twice and seek some answers!

@frankheninja1

5 ай бұрын

@@JustaBug that makes a lot of sense to me, and when phrased like that I actually see a lot of overlap with something we do in broadsword/smallsword called the fleche. A fully committed attack that works because you’ve caught your opponent in the middle of a committed motion (in this case committed to cutting and stepping forward).

Is this cut necessarily against the body in such a way as to miss/dodge the opponent's sword? I ask because dodging committed downwards cuts in time of the hand is hard (if athletic) or impossible (if more like me), but I've seen a number of different 'upwards + more horizontal cut catches downwards cut and either flows with it into another cut or overpowers it due to better structure' moves in German longsword and Dandao Faxuan interpretations. Put another way: Does this technique require the dodging, or would the position of the blade defend even if the opponent doesn't miss? It looks like the latter might be the case if performed in subtly different ways

@JustaBug

5 ай бұрын

It requires the dodge for a deep target strike. You can alternatively do it lower risk by stepping back with a rising counter cut to the hands. But then there may be a thrust follow up and they can change their path. Stepping in makes it pretty much impossible to counter once they've committed to the cut. It involves stepping in diagonally and takes some practice to get, but it's actually relatively safe once you get the hang of it. Rather than timing the dodge to the time of the hand, bait the opponent to cut. Flick the shoulder forward and move the sword first, so that they think they should cut with a downwards cut to either meet the bind or strike first/zorn and that's when you're in control of the timing

@frankheninja1

5 ай бұрын

This is my exact concern. This technique is a time of the hand body and feet motion, and all your opponent has to do is strike you in time of the hand.

@DarkwarriorJ

3 ай бұрын

@@frankheninja1 Between JustaBug's latest video and my own experience at my local HEMA club where I realized I pulled this exact thing off in my own personal blind interpretation of the failer strike, I can sort of explain it now. 0. Purpose: Here it's framed as a counter-attack. I've had the most success using it as a straight-up attack against those in a high guard, though the broad brush-strokes are the same. 1. Time: Is of the hand, body and feet yes. This is achievable by two means - correct measure (be sufficiently far away that a passing step is necessary to attack), and pushing forward the arms into a cone of defense first, ready to catch the counterattack. 2. Motion: Here's where I violate time of the hand even harder - I 'fake a zornhau' by throwing it blade up arms leading. The trick here is that this reserves my wrist action for turning the apparent zorn into a lower zwerch, and creates good structure for the blade to catch any action coming from the upper right side. As the opponent moves to parry or counterattacks, that's when I turn it into a lower zwerch and use the strong of my blade to catch and defend (or outright dodge, as so often happens) 3. The diagonal step: Is just to get even better structure and for follow-ups. It often leads into outright dodging the opponent's sword, but that's a happy side-effect, not the feature. What's most important is getting into the right range and guarding yourself with the entire blade.

Looks like something out of demon slayer

@JustaBug

5 ай бұрын

Always a fun one to pull off because it looks cool