The unknown gymnast is Natalia Andreeva :)

Coaches or gymnasts' federations used to not have to submit anything. Korbut, Comaneci, and the innovators before them didn't have to. It was obvious they had performed their respective skills first at Worlds or an Olympics. They should have given Mosty the benefit of the doubt. Onodi herself called the element 'the Mostepanova'.

In my honest opinion, I think if you compete a skill, then it should be named after you, no matter what competition it is, the FIG needs to recognise this!

There's now video evidence of Elena Gurova doing the double twisting Yurchenko as early as 1984 at the DTB Cup. I also saw Gurova do the round off full twisting backhandspring to hip circle mount on BB at the 1986 Ahoy Cup and a Kochetkova in 1985. Both Gurova and Priakhina did some very innovative skills back then.

Thats crazy that Vanessa Atler did the Chutovitina during her time. That would have been a 10 start value.

It is so funny regarding the Onodi/Mostepanova skill.... I used to train with Onodi long long long time ago in Bekescsaba and back then she had never said that move is her "own" skill.... everybody including her called it Mostepanova. So I do not really get it why ppl call it sometimes Onodi... I love your Montages, they are all perfect and bring me back some happy - sometimes still painfull though - memories! Greetings from Hungary :)

Unfortunately Priakhina seemed to disappear after the 1987 European Championships. She didn't go to Worlds nor the Olympics the following year. But I disagree with those who say she 'might' have been a legend. She IS a legend. She is remembered each time her name comes up. And a whole new generation learns about her.

Priakhina was crazy...

Watching Chustovitina swing bars like a god when she says she hates them will never cease to blow my mind.

Priakhina should have gone to 1987 Worlds. That skill on beam would have been named after her instead of Zamo.

@rosspalmer4651

7 жыл бұрын

Coco Cat and the silivas would be hers

The name 'Touzhikova' as DLO full-in was at 90's CoPs along with 'Chuso's DLO full-out, but then Touzhikova name was cancelled and Chuso became all DLOs full-in or full-out.

Sorokina also did a triple back off bars, and Bogi also did a double double on floor. ANd Groshkova's double IN pike OUT hasn't been duplicated since as far as I know. Groshkova, Priakhina, and Gurova were difficulty beasts. It was like they were born on another planet.

@bowft7033

6 ай бұрын

alexis brion also did a double in pike out in 1995

the fact that Pryakhina appears hear like 4 times. Wow she was reeeeally ahead of her time

this has been prolly the most intersting video you have put up and you have a lot. this video was awesome

Priakhina was a beast. love her.

....That's ridiculous. Apparently innovation and creativity must wait for bureaucracy.

@hannahwalmer1124

3 жыл бұрын

Right? You also have to pay money for it too, like...c'mon

Nowadays, whoever competes a skill first should get recognition. With smaller rosters, less athletes per event, it's harder for an event specialist to qualify to compete. For the good of the sport, the FIG should recognize the first athlete who creates or successfully competes a skill, not whomever qualifies to worlds/Olympics and does so.

Maloney does her toe-on Shaposhnikova layed out. Wener did her straddled. A completely different shape in the air.

Olga Strazheva did a double front dismount off beam some of the time, back in 1986 (or before perhaps). She was the first to do really difficult forward tumbling runs on floor also, and i remember on TV one of the commentators, either Cathy Rigby or Kathy Johnson, called her a forward tumbling specialist, though she was really so much more in my opinion.

@Solitaire_Guy

2 жыл бұрын

I think a Romanian from the 70s did it first. Cristina Grigoras if I'm not mistaken

I remember hearing somebody back in the 1970's, Muriel Grossfeld perhaps, mentioning on a gymnastics telecast that the Valdez was named after a "Calfornian gymnast" (that's what the broadcater said).

@moncsa80 I think it shows good sportsmanship by Onodi. It's similar to Moceanu who called her '96 beam mount "The Silivas" giving credit to it's originator. Moceanu simply performed a variation but it was still a shoulder stand to turn mount.

If you mean the double twisting Yurchenko vault, I think Elena Shushunova actually did it before either of them, but not in a Worlds (USSR Cup maybe?) I think she was also the first to do 1.5 Yurchenko, which she used in the '87 Worlds to win vault, but I definintely remember Elfi or Tim mention on TV that Shushunova did the first double back in 1985 or '86.

I think the skill that not named after the gymnast because if you want the skill to named after you,you must perform it at Word Championships or Olympic Games.

@JennaLeigh

4 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to get what you're saying, but you're missing several words.....

I love the clip of Shishova - the woman behind her sees the skill, her mouth falls open, and everyone applauds.

@christineharrelson4831

3 жыл бұрын

Funny because Shishova also performed a Yurchenko vault, reportedly before Yurchenko did in the line-up. Would have to fact check that one though, but they DID unveil it at the same time at the 1983 worlds. I know other junior gymnasts were working them too.

No Yang Bo did the front walkover, when she was on two feet she paused for second then executed a full scale. Liukin performed the one-legged pike swinging through to a modified scale. Not the same skills.

I've always wondered, is the double front dismount on beam named for Produnova? Very interesting montage, rather informative. I only knew that Onodi, Stroescu and Tousek have been falsely attributed with a skill.

I don't get it about Mostepanova, she successfully performed her skill at the 1983 Worlds, why wasn't it named after her?

@MissLilRedRooster

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think she submitted it, so maybe that's why.

awesome! Most excellent work as always! most excellent coach! Bless Thee!

how did you possibly find so much footage

Are you sure Comaneci did that before Hindorff? They were competing at the same time (1977-80), so I'm not sure Nadia did it first. The GDR were the bars specialists of that era.

Not to mention that she preformed it by accident. The 2 1/2 was accredited to Humphrey even though she really did a triple, and Mitchell went a little to far past during the beam final in 2010 so they gave it to her instead. Don't really get how that works out, but that's the F.I.G. for you.

This was freaking awesome!!! Great job!!!

Mukhina went from the high bar to the low bar. The other girl dismounted straight from the high bar. I mean, it's pretty clear those are different moves.

The Do Santos 1 could have also gone to Beth Tweddle. she preformed it at the 2001 Common Welth Games. But Neither of the participated in the 2002 worlds and Beth didnt do floor at the 2003 worlds while Diane did and got the skill.

No, the Yurchenko Loop is a back dive widthwise on the beam to a hip circle. Julianne never dove backwards like that. She did the hip circle from a planche.

I did hear before that the skill had been done by others in training etc. so Mostepanova & coaches did not exactly consider it a new skill? Not sure how true that is. Regardless, if it hadn't been submitted the FIG's hands were probably tied on that one. Not that they haven't royally messed it up before- I hear they finally fixed the Cojocar/Stroescu misnaming- but this one isn't really their fault.

Wow, amazing montage...You did a wonderful job!

Some of these people may have done the skills earlier but were they competed at a World Championships or an Olympics...That is only way to be recognized by the FIG

actually Aleftina priakhina did a double twisting Yurchenko in 1986 at the Chunichi cup ;)

Shevchenko and Shushunova both did the Baitova at the 1985 Moscow News.

@gk891

6 жыл бұрын

Gurova also did the Baitova vault at the 1984 DTB Cup.

very interesting! thank you for making this up for us gymnastics fans!

YUM! the Flair on beam- deliciosa! theres impossibly difficult skills here! AWESOME! GRACIASS!

I love this video..I find it amazing..great job.

Very interesting, thanks for sharing

What about Comaneci's free hip reverse hecht which she did, I believe, before Hindorff. Also I think there was an American gymnast doing the 'Chen' (back tuck swingdown on BB) around 1979.

Thanks for another great video. I think that the process of naming skills should be completely revamped with less focus on just the Olympics/Worlds.

hmm no, you are right. I forgot that one. Dos Santos is the only person who did the double arabian layout (in competition). .... I did saw a video where a girl did double layout with a half twist in the second flip.

In the last Code Of Points, the Front 2.5 twists is named after Sabina Cojocar (ROM).....You can check it.

Look at Yang Bo's 1989 World's beam EF routine...I'm pretty sure she does a front walkover into immediate arabesque scale. Nastia was almost 20 years behind, but got the skill (or didn't) in her name in the C.O.P. What puzzles me the most though is the new code makes no mention of the names of the Chinese gymnasts who introduced the various UB Diamidov-type pirouetting skills, nor do they name the forward Stalder shoot for Endo. Then again I haven't checked the back of the code either.

Some one please tell me how the the stroescu was mistakenly attributed to her

@mathemusicianify

7 жыл бұрын

The FIG just screwed that one up. I have no idea how they could have gotten that wrong through any legitimate means other than just messing up.

Also if you didn't know this, the Semenova was also preformed by Rachel Updyke in 2006 at the JO Visa Championships and by Vanessa Atler at the 2000 Olympic Trials.

Another one I came across is the Yurchenko Loop on balance beam. Wu Jiani of China performed it in her 1981 World bronze medal winning routine, which is 2 years before it was named after Yurchenko in 1983.

i feel sorry for Priakhina, she is one of my favorite

Thanks for the response! I've always wondered who the Valdez was named for. I just assumed it was a gymnast from a Spanish speaking country not counting the U.S. citizens who speak the language.

I have never seen video of Julianne ever performing the Yurchenko Loop. Her signature move was doing a planche handstand into a back hip circle, which is somewhat similar, but the Yurchenko requires doing a sideways back dive into the hip circle.

Szabo was a beast on beam.

I see thank you for clearing that up I've always thought of Produnova for doing the first double front dismount. I'm also wondering about Omelianchik I've viewed videos of her and I cannot seem to find videos of her performing her 3/4 dive to handstand. Also in the Code Dina Kotchetkova is credited with "Jump from side position with 1/2 twist (180°) to side HSTD" and Anastasia Kolesnikova is credited with "Jump from side position with 12 twist (180°) to side handstand." What is the difference?

and this is why I'm glad the FEI dosn't bother naming Equestrian Vaulting skills :P

love the bhs back tuck bars mount

@ShawnVikaKomova2012 It is sometimes known as Randi because it is called that in trampolining, where it was done first

I don't understand. Is it only named after you if you perform it at one of the international competitions or just luck? Great montage again.

man i love watching this video. so interesting to

Thanks! Big fan!

Canqueteau actually got the move named but stupid FIG removed the move fromed the COP when it was changed widely. As Li Ya want to perform the move in a competetion, she has to submit it. Then it is named after her. The Yurchenko loop on beam should be named after Wu Jiani as Wu performed it earlier in the World Cup, if I am not wrong, in 1980 or 1981.

you can only get the skill named after you if you do it successfully in the world champs or olympics. for example, the skill that olga karavaeva does is clearly in neither. chusovitina did it first in worlds or olympics, so it's named after her

@gymfan75 On page 179 of the Code, which is available on the FIG website, you will see that Kotchetkova is credited with both the "Flic-flac with 1/1 twist (360°) before hand support" and "Jump from side position with 1/2 twist (180°) to side HSTD." Also on page 180, you will see that Anastasia Kolesnikova is also credited with "Jump from side position with 1/2 twist (180°) to side handstand."

According to an old article in IG1 per Bart Conner the late Ellen Berger made sure the skill was named for Hindorff. But Nadia herself said she wasn't sure who had performed it first at Worlds or the Olympics. Nadia certainly never competed it at Worlds. She only competed in compulsories and optional team finals balance beam in 1979 due to her hand infection. If the American didn't perform the 'Chen' at Worlds then it wasn't going to get named for her.

Chusovitina did hers with the full twist on the second layout though, at least in the 1991 Worlds event finals.

Guess that explains why Nastia didn't get that skill on beam named after her at the Olympics.

Pryakhinas skills were fabulous. Disappointing she couldn’t make in the a world championship

they've been naming skills since atleast when Olga Korbut first went to the olympics and performed her Korbut flip on the balance beam, that was in 1972 and most of these gymnasts are from the 80's

So cool and a fantastic piece of music, what's its name?

So intresting!!!

It is Tchaikovsky Remix by Edvin Marton (and Tchaikovsky obviously)

Cool video!

It isn't named for Produnova (or anyone else) the earliest example I have found of the double front dismount is Cristina Grigoras at the 1980 World Cup. A Belarussian girl was the first I have seen do it at worlds/olympics (1994 team worlds).

Thanks for the vid! ;)

Ah, poor Priankhina. I believe she would have been a lot more consistent and competitive (and successful) if her coach (who was also Mukhina's coach) hadn't concentrated on her performing skills that might have been a bit too hard for her.

Interesting... Also when did the FIG first start naming skills after gymnasts...becuase I was wondering if maybe the reason is is because maybe they didn't name after people when they did it? But that is very interesting!

Tarasevich done it in 1994. You can see it on KZread, at the Hilton competition!

It could have been that the moves were not first performed at international events but were later on by other gymnasts

what about diane dos santos: double piked arabian? Wasn't there someone else who did it before her?

well a lot of them were not preformed at a World Champ or Olympic games but the rules change so much so things can easily get messed up.

@13shifter No, it has to be performed successfully at a World championships or Olympic Games, and be given a value of C or higher to be named after you

I think that the names chosen for the figures depends of the most recently done according the code of points

After Brandy Johnson, people were performing it before Shawn was born.

As far as I know, the Arabian walkover is officially called the Onodi.

@TinaLivesForPurple

8 жыл бұрын

It is! But I think the point of this video is that someone used this skill before which means it should have been named after someone else

@admetric

8 жыл бұрын

+Martina Hetzer Eva ovari of Hungary tried the gainer 'Onodi' at 1983 but fell.

@TinaLivesForPurple

8 жыл бұрын

Love Joy okay thanks for the information?

Wow. I never realized how many such skills there are.

hehe1 saw senorita Mostepanova! thank you! WUNDERBAR, ALLES!

@missmouse35 They were naming skills well before then-like the Czaslavska bar skill named for 1964-1968 Olympic Champion Vera Czaslavska. And the Valdez on beam named for a Mexican? gymnast who first performed it.

what abiout the Fbaricnhnova on bars? it was first competed in 91 worlds by FERRAZZI, but was named 2 years later

The sideways flic-flac on beam is now called a "Tousek"

@sktzn6829

6 жыл бұрын

Addicted2Tumbling it was always named a Tousek, but it should've been given to another gymnast

Lysenko did the double front 1/2 out dismount in the 1991 World Championships, and Milosivici did it in 1993, though not at Worlds I don't think.

@MostepanovaFan Oh okay. I heard the Randi and Rudi are called the Randolf and Rudolf? Are those the true originators?

Great Video!

@vettegaddia6234

8 жыл бұрын

kikcta Agreed...this is one of the best videos on Ytube. One point, what about the sideway Yang Bo that Teza did at the 1987 Worlds?

@kras118

8 жыл бұрын

+Vette gaddia That skill was named after Teza at the 1997 Worlds. Did someone perform it before her?

@vettegaddia6234

8 жыл бұрын

kras118 Teza has three skills named after her. BB: back handspring from side stand with full twist to back hip circle. Again on BB, the sideways Yang Bo(very risky because you have to take your eyes and arch back when you're doing a split sideways on BB). The above two skills were rated E's. I'm not sure what they are now. I don't remember seeing anyone else performs these skill. Then on UB, another skill named after the fantastic Teza was a Circle swing to straight salto backwards between bars.

@kras118

8 жыл бұрын

Yes, those are all Teza's. As this video is about skills that could have been named after another gymnast, Teza's skills are not included. For instance, the Onodi was actually performed by Mostepanova first. But Teza's skills are totally hers!

@isa1285 ITA! I read somewhere a few years back that the Soviets did not submit the skill at the time-therefore it was not named for Mosty. I call bullsh!t! Mosty performed it years before Onodi-and at WORLDS! :)

@tumbler5962 wu jiani said that back then in the 80s the chinese coaches werent sending naming new skills so they didnt send in the thing for it to be named after her

@pronczak I'm off to search for Luisa Parente's '88 bar routine! This I've got to see!

In order for a skill to be named after you, the skill has to be completed at World Championships of the Olympics. So if anyone has done the skill, not at Worlds or Olympics, then it will not be named after them.

@yellowpurple600

3 жыл бұрын

Mostepanova's was done at the world championships in 1983 though?

@josephmclaren5525

3 жыл бұрын

@@yellowpurple600 Yes, so I thing the Federation should change the skill to Mostepanova's collection of moves instead of Onodi's.

WHAT FLOOR MUSIC IS AT THE BEGINNING?????