Maroney could not do a Produnova for two main reasons: a) a Produnova is a handspring entry. Handspring entries require IMMENSE upper body power. (this is why you see more difficult handspring vaults in MAG) McKayla doesn't have that power. b) McKayla is a twister. Somersaulting requires different skills than twisting. Watch McKayla's floor routine, most of her passes are twists.

The amanar has (currently in this code of points) an 0.7 advantage on a DTY. That's huge, and that's why it's coveted. It's also much more achievable than a Produnova, which requires a combination of power and height that is beyond the reach of almost every gymnast- it's an incredibly dangerous vault if done wrong.

Great job! Vault is always the apparatus which I dont like watching so much, because it's over so fast^^ and they do more or less the same there but your video proved me wrong! Love it!^^

2:15-2:19 MO HUILAN - absolutely beautiful!!!!! Was sooo routing for her to win AA gold at the Olys

Yurchenko the best and one of the most original and famous vault.

@missmoxie9188

4 жыл бұрын

Marbella Covarrubias it really brought a whole new level to the vault

@dylanthepickle6428

3 жыл бұрын

I love the vault. I did gymnastics when I was young. I wish I would have stuck with it. It’s hard, I went to gym every single day after school for like 4 hours and on the weekends. I was at Shannon Miller’s gym when she was there but for some reason the beam terrified me. They would literally yell at you to just do (whatever it was you were learning) even when I was scared to death. 😩

@fortifarse

3 жыл бұрын

Super...I'm going for a buttahara!

1:28 was that Elena Mukhina ??

@BananasForSale

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

I LOVE THE KHORKINA SKILL

Until watching this, I had no idea the DTY had been named after someone! LOL

I like how you have that when the name is the vault preforming on the old vaulting table and the new vaulting table that was cool good work on the video

2:00 That run doesn't look very convincing...

McKayla is much more of a twister I think. She twists fast and clean, while her salto's aren't as nice..

The vault at 1:05 is like something from a movie!

@abigailpadilla5373

8 жыл бұрын

It is. It's in a movie called stick it

Please make an update of this video with the same music. It’s so watchable!

What a great video collection - thanks...

Some of these you never see anymore. I’d also forgotten that the Tsuk double was named after Zamo.

Hey! and Lopez vault?? Where is it? :(

@victorvladimir6875

6 жыл бұрын

Ludivina Cervantes. Yo tambien esperaba ver wl salto López

@vespertined "Half on" means half twist between the springboard and vault table. So Yurchenko half on requires a front flip off. A Tsukahara is like a handspring half on. Full on means a full twist.

Since this is taken from the 2009 COP Im guessing the original Khorkina vault is no longer in there and Khorkina II is reclassified? Cause the vault shown for Khorkina used to be called Khorkina II. I cant remember exactly but is it to do with an immediate twist from the horse being banned? Im surprised more girls aren't using it as a second vault though, its a high value vault thats not impossible.

Correct me if I'm wrong, the handspring and the yurchenko half-ons are front vaults. On the other hand, the tsukahara and the yurchenkos are back vaults. Ex. Khorkina's signature vault which is a 1.5 twists, a yurchenko half on entry, and ends up facing the vault. Which means with a full twist she would be facing away making yurchenko half-ons and by extension her vault a kind of front vault.

Loved the montage! Just out of curiosity, is Trudi McIntosh's vault not listed in the COP anymore? Thanks :)

could you please upload the video of irina evdokimova doing her vault also who is at 2:57 performing the roundoff half on front tuck ?

I think the twisting (or lack thereof) is a problem, but I've heard Maroney has the greatest block around, so she might be able to get the height.

a yurchenko is a roundoff onto the springboard and a backhandspring onto the vaulting table and a tsukhara is were their feet jump straight onto the springboard and they a halfturn onto the vautling board, kindof like doing a roundoff off the vault table

Thank you for this guide! I'm still not sure why the Amanar is so coveted. I personally enjoyed the Produnova the most of all these and went back to watch it again.

what does the numbers 3.8 etc mean?

No, it was just really really popular in the '01-04 code for vaulters who weren't that strong and were able to to do it better with a new vault table. It kind of went out of vogue by the time the Olympics rolled around.

amigo te falto el lopez de la gimnasta mexicano redondilla al caballo con mediogiro mortal estendido con medio giro y otro igual pero con giro completo

what about the Lopez by denisse lopez vt ef sidney 2000

Does anyone know why the Korbut entry is no longer performed?

technically, Yang Yun performed and submitted a "Polozkova" or a layout cuervo

i belive that the yourchenko half on front layout with half turn is called "lópez"

Yes because it requires more power and was even quite inconsistent from the men on the old long-horse when Produnova was the first woman to perform it (it was called a Roche then). Today for the men it is a 6.6. You could say the same thing about the difference between an Amanar and a DTY of 6.5 and 5.8 which is 0.7 respectively, but for the much more powerful men it is 6.6 and 6.2 (Yurchenkos and twisting vaults are more technical but every half twist in any vault is worth 0.4).

Did Vanessa Atler do the laid out double front during her career?

holy crap, ive never seen a luconi. Is it banned??

A double twisting layout Yurchenko was named after Baitova? A tucked double twist is a Dungelova but I've never seen it.

1:03 does anyone know what she scored on that?

Yelena Produnova was described as having muscles in her hair

I have never seen the Dungelova either. DTY was only named after Baitova in the 2009 code of points which is a bit weird because she wasn't the only person to perform it at the 1987 worlds where it is first done

@Marketoromagnolo yes but the korean girl failed to perform it and stand up instead she landed on her bum and it can only be named after you if you properly perform it thats why its named after produnova she performed it at the 1999 worlds and the 1999 universaide

I'm not sure she could do it. Maroney's an amazing vaulter but she doesn't have the power to do the Produnova, especially since it's a handspring vault and not a yurchenko. The Produnova is just beyond the reaches of many gymnasts because it requires a very hard to reach combination of power and height. Plus, it's very very dangerous vault if done wrong :(

It isn't listed in the names section in the 2009 code

1. When did Nellie Kim do a layout Tsuk full? 🤔 2. Is that Mukhina doing a Tsuk tuck full after Kim in this video? 3. Is that Luconi doing her vault at 2:37? It's refreshing to see she did it much better than all the cheated imitations there were in the early oughts 😪.

the Evdokimova seems so hard for to be valued only a 5.0. specially with todays table.

i would love to see that produnova in an olympic or world compettion.

it would seem that back in the day, not sticking a landing was barely even an option.. whereas lately i've seen sooo few sticked landings... is it because the skills are harder? or because they just dont value a sticked landing as much as they used to??

What about the Lopez?

The Double Twisting Tsuk is named after Zamolodchikova? I didn't know she was the first.

The gymnast either turns halfway on to the vault or makes a full turn on to it before going into the air.

Poor Baitova, but she wasn't the first. Elena Gurova was. Aleftina Priakhina also performed it before Baitova. Amanar was definitely the first to do hers.

Does the half-on entry make a vault so much more difficult? Because I don't understand why a Cheng, with 1.5 twists, has a HIGHER DD than an Amanar with 2.5 twists...

@kais4268

7 жыл бұрын

it does. well, basically it's hard to get the same block off of the vault going forwards than backwards, or when you do a half turn. your arms have to be straight to get the big block. if you look at how mckayla maroney does her amanar, her arms are completely straight and near her ears, which is the reason she gets immense height. but when she does her second vault (like a cheng but only with 1 twist), her arms are slanted. then look at how simone biles does her amanar and cheng. her arms are completely straight on both. it's no coincidence that she does them both the best (imo). so while you're doing less twists, it's harder to fit the twists in with less air time. there's other components but it's very intricate and it rightfully deserves a higher difficulty (again, imo).

@mathemusicianify

7 жыл бұрын

The half-on entry does increase the difficulty as it makes it difficult to get a good block off the table when you are turning onto it instead of just pushing off straight; also you have to turn the right amount to make sure your hands are squared properly, which can be very difficult (cf. Mykayla Skinner's Cheng where half the time her second hand does not even fully make it onto the table). Another contributing factor to the difficulty increase is that a normal Yurchenko vault like the Amanar (without half-on entry) is a backwards salto with twists, while a Yurchenko half-on vault (like the Cheng) is a forwards salto. Forwards saltos are fairly uniformly considered harder than backwards saltos on every apparatus.

@lorenmontespino7264

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for explaining the reason for the increase in degree of difficulty. I don't know why, but I hadn't actually realized the half turn changed it to a forward salto (duh!). I appreciate your taking the time to write a thorough and understandable explanation. Have a good New Year!

The Korean gymnast didn't complete it, she crashed it. Therefore it could not be named after her. Produnova stood it upright, that's why she has named after her. Elena Gurova performed the DTY in 1984 and 1985.

Hopefully we will be adding a Maroney too this list soon! No doubt that she could do a TTY

oana bans vault at 3:24 is not a khorkina 2, its a tucked luconi with a full twist

@92glou No other gymnasts has done it yet. I wish to see it at an Olympic or World competition soon. I think this is the highest vault? Somebody needs to be training this by the next quad! LOL.

Perhaps you should have been included on the begining of that video what a Tsukahara is, given the fact that a lot of exercises are based on it... The first Tsukahara vault was performed by (and named after) Mitsuo Tsukahara in 1972...

I saw this in passing and they all look very much the same to me ... which must mean there is quite a bit of detail to it that I overlook, and as a casual spectator - I'm completely lost. I did enjoy the video, however!

Oana Ban never competed the Khorkina...at 3:25 if you freeze it, you can see her going for a full on, full off.... was wondering if you noticed :)

When did Chusovitina first perform the layout rudi to get the vault named after her?

@midnightdreamr

3 жыл бұрын

As early as 1990 I think

There is a different scoring system now. It takes the difficulty of the vault into question AND the execution. Steps on landing are still deducted, but if you have better form in the air or a more difficult vault then it doesn't matter as much.

There's been a few women attempting the Produnova lately....

@MaebySurelyBarely that would be cool if someone has that vault is tough

I don't know about a Prudonova, but maybe a Cheng. I think she should try for a triple though and have her own vault.

Wow, the Khorkina is a 5.9? More than a DTY?

veryyy good !

i wanna see a yurchenko straight triple-twist SOOO badly

Yamilet Peña does the produnova for those asking

what does DTY mean soz ? and soz i dnt really understand, was the skill RUDI someones last name to be called after them? i dnt think i have ever seen that skill b4 thats y i thought i would watch it on youtube lol

@panagiotis1192

6 жыл бұрын

bekles86 it means double twisting yurncheko

You mean the Nabieva vault? Both performed it at the same competition, therefore it is not named after either.

It is the value of difficulty. Scoring is based on execution and difficulty.

you missed the Phelps!

Podkopayeva is the best !

@airad2 I know! She was a great gymnast under the wrong code. Nowadays she'd be blowing many gymnasts out of the water! I loved Produnova's powerful gymnastics.

That's right, it has the highest start value in women's gymnastics.

Great

Who is the second gymnast doing the Korbut? It's beautiful

@karapalin

Жыл бұрын

Hayley Price (GB)

And the Tsukahara?

I didn't know the DTY was named after Baitova!

Thanks.

Zamolodchikova is a 6.1 not a 6.0

Never stop dreaming-dreams do come true! :)

So Produnova has the highest difficulty vault? I didn't know that. I wish to see it again but it'll probably never be attempted by another female gymnast :(

I heard that the Phelps wasn't in the COP anymore

Google Kohei Uchimura unique combinations, or look up Men's gymnastics 7.0 - 7.4 vaults. I don't know of any women that have done it though, only Kohei.

No TTY?

@ethanhess9544

5 жыл бұрын

Nobody has competed it in a Worlds, Olympics, or Youth Olympics successfully yet.

Would someone plz bring the Produnova to olympic competition

Why is Produnova considered to be so difficult?

@mustyfan1584

7 жыл бұрын

Because it requires incredible power and block to pull off. Just watch the Rio vault final and see how the world's best vaulters are barely able to do it. Typically only men can do it because they're stronger and have a higher vaulting horse.

@gojewla

7 жыл бұрын

Musty Fan I see.

@josesosa8306

6 жыл бұрын

gojewla Because no one can do like PRODUNOVA Many training to doing but no ONE.

Casi todos creados por Sovieticas, Rusas, Rumanas y Chinas... ahi se ve la creatividad y calidad... y USA? jajaja no sirven la verdad, no me gusta la gimnasia de USA pero siempre las favorecen...

@12markito

9 жыл бұрын

No sirven pero son número uno en el mundo de gimnasia por 4 años seguidos? Okay sigue odiando un país que produce buenas gimnastas nada mas porque piensas que las favorecen: aun que eso no es verdad.

@SeaShanty88

8 жыл бұрын

Sergio Flores de hecho si suelen ser favorecidas solo hay que ver el AA de tokio 2011 donde la única chica que no fallo ningún aparato y con gran dificultad no gano...ademas de ser las impulsoras de la gimnasia fisicoculturista falta del elemento "artístico" y lo peor es que los demás países las están empezando a imitar.

@SeaShanty88

8 жыл бұрын

Dora A San Cabral A mi tampoco, pero bueno al parecer la gimnasia artística femenina se esta pareciendo mas a la masculina o como robots que intentan hacer movimientos de baile...todo gracias a las americanas. con suerte las rusas, rumanas y chinas intentan tener ese factor de artístico y dificultad como lo solían tener las soviéticas.

@marbellacovarrubias6206

6 жыл бұрын

Son las mejores por que tienen a los mejores entrenadores Rumanos, soviéticos, chinos etc. Ejemplo Martha y Bela Karolyi (rumanos) entrenadores de Nadia Comaneci, antes que ellos inmigraran en 1981, Estados Unidos no había conseguido una sola medalla olímpica en gimnasia femenina, su primer estrella Mary Lou Retton campeona olímpica en Los Ángeles 84 (si los soviéticos no hubieran boicoteado esos juegos Olímpicos la historia sería diferente) otro ejemplo Valeri Liukin ex gimnasta y entrenador (soviético) y su hija Nastia (nacida en la URSS) la cual fue campeona olimpica de Beijing 2008 representando a Estados Unidos, otro ejemplo Liang Chow (Chino) entrenador de Shawn Johnson la cual obtuvo 1 oro y dos platas en Beijing 2008 y Gabby Douglas campeona olímpica en Londres 2012... entre otros tantos ejemplos la lista sería interminable.

@raulvega4016

6 жыл бұрын

Todavía más insoportables son los fans estadounidenses, se creen muy sabelotodos, critican mucho a las gimnastas no estadounidenses, y muy escandaloso y poco respetuosos. Solo basta recordar el ejemplo de Atlanta 96, cuando la multitud gritaba tanto al vitorear a las atletas estadounidenses, que a las rusas y rumanas no las dejaban escuchar su música para las rutinas de piso, una verdadera falta de respeto al trabajo de las otras atletas y una demostración de su enorme ego.

it's 6.0

Has any woman besides Produnova herself ever landed that vault w/out falling?

@gabriellawilloughby2451

7 жыл бұрын

There are only a number of gymnasts (maybe 4 or 5?) that have ever SUCCESSFULLY landed the Produnova feet first without a catastrophic fall. However, nobody is even close to being as upright as she was when they land.

There's not much evidence that she can do handspring vaults to a high standard.

Lol no, just not high enough in difficulty.

actually CHCUNOVA competed both 1,5 Y and 2y in 85 worlds and double front is not named avfter Produnova, because it wass first performed by a korean gymnast in 80 olympics

I think that Maroney can do Prudonova. With that height and power.. wow.

The biles??

@riabright2815

5 жыл бұрын

There was life BEFORE Biles you know! This video was made 9 years ago.

@annapavfan4680

5 жыл бұрын

@@riabright2815 😂👏😂

OMG if the produnova has such a high difficulty, why are ten year old girls at my gym attempting it

@carolineblueskies

8 жыл бұрын

+Vanilla Cupcake doubt they're doing prudunovas...probably just a similar looking vault with one flip. most of the best vaulters in the world right now don't even attempt that vault.

@kakumei77

8 жыл бұрын

This generation could be attempting it like the Amanar is being considered the difficult norm now just like the double yurchenko was the norm in 2000 and 2004. I think more girls will attempt the Produnova in Rio and Tokyo. Hopefully with a half twist, which will be eventually named in the future.

Pronova vault triple tuck