As a woman, I really thank you for your honesty and good sense!🙌 Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Your honesty is noble. Your logic is sound. Your bravery is an example. Your sanity is proven. You are not a misogynist.

Thank you so much for discussing this. I only wish I could discuss this topic without feeling like I will be canceled or called a TERF or a bigot or get banned or ostracized. Right now, there is quite a lot of authoritarian groupthink going on in the far left (I am a traditional, moderate, democrat btw) and if you don't conform absolutely to trans ideology, you are evil. We need to have a real discussion on these topics. Women should not be attacked or silenced on issues that affect them.

@pamelaroyce5285

Жыл бұрын

Many of us moderate liberal Democrats are beginning to feel “politically unhoused.” Just wanted to let you know you are not alone. I keep wondering how we can speak up on this issue effectively without joining the extremists who are anti-.

@dambar7486

Жыл бұрын

As a member of a progressive party in the UK I find it striking that while in the past there have been far left extremists who had little influence in this case what is different in that we have a form of extremism that many (but not all) moderates embrace. I suspect they think it a side issue and so that can use it to show they are really radicals because no one cares. We, as people not on the right, need to tell them that we do care and it is not the easy win they think it is.

@reapthewhirlwind4166

9 ай бұрын

​@@dambar7486yes even here in the US so many conservative news outlets are trying to backpedal on this and now say they are against medical transition for the young.

@nellymoo635

4 ай бұрын

​@reapthewhirlwind4166 Back pedal? Are you for real? Conservatives and moderates are constantly called bigots for speaking about biological realities. Let's point to Jordan Peterson(yes, Canadian). Conservative news? 😂😂😂Your comment is uninformed.

Fortunately, the hormone replacement therapy, the sex reassignment surgery and the long term oestrogen treatment has not displaced the thinking individual - I would fight to have Corinna on my team anytime.

People like him should indeed not be discriminated. He should be treated in law exactly as any other man. The cosmetic genital surgery he underwent should not change his legal status, no surgery should.

Very well said! Gender expression no longer means cultural stereotypes. The differences in roles between men and women . For example the cultural expectation of women and girls in the Far East as compared to an egalitarian country such as Sweden. Gender identity now also means if you stray from the “norm” , even slightly, you are born into the wrong body! Gender identity reinforces old stereotypes that were applied in the West in the 1950’s and should have been dumped decades ago. Just because a boy likes to play with dolls or a girl with toy cars simply means just that. Their preference does not mean they are any less of a biological girl or boy, and should be embraced by society, rather than being pushed down a medical route. Gender identity reinforces old stereotypes . In some countries where homosexuality is punished by death or imprisonment these people HAVE to change sex to survive. So let’s do as Corrine suggests and encourage children who sometimes “ feel different” there is space for them as they are in the body they were born into.

17:22 "this is not about trans rights, it is about women's rights". 17:55 "de-program themselves from the thought-terminating cliches like trans-women are women and trans-men are men" --- THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY, WISDOM, AND COURAGE.

Thank you Corinna, you seem like a really thoughtful & considerate person. I appreciate all the points you made. Women’s rights are not “anti-trans.” In my opinion, the public in general isn’t anti trans at all. I think our country has become very accepting & tolerant of differences & has overall a “live & let live” philosophy. (I’m speaking of day to day realities; people not working in politics.) But with the encroachment on women’s rights, parents’ rights, other’s civil rights & apparent harm to thousands of young children… this has led to a pushback. I do feel so much compassion for kids who have been transitioned & puberty suppressed by their parents since early childhood. They are in a different category in my opinion, and I worry about their well being in the future.

@lancewalker2595

10 ай бұрын

The “trans” option probably seems like a fairly attractive alternative to a kid who has the misfortune of being a cis white male… who are, of course, complicit in a system of rape culture, misogyny, and white supremacy.

What an A grade human. This is such a reasonable, intelligent presentation of the situation.

Men need to widen the band width of what it is to be a man. Instead of destroying women's sports, and other rights.

@matthewatwood8641

Жыл бұрын

No, a man is a human male. Men need to be kept out of women's sports. It is that simple.

@isoldam

Жыл бұрын

Pretending to be a woman is a delusion, not a way to 'be a man'.

@lancewalker2595

10 ай бұрын

Feminists need to recognize that their presupposed sense of superior understanding of men and boys is totally erroneous.

@lancewalker2595

10 ай бұрын

The “trans” option probably seems like a fairly attractive alternative to a kid who has the misfortune of being a cis white male… who are, of course, complicit in a system of rape culture, misogyny, and white supremacy.

@sarahmurphy-nf4yl

10 ай бұрын

EXACTLY 👍 💯

Thank you Corinna!!!! love to have you as part of the sisterhood. Unfortunately, as bio women our voices will not be heard.

This is the most eloquent discussion on this issue that I have heard. Thank you for speaking.

@anneruppert1068

10 ай бұрын

It is only because people are not listening to the women who are talking about these issues.

What a breath of fresh air! Corinna's sensitive and balanced perspective brings much sanity to the issues girls and women face.

Corinna Cohn, you have good reasoning skills. I hope you can find fulfillment and happiness in your life.

Thank you so much Corinna! I feel immense relief, to the point of tears, to hear your sane , sound, reasoned and fair responses to these questions. This is true respect for others and true common sense. I pray that people, organizations and politicians will heed your advice so that we can find solid solutions to this very nuanced situation.

I have been donating to the ACLU for years, but I will never donate to it again. Thank you for opening my eyes to what's going on there.

Thank you for speaking up; well-considered and thoughtful speech.

Thank you, Corinna! 💙❤️Appreciate you standing up! I am committed to kindness to all gender non-conforming people because gender in itself doesn’t exist… it’s the foundation of sexism… the words man and women has to remain referring to sex NOT sexist stereotypes! It’s so plainly regressive, not progressive! Viva la difference between the sexes AND within the sexes!!!! We should all be “gender non conforming” by just being who we are and creating a society that welcomes authenticity! And alongside this, still sex protected spaces and competition!

@DiodeMom

10 ай бұрын

Very well said; thank you!

Bravo!! Thank you for being logical!

WELL SAID ON ALL 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 Breath of FRESH AIR. ALL GOVERNMENTS NEED to LISTEN to Corianna speak.

what lia thomas has become in women sport is such a shameful for him beating biological women

I believe very strongly there should be a third space. At least for restrooms. The third restroom is needed for families if one adult is out with their children of the opposite sex. Also for the disabled if they need someone to help them. I think also that third spaces could be very useful for changing rooms, locker rooms, and showers. Otherwise, people that shouldn't really be using the men's or the women's should be making arrangements with an employee of the establishment to use the space alone. So it would be up to businesses and how many customers they are getting with this need to decide which is more convenient. The third space. Or make arrangements as needed, and also let that service be known to customers.

@janelliot5643

Жыл бұрын

Your intent is so well-meaning, but you're sadly uninformed about this issue.The men with transvestic fetishism want to go into the women's room. They do not want a separate space. It's not privacy they seek, it's the opposite; women pretending they think these men are women turns them on: they're demanding that we be participants in their fetish

@bepitan

Жыл бұрын

you have just described a disabled toilet with nappy changing facilities...really anybody can use it.

@matthewatwood8641

Жыл бұрын

No, we need to stop accommodating this. Men in the men's room, women in the women's room. Men in men's sports, women in women's sports. Someone who wants to compete athletically should not have themselves hormonal or surgically mutilated.

@bepitan

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewatwood8641 ...well yes ...society is bending over backwards to try and accommodate these confused individuals but somehow that isnt enough ...they should learn the word compromise ...its how we can all get along.

@matthewatwood8641

Жыл бұрын

@@bepitan Compromise is not appropriate for everything. No special sports teams, no special bathrooms, and no special name and pronouns. People who suffer from gender dysphoria are not a third sex. They need psychotherapy to help them accept themselves the way they are, instead of trying to turn the world upside down to accommodate their delusions.

Thank you. Women having been losing ground big time

I wish ALL trans people (and their allies) had this attitude. Corinna presents a balanced, non-partisan perspective, and clearly has genuine empathy with women. This issue doesn't stop at women's sports either. It's about ALL women's spaces -- public bathrooms, dressing rooms, even prisons -- and our language too (we aren't "cervix havers", thank you very much!). The vast majority of women who are now being cruelly branded "TERFs" and "right-wing bigots" are, in fact, very liberal. It's in our DNA to run to the defense of the marginalized. It was us who fiercely defended our gay friends back in the '70s and '80s, long before gay became trendy. Back then, it COST us something. I sometimes think we women should stop being so "nice", because now that WE need support, where are the men to speak up for us??? And why the hell are so many women arguing against their own interests??? At any rate, thank you for acknowledging us and recognizing that we need to find solutions that ensure the privacy and dignity of ALL parties.

@pinwheelart2825

10 ай бұрын

If he had empathy, he wouldn't mock us daily by presenting as a misogynistic characature of what he thinks a woman is. No matter how you slice it, he is still a narcissistic man in woman face.

@NegativeMass85

10 ай бұрын

​@@pinwheelart2825 I'm not entirely unsympathetic with your pov, tbh. But I guess it doesn't bother me AS much, so long as they're willing to publicly acknowledge biological fact.

Corrina, thank you for lending your voice to this cause. Your experience and level thinking is very much appreciated. And this discussion was well worth the listen. And BTW... you look freaking amazing for your age. I think the medical community has failed trans women by affirming the belief that trans women are real women. I saw a medical website where this was put forth. In so doing, the medical profession has also failed society because this is where were are now. If all trans people would be helped to accept this truth, like you have, I don't believe it would have come to this. I too believe there should be a third space. You have the right to feel just as comfortable in a changing room as anyone else. I hope someday we get there. Keep fighting the good fight. And thanks ICONS for another great discussion. 😊

Corinna Cohn, People will have more respect and compassion for the trans community because of you.

8:33 it’s always about infringement on Women’s rights.

It's the political parties using this as a wedge issue to campaign on. That's what has made this a problem.

Go Corinna! I always love listening to you speak and I love your dry humour! I think you said it all really well here and you are really helping!

I still reject this idea that genders can be transitioned between. It seems to be an idea that's been taken up without a lot of push back, even amongst ppl who appear to be skeptical of other claims made by trans activists.

@baconsarny-geddon8298

Жыл бұрын

I do too. But I still respect people like Corinna, Buck Angel, Blair White, etc for being on the correct side of this issue, and helping to stamp out the narrative that this is just about "hating trans people". To me, transgenderism (among CONSENTING ADULTS) is about freedom of religion- Adults should be free to act, dress, believe WHATEVER they want; They can't make me pretend to SHARE their beliefs (belief in Scientology, or in "changing genders", or Christianity, or Islam)... but I'd be a hypocrite, if I said they need to share MY belief, that Scientology, "gender changing", Islam, Christianity, etc are false. There are religious people I respect, even though I don't share their religious beliefs. Exactly like I can respect Corinna or Buck Angel or Blair White, without sharing their belief in "changing genders". I still REFUSE to use sex-incorrect "preferered pronouns" for them, because I won't pretend to believe the lie that Corinna or Blair are "women", or that Angel is "a man"... But the trans people I respect are those who AREN'T pushing the lie of "trans-women ARE women", so that's fine. So at the same time, out of respect, it's not hard to avoid using ANY pronouns for trans people I respect like Corinna or Blair, because I know they don't like being addressed with correct "he/him" pronouns. These issues, of preventing the mutilation of kids, keeping men out of women's sports and prisons are important enough, that I'll take ANY support- Sure, I have differences of opinion with trans people, Muslims, far-left feminsist, Evangelical Christians, etc... but THIS isn't the time to get distracted with that. Nobody is SAYING that you need to pretend that Corinna is "a woman"- I can promise you, you're not the only one here to disagree with that idea (and I'm pretty sure there are videos where Corrina AGREES to not being "a woman")... But especially for people who currently AGREE with letting biological men in women:s sport, voices like Corrina's are EXTREMELY valuable- Maybe even the MOST likely voices, to get fence-sitters onto the side of sanity...

@bepitan

Жыл бұрын

the best approach is to allow people to do what they like to their own bodies but don't demand anybody else to play along with it if they don't want to...

@John-tl6vp

Жыл бұрын

@@bepitan hi. Sorry I don't understand the connection between you comment and mine. Would you explain.

@bepitan

Жыл бұрын

@@John-tl6vp ...well in effect what i am saying is that whether you accept or not the idea that people can transition is irrelevant once we establish the idea that nobody else has to be forced to recognise it.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Excellent speech though ❤

6:13 You sound like the trans aunt that those girls in your family need. But how I wish you had been accepted as a gender non-conforming boy and man!

I agree that women also need to be involved in changing society to make men's and boys spaces and sports teams more inclusive of boys and men that are different. I also believe men need to be involved in protecting women's and girls spaces. I've seen a lot of those feminists that want men to stay out of our battle, and tell men it's up to them to make men's spaces more inclusive. But I think we're all in this together. I greatly appreciate men and women that speak up for women. I think one thing women can do to make men's and boys spaces more inclusive is to think about how we view and talk about men that are more stereotypically feminine. I've seen women be very denigrating to such men. And then off they go complaining about toxic masculinity. I think a lot of this has kind of grown over the years out of popular movies and tv shows that set the man up as the butt of every joke and his wife as this snippy little 'girl boss' that always puts him in his place. I started seeing this dynamic a little more subtly in the sixties, and has grown more and more obvious, mean and pervasive through the decades. Before social media started messing up people minds, tv and movie did more of a number on previous generations than a lot of us like to admit. We need to take our own minds back and treat each other with kindness and respect.

@marisaera2353

Жыл бұрын

We've got enough to do defending our own rights against men. If they want change, let them make it.

@lancewalker2595

10 ай бұрын

The “trans” option probably seems like a fairly attractive alternative to a kid who has the misfortune of being a cis white male… who are, of course, complicit in a system of rape culture, misogyny, and white supremacy.

No. No exception. Ever. Kellie Jay Keen has lead the way and we will hold the line. STOP WEAPONIZING “COMPASSION”. Women… STOP BEING “NICE”, you are destroying all the rights your mothers and grandmothers fought for! And you are taking all women down with your need to be “nice” and “fair”. NO!

Yes!

Remember in the "men's" sports women can participate. The MLB, NBA,NFL,NHL, etc. all allow women to participate in their leagues. So a transwoman can participate in professional football for example. No need for a transwoman to be in the woman's sport. So they do have rights to play sports. And yes, in general trans people should be held to the same standards and get existing piviledges as non trans people.

❤Absolutely agree; we need to have a broader and less confining view of what it is to be man or woman. “Girly”men need to be accepted just as tomboy girls need to be .

@matthewatwood8641

Жыл бұрын

They have been for a long time. This is a recent phenomenon. A man is a human male. Doesn't matter if he's gay or feminine or whatever.

@lancewalker2595

10 ай бұрын

The “trans” option probably seems like a fairly attractive alternative to a kid who has the misfortune of being a cis white male… who are, of course, complicit in a system of rape culture, misogyny, and white supremacy.

Thank you

Bravo!

Nuanced! Love it.

Good lord please please just start a trans devision..... And lets end alll the broohaha...

Bravo👏👏👏

Thank you Corinna for your words and for just beeing a normal person it is possible to talk to.❤❤

Where sex matters there needs to be a third category or space - this includes sports, prisons, spaces where women are vulnerable eg hospitals and hospital wards, personal health care, intimate care, changing rooms and toilets, rape and abuse crisis centres etc and where women cannot compete with males on a level footing both due to physical ability and also due to historic or systematic societal oppression and inequality

@janelliot5643

Жыл бұрын

Such a nice fantasy - that these MEN are who they claim - they are sexual fetishists. Your intent is so well-meaning, but you're sadly uninformed about this issue.The men with transvestic fetishism want to go into the women's room. They do not want a separate space. It's not privacy they seek, it's the opposite; women pretending they think these men are women turns them on: they're demanding that we be participants in their fetish

Thank you very much ❤

Thank you ma'am!

Here children's sports are segregated based on weight prior to about 10 or so. Fun games types sorts. There are some 10 y.o. boys of Polynesian origins who can easily foot it with 15 y.o.

Love Corinna. Beautiful person and wise voice to help others. Omg you are forever young, Corinna

Couldn’t hear his speech. All the best

In regards to "more inclusive male sports" I recall in elementary school being a boy who was often chosen nearly last for a team like on kickball, and its not even that I wasn't athletic, but more just shy and quiet and non self-promotional, and not even wanting attention. Even through high school I never joined a team, but I'd run on the track alone. I recall field day in elementary school had a jump roping competition and I jumped "competively" against myself in private, time and counts, revolutions per minute, forwards/backwards, but didn't sign up in 4th grade because I thought it was a girlsport. But I did compete in 5th grade, and won first, and in 6th grade the combined boys and girls, and best girl jump roper was in my homeroom, so we had to compete just to reach the final, and we went over 10 minutes before she missed, and I went on to win overall in 6th grade for a blue ribbon. So I'm proud of that, but really I still tell myself, I maybe wasn't best, just knew it was a windy day, so I jumped very carefully to avoid missing. I also took gymnastics in middle school, only really liked the tumbling parts, didn't feel very safe on beam or bars or other events. Anyway, if you asked me what it would take for me to join competitive sports, I'd say more like gym class, where you do lots of different things, and no fixed teams, and some measure of self-improvement rather than competing against others. Like I'd consider "success" as playing volley ball and getting 20 hits back and forth rather than the ability to jump and spike to make it harder to hit back. My "golden rule" didn't allow aggressive sports, zero sum sports where you gain by making it harder for others to do their best. As an adult, I liked long distance running events because you're mostly running against the clock, and my being 10 seconds faster doesn't take away someone else being 8 second faster, than if we ran alone, whomever has the smaller time. We both can win if we do our best.

@matthewatwood8641

Жыл бұрын

So, how else should we taylor sports and Athletics to cater to you personally? Competition is not going anywhere, nor should it. Compete and something you're good at. Hotpoint a competition is to test ourselves and each other so we can become stronger, faster, better.

So well said.

This is great!

Well bully for you for stating the obvious but you are still not on our side. The problem is that as the number of people claiming to be transsexual gets large enough someone eventually starts pushing the boundaries until we get to the point where the lunatics are running the show. Give an inch and they will take a mile. It was inevitable.

i dont hve prblm with trans but they push it too far in sports, restroom usage, books in school, etc,...cuz i hve family members who r gay. yah, they aint trans but they r different other than their own-self gender

Isn't the ACLU supposed to just observe and not take a side?

Cohn might now support the right of women & girls to have our own sports, but frankly I am sick of males like Cohn being given platforms to provide a "Trans Perspective on Women's Sports" as this clip is billed. If ICONS really is an organization focused on women & girls, it should give women & girls a chance to speak rather than handing the mic to males like Cohn & applauding them for using common sense & not behaving like entitled selfish dxcks the way so many other males with a "trans perspective" like Lia Thomas, CeCe Telfer, Fallon Fox, Veronica Ivy & many more act.

@saradetlor361

Жыл бұрын

yes it feels alot like mansplaining

@Mario_DiSanto

Жыл бұрын

I disagree (fully disclaimer here I am a male). Without hearing from a transperson's perspective the argument stays in an "US (women) versus THEM (trans)" mentality. Where as if you have a transperson go against the grain, it then turns the debate into right versus wrong. This can help sway opinions for those who are on the fence for the topic.

@pitopishi

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for demonstrating once again that no one listens to women, only to men, even if they are dressed as women. Why do people like you only listen when "trans" people and men repeat the exact same things women have already said before?

@bxdxggxdxb2775

Жыл бұрын

I don't LIKE it, but it's just a political reality that trans males like Cohn are valuable in countering the narrative that "this is just about hating trans folx". For better or worse, a lot of people WILL take on board what somebody like Cohn says, when the same statement from a woman would be rejected as "a hateful, bigotted terf", much more easily (sad/unfair as that is. Turns out that the world ISN'T fair, who knew?!?) Opposition to "gender" nonsense is currently a hodge-podge of Christian consertjves, left-wing feminists, centrists/"classical liberals" from ythe "anti-sjw" thing a few years back, and probably a dozen other groups. INCLUDING a "anti-woke trans" (Cohn, Blair White, Buck Angela, etc) segment, and their fans. ...If ANY of those groups want to dig in their heels and be ideologues, demanding that EVERYONE needs to get onboard with MY agenda of enforcing/opposing traditional gender roles, or accepting/rejecting trans identity, or WHATEVER specific issue, this whole thing is screwed, and we may as well all start wearing pronoun pins, and hand our children over to Tavistock... What do you want? Men out of women's sports? Or ideological purity? Because it's ONE, or the OTHER. Having BOTH just isn't an option (hell, getting EITHER may not be an option. But at least it has SOME reasonable possibility, if we work together strategically) If you want to ACHIEVE anything (more that posturing) we need to focus on the specific issues we DO all agree on- No men in women's sport or prisons. Stop mutilating children. No compelled speech. Maybe wait til AFTER we've stopped them from sterilizing our children, before you start REJECTING SUPPORT, and priotitizing your own political purity, over children's health/rights of women and girls?

@blakefrancisboggs7526

Жыл бұрын

@@Mario_DiSanto yes exactly

I feel like we are fighting a loosing battle and all these insame trams activists are going to win.

People are used to telling women and girls to sit down and shut up. Men don't have to and will not put up with this nonsense.

@lancewalker2595

10 ай бұрын

Really? Where the hell have you been these past few decades… the feminist ideology has dominated every aspect male identity culturally and institutionally. The American Psychological Association literally defines “masculinity ideology” (being a boy) as a psychopathology. You should pay more attention.

@pinwheelart2825

10 ай бұрын

​@@lancewalker2595you should look into what they pathologize in women. 🤦🏽‍♀️

@lancewalker2595

10 ай бұрын

@@pinwheelart2825 What do you expect from a group of misanthropes?

For whatever reason, she decided to have a sex change operation at age 18. WTF? That was a rather nonchalant description of such a serious life decision.

@carmelmoore7012

2 ай бұрын

@gloriaf6971 I think that is partly her manner of speaking, and also the fact that this interview was not about her personal story. I've heard her speak elsewhere in more detail about her story and she was not nonchalant.

I don't necessarily disagree with her. However I don't think legislatures are the place to deal with this, least of all legislatures controlled by a bunch of right-wing holier-than-thou religious people who are just now showing an interest in women's sports, for the first time ever, ONLY because it lines up with their culture wars agenda. Even with a legislature made up of rational people, this is a complex issue with nuances, and a legislature is a blunt instrument. Every sport is different, and every sport has a governing federation which is specialized in and focused on their sport - and that is the right place to make these decisions.

@allie9928

Жыл бұрын

What's the alternative to the "blunt instrument"? Should women and girls have to lobby every individual sporting body at every level from elementary to college level, and elite sports? That sounds like both an impractical and costly endeavor just to prove sex differences are real and matter in sports. All of this culture waring in the legislature could have been largely avoided if we had simply left Title 9 alone, which has enjoyed bipartisan support for decades, until we tried to reinterpret it through the framework of gender. Now women and girls have to fight the battle for sex- specific protections all over again.

@njhoepner

Жыл бұрын

@@allie9928 It means the people with the necessary expertise make the decision...does not require lobbying and does not require culture wars, which is the ONLY reason any of the legislators are even remotely interested. The moment they get their way, their regard for women's sports will go right back to where it always was and always will be.

@bxdxggxdxb2775

Жыл бұрын

If you value the team-sport of "left vs right" partisanism, more than you value the rights of women and girls, and the health of children, you are ALREADY actively helping the removal of the rights of womeñ and girls. Being a "rusted-on" supporter of EITHER side of politics = CHOOSING to farm out your decision-making to some stranger. Republicans are trash... but Dems are NO BETTER. The only way to change the dumpster-fire of the current, hyper-partisan political hellscape, where ALL politicuans know they can do what they goddam please, because "what are ya gonna do?!? Vote for the OTHER side?!", is to do EXACTLY THAT. ALL politicians need to know that you ARE willing to take your vote elsewhere, or else WHY WOULD THEY GIVE A CRAP ABOUT YOU?!? You have already SHOWN THEM that they can fart right in your face, and you will STILL support them, their garbage policies, their CONSISTENT erosion of our rights, and expansion of their own salary/pension... so WHAT POSSIBLE REASON do they have, to care if you approve of them, or not?!? Politicians ALL need to know that they are ONE bad policy away from losing your vote. If DON'T show them that, then don't EVER complain about our terrible gov't- You are CHOOSING to give them 100% unthinking, unconditional support.

@dynamic75

Жыл бұрын

Either you’re dreadfully uninformed or extremely dim. Sports organizations like the IOC have already ruled on this issue, for some time now, and they decided biological advantages have ceased to exist. Legislation IS the route to correct this metastatic delusion!

@pinwheelart2825

10 ай бұрын

Him. He is a man.

Awwww...feeed the narcissist. 🙄🙄🙄