Contraception, NFP, and Humanae Vitae in Christian Historical Thought and the Orthodox Church

On July 25th, 1968, Pope Paul VI, the same Pope who gleefully ransacked the traditional Latin mass and replaced it with what is essentially a Lutheran Sunday service, issued the encyclical Humanae Vitae. The encyclical came after roughly a century of debate on the topic of contraception.
In this video we delve into the history of Christian thought on contraception and abortion, its origins, and how it shaped (or didn't shape) Humanae Vitae and the modern Roman Catholic and Orthodox positions.
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-- Bibliography --
Unless otherwise stated, all citations are taken from ANF and NPNF series edited by Schaff.
Bradshaw, David. “What Does it Mean to be Contrary to Nature?”
Mahoney, John. "The Making of Moral Theology: A Study of the Roman Catholic Tradition." Clarendon Press, 1989
McLaren, Angus. "History of Contraception From Antiquity to the Present Day." Blackwell Publishers, 1st Ed. 1992
Noonan, John T. "Contraception. A History of Its Treatment by the Catholic Theologians and Canonists." Harvard University Press, 1986
Origen of Alexandria "Homilies on Genesis and Exodus (Fathers of the Church Patristic Series)." Trans. Ronald E. Heine, CUA, 1982
St. Ambrose of Milan "Commentary of Saint Ambrose on the Gospel according to Saint Luke" trans. Ide M. Ni Riain, Dublin 2001. [FOUND HERE: library.mibckerala.org/lms_fra... ]
St. Caesarius of Arles. "Sermons: 1-80 (Fathers of the Church Patristic Series)." Trans. Sr. Mary Magdaleine Mueller O.S.F. CUA, 1956.
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  • @thattimestampguy
    @thattimestampguy2 жыл бұрын

    0:53

  • @hjyahi7972
    @hjyahi79722 жыл бұрын

    marriage just became way less deaireable for me wow I have 0 chance of following any of this.

  • @justicewhite4739
    @justicewhite47392 жыл бұрын

    I love how St Basil at the end just comes in with the hammer of truth , I actually laughed out loud , Glory to God

  • @Felipe-kv8qd
    @Felipe-kv8qd2 жыл бұрын

    This is gonna be a fun one

  • @Branwolfe1
    @Branwolfe1 Жыл бұрын

    Knowing this, is there even hope for any of us? I feel very distraught. Lord have mercy

  • @milanvlaski8843
    @milanvlaski88432 жыл бұрын

    Is it therefore perfect to procreate exactly once a month, during the wife's fertility period? And doing it any more than this, to avoid infidelity or any such greater sin, is an imperfection?

  • @vaskaventi6840
    @vaskaventi68402 жыл бұрын

    Am I right to take away from this that there was near patristic consensus against natural family planning?

  • @Val.Kyrie.
    @Val.Kyrie. Жыл бұрын

    St Basil the based. I was getting worried with all the “it’s okay to kill babies if they’re little enough” talk. They have little legs and arms and a beating heart before we even know we are pregnant, so when would the abortion be legit then? Before knowing?

  • @cw8790
    @cw87902 жыл бұрын

    I'm converting from Catholicism was wondering what the opinion is on rebaptism if I was baptized as a baby in a Catholic Church

  • @zanev5832
    @zanev58322 жыл бұрын

    Why is Clement of Alexandria listed as "(St.) Clement of Alexandria" in the slides where he's quoted? My impression is that he was influential and important, but not a saint.

  • @theimaginator7232
    @theimaginator72322 жыл бұрын

    Are you implying that NFP is justifiable if one is Orthodox, but it is not if one is Latin because Latin claims contradict one another?

  • @educationalporpoises9592
    @educationalporpoises95922 жыл бұрын

    I've been thinking about this quite a bit. Partially, it's because I'd like to have the room in my household to adopt as well as have my own children, and partially because I've caught some anxiety about bringing children into a stressful household situation with more kids than either I or my future wife may be able to handle... which, I suppose, should be alleviated by a function of the local parish.

  • @floridaman318
    @floridaman318

    The condemnation as mortally sinful of sex positions other than missionary by celibates is one of the most autistic things ive ever heard.

  • @cw8790
    @cw87902 жыл бұрын

    Wow this video is alarming may God give us strength to abstain from our lust

  • @pdstor
    @pdstor Жыл бұрын

    As a note relevant but completely on the side, my wife, who is a Latin Mass Catholic, has similar concerns over Humanae and NFP, and Orthodox Talks talked me out of the same some years ago. Sadly, prior to that, we followed HV (and prior to that, we were at first not at all, and then for a few years just barely and remotely anything close to Christian). Not long after rejecting HV/the GOARCH view of things, I became crippled, leading us to mutually and immediately decide on continual refraining.

  • @airs0ftmastr
    @airs0ftmastr Жыл бұрын

    10:31

  • @alexandros0828
    @alexandros08282 жыл бұрын

    Algo

  • @user-kr4xp6sc7w
    @user-kr4xp6sc7w

    Really confused on what the video was trying to get at. Is the argument Orthodox should only have sexual relations with their lawful spouse for procreation alone??? Very confused...

  • @madcyborg1822
    @madcyborg18222 жыл бұрын

    Obviously abortion is a sin, even early abortion such as birth control. Anything that kills the sperm is a sin.

  • @smyrnean4967
    @smyrnean49672 жыл бұрын

    Just one correction, Clement of Alexandria is not a saint. Not only was he never canonized, but he was rebuked severely by St. Photius the Great on a multitude of topics.

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