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I'm glad Cybenetics is becoming the de facto standard. 80Plus is getting old and iirc it already was limited, while the specification was easy to cheat on. Having Corsair fully embracing Cyben is a great thing. Like them or not, they're a massive brand - and to be fair, their PSUs are good, and competitively priced. Unlike their fans and watercooling gear, which is neither.

It was about time for Cyben to take over. About Nvidia desktop graphics cards we yet have to see. Things seem rough.

great, thank you !!!

Ok, i' m not gonna lie the highlight of Computex 2024 was that hooters girl, and i' m surprised she made it to the video. So khants Eri...

@grigeri394

2 ай бұрын

I was there!!!!😂🎉😅

good riddance if nv would leave GPU market. before mining top GPUs cost 600 and were capable to run anything at then-top monitors resolution @4k 60fps with max settings. in 2024 the 4090 for $2k can't even run modern game @1440p - alan wake 2 is just 52fps. the 4090 is basically a 1080p card now. and should be priced accordingly to its capabilities around 130 bucks. the 4080/s with 41fps @ 1440p should be $100 as a basic 1080p card in modern games in 2024. gamers shouldn't care about nv servers GPUs. if you don't care about gamers - free the market of your presence, I'm pretty sure without having to compete with nv GPU market can have a chance because everybody would like a chance to make their own GPU when nv isn't monopolizing the market. somebody also should force amd to make radeon a standalone company that isn't sacrificed to make obsolete hardware in consoles look good in comparison with overpriced PC GPUs

@Mike500

2 ай бұрын

While i agree that high-end cards have become far too expensive (same with high-end motherboards), your conclusion of how much a 4080 and 4090 should cost are completely ridiculous. Do you know what kind of VRM solutions are used on those cards? The VRM components for each card probably already cost more than $130 to buy. Then we haven't talked about things like high-speed memory chips, gigantic coolers with lots of heatpipes and so on. Yes, they could probably cut the prices in half if they wanted (and if they had a reason to do so in terms of competition, supply vs. demand and so forth), but anything even approaching the prices you mentioned and they would be making huge losses per card (plus, it's not really NVIDIA selling the finished cards, it's more the board partners). About the games, if you set everything to highest ultra setting, of course there will be games that can even bring the high-end cards to its knees. That has been the case through modern AAA game history ("But can it run Crysis?"). If you don't have such games with very challenging settings, there would not be as much incentive to improve the graphics cards for each generation either. So, there are lots of things wrong in the GPU market, but selling them at a loss for dumping prices, this cannot happen. It would already be nice if they returned to the previous pricing levels (before mining/covid), selling something like a 4060 for 150-200 bucks.

@rawdez_

Ай бұрын

@@Mike500 no, components don't cost as much especially in bulk orders as manufacturers get them. also wasn't talking about "fair price to manufacturers", I was talking about how much that level of performance should cost in 2024. if corporations want to sell 1080p cards in 2024 - they should cost around 1080p 100hz monitors price of $100. if they price a GPU @ $1000 it should run 8k 120fps in MODERN 2024 games without upscale or glitchy fakd frames.

@rawdez_

Ай бұрын

@@Mike500 "competition" lol. corporations are milking the market and competing is the last thing they do because competition drops prices.

@rawdez_

Ай бұрын

@@Mike500 everything on a top card like 4090 costs 100-150 bucks - apart from a GPU chip itself. and its all made BIGGER specifically for marketing reasons to make buyer believe he gets what he pays for. you don't. you get an obsolete 1080p piece of crap that needs upscale and glitchy fake frames to actually run modern games at BUDGET 1440p resolution, budget because 1440p 180Hz monitors cost $200 now.

@Mike500

Ай бұрын

@@rawdez_ On a 4090 they use a 16- to 26-phase VRM for GPU voltage, the components for each phase probably cost a couple dollars (it's not simple discrete MOSFETs anymore for $1 a pop, they use at least a DrMOS there). Even with a conservative estimate, they probably spend at least $50 for the VRM components, but probably more. Then you add the cooler and the PCB and the VRAM and you're at your price already, and they haven't even ordered the actual GPU chip from NVIDIA yet. That's what i meant. And how do you get from Full HD to 8K? That is 16x (!) as many pixels, so the graphics card would have to be 16x as powerful. I see how disillusioned you are about the GPU market, and some of it is fully justified, but the conclusions you draw are a bit... off the wall.