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Comparing Shohei and Trout to the All-Time Greats | MLB Tonight
Harold Reynolds gives a breakdown on Shohei Ohtani and Mike Trout and makes sure we realize we are watching two of the greatest ever.
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He’s not the next Babe Ruth. He’s the first Shohei Ohtani.
@deelo2281
Жыл бұрын
And he’s better than Ruth too
@brandonmoucatel9630
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@@deelo2281 i don't know about that
@brandonmoucatel9630
Жыл бұрын
He's pretty close to babe
Ohtani >> Ruth There’s no one like Shohei 😂
@billwoods7578
Жыл бұрын
Ruth still has the title of GOAT imo, but Ohtani is the best player of all time imo
Ohtani finna be the Michael Jordan of baseball. Mark my words
He’s so beyond Ruth. It’s goatani.
RUTH STOPPED PITCHING AT AGE 24. OHTANI IS ON HIS OWN. SORRY BUT WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. STOP COMPARING 😂😂😂 HOPE BOTH OF THEM STAYS HEALTHY🤷🏻♂️
Sho on his own wave his own platform
Its like comparing a modern power lifter to a vintage lifter, every aspect of nutrition/training/tech has improved not to mention with how many more people have access to baseball now the talent pool is everyone instead of only middle class white men.
Ohtani is THE Best player on the planet, in human history
Shohei > Ruth
What Babe has done over the years was amazing and we will never forget that but what Ohtani is facing now cannot be compared to what Babe did. Babe has faced plumbers and farmers….didn’t even face the black players! Ohtani is facing the top talents from all over the world!!!! Totally different level. You can’t really compare these two players apples to apples.
@jinthao00
Жыл бұрын
Facts. Babe isn't hitting balls from pitchers today or striking out batters today.
@VuongPham-iy8zm
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@Maxtor No. Babe Ruth didn´t face black players as well, since they were in the Negro League baseball
@westhoodqualzini7884
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@@jinthao00 put shoehei back in that era with no training, no technology, no practice and then put babe Ruth is this era with all amenities todays players have and tell me shoehei would be the same
@westhoodqualzini7884
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Your so wrong
i dont think american media will ever give Shohei this throne
@merrittpalmer4349
Жыл бұрын
they already are
@SDSOverfiend
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HE GOTTA EARN IT
@RunForPeace-hk1cu
Жыл бұрын
@@SDSOverfiendhe did already
@RunForPeace-hk1cu
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@@merrittpalmer4349no thru are not. Still clinging to nostalgia and narratives to downplay his accomplishments and abilities
@SDSOverfiend
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@@RunForPeace-hk1cu With what? WBC?
It's insulting to Ohtani to compare him with old timers.
Ruth only played against the whte players there were many great Black players during the time he never faced. Ohtani faced the world's best. No comparison.
Ohtai could be compared to the fastest splinter Usain bolt also winning a medal in marathon.
Ohtani>>
Hard to compare eras, since league wasn’t diverse like right now in 1910s and 1920s - but Babe Ruth dominated in his era like no other though he didn’t dominate on both bat and pitch like Shohei in the season - and probably could have if he didn’t devote to hitting full time with the Yankees. Shohei is dominating on both ends in a league that is diverse, and allowing him to do both. Though he is in a class of his own, a championship or two will put him in the pantheon of all time greats.
@tchlin
Жыл бұрын
The babe played 4 seasons in Boston and was a great pitcher but only hit 49 HRs in 4 years. It wasnt until he went to the Yanks and focused on hitting that he became a great hitter but didn't play against everyone at the time because of segregation. Also, no one was throwing the kind of gas or sliders and sinkers like today. Imo there really is no comparison but the old heads in American TV will continue to pretend.
@PapeySapote
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@@tchlin training and analytics are miles better than anything they had access to back then. You can’t compare the two.
@westhoodqualzini7884
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@@PapeySapote agreed
100 years ago is a big difference in advancement. 100 years ago the world record for 100m was 10.2, now even top high schoolers run that. You can't say Jesse Owens who ran 10.2 is better than Usain Bolt who ran a 9.67. You can't say a swimmer from 100 years ago is better than Michael Phelps. Athletes are more athletic and better with access to superior technology and knowledge. The athletes 100 years in the future will be better than the ones from now. Babe ruth played in an era where they threw a 85 mph fastball with only white people were allowed to play. Babe would be lucky to be in a team in today's league. Babe was a big fish in a small pond, Ohtani is a big fish in a big pond.
@travinator99
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Babe Ruth would be a superstar in today's game. Ohtani's batiing numbers will never be close to ruth's even if you adjusted for the league average.
@joneandi37
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@@travinator99 Babe played against 80 mph fastballs with ocassional curveballs. Stop it, lol. In every sport the athletes from 100 years ago are not as good as now. ESPECIALLY baseball because of segregation. I bet you think the 5'11 white guy that runs a 4.9 40 from the 1940s is better than 6'4 4.3 running Randy Moss as well.
@RunForPeace-hk1cu
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@@travinator99still clinging on to nostalgia huh? The guy has been dead for decades 😂😂😂
@ohpeep3723
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@@travinator99 no one would take Babe Ruth in today games
@travinator99
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@@joneandi37 We're talking about hitting a baseball lol, Babe Ruth was ahead of his time, look when he hit 59 homers and the closest dude had 19..it's delusional to think he wouldn't at least be a all star in today's game with the new technology, training, and nutritional information that we have now.
Old films are played faster. Watch Babe Ruth run.
excellent!!
When someone ask me who won WBC 2023… I tell them the fans did 🏆
Ohtani = GOAT
you can't compare the speed on the base-paths. the black and white footage wasn't running at true speed!
ベーブルースも当たった時の打撃音すごい。
Babe Ruth is the only comparison, but even that’s not even close
@westhoodqualzini7884
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Put shoehei back then with no diet, training, or technology and tell me he would be the same player. Put babe Ruth in today with all amenities and he would be very different
@jonabundis2764
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@@westhoodqualzini7884 they’d probably wouldn’t let Ohtani play, because America was Racist. Ruth would’ve got smoked by everyone 💀
He’s better than Babe
nice take
Babe Ruth at his peak would be struck out by a teenager from the Dominican. Not a comparison
Kind of impossible to compare Ohtani and Ruth. Ohtani is facing better recruited and trained specimens, but Ruth was swinging at spitballs.
Babe Ruth is the old othani
Si OHTANI fuera EEUU otro sería el Cantar de los periodistas Americanos, me párese
He said “2 of the top 3 players”. Who else is in the top 3 according to this guy?
None of that stuff Sho and Trout doing don’t equate to wins like Mantle and Ruth.
And the team losing today
How would Babe Ruth perform in today's environment? Not very good. Today's athletes are much bigger stronger more athletic more skills more diverse than 100 years ago. They didn't have computers ipad to study the opponents back then. It is so much more difficult to hit a homerun today than 100 years ago.
@georgekouts
Жыл бұрын
Really? Yet players still threw 90+, swung heavier bats, hit heavier balls out of larger baseball fields (We saw Mantle in this clip on a 457 foot field)... and ran just as fast as the top players of today! Wake up, bruh!
@samurai_8917
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@@georgekouts so because he played pre precision manufacturing that makes ruth some kind of super human? Facts are humans have gotten bigger stronger and faster by every metric so its not even a fair comparison
@georgekouts
Жыл бұрын
@@samurai_8917 Exactly! It's NOT! Because those old timers played with heavier lumber, hit heavier baseballs that had no pop, like now, and cranked them out of fields that were 30 - 40 feet larger than todays... off pitchers who were still throwing 90+ ! Those guys were true legends and amazing players! Today, not so much! But goofy youngsters like you and Eye BeeBak seem to think that modern athletes are the SH!T, and the old timers sucked! Not the case! Take care!
@eyebeebak
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@@georgekouts Babe played in the original Polo ground with the Yankees and could barely hit any HR. Then they built a brand new stadium called Yankee stadium and shortened the outfield by 80 feet (quarter of a football field) for Babe and he started hitting HR with his eyes closed. Their guys couldn't hit HR so most of the East coast stadiums were built smaller so their guys could hit HR. that's why Aaron Judge decided to stay in NY because he knows he won't hit more than 50 HR in west coast stadiums.
@PapeySapote
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The same way ohtani would perform had he been born in the old days? You can’t compare the eras due to the fact training and analytics is far superior today.
Nice teeth Mike, grandmas cranberry sauce was good
If babe ruth had access to modern equipment and training facilities, he'd still be babe ruth
@joneandi37
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He would be lucky to be in a team, he played in an era where they threw 80 mph fastballs with white people only.
@westhoodqualzini7884
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Agreed 🤝
Yes, Shohei Ohtani will never surpass Babe Ruth in his lifetime. Can we finish this story now? Stop asking sticky questions
@RunForPeace-hk1cu
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😂😂😂😂😂 butthurt an Asian is better than all American baseball player 😂😂😂
@feynmanschwingere_mc2270
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Ohtani is better than Ruth
@westhoodqualzini7884
Жыл бұрын
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Put shoehei back then with no diet, training, or technology and tell me he would be the same player. Put babe Ruth in today with all amenities and he would be very different
I truly think Ohtani is a highly overrated player. Not when comes to pitching. pitching he's a badass, but when it it comes batting, he'a just an average player.
Shohei surpasses Ruth as a two-way player, but Ruth is still the better baseball player.
Please dont compare Ohtani to Ruth