Coming to Grips With Gravity

Ғылым және технология

The mysteries of dark matter and dark energy may be evidence that we don’t fully understand the force of gravity. But when it comes to a force that has been studied mathematically and probed observationally for hundreds of years, what do we still need to learn? What questions are being asked? What research is pursued at the cutting edge? Would a new theory of gravity lead to a grand revolution in science, or do our present theories just need to be tweaked?
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Original program date: June 4, 2016
MODERATOR: Richard Panek
PARTICIPANTS: Pedro Ferreira, David Gross, Szabolcs Marka, Rachel A Rosen, Maria Spiropulu
Richard Panek Introduction 00:07
What is gravity? 2:39
A brief history of gravity 5:50
Space is fluctuating 14:22
Einstein and his equations 18:50
What changes in the 60's for science 24:39
Science and it's social development 34:19
How does dark matter fit in to gravity? 36:00
Why does dark energy get invoked in gravity? 48:00
Experimenters don't care? 58:10
What other phenomenon can create gravitational waves? 1:03:35
Black holes are amazing 1:11:01
Do all quantum mechanical process take place in space time? 1:18:26
What are your thoughts on a warp drive? 1:21:50
Does dark energy relate to dark matter? 1:22:59

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  • @WorldScienceFestival
    @WorldScienceFestival6 жыл бұрын

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  • @jennanelson5453

    @jennanelson5453

    4 жыл бұрын

    I believe dark energy is a positive pressure exerted by the vacuum energy of space-time, and that what we are calling dark matter is merely the effects of dark energy on regular matter. A positive pressure exerted by space-time's vacuum energy predicts; -the accelerating universe -the expanding universe -we should measure there to be more mass than we can see matter being accountable for -matter in the center of a galaxy / cluster should have added relativistic mass, increasing its gravitational attraction, as well as its escape velocity -matter in the outer regions of a galaxy / cluster should be moving faster than we predict, sometimes faster than our predicted maximum orbital speed without flying out of orbit.

  • @SzymonWeiss

    @SzymonWeiss

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great. Firstly though, at this level, it is not suitable to pronounce your guests' names incorrectly

  • @kleimer40

    @kleimer40

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome! Beyond me.. surly there's much more plains that science and spirituality could come together to become aware of.

  • @sivasliyizlagardaaasssserd6378

    @sivasliyizlagardaaasssserd6378

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ok

  • @cwb0110

    @cwb0110

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gonna be completely honest here; I indulge in psychedelics whenever I can, and when I do, this kind of stuff blows my mind, so I’ll go out on a limb and assume I’m probably not your guy. But that first dude that commented May be on to something 🤔

  • @jamesdolan4042
    @jamesdolan40424 жыл бұрын

    David being a Nobel prize winner, makes him the unquestioned God of the group. He is acting accordingly. The moderator should have ensured everybody got an equal say in the group.

  • @metameta1427

    @metameta1427

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree. This was one of the more poorly moderated professional talks I’ve seen. The moderator should lead the group and guide the topics. The guy’s moderation was almost non existent. David was just trying to fill the silence. At points it was almost cringe. Seems like the organizers opened the door and got the first guy off the street who was walking by to lead this talk. Hard to watch at times.

  • @Quark.Lepton

    @Quark.Lepton

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shut up and stop the meta-babble. We’re lucky we ever got to see this discussion.

  • @jamesdolan4042

    @jamesdolan4042

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Quark.Lepton Fair enough, but everybody is entitled to an opinion, since the presentation is in the public realm. Perhaps then you could be less ignorant with your phrasing of language.

  • @Quark.Lepton

    @Quark.Lepton

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesdolan4042 When “opinions” are actually politically-motivated memes that help to endanger your fellow-Americans’ lives we must call them out for what they truly are. For example, elderly Vietnam Vets risked their lives and their ‘freedom’ and, even when drafted, went to war. The majority served proudly protecting our way of life. Today we have people that won’t even wear a fcking piece of cloth on their faces or get a shot to protect those same elderly Americans. We all know why they’re doing it and it has nothing to do with “freedumb”. It absolutely disgusts me.

  • @brianjames8677

    @brianjames8677

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Quark.Lepton So if we’re lucky we need to shut up? Can that be applied to all luck? Seems you didn’t think it through. So STFU!! Yes, if you don’t think before speaking or commenting, shut up.

  • @45414
    @454147 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed this session, especially Szabolcs, Rachel and Maria. Their passion for science is contagious.

  • @Ebruskaya
    @Ebruskaya2 жыл бұрын

    I love it when scientists say "We don't know". ❤️ How humble they are and how diligent in describing what they know and what they don't. Another precious discussion. Thank you World Science Festival.

  • @Leadership_matters

    @Leadership_matters

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish my boss would say that occasionally. And they are 1/2 as smart as the average person in that room!

  • @acdnan
    @acdnan7 жыл бұрын

    I watch these motherfucking videos as soon as I see the notification

  • @hanniffydinn6019

    @hanniffydinn6019

    7 жыл бұрын

    acdnan that makes only 2 of us

  • @armaan00007

    @armaan00007

    7 жыл бұрын

    me too

  • @mikeyangyang8816

    @mikeyangyang8816

    7 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @clarecardy54

    @clarecardy54

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yep ☝️️👍

  • @acdnan

    @acdnan

    7 жыл бұрын

    Seamus Mac Sir I am honored that you replied to my comment. For your comment is by far the best comment I have read the internet. Thank You

  • @tedl7538
    @tedl75387 жыл бұрын

    Great job Maria at 1:02:24 breaking up the schoolyard fight and pulling everything back on track!

  • @taunteratwill1787

    @taunteratwill1787

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep, a bit late though....

  • @zackfair7913

    @zackfair7913

    5 жыл бұрын

    You mean great job Maria acting like a huge crazy mad cow that she actually looks like with her skulls? Ok I get your point better now. They were simply having a science discussion and this huge jealous disgusting cow intervened like she was some kind of asylum escapee ready to kill you because you wearing a white T-shirt on a white T-shirt assemble?

  • @symonpalmer20
    @symonpalmer204 жыл бұрын

    This video is the most beautiful filmic thing, such wonderful descriptions, discussions, fluid conversation with Gravity being, well, what Gravity is, a force by which we discover more and more by simply trying to understand it's very nature. Wonderful. A KZread video that now sits with all the most fabulous films I have seen.

  • @philswede
    @philswede7 жыл бұрын

    great debate and Rachel kinda outsmarted the Nobel price dude 😂

  • @wojtek_freak_of_science

    @wojtek_freak_of_science

    6 жыл бұрын

    You mean this condescending old man with ego of universe. His time already passed and he's annoyed and angry on every person that has other theories than his own.

  • @dantayler8911

    @dantayler8911

    2 жыл бұрын

    Both women are annoying and are vapid!

  • @dantayler8911

    @dantayler8911

    2 жыл бұрын

    ‘Nobel Prize’ dude is visionary and enthralling, while both women have the voice of 🐈 ‘cats mating’……… 🎤 drop! 💥

  • @iTweetify
    @iTweetify7 жыл бұрын

    Had to wait 48 minutes before Rachel got the chance to speak.

  • @pronounjow

    @pronounjow

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but the guy said she was only there to talk about dark energy, anyway. She could have interrupted at any time if she had something else to say.

  • @zoz0boy

    @zoz0boy

    7 жыл бұрын

    She is a boss like that

  • @paxdriver

    @paxdriver

    7 жыл бұрын

    iTweetify I'm glad I scanned the comments. Thanks dude. *skip*

  • @annecorley7867

    @annecorley7867

    7 жыл бұрын

    She had to get her mad up

  • @moonlight.3x3

    @moonlight.3x3

    6 жыл бұрын

    iTweetify amen sister!

  • @twstdelf
    @twstdelf7 жыл бұрын

    Nice show notes! Appreciated. :)

  • @neilanderson891
    @neilanderson8914 жыл бұрын

    At 1:18:35, a member of the audience asks, "Do all quantum (uh) mechanical processes take place in space-time?" David Gross started talking, but even after replaying his answer several times, I'm not sure whether his answer is "yes", "no", or "we don't know". He talked about space-time, reality, manifolds, etc. He could have provided some clarity such as by defining "Reality" as "Any system that's run by Mother nature", and defining a "Model" as "Our best guess(es) at how Mother Nature runs one of her Systems". BTW, sometimes I think that "our best guess" may be over-stated. For example: A Singularity is supposedly a "dimensionless point" where scientists claim the mass of the Black Hole (let me refer to that mass as the "Kernel") gets crushed-down to -0- length, -0- width and -0- depth. However, it might be the case that Mother Nature is always able to avoid creating any singularity simply by requiring an infinite amount of time for the Kernel to be crushed into a dimensionless point (i.e., the Singularity). In fact, if it doesn't take an "infinite amount of time", then it simply might take a LOT of time, say, a googolplex of years (i.e., 10 raised to the power of a googol; a googol is 10 raised to the power of 100), compared to the (accepted) notion that our Universe is merely "13.7 x ten raised to the power of 6" years old. In other words, Mother Nature could allow the current Universe to "evaporate" into nothingness (all atomic particles decay into energy) before any Kernel has existed long enough to become a Singularity. Let me unpack that: --> As a mere lay person, my general understanding is this: As any part of a gravitational field (approaches and) reaches infinity, the passage of time (slows and then) stops (within that part of the gravitational field). (Wait - "reaching any infinity" is something you certainly can object to, and you have every right to scoff at it, but, come on, you have to agree to accept the concept of "having reached infinite gravity" simply because so many physicists talk openly and enthusiastically about Singularities as if they DO exist, with no mention of "when" they can exist.) This suggests (to a mere lay person like me) that Mother Nature might avoid the creation of a Singularity simply by slowing the "crushing-down of the Kernel" (via the dilation of time) so that it (literally) takes an infinite amount of time ... (i.e., from our perspective, in a significantly less intense gravitational field here on Earth, as we examine the heavens with our telescopes and imagination) ... for the Kernel to become a Singularity. So, if Mother Nature allows no Kernel to become a Singularity while the Universe exists as we know it, well then, one could philosophize that the Laws of Mother Nature are never violated ... if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? In this case, Mother Nature denies any forrest's existence, and denies the existence of anyone to disagree. Am I a Nihilist? Nope. Am I a heretic? Nope. Do I believe the Earth is flat? Nope. I just think that scientists do a lousy job of showing how or why they can rule-out simple solutions while they reach for the unimaginable. I wish they would publish important proofs for the lay audience, and unpack them, making them accessible to those who are interested in evaluating their unimaginable claims.

  • @MrThomasHaytes
    @MrThomasHaytes7 жыл бұрын

    "Coming to grips with Davis Gross"

  • @SsspraakForsskkarring

    @SsspraakForsskkarring

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's a stomach thing right? I won't google atm.

  • @SnaFubar_24

    @SnaFubar_24

    4 жыл бұрын

    He is a bit of a dick right? At least I found him so...

  • @godfreecharlie

    @godfreecharlie

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SnaFubar_24 The frustration is oozing out like an odor. Control issues.

  • @SnaFubar_24

    @SnaFubar_24

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@godfreecharlie Yes, David Gross has control issues, he can't control himself when it comes to interrupting or having the last word. He was arrogant and monopolized the conversation. I call that behaving like a bit of a dick...

  • @simesaid

    @simesaid

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, complete and utter dick. Considering how massive his head must be it's a wonder it hasn't just collapsed and become a black hole.

  • @devrante
    @devrante7 жыл бұрын

    i like the skulls on Maria's scarf!

  • @nelox666

    @nelox666

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like Maria.

  • @timreid99
    @timreid997 жыл бұрын

    David shuts down discussion by saying "no" before what he says next

  • @roberttrahan709
    @roberttrahan7094 жыл бұрын

    As an old submarine sailor curious about Gravity, I would be more comfortable hearing that Gravity is more of a dynamic situation caused by displacement of space-time media,( mass fabric,foam,fluidity,string, etc.), akin to how a submarine displaces water vectorially. Could one say That Gavity is less a "force", and more of a dynamic?? Is such

  • @muzikako4314

    @muzikako4314

    3 жыл бұрын

    David being a Nobel prize winner, makes him the unquestioned God of the group. He is acting accordingly. The moderator should have ensured everybody got an equal say in the group.

  • @curiosull
    @curiosull7 жыл бұрын

    Good simple explanations, thanks!

  • @-_Nuke_-
    @-_Nuke_-7 жыл бұрын

    Για σου ρε Μαρία! Δεν ξέρω αλλά νιώθω περήφανος να βλέπω Έλληνες επιστήμονες σε τέτοια πανελ! : )

  • @Gaminglaptopsjunky01
    @Gaminglaptopsjunky016 жыл бұрын

    this guy in the middle really takes a lot of space

  • @shirleymason7697

    @shirleymason7697

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think he’s earned it. A Nobelist.

  • @IconProduction01

    @IconProduction01

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@shirleymason7697 That explains a lot.... He probably has 0 real friends and 3 failed marriages. Completely off-putting attitude towards anyone else with a different opinion, and he just talks over people with no shame.

  • @shyamsarkar7199
    @shyamsarkar71997 жыл бұрын

    these videos are really awesome. i didn't thought it will hold me up for 1:25 hrs

  • @letsif
    @letsif7 жыл бұрын

    I love these long form dialogues.

  • @antonleimbach648
    @antonleimbach6487 жыл бұрын

    These discussions are awesome.

  • @glennfrancisco5525

    @glennfrancisco5525

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @ojnord
    @ojnord6 жыл бұрын

    I am amazed by the blizz from Maria and Rachel. Soo cool to see women rock at science. A true inspiation for my daughters. Thanks!

  • @ramaraksha01

    @ramaraksha01

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is depressing is to see the number of viewers of these videos and then compare them with any sexual videos on you tube

  • @pronounjow
    @pronounjow7 жыл бұрын

    Maybe we can study David and Maria. His gravitational pull is so strong that Maria can't help but lean towards him. Lol

  • @timreid99

    @timreid99

    7 жыл бұрын

    these two where my least favourite because both tried to dominate the discussion

  • @fullyawakened

    @fullyawakened

    7 жыл бұрын

    Rezillusionz Smith They are supposed to dominate the discussion. Everyone is pretty well informed how much time they will have, how long they will have to wait and what they are supposed to cover. This follows the same format as every other talk. One person gives an intro then pretty much shuts up for the rest of the talk, a few people fill the body of the discussion, then outliers, detractors, specialists or other non-mainstream people get a few minutes towards the end to present their data.

  • @timreid99

    @timreid99

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ahh, ok. Understood.

  • @Kalumbatsch

    @Kalumbatsch

    7 жыл бұрын

    Nope, that doesn't really make much sense.

  • @katiekat4457

    @katiekat4457

    6 жыл бұрын

    And her head shook up in down in a yes signal the whole time he talked so no doubt she agrees with everything he is saying

  • @GlassDeviant
    @GlassDeviant4 жыл бұрын

    1:15:10 "We have models of black holes which we can understand by ordinary quantum mechanical means." ... "ordinary" quantum mechanical means. :)

  • @thomasvieth578
    @thomasvieth5784 жыл бұрын

    For reasons of aesthetics I cannot escape thinking of “Gravity’s Rainbow”, it having a certain attraction for me

  • @robertyoung1777
    @robertyoung177710 ай бұрын

    This might have been better if it had started out with each guest having been given a set amount of time to talk. The panel could then have had a conversation with the moderator taking an active role in allowing each panel member relatively equal time to talk.

  • @carnsoaks1
    @carnsoaks17 жыл бұрын

    David, every time, DR, whether it be String or GR, you got to pontificate. Your slow paced syncopation, your condescension. Be it a group, or a presenter (see N.A-H in Germany of all places) Sure, you have the only N.P. of any living American Theoretical Particle Physicist BUT CANNOT YOU LEAVE SOMEONE... LET SOMEONE HAVE THE... CANNOT THE LAST WORD BE LEFT TO ANOTHER SOMETIME. CANNOT YOU NOT HIJACK A PRESENTATION, so it goes so far off topic that, people need to meet in private to talk through any idea you do not proscribe to???.... When you are there, nothing new gets discussed, because Asymptotic Freedom was where learning ended.

  • @henriknielsen1662

    @henriknielsen1662

    5 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely right, David Gross is self-important and condescending and has nothing new to say. He is his surname.

  • @dougg1075

    @dougg1075

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not that big a deal

  • @hyf-sd1yc

    @hyf-sd1yc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Steven Weinberg is still alive, in fact more prestigious than Gross. And Glashow. Also Wilczek, who won it together with Gross. So he is definitely not the only one. Sorry about being picky.

  • @jamesconner8275
    @jamesconner82757 жыл бұрын

    Too bad David Gross was allowed to sidetrack the program for so long.

  • @glennmurphy9542

    @glennmurphy9542

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think he said A lot between the lines also he knows more than he's. ( aloud ) to talk about

  • @alexcastro7339

    @alexcastro7339

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@glennmurphy9542 Allowed???

  • @ccarson

    @ccarson

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was engrossing.

  • @glutinousmaximus
    @glutinousmaximus4 жыл бұрын

    Scientifically, we are perhaps in the best of times. In 3 or 4 hundred years, we have successively uncovered mystery after mystery about the universe around us. We have encountered many surprises and wondrous discoveries along the way. We have stubborn challenges ahead and gravity is perhaps the greatest. A great post - Many Thanks!

  • @kokomanation
    @kokomanation7 жыл бұрын

    Maybe thermodynamics could be a key ingredient we should add to help us figure out how spacetime works how it interacts with massive objects and gets warped

  • @Erintel
    @Erintel7 жыл бұрын

    Albert Asimov dropped a bowling ball on a rubber pool table. E = MC Hammer, Private Eye, smashed it into atoms. Father Time, arriving before he left, placed his bets: "Quarks in the corners, waves in the side, charge in the middle and no divide."

  • @onetwo3603
    @onetwo36036 жыл бұрын

    one thing has remained constant with humanities pretence,it has a handle on the big questions, time always shows us to be wrong by various orders of magnitude

  • @MrRickkramer
    @MrRickkramer7 жыл бұрын

    Check out Erik Verlinde, he is a Dutch scientist working from Amsterdam University. His theories hold a lot of promise in my opinion.

  • @user-jh3rx3ej7h

    @user-jh3rx3ej7h

    7 жыл бұрын

    No, they don't. Unless you at least understand the math and physics involved in his paper, which takes years of studying and training, then you don't understand them. Several papers that are currently part of the literature all published in the past few months have shown explicitly how Verlinde's theory deviates from known measurements of radial acceleration of galaxies and how a dark matter particle fits the data better. His theory suffers from many flaws. Just because it sounds new and exciting does not mean it is good physics. It is most likely wrong.

  • @taunteratwill1787

    @taunteratwill1787

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@user-jh3rx3ej7h I believe you don't know your flaws, your most likely wrong as a human being. MrRickkramer is right Erik Verlinde is way brighter than this pretentious @C R fuckup!

  • @user-jh3rx3ej7h

    @user-jh3rx3ej7h

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@taunteratwill1787 His theory on entropic gravity is not supported or taken seriously by almost anybody in the quantum gravity or cosmology community for the reasons I listed above. A dark matter particle fits the data much better and his theory fails to reproduce dark matter observations. Theoretical physics papers are almost 99% wrong and maybe 1% correct. It doesn't mean that his paper has no value. You are clearly too emotionally-driven and unable to separate logic and coherent physics ideas from what you want to be true.

  • @taunteratwill1787

    @taunteratwill1787

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@user-jh3rx3ej7h Your theory is better than mine? Theory =Theory. Stop trying to make it more than it is. Ideas based upon other ideas! And don't pretend to be a shrink, you failed miserably on other convictions before. And now fuck off you're pretentious and boring.

  • @Mac2point1
    @Mac2point14 жыл бұрын

    I watched it all. Didn't understand any if it, but got through it.

  • @feuxdinoit_
    @feuxdinoit_7 жыл бұрын

    I think we should start romanticizing mathematics more lol

  • @metameta1427

    @metameta1427

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mathematics is beauty. It’s art. It’s everything.

  • @marvinmauldin4361

    @marvinmauldin4361

    3 жыл бұрын

    E=m(heart)² ?

  • @moonlight.3x3
    @moonlight.3x36 жыл бұрын

    closed captioning please!

  • @PazLeBon
    @PazLeBon7 жыл бұрын

    i often picture space like liquid so gravity seems like a sort of displacement

  • @madeincda

    @madeincda

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes I like this idea too. I imagine an infinitely large pool where we only exist at the surface. Not above or below but right within the surface. Where everything perceivable in our realm exists. Similar to existing in a 2D world. The extra dimension in SUSY is everything around the surface. So the particles that we can't see exist below and above the surface in they're own dimension. Therefor we only see them when they pass through our surface dimension to the opposite side. So when you look at a tiny bubble sitting on the surface of any liquid that is a simile for our universe in a sense...

  • @08wolfeyes
    @08wolfeyes5 жыл бұрын

    When it comes to space, can we say that space its self is, in fact, dark energy and dark matter? Might it also be possible the outside what we call our universe or beyond what we can see, might there be an attractor of some kind?

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    There must be something about field to allow light to travel for apparently nothing travelling at the speed of light I find that really interesting

  • @gregsharp8420
    @gregsharp84207 жыл бұрын

    Wonder if they could tell me if the vacuum energy, that is causing the Doppler effect on light as space expands is absorbing this missing energy from the light at its source compared to the slightly less energetic light we see?

  • @BenneBG
    @BenneBG7 жыл бұрын

    Gravity is that film with Clooney and Bullock

  • @alexcastro7339
    @alexcastro73393 жыл бұрын

    Who else was waiting for the person all the way on the left side to speak????.....lol

  • @roberthodgins6584

    @roberthodgins6584

    3 жыл бұрын

    Old Dave isn’t having none of it! Lol

  • @MirekHeikkila
    @MirekHeikkila7 жыл бұрын

    1:02:30 NoooOoO whyyyy, i was interested and i live for drama(lol jk but still!)! But really i want to hear them 'argue' :/... that's part of scientific dialogue :D

  • @zackfair7913

    @zackfair7913

    5 жыл бұрын

    It must of been the skulls

  • @HighestRank

    @HighestRank

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh god, my thought experiment’s ingredients are going to chain react!

  • @davidevans2810
    @davidevans28104 жыл бұрын

    It is simple: Gravity is the effect created when mass lenses spacetime. It isn't a "warp", but a lensing.

  • @rickquest6385

    @rickquest6385

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree the 'rubber sheet' theory is not correct but what do you mean by 'lensing?'

  • @jeremybonanno4583
    @jeremybonanno45834 жыл бұрын

    What if we're shrinking? No expansion

  • @GranulatedStuff
    @GranulatedStuff6 жыл бұрын

    I love Rachel Rosen for a whole bunch of reasons !

  • @SnaFubar_24

    @SnaFubar_24

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wish she had been allowed to expand on her ideas more. David Gross was an ass throughout the discussion.

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    Same goes for Sagaterian A*

  • @ramaraksha01
    @ramaraksha012 жыл бұрын

    25 min into the video and I think Ms Rosen has yet to speak!

  • @sywaddr11
    @sywaddr116 жыл бұрын

    How can you differ the wave is not comets kissing stars or moon?

  • @MrTommy4000
    @MrTommy40006 жыл бұрын

    why aren't the asteroid belt or the kuiper belt forming planets or joining with the help of gravity ?

  • @malikapollard3618
    @malikapollard36182 жыл бұрын

    This one guy likes the sound of his voice a little more than the others.

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    Gravity and light live there lol

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    It does travel quick even with a aaa battery ?

  • @MikeSmith-cl4ix
    @MikeSmith-cl4ix3 жыл бұрын

    Gravity is a mathematical concept used to explain why masses are attracted to each other. It's not an actual Force it's in effect caused by the ability of mass to absorb, convert and reflect electromagnetic radiation. As We know, EM radiation can have an accelerating effect on matter (A push rather than a pull) and is everywhere present throughout the universe. So when a mass is near another Mass they both have a dampening effect on each other. That's what makes sense to me.

  • @Trp44
    @Trp442 жыл бұрын

    I do think I would repeat my name more than Einstein’s if I were on a panel. Especially if I spoke from the heart.

  • @jackieow6692
    @jackieow66922 жыл бұрын

    1) If photons have no mass, why do they bend in their trajectory as they go past a large mass like the sun, for instance the precessional change of Mercury's orbit. So on Earth we see Mercury appearing around the horizon of the sun artificially sooner than it should? If there is no mass there, what is the gravitational force grabbing? (2) If I take my rocket into a black hole and land on a singularity, suppose I get out a flashlight and put the base of the flashlight on the singularity. I point the flashlight toward the event horizon at straight up = north or 12 o'clock, and I turn it on. The photons can't escape because there is too much gravity. That means they have to slow down. But photons can't go slower than the speed of light because the speed of light is constant. So what happens to the photons between the singularity and the event horizon if I try to point my flashlight away from the singularity? (3) What is going on inside an electron with its internal structure such that something spins one direction to generate in the outside world what we label as "negative charge" but something spins the other way to cause what we describe as "positive charge" if it were a positron? Ditto for positive charge in protons and negative charge in antiprotons. (4) If a neutron is inside a nucleus, it has a half life of billions of years. But if the neutron is by itself in free space, it has a half-life of about 400 seconds. (a) Why stable inside a nucleus, even for tiny deuterium or tritium, but unstable outside a nucleus? The neutron decays into a proton plus an electron plus an anti-matter neutrino. (b) How can an anti-matter neutrino exist inside an ordinary matter neutron back when the neutron existed as a neutron? Or if it was there in another form as a proto-antimatter neutrino, what form was it in? (5) If high energy gamma rays collide, they can condense into matter. Can all forms of matter form in this way, for instance how about neutrinos or Higgs Bosons-- do they form from Big Bang level collisions of gamma rays? (6) Where can I park my spaceship so that if I look in one direction I will see a panorama of billions of stars and galaxies, but if I turn around 180 degrees there is nothing to see because the universe hasn't expanded there yet? There are places the universe hasn't expanded to yet, so there have to be vast numbers of places (or a large outer surface) where such sights could be seen. Or, to mix questions, could it be the edge of the universe is where it goes down the drain to the center of black holes which is why you can't see anything there? (7) If time happens more slowly at the center of the earth, how can there be a blue shift of light at the center of the earth? With a blue shift, the electromagnetic waves happen with greater frequency which means the waves are moving [perpendicular to the direction of propagation] more quickly. The tick-tock of light's electromagnetic pulsations is happening more quickly with the higher energy of blue light. If more gravity means blue shift and faster pulsations, then denser gravity means time's events happen more quickly, not more slowly. (8) For the paradox of a stationary twin and a twin in a rocket at 99% the speed of light. from the point of reference of the twin in a rocket the twin in a rocket is stationary and the other twin is, in comparison, moving away at nearly the speed of light. So why does the one age and the other not? It must be that the one that stays young stays young because it is having kinetic energy added to its system. Or perhaps moving relative to a HIggs field slows down time. Or maybe something else. How would kinetic energy slow down time, or how would a moving Higgs field slow down time? If time slows down at the center of the earth, how is it that more gravitational force slows down time? Is there an interactional commonality among kinetic energy, Higgs field, and gravity? (9) A ray of light is not travelling in a straight line, because it is always influenced to some extent by gravity from some mass somewhere in the universe. Particles are made from condensed gamma rays, and so do not have exact stable surfaces but rather only the turmoil of thrashing electromagnetic fields. The surface of the purest cystal is actually at the micro-micro level not a plane but rather an approximate surface of condensed energy pulsations or string pulsations, and the edge of a crystal is not a straight line but rather only a wiggling approximate line. Simple integers are absolutes, while in nature there are no absolute straight lines or true planes or absolute flat surfaces. Since integers have absolute magnitudes aka defined boundaries but light and matter do not, why should we think numbers are accurate at the ultimate micro-micro level for describing physical phenomena? (10) If an entire galaxy were made out of antimatter, how would be know from this far away that it wasn't made of ordinary matter? (11) If you look at an electromagnetic wave, when the electric field is maximum going down the magnetic field is maximum going to the right. If you keep the electric wave going down, is there any way to flip the magnetic 180 degrees to the left, e.g. with an antimatter domain or supersymmetry (or something other than going backwards in time)? Why does the magnetic go to the right instead of the left when the electric goes down? Does it have anything to do with why there is more matter than antimatter, like for instance the handedness of electromagnetic waves as we know them destabilizes (tears apart) antimatter handedness more easily than ordinary matter handedness? Does the electric drive the magnetic or does the magnetic drive the electric? Or are they both dependent on another third-factor determinant driving factor? (12) If light as in electromagnetic radiation can't escape from a black hole, how can Hawking radiation escape, since all it is is infrared electromagnetic radiation?

  • @wilhelmvonpost
    @wilhelmvonpost7 жыл бұрын

    very disappointing discussion.. I thought it would be about new theories and speculation as said in the beginning, but ended up mostly going over einstein again and again..

  • @LuisAldamiz

    @LuisAldamiz

    5 жыл бұрын

    What's in the box? Schrödinger's quantum physicist in a superposition of states right and wrong, but it is absolutely certain that he/she is thinking inside the box.

  • @dckfg01

    @dckfg01

    5 жыл бұрын

    This also means we have not exceeded Einstein yet.

  • @zackfair7913

    @zackfair7913

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well because Einstein is right all the way... and GR is a complete theory. Quantum mechanic is good too but is dramatically incomplete, like they explain very well in this talk and as Einstein said himself, and it is still the case today, in fact quantum mechanic is so incomplete, you ' re blind and walking on a highway, unless you use Einstein theory which in a sense might be a way to hear the quantum phenomena you are probing, since you have no other way to probe it, or if I use my analogy again, to hear any cars rushing at you in the highway until you figure out what is going on. Lot of work still need to be done. We need Einstein again but the quantum version of him. Queinstein, where are you?

  • @neilanderson891

    @neilanderson891

    4 жыл бұрын

    @The Real Slim Brady (re: your comment Aug-2019) --> In "what way" did "who" fail to factor-in the speed of light? You seem to be saying that "gravity" is always attractive, therefore any acceleration in the expansion of the Universe must be due solely to the mysterious "dark energy" which must be larger than "what-has-been-estimated" because dark-energy must overcome the deceleration of the cosmos due to gravity. Perhaps what you mean is that when astronomers say "Galaxy-X is 5 million light-years away", that must be incorrect, because Galaxy-X has had 5 million years to move even further away, much further ... therefore, it is more accurate to say that "5 million years ago, Galaxy-X was 5 million light-years away" and then estimate how far away it must be today.

  • @HighestRank

    @HighestRank

    4 жыл бұрын

    Neil Anderson a far-away light source was not moving at a constant rate 5 mil years ago- nor will it continue moving at a constant rate, so all extrapolation of its present, past, or future locations based upon any instantaneous information at best would only be conjectural.

  • @thelastkinddirectory
    @thelastkinddirectory7 жыл бұрын

    Gravity is like gravy on your sunday roast. The watery parts do not stick but gently run across the surface of your plate (fabric of space) and your black holes are like Tobby's Yorkshire puddings that get filled up with anything. When gravity or someone else fills your black hole it eventually explodes and bang! A new universe is born...As simple as that. Next question please...

  • @garymulsp
    @garymulsp7 жыл бұрын

    The chair ruined this

  • @pronounjow

    @pronounjow

    7 жыл бұрын

    The moderator? He almost wasn't part of the panel. Lol

  • @garymulsp

    @garymulsp

    7 жыл бұрын

    He's meant to make sure one person doesnt dominate the discussion

  • @taunteratwill1787

    @taunteratwill1787

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes the chairs were a bit too much of the 60's!

  • @Phoenixash-delfuego

    @Phoenixash-delfuego

    4 жыл бұрын

    If the chairs had holes in them everything could be aired out and we could get right to the bottom of everything.

  • @thermotronica
    @thermotronica7 жыл бұрын

    Cool scarf

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    Looking at the diversity of life on Earth is easy to do it

  • @grahammatthews3798
    @grahammatthews3798 Жыл бұрын

    *Senhor Ferreira* gives the best description of gravity yet. IMHO the hint that needs to be amplified lies in the words "If you *throw* something". Then will the layman understand that everything in the Universe has been moving since the Big Bang and gravity (an improper acceleration) simply causes it to take a minor detour

  • @mamavswild
    @mamavswild3 жыл бұрын

    Gravity may not be as weak as it seems; many theoretical physicists including Nima Arkani-Hamed think that we are looking at gravity all wrong ...space/time should be space/time/gravity...that they are all manifestations of the same thing.

  • @mikkel715

    @mikkel715

    Жыл бұрын

    To be living at a Brane on a Hypersphere is not that bad..

  • @IconProduction01
    @IconProduction014 жыл бұрын

    Never get into an argument with that old man in the center.... He loves to hear himself talk, he'll talk over you at every chance, he completely believes he's smarter than you and everyone else, and he's one of those people who will not stop until he feels like he's won. I'm sure he's a great time at parties.....

  • @timewalker6654

    @timewalker6654

    3 жыл бұрын

    he is the smartest in the room, he is a Nobel laureate.

  • @IconProduction01

    @IconProduction01

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@timewalker6654 Well cool then? Poor guy, knows he's the smartest in most rooms, yet feels the need to flex it fully on other people to puff himself up.. Sad, now I know he has 1 friend (his mother) and he's still a virgin to this day, so I hope it was worth it bruh lol.

  • @eshoo8000

    @eshoo8000

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seek help

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    Something about a cap and inductor in parallel with a touch of Dc, something very intrinsic about it 🤦‍♂️

  • @evrardmusic
    @evrardmusic Жыл бұрын

    Didn’t Dirac confirm a relationship between GR and quantum mechanics?

  • @emasolie4135
    @emasolie41353 жыл бұрын

    Someone didn't profile guests beforehand. A cat was set among the pigeons, (an extrovert among the introverted INTP's). Gross needs to get his own show where his ego can run free.

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz5 жыл бұрын

    Schrödinger had a box and inside there was a quantum physicist bragging about how he or she would put gravity inside the neat box of quantum mechanics. It is uncertain if Schrödinger's physicist-in-the-box is right or wrong or in a superposition of both states but what is quite clear is that he or she (gender is also uncertain) is thinking inside the box.

  • @Dadecorban
    @Dadecorban4 жыл бұрын

    I prefer when they argue. I hate that this always gets stopped. Ahahahaha...someone asked about Alcubierre Warp Drive. Did you see those expressions....ahahaha.

  • @soubhikmukherjee6871
    @soubhikmukherjee68712 жыл бұрын

    Gravity is love.

  • @jforkum3948
    @jforkum39482 жыл бұрын

    The effect of matter in the universe, is not unlike that of a marble in a fish tank. The volume of the marble increases the water level in the tank just as the volume of a particle increases the space in the universe. Another way to perceive this concept is as follows. Space and matter are flip sides of the same coin. without matter, space would not exist. The pressure the marble is under as it travels deeper into the water; is comparable to the gravity effect we feel in our relative position inside the space that is being created by the matter around us. At the atomic level, the space that a particle creates, has a very defined end to that space as the particle has a constant density. As two particles' spaces become entangled, the two particles combine to create a larger volume of space together that locks the two particles inside that space while any photon wave energy that enters that space becomes trapped as an electron. The edges of the space these two particles create is less defined as the edges a single particle will create as the two particles in their created space also have each their own density that is varied in the space the two particles create. This effect is known as the "strong nuclear force". As more particles become entangled together in the space created and common to these particles, the effect of the strong nuclear force begins to weaken. On the scale of large planetary matter collected and common to the space created by that matter, we feel that same effect as gravity.

  • @VinayakVidhyasagar
    @VinayakVidhyasagar7 жыл бұрын

    The old man has a crush on maria,gravity may be matter itself,a special type

  • @Sartorri4666
    @Sartorri46662 жыл бұрын

    Yeah!?

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    1-1=o fact, highly likely the outside rotating bit gets spun out its not in atom form at that time

  • @jbclarricoats5941
    @jbclarricoats59415 жыл бұрын

    The absence of resistance

  • @espaciohexadimencional6798
    @espaciohexadimencional67984 жыл бұрын

    I hope this numbers might be helpfull some way: if you add the 8 plaets in the disk you get 77.86M/S SQ. and if you add the suns gravity you get 351.86M/S SQ./3.1416 = 112.00025 112.00025/300000K/S(LS) = 2678.5654/89.28 = 30.001852. 89.28 is the result of 351.86/31416(10000 times 3.1416) = 89.28551. 149.6 millions of km. for suns light to reach us times 210 = 31416. The universe works in three faces: HIGH= 10920 Hz. MEDLE= 10416 Hz, LOW= 10080 This faces could grow or get smaller as wished. if you add the three faces they add 31416. 10920/3141600 = 287.6923/144(serie PHI) = 1.9978631. 10416/3141600 = 301.6129/3.1416 =96.006143/17126.594(the 118 places of the periodic table all added) = 178.39936/89.28 = 1.9982007. 10080/3141600 = 311.66666/77.86 = 4.002911. 22 years is a compleate SUNS CICLE and this number does good numbers: 22/10920 = 496.36363/3.1416 = 157.99708/17126.594 = 108.39816/1.618 = 66.995154. 42 are the petals of THE FLOWER OF LIFE same figure apears from DNA. 42/10920 = 260/300000 = 1153.8461/3.1416 = 367.27976/1.618(GOLDEN NUMBER) = 226.99614/17126.594 = 75.448833/3.1416 = 24.01605. WHY NOT see the solar system as a cell of our universe? where 351.86 is the GRAVITY of our solar sistem. sos sos sos sos¡?

  • @dolfi173
    @dolfi1732 жыл бұрын

    según la física clásica una partícula se define por sus componentes temporales las que al interactuar con los diversos campos lo hace usando usando una simetría que puede dar efectos atractivos o repulsivos ,es decir que estos ' genios no comprenden que la cuantización eléctrica y la gravitatoria se parecen pero la diferencia de fuerza depende de la forma de los elementos básicos de un eje espacial dividido

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    Because light wavelength goes red and we say space is expanding what if that’s not correct

  • @brainfleming8756
    @brainfleming87564 жыл бұрын

    I am not a scientist, physicist, etc., but I thought it had been established long ago that gravity was the warping of space time.

  • @frontech3271
    @frontech32712 жыл бұрын

    Is Space "stretching" to expand, or is more Space appearing from some - what?

  • @fullyawakened
    @fullyawakened7 жыл бұрын

    At the very end during audience question he says that the Casimir effect is wrong... I wish that were more clarified. The Casimir effect certainly is not wrong and he knows that so I can't think of what he meant to convey there.

  • @espaciohexadimencional6798

    @espaciohexadimencional6798

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think is right whene there is no matter inside(say planets) but if there is matter(planets) the pressure in between is not the same; that is why the cubes in space got togather, that is not gravity atraction. big mistake for theme.

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    I see nobody mentioned what if there was a bigger mass attracting these Galaxy’s in our Universe, current physics

  • @gameart6505
    @gameart65057 жыл бұрын

    Szabolcs Marka speaks like one of Andy Kaufman characters

  • @davidknapp5224
    @davidknapp52243 жыл бұрын

    Who wants to know HOW mass curves space? The lady in the middle is on the right track, explain it quantum mechanically as an universal ocean of sticky little quantum particals (gravitons) that attaches itself to itself and every other partial adding up quickly with mass bending space which is swimming with gravitons.

  • @davidinfante6348
    @davidinfante63484 жыл бұрын

    Dark matter is not a particle it's a field that has different dimensions across space depending on how regular matter is Clump together

  • @dantayler8911
    @dantayler89112 жыл бұрын

    Rachel dressed with a scarf with skull 💀 print…..🙄. Hmmm 🤔 classy😂😅🤣

  • @KenzieLaMar
    @KenzieLaMar7 жыл бұрын

    Love this talk. I wish the moderator could have allowed the whole panel to contribute more equally. But even with 2 people dominating the talk it was still fascinating and wonderful.

  • @gozderdogan

    @gozderdogan

    7 жыл бұрын

    Kenzie LaMar you are handsome.

  • @neilanderson891
    @neilanderson8914 жыл бұрын

    At 6:53, Pedro Ferreira says that gravity is an instantaneous "action at a distance" ... I think Mr Ferreira misspoke ... I'm no expert, but I think that, for example, the effect of our Sun's gravity is delayed by about 8 minutes, the same amount of time it takes the Sun's radiation (all electro-magnetic waves) to reach the earth.

  • @espaciohexadimencional6798

    @espaciohexadimencional6798

    4 жыл бұрын

    a bit faster.

  • @neilanderson891

    @neilanderson891

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Demian_R Right you are, of course it does, but that means you agree with me. And as soon as energy exists, it too has gravity.

  • @neilanderson891

    @neilanderson891

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Demian_R OK, you win. I give up.

  • @subtle0savage
    @subtle0savage7 жыл бұрын

    Can gravity escape black holes? If concentrated mass passes a threshold where it begins to warp space/time in on itself, and given that gravity of mass is a bending of space-time, then it follows that in such a model the ever tightening loop of warping space-time in on itself would create an infinity paradox. Which, by the by, conflicts with the premise that light acts as a universal speed limit. In an infinitely closing loop, speed of light would rapidly be passed.

  • @nietzscheanperspective6686

    @nietzscheanperspective6686

    7 жыл бұрын

    subtle0savage That is very interesting.

  • @PapaKakaes

    @PapaKakaes

    6 жыл бұрын

    subtle0savage it's called hawking radiation

  • @SimonSozzi7258
    @SimonSozzi72583 жыл бұрын

    Gravity is the bending and slowing of spacetime by particles that have mass and can't/don't travel at the speed of light.

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    Gob smacked with the maths but gravity must be the amount of atoms collected together. Like the difference between intrinsic nature of capacitance and inductance

  • @brabantstad384
    @brabantstad3847 жыл бұрын

    you are many mutch my friendsly

  • @sywaddr11
    @sywaddr116 жыл бұрын

    Can we think gravity as entangle behind shells?

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    It’s not beyond any consept that things were travling in that direction

  • @jennanelson5453
    @jennanelson54534 жыл бұрын

    I believe dark energy is a positive pressure exerted by the vacuum energy of space-time, and that what we are calling dark matter is merely the effects of dark energy on regular matter. A positive pressure exerted by space-time's vacuum energy predicts; -the accelerating universe -the expanding universe -we should measure there to be more mass than we can see matter being accountable for -matter in the center of a galaxy / cluster should have added relativistic mass, increasing its gravitational attraction, as well as its escape velocity -matter in the outer regions of a galaxy / cluster should be moving faster than we predict, sometimes faster than our predicted maximum orbital speed without flying out of orbit.

  • @charlesoconnor9837
    @charlesoconnor9837 Жыл бұрын

    Is that why we’re on our on has this happened many times

  • @smashu2
    @smashu27 жыл бұрын

    Can a field produce no particle !? can you have a dark field with no particle !?

  • @chinesewitholiver
    @chinesewitholiver4 жыл бұрын

    I love World Science Festival! The content of this video is superb! But the form is bad. Because it's a new concept. Please change the settings of this video, and don't allow comments, which are partially correct, but only lead us away from the target.

  • @narrator69
    @narrator697 жыл бұрын

    Could anti-gravity by created by learning to control the higgs field?

  • @zackfair7913

    @zackfair7913

    5 жыл бұрын

    this field or any other field are "our universe black hole event horizon" and this "thing" is infinitely far away from you, nothing from outside or from inside of the black hole can reach its event horizon, when you are inside you can only fall toward the singularity, (but in fact you are never inside) and when you are outside you can only spaghettify yourself on the surface of the black hole like a pancake getting ever so tin and scrambled , but you never penetrate it, from any outside observer point of view. from your point of view you may believe you are falling into the black hole, but you don't, space is an illusion. youa re only getting more and mor scrambled over the black hole surface, or firewall I think they call it but it have many different name , depending on the theory you are using to describe what is happening. fields are not physically characterized, they are like a ghost if you will, a ghost that no "physical" thing can possibly reach, and all of this, not even considering that space is accelerating at an exponentially increasing rate, so.... good luck. Field are in fact the only real thing that exist, nothing else but field and their vibration. and sometime one vibrating field share is energy with another field. so everything else you can think of are nothing else but illusions emerging from these vibrating fields. and by illusion I mean space , time , particles, matter, fundamental force of nature, the universe.... but these fields have also some "true" property, like being scale invariant (this is why symmetry or gravity and other force of nature, causality(or time) are emerging), among other , they truly have. this is a work in progress. But in other words, when you look at them (you just cant) but what I mean is wen you imagine the fields, they would be like a ghost for you , and from the fields perspective, you are also a ghost.... or a rainbow like ghost structure. hope this may help some people understand fields...

  • @zackfair7913

    @zackfair7913

    5 жыл бұрын

    oh yeah in fact even the fields aren't real, the only real thing at the very bottom of existence, the fundamental structure, as they call it, is information. quantum bits. nothing else is real.

  • @PatrickLHolley
    @PatrickLHolley2 жыл бұрын

    Clearly "gravity" is correlated with mass, but my question is this: Is it an open possibility that mass is not the source of gravity? And is it possible that gravity is generated by immaterial realities instead, even though you always have a correlation with fluctuations in space when mass is present?

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