Collision 2022 - Sparg0 (Cloud) vs LeoN (Bowser) - Top 32 - Winners

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  • @tomasbedoya2901
    @tomasbedoya29012 жыл бұрын

    LeoN was literally pitted against the Smash Ultimate Summit first and second places and both sets were phenomenal. The fact that this man hasn't gone to a smash summit yet is a disgrace

  • @cibrinyark339

    @cibrinyark339

    2 жыл бұрын

    Until people learn the bowser match up then it'll be boring

  • @calebw8189

    @calebw8189

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cibrinyark339 shut up

  • @inarencommander4663

    @inarencommander4663

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cibrinyark339 He's been playing Bowser since the beginning and boxing it out against top 10 players using top tiers...

  • @Clarkbardoone

    @Clarkbardoone

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cibrinyark339 people already know it, not a very complicated character, Leon is just a good player and bowser is just a good character.

  • @greedo194

    @greedo194

    2 жыл бұрын

    He should have been at summit 3 after jumping out a plane but didn't have the resources for the spirit bomb

  • @bluetannery1527
    @bluetannery15272 жыл бұрын

    honestly taking sparg0 to last stock game 5 in any situation is an achievement, nevermind doing it with bowser

  • @rudeshrewd3804

    @rudeshrewd3804

    2 жыл бұрын

    Major fucking facts ! It’s practically a win in my eyes

  • @DemonEyeHelix

    @DemonEyeHelix

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bowser is a crazy good character, especially against people who aren't experienced in the matchup.

  • @Clarkbardoone

    @Clarkbardoone

    2 жыл бұрын

    Especially against aegis who dumpster him

  • @greedo194

    @greedo194

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Clarkbardoone mu is actually more doable than most top tiers, he can contest their range quite well

  • @Clarkbardoone

    @Clarkbardoone

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@greedo194 yeah but disadvantage is miserable vs them, I guess my language was too harsh it’s only like -1 at most. Bowser can beat them in neutral and has a really good advantage vs them considering they are aegis.

  • @ClarenceSampang
    @ClarenceSampang2 жыл бұрын

    Leon's hand is shaking 7:18 Goes to show that even GOAT players need to fight off the nerves.

  • @eyashamdan4371
    @eyashamdan43712 жыл бұрын

    5:25 Sparg0 pushed LeoN’s hurtbox into the side b to shield poke him. That has to be one of the most creative plays I have ever seen.

  • @mmyd2405

    @mmyd2405

    2 жыл бұрын

    He didn't

  • @FlorentChardevel

    @FlorentChardevel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Didn't he do that to get a footstool setup?

  • @trombonegamer14

    @trombonegamer14

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's like a week one aegis thing bro lmao

  • @emnav4908

    @emnav4908

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FlorentChardevel nah, he also did that against Leo couple of times

  • @ElChicoBush

    @ElChicoBush

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually it's pretty common to see

  • @LexFloyd
    @LexFloyd2 жыл бұрын

    5:23 Did he actually PUSH him into the blazing end?!

  • @Millyviews

    @Millyviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    Loved that

  • @malachistone88
    @malachistone882 жыл бұрын

    8:41 command grad 🤔

  • @jjjooorrrjjjooorrr

    @jjjooorrrjjjooorrr

    2 жыл бұрын

    I saw that too, I was like that’s some bull lol

  • @Ulikander4001

    @Ulikander4001

    2 жыл бұрын

    the first grab connected but pyra interrupted it with a move and got throw invulnerability since the grab did connect, that's why the second command grab missed.

  • @greedo194
    @greedo1942 жыл бұрын

    Damn LeoN almost got it against the aegis

  • @flavorflov6519

    @flavorflov6519

    2 жыл бұрын

    He did. Just not against the buster blader

  • @DemonEyeHelix

    @DemonEyeHelix

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@flavorflov6519 Can we actually get Buster Blader in smash? Please?

  • @flavorflov6519

    @flavorflov6519

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DemonEyeHelix Yes! Finally, we would have a true counter to Bowser & Ridley.

  • @greedo194

    @greedo194

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@flavorflov6519 there's plenty of counters to bowser and ridley

  • @flavorflov6519

    @flavorflov6519

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@greedo194 It’s a Yu-Gi-Oh reference.

  • @TriforceZard
    @TriforceZard2 жыл бұрын

    It’s crazy how well Sparg0 can recover with these characters

  • @themidgarbadass2517

    @themidgarbadass2517

    2 жыл бұрын

    You’re right pressing jump and up b is insanely difficult

  • @twisttempo

    @twisttempo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themidgarbadass2517 you clearly are ass at the game 😂😂😂

  • @Clarkbardoone

    @Clarkbardoone

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themidgarbadass2517 it’s a lot harder when there is a massive dragon turtle trying to stop you

  • @themidgarbadass2517

    @themidgarbadass2517

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Clarkbardoone ok and?

  • @Clarkbardoone

    @Clarkbardoone

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themidgarbadass2517 and it’s a lot harder? wdym and?

  • @charlesmcintyre6059
    @charlesmcintyre60592 жыл бұрын

    10:19 Leon reactively timing his normal getup perfectly to avoid the flame nova hurtboxes and get in to shield

  • @supercarl7104
    @supercarl71042 жыл бұрын

    Leon is insanely good, his patience and spacing is amazing

  • @user-io9tp8ds4p
    @user-io9tp8ds4p2 жыл бұрын

    こういう相手側が阻止しやすくて破壊してくるキャラに勝てるのが凄い

  • @mxl8755

    @mxl8755

    2 жыл бұрын

    同意した。すべてのキャラクターが実行可能 。

  • @michaelnelson8618
    @michaelnelson86182 жыл бұрын

    leon is a fucking legend. thanks for repping the heavies and keeping this filthy game honorable to at least some degree!!

  • @dnegel9546

    @dnegel9546

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah both of those match ups are absolutely insane for any heavy specially bowser. Leon is a monster.

  • @ThatSneakman

    @ThatSneakman

    2 жыл бұрын

    >Heavies >Honourable Pick one

  • @dnegel9546

    @dnegel9546

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatSneakman do you even smash bro

  • @343Films

    @343Films

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dnegel9546 Bowser is in the top 20% fastest characters in the game *on top of* being the heaviest. He has arguably the best command grab in the game (top 3 minimum) that does over 20% and can kill most of the roster at 120% from anywhere on stage. He has one of, if not the best up-b out of shield that also does over 20% and can kill at 150%. His neutral-b is insanely good against most characters and safely does 35+% all the time, even at top level play. His ledge trapping is some of the absolute best in the game, and his own recovery is above average, if not really good too boot. His 'tough guy' passive ability entirely nullifies rapid jabs and many other character specific moves, and it makes his smash attacks (especially up-smash and down-smash) wayyyy better than they have any right to be. His forward-air is way too fast for how insanely far ranged it is, and his back-air kills most of the roster at 70% despite being faster than roughly half the back-airs in the game. He doesn't have kill throws on the level of Ness or Lucas, but his back and forward throw both kill drastically earlier than at least 80% of the cast. Literally the *only* thing bowser doesn't have going for him is his disadvantage state. That's literally it. But even then, down-air is incredibly useful in many match-ups, and even when it isn't, a player who slips up _at all_ in the juggle sequence will take a guaranteed 20+% and lose advantage. Bowser is _anything but honest._ A novice player who spends 15 hours to gain competency with Bowser will *destroy* even above average players, even if it's just through abusing up-b out of shield, side-b, and stray aerial hits for the kill. Bowser is the epitome of dishonest.

  • @dinnerlord65

    @dinnerlord65

    5 ай бұрын

    @@343Filmsthat means his optimal playstyle is to power though moves and punish mistakes, at least its not running away, hiding behind a wall, or retreating to the sky like what most of the meta is right now. That’s what makes him honorable

  • @rubberwoody
    @rubberwoody2 жыл бұрын

    bowser definitely has tough guy in the air

  • @calebw8189
    @calebw81892 жыл бұрын

    Leon goes from losing to a random DDD to forcing a top 2 player off of Pyra/Mythra. I'm bummed he keeps getting out so quickly.

  • @bobert555555
    @bobert5555552 жыл бұрын

    I will never understand why Aegis was made so disgustingly overpowered. Smash really said “let’s let people have both Sonic and a buffed up Ike with boobs in one character….fuck it throw in better witch time just for the lolz” and the community just ate it up without complaints.

  • @TyphonCH

    @TyphonCH

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mythra is busted. Pyra is too easy to use for the reward. Seriously that down air hit box? JFC. People say Bowser is the no skill character but Aegis has non-committal attacks with 0 end lag and massive hitboxes. It's a joke compared to vanilla characters

  • @BikiniSSBU
    @BikiniSSBU2 жыл бұрын

    Someone tell SparG0D that those characters are not supposed to recover

  • @Notspideybutspidey
    @Notspideybutspidey2 жыл бұрын

    SpaceJamSparg0 is kind of a goated name

  • @cideofsacae
    @cideofsacae2 жыл бұрын

    the fact that spargo switched to a significantly worse matchup and won just shows that Cloud is his soul main

  • @Logan17258
    @Logan172582 жыл бұрын

    I remember watching Leon's MU chart for bowser and when he said Bowser beats Cloud I was just kinda like "huh?" Bowser's disadvantage is so terrible, especially against a character like Cloud who has great juggling with up air which completely ruins Bowser. One of Bowser's only landing options is down air which Cloud can just up air, as Sparg0 did in this set. Not to mention Cloud's back air is basically unpunishable for most characters on shield, and Bowser is no exception so Sparg0 can just shield pressure him for free without much fear of getting hit with up b oos. Bowser also does not have a single move that is safe against Clouds frame 7 up b oos. Overall I think the MU is even or slightly Cloud favoured.

  • @lokks2130

    @lokks2130

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most Cloud mains say worse. Leon was being kind in comparison saying it was even/slight win. Cloud wins neutral, but Bowser destroys him offstage. I would also agree it's even/cloud favour due to the fact that can kill bowser pretty easily offstage himself.

  • @Logan17258

    @Logan17258

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Connie Ford that’s read dependant, if you are constantly getting ur bairs stuffed by bowser then ur just getting outplayed. It’s on the cloud player to not be predictable with bair timing. Notice how Sparg0 hit him with a million bairs this set. Also about the flame breath I mean cool that’s not something to make or break a matchup. If bowser is far enough away that he can’t be punished that also means that cloud isn’t in that much danger to begin with. The bulk of flame breath damage comes from being up close.

  • @bazzarde1

    @bazzarde1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll tell you why. It's because that's his opinion, you just happened to have a different one from him. Your matchup view is just different from his. Here's the crazy part though, both of his and your opinions/view are completely fine.

  • @federicolarrazabal2032

    @federicolarrazabal2032

    2 жыл бұрын

    My guy both spargo and leon agree that the matchup is bowser favored. Look at both their matchup charts and they both put bowser at winning.

  • @ohcomeon1111

    @ohcomeon1111

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah only reason I see it as even is because bowser has the weight advantage and enough mix ups. A good cloud player should be able to space properly and take advantage of bowser disadvantage. The good thing is he can't kill bowser with a throw but it can lead to advantage for cloud. When it comes to matchup charts I don't think these guys play enough people who are good with the character. In most cases 1 really good thing can win a matchup because it's all about stage control and getting early kills in this game

  • @liquidmiilk7764
    @liquidmiilk77642 жыл бұрын

    1:56 I feel like one commentator was mocking the other for a sec 🤣

  • @Telescreen5

    @Telescreen5

    2 жыл бұрын

    I didn't catch it before you pointed out, low key jab for sure. lol

  • @blackghostcat
    @blackghostcat2 жыл бұрын

    This happened to me at a local recently. Couldn't figure out how to beat the Bowser with aegis, so I switched to cloud and reverse 3-0d

  • @downwardsaerial2239
    @downwardsaerial22392 жыл бұрын

    I love this matchup

  • @tvoltage
    @tvoltage2 жыл бұрын

    great commentators. had me invested

  • @fidzschool2941
    @fidzschool29418 ай бұрын

    I gotta learn how to space my Bairs like Spargo

  • @alchemy8112
    @alchemy81122 жыл бұрын

    古来からこのカードキツイはずなのに復帰の散らし方凄いな

  • @mxl8755

    @mxl8755

    2 жыл бұрын

    同意した

  • @user-ib2uk4lq7u
    @user-ib2uk4lq7u2 жыл бұрын

    Sparg0 is actually really good at making opponents side roll by pressuring them. His punish do not by camping.

  • @v4vendetta687
    @v4vendetta6872 жыл бұрын

    Why both wear same clothe?

  • @theonewhowrotethis5681
    @theonewhowrotethis56812 жыл бұрын

    $60k is pretty nice!

  • @rubberwoody
    @rubberwoody2 жыл бұрын

    yo that's SAIIIIII

  • @phintonpickleberg8917
    @phintonpickleberg89172 жыл бұрын

    leon got so complacent when he switched to cloud, that's really what i just watched, he thought he had it in the bag and paid the price, bowser can win both matchups and so can leon hes just gotta not be complacent like that

  • @jeffersonian4
    @jeffersonian42 жыл бұрын

    Pyra/Mythra: boring matches Cloud: AWESOME matches

  • @lycanfangtv6910
    @lycanfangtv6910 Жыл бұрын

    Leon is an absolute goat!

  • @joeyC34ee
    @joeyC34ee2 жыл бұрын

    Bowser does have tough guy in the air. Hero can not use magic burst to edge guard Bowser because Bowser will tough guy through the weak hits and clip Hero.

  • @tvoltage
    @tvoltage2 жыл бұрын

    leon go CRAZY

  • @user-xf1je4iv5z
    @user-xf1je4iv5z2 жыл бұрын

    5:05 ここわざと当たりにいってる?

  • @proudson3409
    @proudson34092 жыл бұрын

    I once thought Pythra was like Marth with 2 swords but her Neutral game is super overrated. Top tier but still not as impossible

  • @TyphonCH
    @TyphonCH2 жыл бұрын

    I don't care who's piloting Aegis nothing they do will impress me.

  • @Clarkbardoone

    @Clarkbardoone

    2 жыл бұрын

    Especially against bowser, that matchup is hard af for the bowser and a snooze fest for the aegis.

  • @fupalover
    @fupalover2 жыл бұрын

    Once someone figures out how to nullify bair they will be able to beat Spargo

  • @Telescreen5

    @Telescreen5

    2 жыл бұрын

    The answer might be parrying, but that shi is hard

  • @Greatermaxim
    @Greatermaxim Жыл бұрын

    We Chessplayers vary our habits. I am the best in my group yet not as good as Spargo at Ultimate. You also need to specialize in the game.

  • @Blyeth-go4wr
    @Blyeth-go4wr10 ай бұрын

    I can’t watch or play a match that’s on an animal crossing stage without hearing that bubblegum kk Alpharad short in my head. Nothing to do with the set, just an observation that no one needs to know.

  • @ohcomeon1111
    @ohcomeon11112 жыл бұрын

    For how good leon is he misses a lot of tech chases and reads

  • @eytys8758
    @eytys87582 жыл бұрын

    クラウド対クッパでクラウドが不利というのは嘘です。

  • @mxl8755

    @mxl8755

    2 жыл бұрын

    同意した. クラウドのフレームデータは優れてよ

  • @Connor_Kirkpatrick
    @Connor_Kirkpatrick2 жыл бұрын

    10:07 That was satisfying

  • @RangoTheMercenary
    @RangoTheMercenary2 жыл бұрын

    Remember when we were all convinced to believe Bowser beats Cloud?

  • @ankeviousoliver4472

    @ankeviousoliver4472

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bowser does imo. This is more of a Spargo thing hes just a beast.

  • @yagyabudha8122
    @yagyabudha81222 жыл бұрын

    wut thi fk?

  • @bradleygo1
    @bradleygo18 күн бұрын

    I hate when they show a character and most of the character they actually play is different. I was expecting cloud all the way. Just put both characters fuck

  • @moisesrvs
    @moisesrvs5 ай бұрын

    Was enjoying the video until the commentators ruined it using the Lord's name in blasphemy

  • @Hypeman10
    @Hypeman102 жыл бұрын

    Why are they STILL wearing masks?

  • @BadGoyz4Life

    @BadGoyz4Life

    2 жыл бұрын

    And at summit they were playing side by side, no masks for most of it

  • @Call_Upon_YAH
    @Call_Upon_YAH2 жыл бұрын

    LeoN has to be one of the most predictable Bowsers I've ever seen :/. He took zero risks and the irony of that being; he never UpBd out of shield once. The guy was close to beating Spargo with this many problems. Hopefully this message is passed on to him that he may perform better and refine his Bowser. GG

  • @johantitulaer1052

    @johantitulaer1052

    2 жыл бұрын

    He did up B out of shield while ledge trapping tho.

  • @bandwagon2290

    @bandwagon2290

    2 жыл бұрын

    U can't say he's predictable then say he needs to do the most predictable thing out of shield lmfao

  • @lokks2130

    @lokks2130

    2 жыл бұрын

    Up b out of shield is just good lol, it's not inherently predictable idk why you'd try and refute him by saying that

  • @lokks2130

    @lokks2130

    2 жыл бұрын

    He did actually use UP b oos btw

  • @bandwagon2290

    @bandwagon2290

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lokks2130 it is predictable what other move do u expect a bowser to use out of shield? Maybe if he down b outta shield ill see the unpredictability but everyone is expecting a bowser to up b outta shield

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