The classical music of Pakistan has two main principles, ‘sur’ (musical note) and ‘lai’ (rhythm). The systematic organization of musical notes into a scale is known as a raag. The arrangement of rhythm (lai) in a cycle is known as taal. Improvisation plays a major role during a performance. The musical tradition that you talked about is also accurate these are musical families who pass on their knowledge from fater to sons and so on...like Rahat Fateh Ali Khan whom you reacted the other day is the 17th Generation singer of his family who have been associated with music for last 600 odd years

@hotyumar23

3 жыл бұрын

Btw good job ...your reviews are coming from a pure place. But the beauty of Pakistani music is the courage of the musicians to be brave enough to try each and every type of music. Generally though the songs are like a story and have more to do with feelings. Explore coke studios and Nescafe Basement some more and you will come to appreciate the huge talent that we have here. Also as a recommendation please try Bol Hu from Nescafe Basement ... you will enjoy it.

Most classical South Asian music isn't transcribed onto paper. Musicians are trained by ear to recognise notes. They learn many different ragas which are like scales, but instead of taking upon a linear form like in the west (C up to C, back down to C, or whatever the starting note is), performing ragas in S. Asia take upon a cyclical, spiral form where the performer moves up and down the scale, building upon the last cycle by starting lower, going higher, until a climax is reached. Once a musician knows the ragas, performing it is mainly intuitive and a fair bit improvisation. It's instinctive which note to go up to or down to next.

@lostblackat6362

3 жыл бұрын

So i wonder you ve a good music taste ! Good !

@sweetlover7448

3 жыл бұрын

But it can be written on sheet

@amanhuda7499

3 жыл бұрын

@@sweetlover7448 it can be theoretically but it’s quite a daunting task and just isn’t usually

@nazs3332

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

What you just reacted to doesn't have any historic precedence. Its a fusion between the subcontinental music, western, Middle Eastern, Turkish. This CS season was totally experimental, one of my favorites but the masses couldn't get the whole of it as they weren't ready for it.

Season 6 by far was my favourite. It was a collaborative effort to make music across internatuonal borders. One of the songs i loved out there was "Moray Naina". It is an unusually pleasant & mystical at the same time. Id recommend you listen it at least once time if you can

Traditionally south Asian music is not meant to transcribed on paper rather it is the performer's expressions improvised on the spot with other musicians intuitively taking part in it. The basic rules of ragas are defined (often broken nowadays) which help other musicians to guess what the next improvisation might be. And when a group of musicians performs together for a long time, they understand each other so much that the MAGIC happens. Now, if you understand, it means a performer never replicates a performance. Hi John... I don't understand music a lot but I feel enough to enjoy it, and you are helping me enjoy it even further by making me understand it. Thank you. P.S. If you please, react on 'BOL HU' by 'SOCH the band'.

Usually a Raga note is rehearsed about 500 times which is the standard time and number for to learn a specific Rag.. the rifs , the up and down notes which they make while singing , it’s called the ornaments.. during practicing 500 times you come across many different notes of your own, which in turn helps you when you are lost somewhere in the music.. for a pro musician, it’s actually 500 different ways to move out from the original and sing and then come back to the original and you won’t even notice , it’s improvised , part of it is written and part of it is improvised. Listen to Carnatic music for instance. Same goes for every musical instrument, and then when the pro sit together, they just listen to moves with the music.. they synchronies without writing anything, to be able to do that , one need to study music for at least a decade.. these musicians that you see at coke studio are very well professionally trained musicians.. more than 10 years of learning at least.. hope that answers your question..

@johncameron

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this informative reply

Yes this music is often transcribed.. we have our own scales and way of writing the notes and the rythm .. in hindustani classical music especially in "khayal" singing/playing, improvising around a thought/emotion (khayal) defines the soul of the music.. which of course is fueled by the artisis' interpretation and connection with the song.

I love bluegrass music, and what's funny is that I was introduced to it way back by none other than the Blues Brothers 2000 movie. :D Over the years I've listened to bluegrass in movies, on the radio, and on KZread.

This is collaboration song pakistani and turkish music coke studio that time based in Istanbul. The song is raag (hogi alra) which is pure music of sub continent .they are trying mix with all beats ... #rustamfatehalikhan singer

You will see some classical/traditional instrument in cokestudio or Netscape Basement >Tabla = pair of hand drums ( mostly in India , Pakistan , Bangladesh and nepal may be) > Dholak= Double -headed barrel drum also used in wedding in Pakistan and India. >Tanpura = Long neck plucked string instrument ( Pakistan, India , Bangladesh , Nepal) >Harmonium= Reed organ , free reed keyboard instrument ( India , Pakistan , Bangladesh) >Sarangi = bowed stringed instrument carved out of single piece of wood.(India , Pakistan , Bangladesh) >Dambora = folk instrument ( Pakistan , Afghanistan , Uzbekistan , Turkmenstan) >Bansoori = Bamboo flute ( India , Pakistan , Bangladesh or Nepal may be) >Suroz = Bowed string instrument (Pakistan traditional instrument) >Sitar = Pluked stringed instrument ( Pakistan , India , Bangladesh) >Rubab = lute like musical instrument (Pakistan and Afghanistan traditional/National instrument)

Pakistan specifically has lot of variations in music :Sufi music, classical , folk , rock ,rap & fusion of all can be seen only in Pakistan the land of colors & mystical melodies 👍

Music like this are so rooted in traditions in India, Pakistan that, if you are seeking proficiency, you will have to join these houses. Think of these musical houses as traditional martial arts dojos, sure you can learn martial arts on your own but there's value that can only be added to your self-taught skills once you immerse yourself in that environment.

This season reflects how combining the two opposites (eastern and western music), creates something so unique yet so beautiful without losing the essence of both. The music of this particular season, even after 7 yrs still moves you. I would say Rohail has invented a new GENRE of music. One who gets tangled in this music, it becomes impossible to leave. Cheers to reacting on this, hope you check out more.

I don't know much basic technical things about our South Indian music as your other subscribers, but I know this is classical music and that we also have contemporary music in the mass media, based still on the fundamental Ragas. In other words we mostly listen to light pop music. Our music had caught the attention of the West in the 60's , and there are music schools and teachers in the west and in the United States. You could simply google it. Enjoy your in depth analysis and curiosity. KEEP IT UP!!!

Hey please react to Garaj Baras, a forgotten old coke studio gem. You'll not regret it ever, it's got that rock and classical fusion that coke studio is famous for, and early songs like that marks the evolution for coke studio as a whole. Your music knowledge is incredible 💖 I love your reactions

@arfeenminhas3869

3 жыл бұрын

Yes please

Rohail Hayat producer of Coke Studio Season 6 went international and featured international artists from all around the world and he did it again for Coke Studio 2020. He is a musical genius. The drum like instrument played with both hands is called Dholak its a sister of Tabla. These traditional singers are chosen usually from family of singers whose talent is passed on from hundreds of years and they are groomed and their training process is v tough and harsh, even with great voice and talent its hard to just adopt this sort of style in few days it needs practice. P.S: Billy Strings seems like a v talented musician for his age, really impressed. I really enjoy bluegrass music, always fun to listen to it.

Really ,i hv no words to descripbe this song...mesmering ...listen hundred times...rogail hayat ...no matchs ...respect and regards for rohail...great great compoaer of pakistan ..still wait for him

So nice melody.

Thank you for recommending Billy Strings. Though I enjoy country music, I was introduced to the Appelachian genre "bluegrass" music through you. Very enjoyable. Keep recommending.

The drum he plays with two hands on its sides is called "Dholak"

you should go for (khaki banda) a perfect sufi rock song. best fusion of western rock and sufi concept.

Dear, yes you can learn it through Gurus of our music, but remember it takes a lot of time as its done through generations in our part of the world

You are a very genuine person and I am loving your videos. Please react to the song "Madari " - by Clinton Cerejo feat Vishal Dadlani and Sonu Kakkar - Coke studio@MTV Season 2

Loved it

Very underrated song.

That was a pretty well encompassing question! You need Southeastern music in a nut shell. The music transcritption is based on sounds like the solfa. The sounds are transcribed with the distance the note needs to be held as per a prescribed "Raag" which is the root of a tune. And there are tons of these ...perhaps every permutation and combination of the chromatic scale. There are 12 note raags as there is a single note ones. The sounds they sing ..ma ma ma..and stuff are the root notes of the tune. As there are prescribed "Raags" there a prescribed "Taal" for the rhythms. And several combinations of these create songs and stuff when they're played together. The teaching of it is all vocal based on different "gharana"s. Taal too is taught vocally using something called kannakol in South India. Not sure what's it in rest of India. The vocal techniques of the root notes being sung vary from gharana to gharana. And after the root notes are sung most of the rest is ad libbed. Except that the lyrics are substituted for the root sounds.

Pakistani songs are based on having meaningful lyrics first and then the manner of music that suits it. Unlike the "sheet music" of the west, the highs, the lows and the note changes are free to roam but it should be good to hear.

in general most classical indopak musical genre is a culmination of cross polonisation of different music from middleast , central asia , aincent persia and aincent Hindustani. You also have to look at the books of Imam Farabi , an islamic jurist who formulted various musical scale and invented instrument so persian influence can not be ignored. For instance qwali music tone and notes is straight from central asia, introduced during the time of various ruling dynasties..

Some info Subcontinent Classical Music: Two main elements Raag and Tala. *Raag is very unique Raag is melody to express the feeling , the melody of raag is combination of musical notes Raag is not random combination or melody. Raag is set of notes in ascending or descending order minimum 5 notes in one order. Every raag has rules. difference between Raag and Western music Scale in western you can have combination of any note with any note but in Raag , there is no random combination of notes. But now India is more going towards modern western music. Pakistan is still keeping their roots to classical music. in old times when Their were great Classical singers from each part of Subcontinent ( India , Pakistan , Bangladesh). There are still Great Classical singers Rahat fateh Ali Khan , Abida Perveen and others are from Pakistan. Rahat worked in India so many times .Indians love Rahat so much . *Sufi music is the devotional music and Qawali is best form of Sufi (Islamic)culture . Qawali was originally performed at sufi shrines in South Asia .( In the beginning of Sufism , Sufi people (devotee) did not use musical instruments but use their voices or claps.or write poetry.But as time goes on traditional instruments invented and use in these classical or Sufi music. And in qawali there is Main singers and backup singers which repeat the lines of main singers with clap. In old times qawali mostly used for Sufism ( to praise God) but as the time goes Qawali used to express the love for lover also. Sufi means mysticism in Islamic(Muslims)culture. In Sufi music , musicians praise God and its prophets. Qawali is mostly used by Pakistani singers. Ghazal is short poem consisting of rhyming couplets called sher. Ghazal understood as a poetic expression of both pain of loss or separation and beauty of Love in spite of the pain. Ghazal is also from Muslim origin.

This type of singing is based on specific notes but there is secondary layer, which prescribes a particular "raag" as the theme of the song. There many raags that need years of practice to perfect. Hope this helps.

I just ended up watching most videos, Naina Moray is worth giving a shot

This kind of music is considered as a classical music and is learned as a basic for all the students by their ustads or teachers.....it's not written but by practicing it every day for hours to master

Oh man you haven't heard to Qurtulain Baloch... its a humble request to react to (Lal Meri pat) from coke studio...... a great fusion of Sufism and mordern notes..🙂🙂

That last instrument is called Tunga I believe you should listen to Mamdu Diabate he's a master of this

It can be written on sheets I think you can search on google or find some videos But the Classical singers mostly learn from listening ear

Very nice reaction 👌

Indian classical music is quite different to Western music in terms of scales and notes. Western music uses major and minor scales and equal temperament notes and chords while the concept of chords and fixed notes doesn't work for Indian classical, it uses a much more complex system of Raag/Raga, with parent scales and descendant families that sound very different from each other. The raga is a melodic framework that is a combination of notes. The Indian music is based on melody or single notes played in a specific order. Western music divides a scale into 7 notes or 12 notes (adding sharps) while Indian music divides a scale/register into 22 intervals which are known as “srutis”. These 22 intervals/frequencies can't be played on fixed frequency instruments like Piano but can be achieved vocally and with stringed instruments by bending the string. I know it might sound confusing at first but learning these 22 intervals and using them is the core of whole Indian music. You have to look at Indian scale or raag as a color or a melodic framework instead of fixed notes of ascending descending order. To start a performance, a singer will first select a tonic note suitable for his vocal and the color of the raag, lets say its C on western scale, then he would get the harmonic fifth that's G, now these two notes will serve as a foundation for that piece. The other remaining notes are in specific order and frequencies, for example if he's singing a Raag/melodic frame that requires the next next frequency, he may or may not go to fixed note D but would sing a frequency few hertz above or below D or it might be D depending on that Raag, same goes for all the remaining notes excluding the Tonic C and G that I mentioned above will be the foundation and resting point of that piece. So this song is not a pure classical but semi-classical fusion piece just like many other Coke Studio songs. To get started, try to play this piece on Piano and Guitar and you will soon notice that some notes can't be played on Piano and might sound off or out of tune at first but when you bend the guitar string it becomes evident that these hidden frequencies are naturally melodic to each other. Practice this piece from 0:0 to 2:35 a whole new door will open up kzread.info/dash/bejne/p3-Nq859gNbadsY.html Love from Pakistan

There should be many more likes on this!!Come on!

Subcontinent music traditions: ---- the reason this is difficult to call "Indian" or "Pakistani" is because all of this music predates the creation of India/Pakistan in 1947. These traditions are old and often unique to each individual region in the subcontinent. The following is a brief high-level classification attempt on my part to describe the music of South Asia by which is meant the countries of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bhutan. The music here varies tremendously, but is uniquely South Asian and nowhere else (except when performed by emigrants). Hindustan (also another name for India) Classical and Carnatic classical have many similarities, as they developed together over the last thousand years. Some folk and qawwali/sufi music tradition is more recent, going back hundreds of years. Hindustani Classical -- played in North India and Pakistan Carnatic Classical -- South India Folk music -- varies region to region, all over subcontinent of South Asia, tends to be simpler, light Tribal music - examples the tribes of North-East India (very old, unique to individual tribal regions Contemporary popular music (incl movie songs) Qawwali music - very specific instance of a folk music in Pakistan and adjacent areas in India in style, content and and also the performance of a type of musical ritual event Sufi music - devotional music which I'd classify as somewhere between structured classical and qawwali traditions (call it light classical) and often used in qawwali

@johncameron

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to share this information

Hey John, I am enjoying your reactions and regarding your comments during the video i would suggest you to watch BTS as every Coke Studio Video has a BTS so Just write "Tori Chab BTS". The guy singing belongs to a prestigious lineage of Singing Families; he represents the 7th Generation of Famous Patiala Gharana and the melody he is singing is composed in a North Indian Raaga called "Abhogi" this Raaga is unique and rarely sung bcoz it has only 5 notes. You will learn a lot more from the BTS and you will be able to see the creator of Coke Studio Mr. Rohail Hyatt; he stared Coke Studio back in 2008 and it was an instant success the show became so popular that Coca Cola took this show to Africa, middle east and India. Rohail Hyatt produced first 6 seasons and he took Coke Studio season 6 outside Pakistan and recorded Artists from Serbia, Nepal, Morocco, Turkey, Bangladesh, etc. Rohail Hyatt returned to Coke Studio last year in season 12.

South Asian music is based in melodic frameworks called "raag". There are several raags and the musician adhers to those while attempting improvisations. Tori Chap was pure classical, until the foreign fusion came. It takes years and years of "riaz" or practice to attain the level of expertise we witness (hear). To answer your question classical raags have no direct relationship with classical Western music.

@johncameron

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info

Hello dear yes you can

Reax recommendation: "Bol Hu" by Soch featuring Hadiya Hashmi from Nescafe Basement :)

Yes you can learn. Yes you will need a teacher bro.. This guy is an Ustad aka Maestro There is very less possibility to be as good as him.. but never say never eh?😉👍🤫

Thanks man, u should check the BTS of these songs to learn about this music. U can add BTS to reaction too,next one should be 'Miyan ki malhar' from same season 6.

Hey dude! Got a rec for ya! Check out the Berklee Indian Ensemble feat Shankar Mahadevan. Blending jazz fusion with several Indian instruments and techniques, including some awesome konnakol. Hope you enjoy!

You cannot learn it online as far as I know. You must prove your thirst for music, Students are chosen!!!!

John thats not traditional singing, that's classical singing. You would need teacher n practice. Obviously any one can learn it. Why don't you try nain moray coke studio

Please do listen to “Garaj Baras” coke studio season 1 by Rabat Fateh Ali Khan and Ali Azmat. Thanks 🙏

Garaj baras coke studio by ali azmat who is inspired by maybe your favorite artists

Humble Recommendation: Raag Darbari by the Great(est) Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. Rocket Ship to Spiritual Ecstacy!!!

From coke studio. Mundari, Rang, tajdar e haram.

Yes u can learn

Go for "Bol ho" Nescafe and" Allah hu Akbar " coke studio season 10

Thank you very much for recommendation, I'm gonna get lyrics in text form and listen this song over and over again till the time I learn it by heart. Lighter Note: The singer enjoying it so hard that it feels like he is having orgasms'.

React on naina moray by coke studio

That drum is called dhol

Please please react to kanday uttay coke studio pleaseee 😭😭

Kindly react to Naina Moray Cokestudio

PLEASE REACT TO KITNI SADIYAN BY FARAZ ANWAR INTERNATIONAL MASHUP THE JOKE NESCAFE BASEMENY

Plz reaction run away coke studio plz bro

Hello john referring to ur question. Obviously u can learn this, yes we have teachers here who can teach u this classical way of music. How? Obviously i am not a musician. But if u wanna get the idea, please listen to Nusrat fateh. Atleast u will get the idea in what way it is different

I have never seen this video 😕

Please react on Mundari coke studio and u will thank me

Please react to Coke Studio Season 8 - Kadi Aao Ni - Mai Dhai & Atif Aslam :D

Plz react to Naina Morey coke studio Gorakh dhanda nescafe basement

Please react to Dhrupad singing by Wasifuddin Dagar (or anyone, really)

Are you still accepting answers to your questions?

@johncameron

3 жыл бұрын

Sure