CNA | Talking Point | E20: Controlling Singapore's pigeon population
Singapore's pigeons are often called a nuisance. However, when they are culled, animal rights activists call the process cruel. Can their population be contained without claiming the lives of these birds?
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I'm an individual living with ornithophobia (fear of birds, most commonly pigeons). It all started from a childhood trauma as well as a recent incident of an aggressive bird dashing in my direction and crashing into me. Living around pigeons has been difficult for me, especially when I have to take detours just to avoid flocks of them, and eating at coffee shops has often been a fearful and uncomfortable experience. Please do something about these pigeons, it need not be eradicating them cruelly, but redirecting them away from residential areas.
@annalow6435
4 жыл бұрын
Me too.. i also have to detour to avoid the pigeons.
@natmaneepol26
4 жыл бұрын
I'm also afraid of birds.
@lalabearlittlebear
4 жыл бұрын
Same! Very fearful of them. I've avoided eating in coffeeshops and hawker centres in the day because of them. I always have to wait somewhere while my family have their lunch when I realised the eating place has pigeons around. It's such a pain. My day life is miserable. I feel more at ease eating out at night when they are not around me.
@metalpoIe
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm trying to do something about them. Mind sharing which eating places have the worst pigeon problems?
@sohfihamid4164
11 ай бұрын
dramatic . just live inside a cave for heaven's sake!
I think I need to stop my step grandmother from feeding these pigeons with rice
@theamgchannel9962
4 жыл бұрын
Bren Dan although they poop a lot you don’t have to kill them
@user-oh6wb5rj2q
4 жыл бұрын
@@theamgchannel9962 exactly can you imagine that you're the pigeon?
@rylenesia6901
3 жыл бұрын
The AMG Channel bruh u dont want diseases from the pigeons do u?
@Seramics
3 жыл бұрын
@@theamgchannel9962 steady la, if got kena any diseases arising from the bird poop. You pay up la hor, all you bird lovers .
@jameslim3850
11 ай бұрын
The main problem is NOT residents feeding the pigeon as they will still find food in people's homes or at food centres. The only way is to CULLED them to control their population. we have no other choice.
CNA produce such singapore good documentaries. Really like them. from social issues to.. pigeon. Love it, carry on the good work team!
Huge population of pigeons leave a lot of droppings everywhere and it is a serious hygiene issue. I think everyone can make an effort by putting away the cutlery and throwing leftover food. Most importantly, stop feeding them.
@Seramics
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Keep SG clean.
There are people feeding pigeons all over the place with impunity. Until a few offenders are fined heavily, and an example made of them, there will be no end to this problem.
But it is not the responsibility of the common people to tell off pigeons feeders. We know how grouchy these people are and may beat you up. It is the same with errant smokers. Where are the enforcement officers? There are not enough enforcement officers. We need them to do their job until 12 midnight.
The spikes reminded me of the gates of Tampines JC. It was put up to stop people from climbing in to use their running tracks in the old days
They are the descendants of the WW II heroes. They shouldn’t be treated as nuisance. .. thats unethical.
In the old days, people would nab pigeons as food
@spdfatomicstructure
Жыл бұрын
Still done in some areas of this region, apparently. Pigeons are served as meat in some islands of Indonesia
@SuccessforLifester
Жыл бұрын
@@spdfatomicstructure I had pigeon soup decades ago. Considered a delicacy
@jameslim3850
11 ай бұрын
The main problem is NOT residents feeding the pigeon as they will still find food in people's homes or at food centres. The only way is to CULLED them to control their population. we have no other choice.
Honestly if we wanted to control the pigeon population we should look into encouraging raptors/birds-of-prey that prey on them to nest and breed in Singapore, in particular falcons. Peregrine Falcons are known to prey on pigeons, and while they have been spotted here they are not resident breeders as of yet. Perhaps constructing nestboxes for falcons on the roofs of tall buildings (like HDB blocks), which falcons could also use as a hunting perch, and having a programme to encourage them to breed and prey on pigeons, could be more ideal than just simply culling pigeons wholesale.
@randompheidoleminor3011
6 ай бұрын
The peregrine falcon is native solely to the Americas. They head to colder areas to breed too so they wouldn't survive in Singapore nor would they want anything to do with densely populated cities, as shown by peregrine falcon behaviour in the US.
This vdo is worth watching.
Where to buy these pallets
I have an idea for a pigeon trap - build a narrow tower where the top floor has just pillars (like a bell tower) and a machine will spread crumbs on the floor. Once enough pigeons land on the floor, 4 thin metal walls will come down and create a cage that will go down to the bottom floor of the tower and then the metal walls will go up again to hide above the top floor's ceiling and a new floor will come down from the ceiling with new crumbs.
We can start catching them and cook them for meat. Roasted pigeon can be a delicacy.
Where can one get the sleeping pellets for pigeons?
@sohfihamid4164
11 ай бұрын
Use that poison yourself!
Maybe we can try playing recording of Eagle voices on loud speakers to frighten them off.
Oh new video
They can't solve the problem will blame elderly feeding them.How many elderly feeding birds ,where they are having problems feeding themselves.
i saw pigeons eating meat in food market . i think they are evolving
Use falcons or other big birds of prey
Should find way to make all those pigeons infertile. No need to do mass killing, but don't let them breed either.
The loft idea is the best. Should not have been left to the end of the report, but featured.
Set up Hawker stalls that specialise in Pigeon soups.
Serving them as a food on the table might be a solution, just a suggestion hahah.
我记的以前,新加坡没那么多鸽子,是不知道从什么时候开始,有人开始学法国人喂养鸽子,我记得报章也有报导,当时,每个人都是以,好像在法国那样可以喂养鸽子而感到开心不已,但现在,就是那些人四处喂养而搞成这样,好恶心啊。
Not bad. CNA took the trouble to 3D print pigeon chess pieces...
Yo Auntie (5:21) - bring them to a place and just leave them and let them be? Can, your home is located where ah?
Try solving the problems in HDB high-rise windows , aircon spaces that hibernate their eggs .... not just showing some solutions for condos or landed property or food outlets only . Just look at the design of our HDB buildings , you don't need to feed them , for them to come uninvited .... its a wonderful love nest for all pigeons . It's also a nightmare with complimentary poops , dirty nest and half dead baby pigeons every month !!! This program did not come close to showing the actual headaches that we faced with these birds daily . Sad but true . You could have done far more to show the real issues . Otherwise I don't see a point to this , especially blaming food waste as a main culprit . I am not even living in those high pigeons' population areas and my little HDB aircon balcony is already fully covered with unsightly net and spikes that we improvised .Thats how bad the situation is for me & our neighbours to take these drastic steps . oh I forgot to mention the dirty poops all over our ledges that can only be repainted every few years by the town council .
Name is "Singapura" but there's no cats??? Chasing pest (gecko, rodent, cat, cockroach) is what cat do everyday, they enjoy the game.
@stephenleong7373
4 жыл бұрын
Roflmfao
And 4 years later what do we have?
l love pigeon
Pigeons are cute
general tso's 5 step 2 star pigeon
Life Is Life
Start hunting them down and eating them. :D
Haze. Unsolved. Pigeons, unsolved. Flats lease expiry and depreciation. Price hikes all over. FT. I think VTO
NEA, Why not you guys sterilised the pigeons and reduce their numbers or just net these birds as they posed health risks
What about falcons?
how about mynah problems?
ppl who feed pigeons in HDB, tend to throw stale bread out of their windows. so its harder to catch them in act.
Why don’t just use them as Singpost mail delivery?
Pinoy kapampangan: (cook them) adobong maparas ampo malangi.
Why not introduce more Peregrine Falcon to the area?
@muhammadrauf2600
3 жыл бұрын
Pigeons are already an invasive species. We don't want to add another non local animal here, it will probably eat local birds too 😅
The solution is eat it
Pigeon satay! That's mine answer to the problem!
Those animal rights activists that call pigeon control works cruel should care about other animals instead. There has been overpopulation of pigeons. No choice. If you care about these birds, raise one yourself at home.
I rather keep the small sparrows than mynahs & pigeons ya.
Well my cat killed around 6 pigeons this year so maybe the solution is to leave cats alone?
Totally unimpressive methods
Just open a roasted pigeon stall and give it for free..problem solved!
@Yerinjibbang
4 жыл бұрын
lmaoooooo
how to solve this problem: Ensure people clear their trays / air condition the place to reduce pigeon population
Introduce an apex bird predator.
Why not eat them like we do to chickens? People can eat worms, insects, etc., so what is stopping pigeons from becoming another delicacy?
@ainzooalgown7589
4 жыл бұрын
pigeon is a popular dish in many parts of the world even Gordan Ramsay has videos on it kzread.info/dash/bejne/YnaLwc6nftHFj7A.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/i4iIwbSok6XgZJs.html
Kalau di Indonesia, habis tuh jadi pecel burung dara 🍗 😃
the current haze has already control this issue
ive had pigeon in jb before, tastes better than chicken. just grab them and sell them in the market lol
Timid Bird
No chicken, eat pigeons😀😀
And no one is gonna talk about How cute Pigeons are depending on their colour... How Pigeons help to clean the floor (oh wait they shit everywhere nvm) 17:12 Pigeon being addicted to Chlorine
Hi
i have a pigeon phobia why am i watching this
@quayuh
3 жыл бұрын
Ur scared of pigeons?
Poisoning them is stupid just find a predator for them
If they are willing to kill pigeons why not kill rats and roaches as well. I don't see the PETA doing anything about the rats or the roaches running around food.
@muhammadrauf2600
3 жыл бұрын
Peta is a hypocrate company, they do more killing of animals than protecting them. We are definitely killing rats and roaches, have you been living under a rock? Pigeons again is an invasive species, we should worry more about the local bird species before they dissappear. I say kill them all so our local birds can come back.
I have an idea, ask nea to develop a type of anti fertility food for the pigeons.
@user-wu2we3vq9r
4 жыл бұрын
they did!! i read an article and they mentioned it
Just make the tap water turn pigeons gay, Alex Jones agrees
2:50 Birds can be very smart, just look at corvids.
Is it really such a big problem i go out everyday eat also got bird but they dont bother me just leave them be
@muhammadrauf2600
3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't bother you but the pigeon are over populating. Native birds are disappearing, I say kill all the pigeons so the native birds can come back. Australia is killing stray cats so their native doesn't go extinct, if they can do it so can we. Save the native birds before they dissappear.
Let people use air gun lah
gene drives!!
*They are hungry sial*
I went to Egypte and the people eat them . It is the solution 😂😂
Göyerçinin düşmeni pişik ve Şahindi Mence pişik ,ve şahinle göyerçinlerin. Saylarına nezaret ede bilersiz
Those spikes aren't effective. They can perch on a tree or the roof.
Pigeons are living things.THEY HAVE A LIFE. Why does ppl not care about animal abuse??
@keffinsg
4 жыл бұрын
Let them come live in your house and shit all over the place, then we can talk.
@Ianlee1977
4 жыл бұрын
But they taste so good.
@geoffreylim6993
4 жыл бұрын
Not when everyone's lives was overwhelmed and diseases start spreading
@memcake
4 жыл бұрын
hi klarissa
@muhammadrauf2600
3 жыл бұрын
We want to see our native species come back and you want pigeons to strive... Thanks goodness you're not incharge or we might have a pigeon only bird in Singapore... 😑
“All the world seems in tune On a spring afternoon When we're poisoning pigeons in the park Every Sunday you'll see My sweetheart and me As we poison the pigeons in the park” - Tom Lehrer, “Poisoning Pigeons in the Park”
ppl who think killing pigeons is bad, should live in a room with 100 of them, among their droppings and such, and they will change their mind.
Pigeon is a good meat. Why not catch and cook? Free food la
Just make some delicious recipes using pigeon meat, you will soon see them reduced in big numbers.
pigeon soup is quite tasty
@TM-hg4lv
4 жыл бұрын
Ewww
@SuccessforLifester
4 жыл бұрын
It is still served in Chinese restaurants? I had one decades ago. Not sure if it is still available
gene drives.
Steriilize them?
Start pigeon soup stalls at those hawker centres. Make them so good (3 Michelin Stars) and we would solve the problem. Soon we wish there are more pigeons around :)
@SuccessforLifester
4 жыл бұрын
I had one before decades ago at lucky restaurant in Toa Payoh. It was very good.
Singaporeans should learn from the chinese in mainland China on how to get rid of pigeons.
Why not add a predator?
@aaronjoseph6659
4 жыл бұрын
Hi. People feed cats. That is the problem.
@aaronjoseph6659
4 жыл бұрын
For pidgeons, and rats.
@muhammadrauf2600
3 жыл бұрын
We don't want to add another non local species here. The predator might hunt other species too
EXPORT THEM TO INDONESIA AS A FOODBIRD ! THAS A SOLUTION !
If these pigeons was in Indonesia, they'll be gone in a week, pigeons is delicious
Should take out the Crow as well. Now you hardly see sparrow. The Crow eat them all.
Dont kill them I hate Cna
Flying rats! Start giving away free BB guns and catch your dinner!
Why not just capture them and sell them to restaurants for deep-fried pigeon?
War Machine: if we can go back in time, why don't we just fing the first pigeon and...(hands making the action of strangling)?
Every living things got their rights to live in this world ,u do not have the rights to kill it unless is cockroaches and mosquitoes
@abilbatman9406
4 жыл бұрын
*poor pigeons*
@henryettoit897
4 жыл бұрын
hypocrite...cockroaches are mosquitoes are "living things" too. But why do you feel its okay to kill them?
@geoffreylim6993
4 жыл бұрын
Tell that to other predators
@motherhoodsbeauty9279
4 жыл бұрын
Sun Phoenix they do not belong in the city so there for they need to be kill
@muhammadrauf2600
3 жыл бұрын
What a HYPOCRITE! lol
this is stupid... the only and simplest solution is to bring Predator birds aka Hawks/Falcons
@terencew3840
4 жыл бұрын
they will also hunt native endangered species and small animals such as cats. disrupting the eco system....
@muhammadrauf2600
3 жыл бұрын
@@terencew3840 exactly! lol Gosh people don't really think do they? They always try to find the easiest solution that always lead to another problem. 😅
Why not install speakers on the ceiling that play ultrasonic sounds blast into the sky above human head level at the entrance of retail stores, food courts and malls? Why not install an electronic life size lifelike fake eagle or owl that rotates head and eyes, auto expand and retract wings and makes sound or ultrasonic sounds that moves to and fro the entrance (upper ceiling part) of the food court or retail store via a pulley system (frame it as an amusement park toy to customer, may increase business from kids and families too) As the electronic owl is high up, there are less risks for tampering, at night, close the shutter or a box where the owl can go in to park and the box door auto lock via remote control to reduce theft? Start a trial on a few hawker centres to reduce the food sources for the pigeons. (Reference: www.worldbirds.org/how-to-get-rid-of-pigeons/) Please feedback to management.