How dare you use common sense and logic

@JamesKintner

2 ай бұрын

Damn, I had it typed. Next this you'll tell me a hybrid diesel engine is a good energy source for heavy trucking?

@Astroidboy.

2 ай бұрын

😅

@ahtheh

2 ай бұрын

Stop it, you'll actually do something good for the people and the planet

@plainText384

2 ай бұрын

1)Natural gas can be just as bad for the environment as (certain types of) coal when you account for methane leakage, especially in the short- to midterm. 2)Every tonne of natural gas extracted from the ground, at minimum, will cause 2.74t of CO2 to be released into the atmosphere. 3)There is absolutely no guarantee that a MWh generated from natural gas would have otherwise been generated from coal 4)Why invest billions in natural gas, which we will have to shut down again in a decade or two to meet climate goals rather than taking that same money and putting it towards a CO2 neutral source of energy that will be useful long term?

@kissarmyrules

2 ай бұрын

Intelligent thought is not allowed here, we think on a half-cocked, knee-jerk reactionary basis. NOW AWAY WITH YE!!!

Problem is theyre not talking about shutting down any of their coal plants just add more plants because theyre already having power problems

@jamesphillips2285

2 ай бұрын

Last year China installed more solar than the rest of the world combined.

@kjpw147

2 ай бұрын

Do you want more coal plants or more natural gas plants ?

@bradhaines3142

2 ай бұрын

@@kjpw147 heres the issue, natural gas is EASILY turned into a combined cycle, making it 60% efficient instead of only 30%. coal is already a steam turbine, youd have to burn more coal to make it make more power, natural gas power is a gas turbine, the gas turbine makes power on its own, then they use the heat off of that to power a steam turbine. so natural gas is WAY better from an energy perspective

You know what's an even better energy source than fossil fuels? Nuclear. You'd have to be nuts to not want nuclear power as a climate activist.

@rosen9425

2 ай бұрын

It's even worse, nuclear is mandatory. But these activists have already painted themselves into a antinuclear moral corner they can't back out from. How to shoot your entire foot off without knowing it 🤣

@SlayR1101

2 ай бұрын

Yet most climate activists are more terrifyed of nuclear than fossil fuels... It's a sad reality we live in. Nuclear is one of the cleanest sources of energy my massive orders of magnitude, and it is shunned due to lack of understanding.

@stormsirens2BACKUP

2 ай бұрын

Hell yeah! Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors for the future!!

@bloopbloop9687

2 ай бұрын

Nuclear, hydro, solar, wind, and battery storage is probably the best method for meeting energy damands, while being "environment friendly"

@rosen9425

2 ай бұрын

@@bloopbloop9687 Grid capable capacity battery? That is not happening. As in 'couple of thousands of years to mine the required metals' level of not happening Wind and solar is still not the majority means of production, because it can't be. The grid will not function without synchronous power and those are nuclear, hydro and other stable baseload generators

They don’t care about the environment, it’s all about money and power and the ability to control everyone.

@the_undead

2 ай бұрын

It's not even that because those natural gas pipelines will generate profit and quite a lot of it for BC, this is just idiotic politicians being idiots

You make a lot of good points and I am not disagreeing with you, however you're assuming that this NG will be used to shut down coal power plants and not just add to the total emission amounts.

@pneudmatic

2 ай бұрын

China has the coal to create more coal fired power plants and what they don't have they can get from Russia. If natural gas is scarce, then guess which they will build. We eventually need to get rid of natural gas as well, but coal first.

@aaronmathis1514

2 ай бұрын

It's not a zero sum game....if there is power needed it's going to come from some place. Whether that is dirty coal mined in China, Russian natural gas with absolutely no environmental regulations to speak of, or a pipeline in Canada? I think I know the best choice for the GLOBE.

@gordondewald8267

Ай бұрын

Logic says it will replace coal.

The one thing to worry about with increasing infrastructure like that is induced demand. Increasing the availability of natural gas doesn't mean that coal plans will shut down, it just means natural gas consumption will go up or it's price will go down. And if the global market for natural gas goes down, then it's much harder to sell governments on investing in the expensive greener infrastructure. Power plants last for decades and take many years to break even.

@Sturmischer

2 ай бұрын

Except the “greener infrastructure” isn’t really worth it in the first place right now (with the exceptions being nuclear and hydro-electric) as they don’t last long enough and have their own pollution issues. Nuclear and hydro-electric are the most expensive to set up but also last the longest when done correctly. Wind turbines have an erosion issue which is hard to fix and thus create their own landfill problems and solar panels are a consumable generator (solar farms that use mirrors and water towers don’t necessarily have the same consumable problem) and are easily interrupted by weather conditions.

@TheLazyComet

2 ай бұрын

​@@Sturmischer and thats the problem isnt it. nuclear and hydroeletric cost a lot more up front and take longer to pay off then an equivalent natural gas plant. governments need to actively want and push for those kind of projects, otherwise power companies will opt for the cheaper natural gas plants. only when the demand exceeds supply and the margins shrink will they start considering alternatives. its a messy world with big problems and no magic bullet. i wish shutting down coal power plants was as easy as increasing the availability of natural gas, but i dont think the world works that way

@Sturmischer

2 ай бұрын

@@TheLazyComet even then you would have to convince politicians that it would be worth it, which is really difficult since they won’t even be completed by reelection time, which is also the reason we’re still saddled with coal and oil power plants here in the US. Add to that the stigma of nuclear power or the potential for ecological damage with hydro-electric and its next to impossible to get governmental support for any of these projects. Which is why it’s better to have a less shitty hydrocarbon option than something like coal even if it’s not the best option.

@jaydunbar7538

2 ай бұрын

@@TheLazyCometthe problem is governments won’t push for nuclear, it’s the opposite they are most frequently actively pushing against any nuclear energy. Check out their stock portfolios for the reasons, the so called environmentalists sure do have a fortune invested in oil while pushing to only use solar and wind which actually increases demand on oil as it’s the best source for power that can easily be ramped up and down to accommodate for the unreliable nature of wind and solar.

Politicians and common sense don't seem to go together.

I'm not sure this take is nuanced enough. Of course natural gas is better than coal, but that isn't the full story. Consider: * What guarantees are there that this will directly replace coal usage? * Is it actually a one-to-one (per MW) replacement of coal? * Why can't/won't the coal plants be replaced with renewables directly? * What about shipping emissions? * What about induced demand due to increased supply/lower prices? * What is the impact on the local environment?

That is true, but only if the coal replacement is actually achieved.

I’ve been yelling this (in my head and to my friends if they will listen) for years. Full disclosure I work in a coal mine…

@alexwalker8422

2 ай бұрын

I have to wonder if it isn't dissonance, but rather, evil genius in some way. I wonder if it isn't a climate change relevance booster so avoidable statistics can be brought up.

@25aspooner

2 ай бұрын

@@alexwalker8422 An evil genius would probably want to make money while also saving the earth. Like, what is the point of being a billionaire if you are stuck on a shit filled planet… Same goes for minimum wage. Why would the richest people on earth want to live in a world full of poor people. Spread that wealth and then everything gets better for everyone.

@Ferit2813

2 ай бұрын

​@@25aspoonerunfortunately 90% of the rich are narcissists and an evil genius would be as well. They really don't care about anyone except themselves. Though you're point about climate change might be right.

I have a close friend of mine who used to work in a coal lab and he liked to point out the quantities of heavy metals that would come out of a power plant's smoke stacks. Not to mention coal ash and smoke are slightly radioactive.

@wobblysauce

2 ай бұрын

Yep, and localities that live nearby aren't good for kids development

@bradhaines3142

2 ай бұрын

coal ash is also used to make drywall, so thats actually another income stream for coal

@3029dz

2 ай бұрын

@@bradhaines3142 and concrete

I guess it’s still true, you can’t fix stupid, especially when dealing with politicians.

@davidhollenshead4892

2 ай бұрын

The big issues is educating the population so that they don't believe in stupid shit like "The China Syndrome", which was just BS for a Hollywood Movie...

THANKS!

My pet peeve with the Green party is how they dogmatically oppose nuclear power.

I thoroughly enjoyed listening to the arguments you were making and sounds like a no brainer to me!

Hi Chase, You certainly have a valid point in saying that natural gas is significantly better for the environment than coal. I agree 100%. However, the problem lies in the impact of this pipeline on its surrounding environment. Additionally, the construction of a new/larger harbor in Kitimat has devastating effects on the local terrestrial and marine ecosystems. The increase in shipping also disrupts local wildlife and poses a higher risk of shipping accidents with unforeseeable outcomes. In other comments, there has been discussion about how currently all the LNG going, for example, to China or India, is not replacing coal but rather subsidizing it. Therefore, no CO2 is being saved. The general goal should be to reduce power consumption overall, despite its unpopularity. This must be our collective and primary goal because without fossil energy sources, we cannot meet our current societal power needs yet or in the foreseeable future. Additionally, LNG emits large amounts of methane locally, so Kitimat and the surrounding area are definitely worse off. Obviously, climate change and energy transition require a global effort, and no single player or nation can achieve it alone. However, BC must do its best, like everybody else, to meet its own goals and not delay them because of actions by other players that BC cannot control. Cheers

Where did you get the table with the "nitrous oxide" listed like that? It's nitrogen dioxide - tell me where it's from, and I'll let them know. Thanks chase. Great review - natural gas pipeline really should be built

@jonasstahl9826

2 ай бұрын

Not an expert but it comes from the air used too burn the fuel. Nitrogen is technical N2 means two Nitrogen atoms connected to each other, under the right/wrong circumstance like high heat and oxygen present they splitt up too single Nitrogen Atoms, but they want to connect back together, that happends randomly, some connect back with other nitrogen other with oxygen forming NO, NO2 or even N2O3, N2O4. The amount of NOx you get depends on how good you get the oair too fuel ratio, that is much better to control burning a gas than it is too burn solid fuel like coal. Too little air while burning creates carbonmonoxid too much creates nitriosoxid.

i know youre posting and busy everywhere. but the electric vehicle conversion, you offer for some trucks. is it possible to do to somthing smaller like an old hatchback car?

Talking sense to someone that thinks they have at all is a waste of time. However, however, I absolutely agree with your message. As I live in California we get that same smoke from China. Anything we can do to help the entire planet. Will help us love your truck, by the way. Wish I was young enough to do more

Could not have said it better. Great work.

See the big problem is that China is not using the natural gas to shut down coal plants. China is still making new coal plants and this will just add to it. It would make more sense to pipe it to Alberta or Saskatchewan to actually shut down coal plants.

Not to mention Vancouver being one of the biggest coal ports in North America ..

Thanks!

Natural gas from North America won't change coal emissions in China. Local or North American combustion of Natural Gas has all the benefits you name, without shipping overseas.

Chase I like your style and comments .The go green group should educate themselve before they talk.

you forgot one part the person cutting the checks to the politicians

Last statement was the truest! "You'd have to be nuts not to want ng pipelines"

It’s about power

@dylanmorgan5589

2 ай бұрын

Politics is dumber than that. It's about stopping the other guy at all costs even when faced with a good idea simply because it didn't come from your party. Good engineering can replace pretty much any government policy.

@ToddAdams1234

2 ай бұрын

@@dylanmorgan5589yes, GOOD engineering can. Unfortunately those “in power” have engineered brainwashing into the education of “the masses” into our current society of the world. People just don’t know how to critically think anymore like they did when I was growing up. I might be ONLY 52 now, but I’m still a very good listener AND coming up with my OWN conclusions about what is right/wrong. Chase is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in his statement about the NG. That’s only part of why I stand where I stand. I’ll comment more on that WHEN the time comes! But, obviously not now.

@plainText384

2 ай бұрын

In certain scenarios methane leakage as low as 0.2% can completely eliminate all the climate benefits of natural gas vs. coal over a 20 year time span. Looking at just CO2 emissions gives you a very incomplete picture.

environMENTAL vs ecoLOGICAL shout out to “Clyde do Something” There is no first principle thinking in politics other than, “how do I get elected”. Keep making these videos. The political landscape will change. Hopefully sound logic will rule once again.

they are not gonna shut down, they need more power over there, btw we need more power everywhere.

Unfortunately most people are just too small picture solutions based. They have never understood the Butterfly Effect when it comes to issues.

Natural gas is tricky when it comes to greenhouse emissions. When you burn it, yes it creates significantly less CO2 per megajoule, but you also have to consider the methane leaks themselves as methane is an incredibly potent greenhouse gas. Methane is about 100x as potent a greenhouse gas as CO2, so if even half a percent escapes before being burnt (including incomplete combustion), then it's not a net benefit. However, methane also doesn't stay in the atmosphere very long. After ~15 years the methane has almost entirely reacted with ozone and converted to CO2 and water. The remaining CO2 has a fairly small impact, but during the years the methane was in the atmosphere it was absorbing almost 100x the energy from the sun that CO2 does. All of this is to say, I'm not sure what the global net harm/benefit is of transitioning to methane. But we have obvious solutions with nuclear/wind/solar so in my opinion we should be investing in those.

go get em.... love these truths... expand minds.

I've been talking for years about how we need to put clean energy in to replace where it is dirtiest FIRST, not replace clean modern plants with wind/solar, replace horrible dirty coal power first. Another thing people don't think about is that the developing world uses 1/150th as much steel per person as the developed world does ... they want to get there too, well, right now, we make steel using coal. We need to save the coal for making steel. On the scary side there are thousands of coal plants being constructed the world over right now, but the US, Germany, and other "advanced" countries are shutting down nuclear power plants with no plan to replace them. We are throwing away clean energy to build expensive new clean energy that should be getting built to replace unregulated unfiltered dirty coal plants.

The biggest reduction in GHG has been due to the proliferation of natural gas over coal.

I wonder if my old Cherokee xj can be converted.

These are great points ! And you brought receipts to prove and you still got noted. 😂

You got my vote

It is not about the environment its about control

It is currently a lot cheaper for China to switch to renewable off of coal outright than to go to gas - as y'all have said solar is just so damn cheap. Besides, they have a pet gas source anyway - Russia

@danielkingery2894

2 ай бұрын

Sure cheaper....customers China doesn't GAF about reliable electrical supply....so "renewable" works for them.👍 They also build hydro in places that need reliable electricity.

Oh the irony of seeing a blue KZread Climate Change warning below this video.

what no one ever talks about is how were pumping nat gas thats the biggest issue with it

Rather can taxing the hell out of people and industries in Canada, why isn't there carbon tariffs on products coming in from countries that don't seem to care about the environment?

Agreed

Around 1:23 are you sure you're comparing apples to apples? Are the numbers in the chart just for production, or do they include emissions when burned? Are your stated coal figures the same metric? (To be sure, I think you're right, in any case we need to focus on reducing coal burn worldwide, and if gas helps, so be it).

So Australia should export even more lng to China?

@TheKRUNKONE

2 ай бұрын

Probably better for the environment for Australia to do it.

@Christoph1888

2 ай бұрын

@@TheKRUNKONE Must not be Australian. We will sell more to China but not use it our selves. Instead we have become wind and solar puratins. But the reality is we just keep using coal. There is the narrative the political parties tell the people, then there is reality.

You should run for prime minister of Canada lol

@Keiththescoutcrazy

2 ай бұрын

He's too busy doing something smart for his country

@my_channel_44

2 ай бұрын

He's not effeminate enough.

@kevinb7551

2 ай бұрын

we have higher hope for all our citizens 😅

But you know... For politicians and activists, it'll never be enough. Because if they ever stop, they don't maintain control, stay in power, or keep collecting benefits from it (usually financial). Follow the money.

Politics is not always practical.

10/4 ghost rider

Don’t let great be the enemy of good please, policy makers! I can empathize with the fact that it can be tough to get the whole story right/told in a compelling way with real data, then get support from us non scientific regular people while we’re doom scrolling and just reacting to sound bites out of context all day long… guess all we can do is be as informed as possible

Mic fucking drop!!!!

Our governments aren’t logical or smart anymore, us 🇨🇦Canadians need to take care of us first

Don’t forget coal has heavy metals and radioactive material in it. That spreads out when combusted too

so Chase, when are you running for government?

Don’t you get smart with me mister! ☝️😠

When are you going to run for prime minister? Like seriously as a real Canadian on vancouver island working in the forestry industry for my family if you can bring your problem solving edison truck mentality to government we would all vote for you!!. Edison party all the way. You have my vote!

Well said

Any time you hear a politician say "Environmentally freindly" its got nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with them forcing through another restriction that will help either them or one of thier freinds companies in the future.... Canada, as a whole....is responsible for less than 2 percent of global emissions ( we are 1.4 percent of annual global emissions if i recall) ..... if every citizen in our country went out and burned plastic in our yards .... we still wouldn't make a dent in global emissions ..... we have the MOST space per person ... the MOST fresh water per person .... the MOST fertile farmland per person ..... and yet we are stranggled into oblivion by a government wanting you to suffer .... so some dude in a far off land can live better ......... i present my middle finger and repeat "sit and rotate enviro liar " .... or as i tell my freinds .... if you want a good life .... move to India.

It's all about the money. No, or at most, very few politicians actually care about the environment. The "climate crisis" is just a ploy they use to raise funds and stay in power. This "crisis" will never end as long as there is large sums of money involved. I'm all for clean burning machines/fuels. I love efficiency! We just shouldn't be kneecapping ourselves while in the process of striving for that next step in technology.

Please look into the effects of methane as a GHG. It is considered to be over 80x more potent than CO2 Next look at the amount of escaped methane from NG production and transport. It is quite a bit, even as reported by NG producers. Then assume that they are under reporting their estimates by a factor of %1000 (research has found it to be much greater than that: any environmental claims made by oil and gas are... suspect). This will affect your math when comparing to coal. Simply comparing CO2 produced when burned is a false equivalency. NOTE: coal is very bad, yes. But Natural Gas (methane) is not very good either -some might argue worse.

You can't just play the cards, you also have to play everyone at the table. Getting companies to invest in green technology while also making natural gas more affordable is recipe for failure

Its going to china? Okay now I have a problem.

We should be switching over to natural gas entirely as a step 1. Step 2 is to start producing more solar and wind. Step 3 is to switch diesel over to soy and food grade waste, and get all passager cars to run on e85. We should eye for all new light duty vehicles sold after 2035 be BEV.

you need to get voted into politics and more people like you. why are we the people not running for government to make the change.

If it's one thing I've learned about governments, you don't need to be smart to be a politician. The only requirements are being greedy, and being stupid.

But don’t forget that no actual climate leader would ever vote in favor of common sense!

"Shut down coal production [in China]" uh... what? China doesn't work like that. It's hard to understand, Westerners pretend to care about themselves and the future, but the communist autocracy is more honest about these things that suffering is the job of the people so their religious leader can advance the empire. Russia is not too far different but it got shaken up by actual democracy for a brief moment in the 1990's and since swung hard toward theocratic dictatorship, returning to its old pattern of wars and annexing. The thing that keeps China relevant in the world is that the whole world depends on Chinese exports (which is much less true of Russia) and do you think that some kind of hand-wave climate goals in China are going to motivate a reduction in coal-fired emissions which has kept China on the path for global economic dominance? It sounds like a stretch to me when coal is cheap and readily available, until there's something cheaper and more readily available that can be _exported from China_.

@TheBendablespoons

2 ай бұрын

​@@oxifirebeard9038simply not true

@ToddAdams1234

2 ай бұрын

@@oxifirebeard9038I’m apprehensive about buying ANYTHING from China. That stuff made from “chinesium” is 99.9% JUNK, even their boats have had the proper name since before I was born!

Well said!

I completely agree with your sentiment though your math is a bit misleading.

@3crowsfarm16

2 ай бұрын

incomplete math. Does not account for escaped methane as GHG -which is a lot and 80x worse than CO2

@WentzCraft

2 ай бұрын

@@3crowsfarm16 you are correct but it's important to think what will happen as an alternative? We need to weigh all options and transition as quickly as possible.

@chriskimber7179

2 ай бұрын

The point os to transition away from fossil fuels If you replace burning stuff with burning stuff you are not ahead.

I like your approach to designing your trucks. You're using your brain. Our governments aren't.

China is building more coal plants. Not shutting down.

As a climate activist you'd have to be nuts. You hit the nail on the head.

@plainText384

2 ай бұрын

methane leakage as low as 0.2% can make natural gas as bad for the climate over 20 years as (certain types of) coal.

I think all he knows is common sense if I move to bc . I’d like to work for him ❤😂

Well you see a lot of climate activists are nuts which is why they want the US to switch over to full plug in EVs despite the lack of power infrastructure to even transmit the power let alone clean generation. The majority of reasonable people do want something better which is why I'm fully behind diesel electric for the immediate future. Less batteries, more torque to the wheels, and more range per tank than either EVs or Normal gas/diesels but the same time to refuel as a gas/diesel.

You talk like the only options in China are coal or natural gas

We export everything to China, including coal. Not sure it’s good for Canadians in the long run, China is only expanding coal power to run all their manufacturing, they’ll just add the NG to their grid not shut down any coal plants unfortunately… a bit of wishful thinking unless we actually stop exporting coal.

Ducks are free at the park.

You should just run for Prime Minister. 😎

And then this doesn't even mention the fact that to the best of mine knowledge, there is no coal mines anywhere in BC. So these pipelines will generate profit alongside all the carbon emission reductions. So I genuinely have no idea why the green party is against those pipelines apart from just short-sighted thinking or being against the idea of change

@user-ld9ke2yv6t

2 ай бұрын

There are lots of coal mines in BC. Something a lot of people don’t know is there are different grades of coal. Some are used for steel production not power generation.

@3crowsfarm16

2 ай бұрын

You could have just googled 'coal mines in BC' and found very a lot. Given how catastrophically wrong you are about that, you should next consider if there are any other blind sides to your convictions.

it sounds like it would also move Chinese money to North America which is nice

Hybrid energy accounting at a local level. The scale of this is many multiples beyond one person's comprehension and actions. It's not working out.

A lot of people make their determinations with emotions rather then math, never trust someone who can't do math or refuses to.

We're gonna need nuclear power.

You are wrong about the actual goal. The real goal is virtue signaling. Not emission reduction.

Gas is nothing compared to water vapour

People say Chase should be a politician. That’s not gonna work he can draw his own conclusions thru common sense and google 😂. Politicians follow the agenda.

California does the same stupid thing, they mandate specially formulated gasoline which requires special refineries that also require special crude that has to be shipped from Venizuela. The ships that do that transport do more polluting on the way to California than is saved by the special formulation fuels.......but it makes Californians feel good.

Oh lets not look at cadmium and hard rock lithium mines and the natural disasters they are .

Great to see someone with a bit of reach calling out idiots spreading misinformation, with having evidence to back it up and properly explaining your evidence.

I’m sure we have climate criers all over the world crying we half to lower our carbon footprint but never say anything about China’s massive carbon footprint or India’s mass of carbon footprint or say anything about trying to get them to lower their carbon footprint

You going to go in politics? Coz we need people with comen sense in the there

If we want to have any impact on global warming , we definitely need to do this . The brain surgeons in Ottawa have no idea what their doing on this file

He got a note even though hes speaking the truth lmao

Why doesn't everyone just go fully electric at once? Just buy your batteries from the store. #ezpz (/sarcasm)

I like your last sentence, "as a climate activist, you'd have to be nuts to not like these pipe lines" well duh, if you're a climate activist, by definition you're a nut!

The vadt majority of people in higher power positions can't see past the tip of their own selfish nose.

Math is hard....

Don’t bring common sense into a good political argument…. 😂

They’re you go using common sense