Clement of Rome: Proof of Papal Authority?

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  • @diegopreciado9939
    @diegopreciado9939 Жыл бұрын

    I just wanted to say thank you. I am a Roman Catholic. As of about a week ago, I decided the Orthodox Church is the one true Church. I owe a large part of my conversion to your work.

  • @thehammared5972

    @thehammared5972

    Жыл бұрын

    Congrats.

  • @alexdiaz155

    @alexdiaz155

    Жыл бұрын

    Glory to God!

  • @diegopreciado9939

    @diegopreciado9939

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattjackson450 yeah, I was a Protestant before I become Catholic. I joined the Catholic Church at the age of 18. I'm now 25, so it took some time for me to come to this. I always used to wonder how anyone could possibly deny the papacy, until I started watching Ubi.

  • @chrislucastheprotestantview

    @chrislucastheprotestantview

    3 ай бұрын

    It seems that all one has to do, is to look to Polycarp, and know that 99.99% of the "churches" are wrong, including the papacy. And when you people complain about protest, many protestants were persecuted by Calvin and Luther and the like. To me, most that call themselves "protestant" are not. They cling to many of the things they can only find in the Roman Bishop's declaration. And I encounter plenty of so called Orthodox, just doing the exact thing most " Protestants" do. And the solution seems simple: Study Polycarp and see that he kept the same practices we see in the Bible. You don't have to twist scripture to do the things he taught. Easy to defend and support.

  • @Ortho_pilgrim

    @Ortho_pilgrim

    3 ай бұрын

    Welcome home! Glory to God!!

  • @blockpartyvintage1568
    @blockpartyvintage15683 ай бұрын

    You watched that many Reason and Theology videos? You deserve some type of an award king

  • @slowboywhiteboardv4

    @slowboywhiteboardv4

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly what I was thinking 😆

  • @navienslavement

    @navienslavement

    3 ай бұрын

    He's not nuanced and charitable pilled

  • @johnnyd2383

    @johnnyd2383

    3 ай бұрын

    Lies ought to be debunked. He is doing excellent job in exposing them.

  • @AmericanwrCymraeg
    @AmericanwrCymraeg3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this. In terms of St Ignatius "not commanding," it's worth noting that St Paul speaks in the same way in his epistle to Philemon. It's clearly a gentle, self effacing way of giving commands.

  • @csikostamas8604
    @csikostamas8604 Жыл бұрын

    Ah yeah! I've been craving new Ubi Petrus for quite some time now. Amazing work, as always.

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    Жыл бұрын

    We had wanted to have this out by early August but life got in the way. As mentioned in the Q&A for July, I will be taking the next 6 to 12 months off (for two very joyful and wonderful reasons) and am pausing payments on Patreon and SubscribeStar. I do not know when the editor will be done with the essence-energies series, but if he can get four or five episodes done, we will start releasing those regardless of whether or not it falls within the 6-12 month sabbatical.

  • @order_truth_involvement6135
    @order_truth_involvement6135 Жыл бұрын

    I don't see any exclusively "commanding" language.

  • @hippopilot6750
    @hippopilot67503 ай бұрын

    Great video. I love learning about the practicalities of the early church period. It's hard to conceive nowadays with our convenience of modern mail service.

  • @MaximusWolfe
    @MaximusWolfe3 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Ubi. Happy feast.

  • @Frankierios22
    @Frankierios223 ай бұрын

    Great in depth video 🔥🙏🏼

  • @cunjoz
    @cunjoz3 ай бұрын

    with regards to dating, Richard Carrier also argues for the pre-70 AD composition with the same reasoning.

  • @ZZZELCH
    @ZZZELCH3 ай бұрын

    What an excellent and in-depth video.

  • @matthewjorgensen1903
    @matthewjorgensen19033 ай бұрын

    What do you think of Adrian Fortescue? (8:55) I heard he didn't like Pope Pius X changing the breviary, but I also heard he did much study on the Eastern Churches (Both Uniate and Orthodox) What are your thoughts on him?☦🙏

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    He was a standard polemicist of his time and I don't find his arguments convincing.

  • @matthewjorgensen1903

    @matthewjorgensen1903

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ubipetrus3882 Yes, I read his, "The Early Papacy " and I wasn't impressed.

  • @joshf2218
    @joshf22183 ай бұрын

    “I’ve searched all the parks in all the cities and found no statues of committees”

  • @alexandregb566
    @alexandregb5662 ай бұрын

    Hello! My question is not related to the video (but I'm going to watch it thoroughly). What is the Orthodoxy interpretation of the bread and wine? Do you interpret it literally?

  • @icxcnika2037

    @icxcnika2037

    Ай бұрын

    The entire christian world interpreted it literally for the first 1500 years as well as saint Paul Himself in his epistle to the Corinthians when he warns them that if they take it without reverence, they fall sick and may even die. Symbolic bread and wine does not do that.

  • @XiHamORTHOCN
    @XiHamORTHOCN2 ай бұрын

    Ubi, what do you think about Scriptorum Press' work on St. Dionysius and the authorship of the Dionysian corpus?

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm not familiar with it.

  • @XiHamORTHOCN

    @XiHamORTHOCN

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ubipetrus3882 do you think St. Dionysius is the true author?

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    @@XiHamORTHOCN So, I have read the Dionysian corpus and have read some scholarship on it and I found their arguments convincing, primarily that no one appears to have been aware of this corpus prior to the late 5th and early 6th century. The appearance of plagiarized material within the corpus from earlier authors, in my mind, only adds to that.

  • @XiHamORTHOCN

    @XiHamORTHOCN

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ubipetrus3882 I understand, I'm no expert but I think that book mentioned is quite interesting on the subject. Thanks and all the best

  • @unusuariomas3022
    @unusuariomas30223 ай бұрын

    How would you respond to the third quote you quoted in the video? Catholic Answers has this translation: “You will afford us joy and gladness if being obedient to the things which we have written through the Holy Spirit, you will root out the wicked passion of jealousy” They are speaking *through* the Holy Spirit, how would you answer that?

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    That's answered, in detail, in the video.

  • @anyavalenty7148
    @anyavalenty71482 ай бұрын

    Hey Ubi, I was just wondering what are your thoughts on Siecenskis book about the papacy and the orthodox. Do you rate it as a good recourse for Orthodox against papalism?

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    IMHO, it's ok, it's definitely not as powerful and semi-ground breaking as his work on the Filioque and I think that is largely because, at least in my opinion, he has more or less just regurgitated the streamlined views from Roman Catholics and Anglican scholars on the Papacy. Keep in mind, both of those groups desperately need to read the Vatican I claims into the early Church: the Catholics because that is what their councils claim was the situation and the Anglicans because it justifies their break with the RCC since they can then argue the rot was so deep and so intrinsic that they were forced into joining the Reformation.

  • @anyavalenty7148

    @anyavalenty7148

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ubipetrus3882 Ok, thanks for your honest opinion, its an expensive book and I would not want to throw money on something that isn't important. What would you say is the most powerful book on the history of the papacy and disproving Vatican 1 claims in the first Millenium?

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    @@anyavalenty7148 There isn't one. If there were, I'd gladly recommend it to people so I wouldn't have to create content and could instead just get on with my life. For reading recommendations see the "Recommended Reading List" ubipetrusibiecclesia.com/?s=recommended+reading

  • @johnnyd2383
    @johnnyd23833 ай бұрын

    Vatican admitted no supremacy of Rome over Eastern sees existed in first 1000 years. Quote.... 19. Over the centuries, a number of appeals were made to the bishop of Rome, also from the East, in disciplinary matters, such as the deposition of a bishop. An attempt was made at the Synod of Sardica (343) to establish rules for such a procedure.(14) Sardica was received at the Council in Trullo (692).(15) The canons of Sardica determined that a bishop who had been condemned could appeal to the bishop of Rome, and that the latter, if he deemed it appropriate, might order a retrial, to be conducted by the bishops in the province neighbouring the bishop’s own. Appeals regarding disciplinary matters were also made to the see of Constantinople,(16) and to other sees. Such appeals to major sees were always treated in a synodical way. Appeals to the bishop of Rome from the East expressed the communion of the Church, but the BISHOP OF ROME DID NOT EXERCISE CANONICAL AUTHORITY OVER THE CHURCHES OF THE EAST. - Synodality And Primacy During The First Millennium, Chieti, 21 September 2016

  • @calson814

    @calson814

    2 ай бұрын

    You mean the Church contradict herself! Don't think so. And that quotation doesn't prove anything.

  • @johnnyd2383

    @johnnyd2383

    2 ай бұрын

    @@calson814 Document exposes yours, and Latin apologists' on this platform, wet dreams about alleged Latin's supremacy.

  • @icxcnika2037

    @icxcnika2037

    Ай бұрын

    ​@calson814 Of course it proves that the vatican admits the pope had no authority similar to the made up papal supremacy of dictatus pape in the first centuries.

  • @anyavalenty7148
    @anyavalenty71483 ай бұрын

    Hi, Orthodox here. Could you please explain to me this st Maximus quote from quastiones ad Thallasium, LXii, where he says that the holy spirit derives existence from the father through the song, and also the 1285 council of Blachernae, Tomus against Bekkos, canon 4 where the idea that the holy spirit can derive existence through the son is condemned? Appreciate your help!

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    Which works have you read in your attempt to understand this apparent contradiction?

  • @anyavalenty7148

    @anyavalenty7148

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ubipetrus3882This information is coming from a small youtuber called Dwong, who released a while back several videos on the filioque. In it, he not only claims that the council of Blachernae 1285 condemns the phrase from the father through the son, but also that saying "from the father and the son" is the same as saying "from the father through the son". Personally, I have seen another translation of QaT LXii, where Maximus says that the Holy spirit subsists from the father through the son, not exists from the father through the son. I personally have not looked to deep into this, just thought that you who obviously knows a lot about church history and language could help me out!

  • @anyavalenty7148

    @anyavalenty7148

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ubipetrus3882 Hey Ubi, this is coming from a small Catholic youtuber called Dwong, who released a video on how the church fathers supported and believed in the filioque. I have read another translation of the St Maximos passage where he says that the Holy spirit SUBSISTS from the father through the son, not exists. Personally, I feel that contingency does not equal causality which is what Gregory Palamas defended in the Council against Bekkos. I am asking your opinion because you obviously know a lot about History and language, and could possibly help me out against the catholic quote miners!

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    @@anyavalenty7148 Which translation did you read and which one did Dwong quote from?

  • @anyavalenty7148

    @anyavalenty7148

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ubipetrus3882 I don't actually know what translation Dwong used (he did not reference), and the translation which I got was from Craig Trugulia's response video to Dwong. I don't really know where to get a variety of translations for these things without paying. I hope that you will one day write an article or make a video about the Filioque, with regards to debunking many catholic claims about the Church father and language. For example, Scholast answers christian wagner released a video where he calls St gregory the theologians oration 34 (the son has everything from the father but causality) that it is a forgery. I would definitely subscribe to patreon for a video on the Filioque.

  • @ethanstrunk7698
    @ethanstrunk76983 ай бұрын

    This one should be easy

  • @InnocentAlaska
    @InnocentAlaska3 ай бұрын

    Please write a book Ubi! Would be an honor to have your apologetic works in my library !

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    There are much better authors than me, I would rather simply refer people to their works.

  • @dewd9327

    @dewd9327

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ubipetrus3882 if you could that would be a great boon indeed

  • @myredeemerliveth83
    @myredeemerliveth832 ай бұрын

    What's the intro music's name?

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    In honor of someone asking this for probably the 200th time in three years: twitter.com/UbiPetrus2019/status/1788401311924564096

  • @myredeemerliveth83

    @myredeemerliveth83

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ubipetrus3882 Thnx mate. Wait, really? Damn, it sounds amazing tho.

  • @TruthBeTold7
    @TruthBeTold72 ай бұрын

    Did you see Peter Dimond's recent video on Pope Vigilius? Please make a video response, and mention in your video your challenge to debate Peter. Thanks.

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    I haven't seen it, I really don't keep up with the endless tide of videos unless informed and, to be entirely honest, I prefer doing research and writing articles rather than spending 75-150 hours creating a video people will listen to in the background while on Discord.

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    @@icxcnika2037

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    @@icxcnika2037

  • @TruthBeTold7

    @TruthBeTold7

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ubipetrus3882 It's an overstatement and generalization for ICXC to claim that Roman Catholics know "absolutely" nothing about Church history. I know many Roman Catholics who know a lot about Church history. All one has to do, for example, is read John Collorafi's book on the first eight centuries of the Church to know that he has great knowledge of Church history.

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TruthBeTold7 I can't see ICXC's comments .

  • @laeshaunhanson1256
    @laeshaunhanson12563 ай бұрын

    Hi, ubi petrus. It's a great video as always. I have a question. Concerning St john of damascus, catholics claim he had papal view of St. peter authority. And they show quotes that apparently prove this in his homily of the transfiguration. Is this true? Or they just cherry-picking the verse out of context?

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    Please post said quotations here with citations and see what people say. If all of the citations come from Migne (i.e. Patrologia Latina or Patrologia Graeca) or Mansi, it's likely you're receiving the full context so I would only trust quotations that come from translations of entire works.

  • @laeshaunhanson1256

    @laeshaunhanson1256

    3 ай бұрын

    @ubipetrus3882 A "But why did He [jesus] take along Peter and James and John? Peter, because he wanted to show him that the witness, which he [Peter] had truly borne, was now confirmed Oou by the witness of the Father, and to make credible His [i.e. Jesus] own statement that the heavenly Father had revealed this to him [i.e. Peter]; and because as president he was also receiving the oars of the entire Church - St. John of Damascus, Homily on the Transfiguration #9; J.P. Migne, Patrologia Graeca, 96:560

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    @@laeshaunhanson1256 1) How did I know this would come from Migne and not a work translated as a whole and therefore the context could be deciphered? 2) Please fix the typos in that quotation. 3) What is a president?

  • @laeshaunhanson1256

    @laeshaunhanson1256

    3 ай бұрын

    @ubipetrus3882 that's the thing, I can't find any original source concerning where these quotes actually come from. They're just from papist and Catholic websites. I copied the text from screenshots, I don't know if you have a discord where I could talk to you about it in more detail.

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    ​ @laeshaunhanson1256 If I spoke to you "in more detail", I would have to speak to everyone else "in more detail" and if I did that, I wouldn't have time for my children, for my wife, for church, for work, for prayer etc. because hordes of angst-ridden young men between 16 and 25 are always contacting me on social media accounts with requests for "just this one quotation" all the way up to several dozen to be debunked (as if I'm some sort of vending machine for shotgun answers and have three or four hours just laying around) so sure, I could research this for you and provide a well thought out answer based in the most recent scholarship and could even translate the letter itself in toto but where is the time for that? Here's the other thing: once you debunk one...there's 20 more and the person who asked you initially is an even greater nervous wreck and is even more dependant on you to give them that shotgun answer that will sate their anxiety (which the first one was supposed to do but, of course, didn't) so instead, I've tried to teach people to fish instead of giving them fish and the videos are really just a taster platter instead of a place to find all of the answers you need. If you watch these videos and don't dive into the literature, then I've failed in my mission and might as well delete all of the videos. So in an effort to teach you how to fish, what you think is the next step in answering your initial question? (hint: it's in the #1 in my reply to you).

  • @AdithiaKusno
    @AdithiaKusno3 ай бұрын

    Can you do book review on Michael Lofton and Erick Ybarra?

  • @primuspilushb

    @primuspilushb

    3 ай бұрын

    Ubi did one of Ybarra's book. Lofton's book is so silly as to not be serious.

  • @blockpartyvintage1568

    @blockpartyvintage1568

    3 ай бұрын

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  • @AdithiaKusno

    @AdithiaKusno

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@primuspilushb how about a comedic review then to make people burst laughing?

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@AdithiaKusno This is a great example of why I do not plan on making further videos but rather plan on keeping it to articles: people don't pay attention to audio material. Just three months ago, we released a video that began the response to Ybarra's book and in it, we stated we would be touching on Lofton's book, too.

  • @sotiristserepis8169
    @sotiristserepis81692 ай бұрын

    PLEASE make a video about the "true" orthodox

  • @JackjackTheThird
    @JackjackTheThird3 ай бұрын

    Supreme and Absolute are very different. That’s why a title for the pope is supreme pontiff not absolute. Only the Holy Trinity and Christ is absolute.

  • @MaximusWolfe

    @MaximusWolfe

    3 ай бұрын

    lol Vatican I disagrees

  • @Casey-cs5pu
    @Casey-cs5pu3 ай бұрын

    The filioque and divine simplicity prove papal authority since the eastern churches clearly get these wrong

  • @Casey-cs5pu

    @Casey-cs5pu

    3 ай бұрын

    I mean, you just have to watch militant thomist absolutely destroy the eastern position with his arguments to see that

  • @hxplxss1835

    @hxplxss1835

    3 ай бұрын

    The Filioque is so blatantly false

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Casey-cs5pu I've watched his videos and didn't find them convincing but since you are the one asserting, can you demonstrate you understood the material by actually regugitate a summary of what he argued for?

  • @navienslavement

    @navienslavement

    3 ай бұрын

    Papist trooper

  • @Sk3p5ik

    @Sk3p5ik

    3 ай бұрын

    the filioque subordinates the Spirit and breaks the Trinity, you forgot a "dis-" before "prove"

  • @samsnitzer2573
    @samsnitzer25733 ай бұрын

    There is some talk in talmudic commentaries that jews continued offering sacrifices for some time AFTER the temple's destruction

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    I vaguely recall hearing that years and years ago. Do you have citations and or links?

  • @fizzmaister
    @fizzmaister3 ай бұрын

    Semper Ubi Sub Ubi

  • @Adeptus_Mechanicus
    @Adeptus_Mechanicus3 ай бұрын

    Is it odd my Orthodox Church has an Organ? I do quite like it. But is it sinful?

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    Of course not, it's just poor tastes.

  • @andys3035

    @andys3035

    3 ай бұрын

    That's crazy. An organ being sinful? That's going a bit too far and I'm Orthodox.

  • @slowboywhiteboardv4

    @slowboywhiteboardv4

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@ubipetrus3882 organ music can be quite moving if you grew up with it, but it's an almost extinct form of music

  • @iakov1906

    @iakov1906

    3 ай бұрын

    Musical instruments are a creation of Cane and his offspring. God allowed their usage in the Old Testament, but in the new covenant when man is deified and sitting at the right hand of God the Father the people ought to only use voice during the services. It's usually a sign of American Greek liberalism, frankly. If you're not attached to that parish, I'd suggest finding another

  • @andys3035

    @andys3035

    3 ай бұрын

    @@iakov1906 Greek liberalism? An organ is being liberal? That is no reason whatsoever to leave a canonical church.

  • @dylanschweitzer18
    @dylanschweitzer183 ай бұрын

    Answer: Yes 🥰 bUt iT dOeSnT gEt u vAtIcAn I

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    3 ай бұрын

    How do you prove the modern papacy without proving Vatican I?

  • @chrislucastheprotestantview

    @chrislucastheprotestantview

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@ubipetrus3882 I don't think they will ever answer

  • @hxplxss1835

    @hxplxss1835

    3 ай бұрын

    @@chrislucastheprotestantview They can't, they just make snide remarks because they think it is an own

  • @marpl7511
    @marpl75112 ай бұрын

    William and James refuted you , i suggest taking this down. Embarrassing 😂😂

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    Can you, with time stamps and explanations, show exactly where they did the supposed refuting of points in our video (also with time stamps and explanations) so we have proof you are not just cope-urbating here?

  • @juniper-ug3hs

    @juniper-ug3hs

    2 ай бұрын

    They accused you of rambling and your video to be boring, saying it takes you 9 minutes to make a point. In six minutes, you are already quoting the epistle. It takes them 20 minutes before they start actually quoting a church father, not just summarizing and bloviating the catholic position. They also dismissed many of your arguments. I'm trying to watch their stream but they are refuting your 1 hour video with 4 two hour streams and yet accuse you of rambling. But to be fair the only point made in the first 15 minutes was by James who said he thought it was crazy that you brought up st. Ignatius since his predecessor was selected by St. Peter. But the thought that jumped out to me was that doesn't that prove even more that he fathers didn't see the Pertrine See as the ultimate authority? Since ignatius asked polycarp to choose his successor?

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    @@juniper-ug3hs How would that even be a valid counter-argument?

  • @juniper-ug3hs

    @juniper-ug3hs

    2 ай бұрын

    @ubipetrus3882 I'm making my way through it slowly. Their first source is an epitaph of st. Damasus, which I didn't find to be particularly convincing. The second is quoting St.Optatus in against the donatisits, which is something I would be interested in hearing an EO position on. However, it takes them so long for them to get to the meat of the argument I find it hard to sit through the slog.

  • @ubipetrus3882

    @ubipetrus3882

    2 ай бұрын

    @@juniper-ug3hs It's definitely a massive slog but it appears most, if not all of their material is a poorly regurgitated smash and grab from Erick Ybarra's book meaning that once the response to Ybarra's book is completed, that would cover the response to William Albrecht. That being said, the open debate challenge I issued him four years ago is still open and he comes and goes on whether he will take it - most lately he is claiming the debate must be on his channel and cannot have a moderator (which, if you're planning on shouting down your interlocutor, interrupting them, turning off their microphone, and planning on doxing them, then you would definitely would not want a moderator). As far as St. Optatus, I strongly recommend reading the paper linked below by the RC priest and scholar Fr. Robert Eno. In it, he argues the ecclesiology of a pre-Montanist Tertullian, St. Cyprian, St. Optatus, and St. Augustine was essentially identical and definitely not a Vatican I ecclesiology. ubipetrusibiecclesia.com/2024/01/22/the-work-of-optatus-as-a-turning-point-in-the-african-ecclesiology-fr-robert-eno/ Let me know what you think when you're done reading it.

  • @11-AisexualsforGod-11
    @11-AisexualsforGod-113 ай бұрын

    You will never be more clever then my Pope.. sorry calvinist

  • @arabniga

    @arabniga

    3 ай бұрын

    How's he a Calvinist?

  • @MaximusWolfe

    @MaximusWolfe

    3 ай бұрын

    “God is warlord cannibal, out to contain the many with in the one.” - your description of self Uh, you need to stick to your meds, bud.

  • @colvinator1611
    @colvinator16113 ай бұрын

    There is no pope in my King James Bible. ALL born again followers of the Lord Jesus Christ are saints. You can't be a catholic and a Christian. You're one or the other.

  • @zeektm1762

    @zeektm1762

    3 ай бұрын

    Sola scriptura is not a biblical doctrine either, so it doesn’t really matter if that word is absent.

  • @hippopilot6750

    @hippopilot6750

    3 ай бұрын

    The new testament wasn't written down at the start of Christ's Church. What was the authority then to have the correct faith and understanding in Christ? The Apostolic Catholic Church. Eastern Orthodoxy is its true form.

  • @colvinator1611

    @colvinator1611

    3 ай бұрын

    @hippopilot6750 You won't understand the truth because you're lost and don't have the indwelling Holy Ghost. Just go back to your unbiblical priest and listen to his heresies and lies.

  • @hippopilot6750

    @hippopilot6750

    3 ай бұрын

    @@colvinator1611 Your precious king James bible also uses the masorectic text which was not kept by Christians but Jews against Christianity and only dated back to the middle ages. Meanwhile Orthodoxy has their canon from the Greek Septuagint, dated before Christ's coming and used by the apostles and many church fathers themselves.

  • @hippopilot6750

    @hippopilot6750

    3 ай бұрын

    The Latin Vulgate and the Syriac Peshitta were also Christian preservations and Orthodox.

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