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@jesseberg3271

7 ай бұрын

I want to say that I appreciate the respectful and poetic tone towards the Olympians in this piece. There's a tendency among some KZread history channels to need to be mocking and dismissive of some or all of the religious beliefs of the subjects of their studies. No, I don't believe in Zeus, or Ares, or any of the rest. But most ancient Greeks did, and it's rarely productive for Historians to mock the subjects of their work.

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

@@jesseberg3271 thing is, Greeks themselves mocked their gods all the time. We shouldn't perceive Greek religious beliefs the same way we see modern religions, especially orthodox Abrahamic ones.

@idiidi2275

7 ай бұрын

I want to translate your videos in my language, will you approve it >? @@KingsandGenerals

@TvGunslingeRvT

7 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals Please make a video about Armenia Azerbaijan Nagorno Karabakh war.

@pascalyung1406

7 ай бұрын

Somebody please help! Does anyone know the name of the background music at 26:10 of K&G's Alexander Balkan Campaign video? Link here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/haKYuc6SmpzggbA.html

Your content lads should become the standard way of teaching history at schools, it cant get any more interesting or colourful than that, totally grand! 3 hours of ancient Greek history, for free, I mean, what else do you want? You guys are Kings indeed, thank you!

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@nessie9709

7 ай бұрын

Well, perhaps some cited sources might do fine.

@matthewriffel188

7 ай бұрын

There would be value in incorporating more of this. But reading and primary sources are still important. Keeping attention and engagement is great, but we can’t overemphasize it and we often do for students these days. Still important to read, memorize, analyze the value of a source critically, and do the boring work of learning.

@sangweeni304

7 ай бұрын

It kinda is in colleges and AP courses but it depends on the state! Also most school neglect history in general for STEM which is a shame.

@legkol9682

7 ай бұрын

​@@matthewriffel188 Absolutely Matt! I am a keen student of history books myself, Thucydides n the rest of the gang will always remain the grandmasters of storytelling, the original books are irreplaceable no doubt, but in order to get there one needs to get introduced to the subject first. And in most classes thats where the problem lies. Having teachers or professors that just bluntly read lines off some books, over n over again, boring most of the times even themselves to death, does nothing but have everyone jump overboard in the end. Using such well researched videos or other real-time projections of the stories in question to support a lesson or lecture would make these tales come alive and work wonders in terms of student attendance methinks (visiting the places where everything happened would also be a thrilling experience for the students, but not all of them live in Greece unfortunately). So yeah, thats what I meant, we live in a digital age where most things online are either sex or product related, stupid pointless (but sadly addicting) stuff anyway. And they are addicting because they stimulate peoples minds. So, why not incorporate such videos in our classes as well, and help stimulate the students interest n imagination and bring more of them on board this thrilling adventure in the long term? I mean, Total War alone has made an entire generation more passionate about history than all the other means combined! Thats good, right?

As a Greek city-state myself this series was enlightening

@kleinenfuchse5365

7 ай бұрын

You are a greek city-state? Now that's awesome news.

@JoaoVitor-is4zb

7 ай бұрын

You are a greek city-state? You are the missing Sparta?

@wesselstolze9555

7 ай бұрын

how many phalanxes do you field?

@kleinenfuchse5365

7 ай бұрын

I'm a roman province btw

@Dany94256

6 ай бұрын

Is your city state interested in joining the League of Delphi? If not, know that you will join anywhere.

I know a lot of people love Roman and Medieval history, but I can't get enough of Ancient Greece. From the Bronze Age all the way up through Macedonia having chances to repel Rome but then making enormous mistakes. I just love this part of the world!

@tigerwoods373

7 ай бұрын

I enjoy Greek history but my favorite would go to the napoleonic era. So much happens in 20 years only rivaled by ww2. Plus you have one of the best army commanders of all time, maybe even the best.

@Tuke932

6 ай бұрын

Greek is just so interesting because of the effects it has had on basically everything in Western history. It was the cornerstone for every major democracy in one way or another.

@Thor-Orion

6 ай бұрын

@@tigerwoods373Gottfried? Because Napoleon is super overrated, he took advantage of antiquated militaries in Europe. Agrippa towers over Napoleon, as do a great many generals all throughout history from antiquity to the modern era. Nimitz is fantastic if you’re looking for naval strategy, Ferdinand II retaking Spain is a pretty important campaign that while not perfect in strategy ultimately proved he and Isabella to be effective leaders and then they promptly conquer the entire western hemisphere, so I’d put their reign as more significant in history than Napoleon’s, who while intent on destroying all of Europe beneath a black powder mausoleum, ultimately failed twice.

@farlesbarkley1022

6 ай бұрын

@@Thor-Orion He clearly said "army commander" so for that and other reasons Nimitz is clearly not in this discussion. Being the best army commander doesn't hinge on the importance of a particular campaign, nor does completely different people then going on to colonize other continents after. Basically none of the things you listed have any effect on how great of an army commander a person was

@Thor-Orion

6 ай бұрын

@@farlesbarkley1022 oh so you just don’t know who Agrippa is then? But your criteria is absolutely ridiculous, he said “possibly the best general ever” that means EVER not limited to just prior to him, not did Napoleon have the long term success indicative of an unparalleled general. But either way, just playing by your rules Von Blucher is superior, considering he kicked his ass twice (Leipzig and Waterloo) once with far numerically inferior forces. Then you’ve got Arminius stopping the Roman legions from conquering Europe by wiping out three full legions with a tiny force of poorly trained tribesman (with the exception of his personal Calvary unit who was Roman trained alongside Arminius). Totila made his entire career off of embarrassing the greatest world power of his era, only finally being defeated when he was killed at 60-odd years old while still leading his army from the front. Theodoric stopped Atilla. Alexander the Great conquered the planet. Ptolemy won every single war in the Diadochi Wars. Constantine saved the crumbling empire and reinvigorated it, making it last several more hundred years. Cyrus the Great conquered a ton of territory and set up the Persian Empire. Suppiluliuma I became the most powerful ruler in the known world at the time and defeated MAJOR powers around him, such as Egypt, Babylonia, Mitanni, and took all of the territory of Canaan from previously mentioned Egyptians. Not a single one of these generals were ever embarrassed like Napoleon in Russia, or at Leipzig, or at Waterloo.

One hour into the video I realised I was listening to it as a podcast while cooking and still maintaining a crystal clear picture of all the movements on the map. It's astonishing how the same city names (and the cities themselves) have survived over two and a half millennia.

@tigerwoods373

7 ай бұрын

I just have difficulty remembering names. It took me months to learn my own coworkers names and many i still don't know. So whenever they bring up new ones it confuses the hell out me.

That's the most integral and accurate lecture of the incredibly complex piece of ancient history i've ever seen ❤ thank you, Kings &Generals! Well done! 👏

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ptolemyphilopator

3 ай бұрын

Well done indeed!!! You guys are absolutely amazing!!

I’m a simple man, I see a long kings and generals documentary, I drop everything and watch

@brucknerian9664

2 ай бұрын

We're all simple. History is too much to be exhausted, it exhausts me instead.

Probably the the best known and definitive example that history is not always written by the winners.

@MrNiceGuyHistory

2 ай бұрын

History is written by the survivors.

@mattverville9227

Ай бұрын

history is written by the writers

I had a blast watching this series! I can’t wait for the Greco-Persian Wars!

@belialord

7 ай бұрын

You don't have to wait, they have already happened a long time ago

@iexist3919

7 ай бұрын

@@belialordyou know what I mean

@nuclear9977

3 ай бұрын

@@iexist3919bruh 😊

Admittedly, when I was growing up, I thought of Athens as the 'good guys' because of course the democracy had to be the good guys, right? Honestly was shocked later in life to realize how utterly tyrannical they were - not that the Spartans were a ton better, but still. Amazing video, guys!

@AkkaAlbatros

6 ай бұрын

just imagine the athenians as todays america.

@apilolomi4354

6 ай бұрын

@@AkkaAlbatros Not remotely comparable.

@Thor-Orion

6 ай бұрын

@@apilolomi4354yeah they are. You can compare them in lots of ways. Are they alike? Eh, people can decide that for themselves.

@Blisterdude123

5 ай бұрын

@@apilolomi4354 Entirely comparable.

@goldenshoggoth2143

5 ай бұрын

Why not? If your going to disagree atleast post more beyond "Nuh uh!" @@apilolomi4354

By far the most accurate and deliberate pronunciation of Hellenic words and names, especially the tones. Well done, it's rather rare. Thank you for putting in the effort😊

One of my favorite periods of history, thanks for covering guys

This was amazing! I would love to see a video on Plato and Socrates and the context of their interactions and impact on their work since they were both alive and Socrates was executed during the Pelopponesian Wars.

@FRESSY22

7 ай бұрын

Moreover, if Plato was not inventing, of course, Socrates was a teacher for both Alcibiades and Critius, the latter became an infamous bloody tyrant after the Athenian defeat.

@elifriedman8812

7 ай бұрын

@@FRESSY22 Interesting. I would love to see both Plato and Socrates being discussed in the actual context in which they lived

@DemetriusRenatus

7 ай бұрын

Socrates was executed in 399 BC, while Peloponissian War ended in 404 BC

@toastedt140

6 ай бұрын

​@DemetriusRenatus There's some debate among scholars that the true impetus behind Socrates punishment was his support for the Thirty Tyrants and the end of athenian democracy. This course of events directly resulted from the end of Peloponnesian War.

@Thor-Orion

6 ай бұрын

Socrates served in the earlier Peloponnesian Wars. Again, according to Playdough. (Edit: yes, I do know his name isn’t actually spelled that way, but I like to imagine him as a red-tinted monstrosity constructed by a child in early development.)

I used to not know much of this conflict as a kid, but since playing Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, I’ve learned a lot more about it, especially the first half of the war.

@TK-rz6ni

6 ай бұрын

Had a similar experience to this when I was in high school. Was taking US History while also playing Assassin’s Creed 3. It was kind of cool to recognize some of the historical events in the game from my history class.

@alphagamer9505

5 ай бұрын

​@@TK-rz6niI also had a similar experience, I was learning French revolution in school while playing Unity

The best quote of the video: 'Sparta itself claimed to be a liberator of Hellas from the Athenian imperialism,a short of Defender of the Free World, meanwhile Athens proclaimed itself to be the Defender of Democracy against repressive Oligarchies' Can you make any comparison to today???

The two quotes at the end really encapsulate everything there is to know about wars and geopolitics. Euripides and Giorgos Seferis are fantastic in their prose.

Dear God. This channel is dropping three hour legendary videos on everything from the history of Britain to now this. I cannot handle this level of content

@JerryThomas-xc7ur

Ай бұрын

Is your comment good or bad?

@joenichols3901

Ай бұрын

@@JerryThomas-xc7ur its bad - I need to work but how can I with content like this available

Oh yeah! My boring Sunday just turned into an awesome Funday. I'll be here all night, folks. On a serious note, seeing this major accomplishment all together in a 3 hour video is a remarkable feat. I don't know how many people are out there that can appreciate how difficult the Peloponnesian War is to untangle and tell. My thanks to Thucydides for his contribution and his unmatched genius, and shout-out to Xenophon as well. He was no Thucydides, but if he didn't pick up where Thucydides left off, we wouldn't have an ending to this horrific story. I can say, great job by the crew that put this together, even before watching it as a whole, because the pieces made so far have been a real treat. Thank you!

I wonder if the Persians had itchy fingers to launch another full scale invasion of Greece during all this, taking advantage of all the infighting? I guess they had their reasons not to.

@shadowborn1456

7 ай бұрын

Why invade when there was Sparta do the whole work

@Leo-ok3uj

7 ай бұрын

They were probably aware that if they attacked Athens and Sparta would stop fighting between themselves

@rudolfambrozenvtuber

6 ай бұрын

At the time, an empire as big as Persia wasn't really even capable of doing anything like that on short notice

I have question. Are you guys planning a series on the Greco-Presian wars.

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

Yep, it is being written right now

@DrKarmo

7 ай бұрын

​@@KingsandGeneralswill it be available to the public or a members exclusive first?

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

@@DrKarmo member exclusive probably

@DrKarmo

7 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals ah, shame Well, i can wait for it to come out! Keep up the good work y'all (no more joining the dark side)!

@KingsandGenerals

6 ай бұрын

@@constantinexii8182 that is just not true. You are getting 3-5 videos for free every week.

I've already watched all the episodes! But man I can't skip a good 3 hr documentary

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! However, there is 30 minutes of new content if you are a member and 50 minutes if you are not

@Kili2807

7 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGeneralsWhat do you mean by that? Are the public videos about the Peloponnesian War shorter than the member exclusive ones?

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

@@Kili2807 no. But there is 30 minutes of new content for everyone, while the last episode was not released to the public and is part of this one

@Kili2807

7 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals now I get it. Nice that you included the Phyle Campaign as well.

@Kili2807

7 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals although I find it a bit of a shame that the playlist of the individual episodes is never completed

I love it when this channel does the long documentary versions of their battles by compiling them all together into a single video.

Kings and Generals time and time again showcasing why they are the GOAT

Not gonna lie, most of history I have learned, I didnt learned it at school, I learned from documentaries of this kind. Thank you guys.

@samueljohnston1043

7 ай бұрын

Same here, I will never forget my secondary school history teacher taught me and my class that Alexander was a Roman general 🤦 tbf to her she was also an alcoholic

thank you for videos like these, I know it requires so much effort and work; and just know that so many people really appreciate the work you do. this is the creme de la creme of history videos, couldn’t ask for a more comprehensive video.

Thanks for covering the primary sources. I'm always amazed that ancient people went into this much detail.

@wesselstolze9555

7 ай бұрын

you know about the korean scribe story?

This is even better than the original by Thucydides

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

Unlikely, but thank you :-)

@sethgaston8347

7 ай бұрын

Ignorance is bold, and knowledge preserved 😤

@mpaulm

7 ай бұрын

Clearly you haven’t read it.😏

@Anglomachian

7 ай бұрын

Having read Thucydides, I wouldn’t go that far. But it is one of the better visual summations I’ve seen.

@matthewryan7775

7 ай бұрын

He didn't have access to Adobe so yeah

The events we are currently seeing in the western world cannot be fully understood without 1st studying events such as this one.

@chasechristophermurraydola9314

7 ай бұрын

That’s a very great point.

I have played your previous videos about this for the last 3 weeks. Legendary upload.

absolutely amazing as usual, i would recommend covering the war of the Spanish succession or the seven years war. huge and important but forgotten wars. keep up the stunning work!

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

It is on our list

@chasechristophermurraydola9314

7 ай бұрын

Chezburger1781 don’t forget about the war of Austrian succession since that war was also huge, important and is forgotten and it was important because it was the first major military combat for Fredrick the great but it was also important since it saw the end of the Jacobite rebellions but on the diplomatically level it is important because of a realignment known as the Diplomatic revolution which saw Austria and france end their rivalry and put aside their differences and issues to become allies against their enemies Great Britain, and Prussia and it also saw the signing of an alliance between Great Britain and Prussia and it was these changes and alliances that set the scene and stage for the outbreak of the seven years war in 1756.

@chezburger1781

7 ай бұрын

@@chasechristophermurraydola9314 yep

@chezburger1781

7 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals you'd do it best!

@peterkrarup9222

7 ай бұрын

@KingsandGenerals, 1870-71 Franco-Prussian war, obviously including the siege of Paris?

I'm delighted to know the real life incident of geopolitical atmosphere what has been presented in Assassins Creed Odyssey. The Greek islands are so beautiful. I hope to visit them myself in future

@Thor-Orion

6 ай бұрын

I think we all want to get out on the Mediterranean and see the sites of classical antiquity.

Oh my god, this is incredible. I admire you guys so much for both your passion and technical skills. I'd much rather learn about history from your videos than a boring lecture.

Love the job you did here! Definitely going to have to watch it a few times as the amount of material covered is a bit mind boggling.

i absolutely loved this! I was in my Classics class and this video literally helped me passed my test. it was so hard to understand this but the video helped drastically!

Classic example of a war so bloody and drawn out that the real winners were the ones that weren't really fighting! Neither Athens or Sparta were ever able to recover to the strength they had prior to the war, meanwhile Thebes, Macedon and of course Persia were the true beneficiaries.

Thanks for another awesome video, your guys stuff is absolutely amazing and I can never get enough.. history guys making history videos for history buffs… and 3 hour videos? Get the f out of here, love it.. keep up the great work guys!

A three hour video from Kings & Generals?!? 😮 I won't be able to watch it all in one go, but I can't wait to get through it all in a day or two!

As someone who has to deal with ancient history at university, I thank you for your content, I'd be fucked without it

Great stuff! Can't wait to see the whole of the Punic Wars and the other wars of Antiquity that you cover! Truly great content. I hope you cover all the wars of ancient Greco-Roman history.

A very important piece of history which everyone should exploit for themselves, thanks to kings and generals for making this great content.

I was just starting to dive into this time period and what happens? You drop the exact video i wanted...TODAY! Amazing timing cant wait to get into these

Bravo. This chronical was nothing short of amazing.

An eagles 🦅 eye view of the what could be called the first “World War” of the Greek world. From start to finish. Awesome

Woohoo, another long full documentry. Great to listen to while at work!

Stumbling across this channel and video and hearing offy D talking about ancient Greece was a massive throwback to tails of massalia

Athens gains made it ambitious, ignoring any stoicism that its thinkers had warned, thus an age of hell in the ancient world and eventually lost to time.

Another great series! thank you KnG!

Yes the mega compilation has arrived! Thank you to the entire Kings and Generals team!

Comparing ancient and modern, greeks is more united now because they using only 1 Hellenic dialect language wich is the attican Athenian dialect. When the Hellenic kingdom of Macedonia conquered the city states, Alexander the great proclaimed attican Athenian dialect as language (koine greek )of all Hellenics kingdoms and his empire and successors. This trend used until Roman empire period, east roman/byzantine roman empire period, and now current greece

Greek war was bloody. Learnt so much. Thanks K & G

Dude, you are absolutely spectacular. A 3 hour documentary on the Peloponnesian War. What else could i have asked? Hahaha.

You're a blessing for the history loving community for making these videos

one of the best history channels i've seen in all my life

2:00:03 Yeah, Imma have to agree with Phrynichos. I doubt Persia ever had Athenian interests at heart!

A video with a lot of passion and meaning. thank you

Such a great channel, I can't wait to check this one out

I remember this part with the shields in aigos potamoi. We were translating the ancient script to modern greek back in high school. Off course it had more details on the masacre in aigos potamoi.Anyway amazing video.

Thank you kings and generals ❤

Wow, literally perfect timing. I'm about to begin a longer cardio session and this is such a perfect fit lol. Love your work, Kings and Generals! It's made me very passionate about history and learning more, our past is so interesting :)

I have venn following uou since the beginning i love the content... made me love history even more ❤

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH KINGS AND GENERALS I HAD SO MUCH HOPE YOU'D MAKE THE PELLEPONESIAN WAR A FULL EPISODE,HAHAHA I LOVE WHEN YOU COMBINE VIDS INTO 1 HOUR++

Really great job guys ! Loved it , thanks

I love to see such great content that unfortunately isn’t too much on KZread about this conflict, as somebody who read Tucidides, congratulations

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

1:24:02 - It's the year 420 BC. Boeotia: "BLAZE IT!"

Man I love some peloponnesian wars in the morning

It took less than 3 years of fighting for us Greeks to defeat the Persian Empire, but almost 30 years of fighting for our two biggest cities of the time to settle their differences....

Thanks,Amazingly Informative video compilation❤❤

One of the best documentaries on channel so far!

Kings and generals always delivers the goods 👏 😊

What great saga this is... Good work team, appreciating very much

Much better than watching all the episodes one after another

This truly made my day, hell it made my whole week 👍

I am literally writing my Ancient European midterm paper right now. The topic is on Aristophanes' plays and what they said about the Peloponnesian War. Goot timing!

Great series. So many interesting videos on this channel.

What a fantastic documentary. Thank you...

3 things are certain in life, tax, death, and greeks fighting each other.

History is so interesting. Fascinating to think that had Athens won a total victory, they could’ve possibly been the ones to create a United Greece instead of Phillip of Macedon. Would be interesting how much history would’ve been drastically changed had certain events gone differently. Would Persia had fallen? Would the geeks just reclaim Anatolia and leave the Persian empire to survive elsewhere? Would the huge naval might of Athens made colonization and expansion more effective and would this have snuffed out romes imperial desires and it instead be the Greeks creating a Mediterranean empure?? Would Athens have allied with the samnites or etruscans, giving them the edge to dominate Italy instead of Rome. Would we have seen a Samnite empure? Crazy to think. Or maybe nothing would’ve changed in the long run. Idk.

Nice video thank you so much

Oh boy, it's time to watch another several hour documentary by Kings and Generals

'This is exactly what ive been waiting for' 🔥🔥🔥

God bless you for putting subtitles

I really appreciate the amount of detail put into this.History is much more complicated than people realize, or how it is made out to be . I can’t stand how history is over simplified; especially for the sake of some sort of agenda/narrative.

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

Damn this was a lot. Well done 👏 !!!

This was so awsome! LOVE IT

Greatest history channel ever

Now i understand The history of the Peloponnesian War more then i ever had, and thank you for that?

Wow great work!

Absolutely brilliant as always

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Outstanding job

Athena goddess of strategy and wisdom, also seems to be goddess of a ruthless expansionists city-state. You would think that would be Sparta given their warrior reputation.

@skylinelover9276

7 ай бұрын

Just like USA

It's only me or it seems like the final single video was not uploaded?

@KingsandGenerals

7 ай бұрын

It is at the end of this video, in addition to 30 minutes of other content throughout the video and mistake fixes

As always amazing details! When I cover this topic in my survey course I only spend about 30 minutes on it, and mainly focus on the accounts from Thucydides.

This is the most confusing war I have ever watched.

Too bad I have no money for the “members only” to watch each weekly video. Thanks uploading the entire series in one video.

I really enjoy your documentaries thank you 👍

Imagine a war that lasted multiple generations to simply hurt Greece even more and made them more vulnerable when Phillip the second invaded the rest of Greece..

Athens -- Let's keep dominating, bullying, and committing atrocities on the neighbors. Hey, the neighbors keep rebelling, and signing up with Sparta. What's up with that?"

This is really eye opening

Kings and Generals is the absolute GOAT for this! Thank you!!