Class Changes / Philosophy Adjustment - The War Within

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WoW's gameplay is changing forever. Find out how in this video.

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  • @austingore4248
    @austingore424816 күн бұрын

    Hello, Supa. If you read this, please know I've been a long time viewer and sub on your twitch, but I keep my youtube and twitch anonymous. I discovered you in Legion when I couldn't find many boomy players making content. You have brightened my day and kept me interested in this game through the good and the bad. I've watched your weight loss and was inspired to do the same (I've lost 70 lbs in 6 months through a TON of cardio and very little calorie consumption). Anyways, I just wanted to say, thank you for what you do. Content creation and shout casting, you are the best. Continue to put in the grind, because many of us appreciate you.

  • @scottfriedman5208

    @scottfriedman5208

    16 күн бұрын

    Holy shit I just went and looked at video from 7 years ago… congrats to you Supa, big big thumbs up to you losing all that weight and being a healthier human! Anyway, when you making that TWW PvP tier list??

  • @semi6544
    @semi654417 күн бұрын

    Great now even Paladin can spread dots easier than Shaman.

  • @ARGOS-THOR
    @ARGOS-THOR17 күн бұрын

    2 videos within twelve hours? One might think supadupatease is excited for tww =']

  • @Bigalwarrior
    @Bigalwarrior17 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the update

  • @maryfrancis3
    @maryfrancis317 күн бұрын

    Thanks so much for the info 🙂

  • @alejandrob9219
    @alejandrob921916 күн бұрын

    One question What Happen with the Talent of FuryWarrior 'Annihilator' We'll have in WarWithin? :/

  • @pichborithkong6797
    @pichborithkong679716 күн бұрын

    As a mid or lower healer, I love sustain heal, busty heal is ok in M+ but in raid sometime I just healing full hp raid, it boring. Not all healer know everything going on in raid and planing ahead all the time.

  • @rosemorningstar5368
    @rosemorningstar536816 күн бұрын

    Wow Arcane has been so shafted ever since the chrono shift removal. The hits keep coming.

  • @tomothered
    @tomothered16 күн бұрын

    Do we think this is gonna make pvp feel a bit more like old school pvp?

  • @jonathancham7788
    @jonathancham778816 күн бұрын

    thanks supa~

  • @Brosak.
    @Brosak.17 күн бұрын

    How bad is arcane mage now compared to DF s2? Thats last time i played. And im new to the game 😅so will play it anyway

  • @Kuskash
    @Kuskash17 күн бұрын

    adjust the pvp trinket bonuses to be more in line with the new wacky hp pools.

  • @Kurnhelios
    @Kurnhelios17 күн бұрын

    Excited for this change in pace for game play, expecting to see the rise of rot comps in arena, and maybe even RBG's after these changes and their new philosophy.

  • @eliotness107

    @eliotness107

    16 күн бұрын

    Affliction, shadow priest, boomie and unholy dk mega rot BGs just spreading dots and chain CC healers xD

  • @Kurnhelios

    @Kurnhelios

    16 күн бұрын

    @@eliotness107 Exactly right, it's one of my favourite RBG comps besides melee cleaves :P

  • @dylanwarner6035
    @dylanwarner603517 күн бұрын

    Monk vivify got a stealth 60% PvP nerf on the last round as well

  • @derkaman123123

    @derkaman123123

    17 күн бұрын

    For MW or WW

  • @braydenbrayden7944

    @braydenbrayden7944

    16 күн бұрын

    proof?

  • @andysvoboda5434
    @andysvoboda543416 күн бұрын

    Blizzard loves Fel magic.... starting to wonder if Gul'dan runs Blizzard, all starting to make sense now

  • @marek8725
    @marek872517 күн бұрын

    more sustained healing profile? sounds like blood DK buff

  • @dotftw1
    @dotftw117 күн бұрын

    Healing changes are good for sure but it is not something " oh wow is changing" thing. lt is just going back to old schoool style.

  • @WoWDontu
    @WoWDontu17 күн бұрын

    the return of LSD rejoice

  • @eliotness107
    @eliotness10716 күн бұрын

    Maybe the shift in the damage profiles will allow for some nice PVP montages again and not just highlight reels of oneshots or some good players attempting 1v2 but failing since even noobs oneshots everything

  • @mickycala
    @mickycala16 күн бұрын

    Did Blizzard forget the Rogues in the expansion?

  • @saithis7834
    @saithis783416 күн бұрын

    Yo, supa do you know when the season 4 ends in pvp?

  • @MrGeorge102

    @MrGeorge102

    16 күн бұрын

    when prepatch comesout

  • @Undertaker257
    @Undertaker25716 күн бұрын

    Why not shrink the hp pools back to shadowlands s1

  • @zayon0170
    @zayon017016 күн бұрын

    the day wll make: Gladiators of Warcraft , where the game is literally PVP ONLY, you log in, max geared, you do pvp, you get cosmetic, you have ladder, you have dedicated class design and balancing.... aaaaaah

  • @Qstorm88
    @Qstorm8816 күн бұрын

    Thinking of maining Mage. Do you think these changes will quell the fear of being blown up by MM hunters!? 😳

  • @Draethar
    @Draethar16 күн бұрын

    I’m not a PvP pro or anything but I feel like anytime the meta makes players tankier the ranged/casters have the advantage?

  • @Crobian
    @Crobian16 күн бұрын

    I don't know why they don't just write the Spell/Talent and +/- the percentage change lol. E.g. Explosive Shot: +10% damage

  • @endofexistence2149
    @endofexistence214917 күн бұрын

    Frost dk's deathstrike in pvp is a dps loss. The button doesn't feel good at all to hit and with the damage you are taking it just feels like a struggle to keep yourself alive. If they nerf DS at all it will be borderline useless.

  • @MrB4235

    @MrB4235

    17 күн бұрын

    would be cool if they got work in deathstrike effect into frost strike

  • @StevenPitawanakwat-s1j
    @StevenPitawanakwat-s1j16 күн бұрын

    Eternity Sandwich? Were you hungry when you were making this video? lol

  • @swifty2844
    @swifty284417 күн бұрын

    Its alright saying more sustained damage will make the game more predictable, but at the same time it runs the risk.of being boring. Pvp shouldnt be like a pve boss battle. Dps like big crits and feeling powerful, not endlessly grinding away feeling like you hitting them with a wet noodle.

  • @berndbulle5214

    @berndbulle5214

    16 күн бұрын

    well make cc meaningful again, and not tons of micro cc and massive dmg. make sheeps stuns and re saps matter. A healer cant heal when cced at a crucial point. make cast times a bit longer so kicks are useful again. when was the last time someone died in arena because the healer was spell locked?

  • @BreddoX

    @BreddoX

    16 күн бұрын

    @@berndbulle5214 people still die because healers are locked, idk what game you play, try holypala for some weeks and we talk again 🤣

  • @mr.chronoh.9407
    @mr.chronoh.940716 күн бұрын

    What’s wrong with rogues ?

  • @HKono_
    @HKono_17 күн бұрын

    nerf shamans

  • @tabunga4669

    @tabunga4669

    17 күн бұрын

    Bro...😂 you're literally the only one saying this

  • @izidorlesic9216
    @izidorlesic921617 күн бұрын

    People keep bitchin about bursty damage while in literally every other pvp game time to kill is 2-10 seconds while for some reason people insist that in WoW it should be minutes, and then they quit the game because "pvp boring, nothing dies"

  • @davidschultz2198
    @davidschultz219816 күн бұрын

    Arcane mage was actually fun to plat for a minute. You could build charges without spamming arcane blast. Nerf the damage, not the ganeplay.😢😢😢😢

  • @richiepipes8960
    @richiepipes896016 күн бұрын

    i dont know much, but i do know I could take a second mortgage out and bet the entire amount that every week, theres going to be ret paladin buffs, until theres zero point in playing anything else. Sub rogues rotation is a fucking meme. Dh was PERFECT in DF, now we have single target no mover build...

  • @Eliteninja007
    @Eliteninja00717 күн бұрын

    BFA coming back you will see guys :D IMHO if any era should be back its wotlk with the more secondary stats, and ofc crit 200%baseline. And instead of the shitty vers a proper pvp stat…

  • @Kronosbattlemaps
    @Kronosbattlemaps17 күн бұрын

    oh dear this is bad. BG blitz is bad enough with healers been immortal. If they don't introduce dampening in battlegrounds nothing will die.

  • @davidquirin2606
    @davidquirin260617 күн бұрын

    SMF is still a talent node going into TWW. This must be a joke.

  • @Tehilliym
    @Tehilliym17 күн бұрын

    More holy pally nerfs…. Shocking lol

  • @erica653
    @erica65313 күн бұрын

    arcane mage from legion first time i ever really played 3s got high rated season 1 at least for a scrub like me ever since legion it felt like every expansion was just "go fire because blizzard nerfed arcane and frost in pvp because they overperformed in the beta and never reverted or gave them any buffs or changes for the entirety of the expansion" and im hoping this isn't another expansion where i cant play arcane or frost because they over performed in beta and fire went through unfettered (blizzard always seems to love fire mage at least the last 6 years or so..) but I should probably just not be hyped for mage and just play demo like I have been. Really would rather not be forced to fire but it always leans to fire for the past 6 years. Sigh

  • @okubukai
    @okubukai17 күн бұрын

    Your like esam for wow

  • @Njzfinest

    @Njzfinest

    17 күн бұрын

    maybe if esam became a commentator

  • @Casuale84
    @Casuale8417 күн бұрын

    Massive changes? What are they doing about button bloat, rating inflation, que times, rewards, new systems, new modes?

  • @Jacob-km4yb

    @Jacob-km4yb

    17 күн бұрын

    Some button bloat has been addressed with presumably more to come like auto changing a spell to another spell if criteria is met, as for the rest of the issues 🤷‍♂

  • @DH-ht9pl

    @DH-ht9pl

    17 күн бұрын

    Enough with the "Button bloat" bs

  • @lowkn3789

    @lowkn3789

    14 күн бұрын

    @@DH-ht9pl Preach. Idk where this bloat bs is coming from. The pruning that started in WoD had so many people up in arms/quit and now out of no where people complaining about "button bloat" lol

  • @wmwwmw9547
    @wmwwmw954717 күн бұрын

    Nerfing pain and gain... lol 2% at this point just remove the talent completely it feels so insignificant. Just redesign warrior durabilty to come from armor and stamina not from impending victory. That ability makes no sense. Make it a node at least with something else im sick of people crying "if not for that ability u would have lost". We are warriors not healers... i dont want big chunks of heal give us armor back ffs plate has become a joke

  • @Jr-ji2dq
    @Jr-ji2dq16 күн бұрын

    I start playin if i see more and faster pvp balance if something is broken ...... so never again im sure! They need to focus on buff and nerf *% vs player 😢

  • @moomoodeadcow
    @moomoodeadcow17 күн бұрын

    Sounds like healing is going to be more of a gear check and less of a reflex timer. This is bad. I don't like it. I prefer the current situation of arena PVP. I've been a healer in arena since season 2 of retail WOW. I've mained druid and evoker. I've had 1900 on 2v2 and solo shuffle. 90% of the times I lose I can tell what happened, what went wrong and how to prevent it from happening again. I like the reflex timer. Gear checking is boring.

  • @Crobian

    @Crobian

    16 күн бұрын

    With how easy conquest gear is to get everyone has the same gear. But as a healer I agree it is much more fun to have burst CD gameplay than constant aoe pressure gameplay which is what they are obviously aiming for in TWW. In Season 4 of DF while the spec balance is one of the best its ever been, the gameplay is one of the worst its ever been, with several DPS specs having 50% of their damage coming from spamming 1 button to every player (garrote, corruption, vamp touch, moonfire, ignite etc).

  • @moomoodeadcow

    @moomoodeadcow

    16 күн бұрын

    ​@@Crobian a dps/hps checking based gameplay will never be balanced. Because then you have to balance it 100%. Which is impossible and has never been done. Even if it is achieved then people will look for advantages in utility. Then you'll have to balance utility 100%. Meaning everyone has the same amount of CC, mobility, buff, debuff, slow, knock back, etc. People will always look for that 1% edge over the opponent where ever that may be (gems, legendaries, etc.) and they always have. Reflex checking is the answer. Whatever gives them that 1% edge, everyone will flock to it. I know because I will. It's the same with PVE and PVP. Besides, if it goes down to who goes OOM first, nightelf druids will always have the advantage. Let us just compete who has faster hands instead of better builds/combos. The game will be vastly better.

  • @-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-...-
    @-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-...-16 күн бұрын

    Nothing says cohesion like how PvP is played and sustained healing profiles

  • @Jacob-km4yb
    @Jacob-km4yb17 күн бұрын

    Didn't touch victory rush or second wind that's a W in my book

  • @wmwwmw9547

    @wmwwmw9547

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Jacob-km4yb second wind is cool but impending victory is lame. It feels like i use some healing potion. Remove it and buff pain and gain, armor and stamina instead we are warriors we shouldnt heal big chunks of hp like a healer

  • @raiden2048

    @raiden2048

    17 күн бұрын

    @@wmwwmw9547 would renaming it to consume vial like a rogue make you feel better?

  • @MoreOriginality

    @MoreOriginality

    16 күн бұрын

    Really though, tired of hearing him complain about second wind like it's MoP ptr

  • @wmwwmw9547

    @wmwwmw9547

    16 күн бұрын

    @@raiden2048 armor

  • @anannoyedpanda

    @anannoyedpanda

    16 күн бұрын

    hell yeah brother. The zugging shall continue until mage morale is depleted and they uninstall.

  • @Levelity
    @Levelity17 күн бұрын

    This has been the complaint I've had since BFA. They are making pvp into Mythic+ with a focus on sustained damage instead of properly aligning burst. Ugh, this is not good.

  • @cyanogen7582

    @cyanogen7582

    17 күн бұрын

    I miss MoP pvp ngl. Most fun I’ve had in terms of pvp design.

  • @EduardoCadena1

    @EduardoCadena1

    17 күн бұрын

    I don't know or care for mythic+, but I am of the opposite opinion. I rather be able to kill and have the game matter throughout the whole match, not just every 2 minutes

  • @Levelity

    @Levelity

    17 күн бұрын

    @@EduardoCadena1 It shouldn't take 3 minutes of micromanaging a bunch of small modifiers to meaningless abilities to win a duel. I miss when an 2 hand auto attack could chunk 5-10% of your health, and nukes were like 20-25%.

  • @Levelity

    @Levelity

    17 күн бұрын

    @@cyanogen7582 That's BiS pvp design and I think it's not debateable.

  • @Nick-fb9nt

    @Nick-fb9nt

    17 күн бұрын

    I really enjoy sustain dmg instead of having to wait 1-2min for burst. It makes you focus more on outsmarting with abilities rather than everyone waiting for their go.

  • @drjagged
    @drjagged16 күн бұрын

    Hopefully this doesn’t translate to more drawn out arena games…long dampening games are the absolute worst

  • @robertchalmers1963
    @robertchalmers196317 күн бұрын

    I don't think the game is gonna be much different at all. I think the healing change is more likely to be bad than good as at least the oh sh*t healing moments produce some stress and excitement. Longer arena matches sound bad too which this healing change sounds like it will produce. I hope I'm wrong but I have a bad feeling TWW will be a dud expansion like BfA.

  • @Perchhunter804
    @Perchhunter80417 күн бұрын

    I hate to see blizzard nerfing the fun interactions like proc rates for arcane and not just tuning down the damage 😢 Just nerf the damage not the interactions ^^

  • @polka_man

    @polka_man

    17 күн бұрын

    Blizz always removes fun.

  • @swifty2844
    @swifty284417 күн бұрын

    If they really want to improve healing, they should stop the ability of healers to keep a target bouncing between 1-5% health, as that as a dps is infuriating. Its like just die ffs 😂

  • @bertreynolds8146
    @bertreynolds814617 күн бұрын

    This is the first expansion i haven't been that excited about. I just don't think Blizzard cares enough about the casual PvP experience and it's mostly about PvE

  • @manthe3711

    @manthe3711

    17 күн бұрын

    So, you were excited about Legion, BFA and Shadowlands? You're weird.

  • @bertreynolds8146

    @bertreynolds8146

    16 күн бұрын

    @manthe3711 yea, I like BFA, shadowlands had a cool idea with factions, what does this have? More dwarfs? More underground? Woooow

  • @pichborithkong6797

    @pichborithkong6797

    16 күн бұрын

    @@bertreynolds8146trust me, if u like BFA and Shadowlands, u are kinda in a minority.

  • @manthe3711

    @manthe3711

    16 күн бұрын

    @@bertreynolds8146 Content is irrelevant. Only class design matters. BFA class design was garbage.

  • @tronz4800

    @tronz4800

    15 күн бұрын

    I dont think your are properly informed to state your opinion like that... I actually feel like they are on a really good track with the game. And you say they dont care about the casual PvP experience? They literally made it more casual friendly in dragonflight, and will be even more casual friendly in the war within with solo queue rbg coming...

  • @vaylox09
    @vaylox0917 күн бұрын

    So games are gonna be longer, great.

  • @Jacob-km4yb

    @Jacob-km4yb

    17 күн бұрын

    Longer doesnt mean worse (it can but i digress) just depends on the fluidity of the match and how balancing goes

  • @Papakakadu
    @Papakakadu17 күн бұрын

    It’s funny how they demolish classes with only dps specs. They should always be towards the top of the dps meters as they have no other option😂

  • @DaRougaroux1
    @DaRougaroux117 күн бұрын

    Okay how is this gonna affect disc? Almost all of their healing is percentage based off of their damage. Already nerfing warlock survivability when they are the least mobile class in game. Unreal man. Mages only ones that can deal with melee again.

  • @Jacob-km4yb

    @Jacob-km4yb

    17 күн бұрын

    I main warrior and duel a alot for fun you must not know how difficult it can be to catch a good lock

  • @wmwwmw9547

    @wmwwmw9547

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Jacob-km4yb ye warlock is harder to catch than hunter

  • @DaRougaroux1

    @DaRougaroux1

    16 күн бұрын

    @@Jacob-km4yb Thats the issue, any fool can play warrior and do well with it. In order to fair well on a lock against any melee you have to be above average. Cobrak just did a video a few weeks ago where he dueled a Warrior, the Warrior made several terrible mistakes and still won after a 3 minute duel, why? Because of endless gap closers and uptime along with ridiculous self heals. Cobrak is an above average Warlock and he STILL lost, not because of skill, the Warrior was terrible, it weas because of class.

  • @memofreire
    @memofreire17 күн бұрын

    so, bfa eternal fights return? zzzzz i knew this expac will be zzzz

  • @stoneblood9864
    @stoneblood986417 күн бұрын

    #buffretsheals

  • @p3ngi3

    @p3ngi3

    17 күн бұрын

    Ret has the best heals already for dps.

  • @Jacob-km4yb

    @Jacob-km4yb

    17 күн бұрын

    as a warrior main i disagree just bubble and DPS while i cry

  • @stoneblood9864

    @stoneblood9864

    17 күн бұрын

    @@p3ngi3 idk what game your are playing. We def ain’t playing the same ret tho.

  • @p3ngi3

    @p3ngi3

    17 күн бұрын

    @@stoneblood9864 does Ret not have bubble? Instant heals? Hand of freedom? BoS, casting heals? Anything else I left out to cry about?

  • @stoneblood9864

    @stoneblood9864

    17 күн бұрын

    @@p3ngi3 ok well if your gonna be condescending ill go ahead and explain why u have no idea wtf you are talking about. Rets healing is the worst healing in the game for pvp. Period. Not even close. Since they were nerfed in season 1 (it was justified at the time), blizzard nerfed ret healing by a % base. Now we are in season 4 and they never buffed their healing since that nerf and of course every spec in the game got stronger over 3 seasons. they never compensated for the gearing scaling. So, for example right now flash of light (WHICH IS ON A 6 SEC CD) heals on average of about 80-110kish. Word of glory heals for about 90-120k ish. lets not forget too WOG not only costs holy power BUT ALSO COSTS MANA NOW. So put that into perspective of my ret having about 1.6 million hp rn. So each of those heals on average heals for not even 1/10th of my max hp while also making me go oom in the process. Not even taking in to consideration dampening. Doesnt sound very good does it? Now lets talk about the random cds u mentioned that had nothing to do with healing. Freedom? dispellable by half the specs in the game. Also freedom gives 8 seconds of mobility while being on a 25 sec cd. Also take into account that freedom is on a 25 sec cd and u almost always have to pair it with steed (which is a 45 sec cd for 4 secs) so basically gets 4 secs of mobility every 45 secs. Rets mobility is honestly laughable. Now Bubble? 3.5 min cd that can still be purged. SOV? is effected by dampening. Lay on hands? only heals to 75% of max hp now and if heavily HEAVILY effected by dampening. Loh is basically useless 2 mins into an arena match. Thats why u see good rets use it early on. BoS doesnt even heal either idk why tf u said that. Like u do realize these are utilities spells of a utility spec right? Has nothing to do with heals. and finally like u said casting heals. Im gonna be honest with u man, if u see a ret hard casting flash of light, they are either new or stupid. Im a 7x elite, current 2600xp Legend ret. I think i know what im talking about.

  • @corvustheghost55
    @corvustheghost5517 күн бұрын

    Rogues are down bad.

  • @wmwwmw9547

    @wmwwmw9547

    17 күн бұрын

    Rogues deserve this fate

  • @brendynp15
    @brendynp1516 күн бұрын

    Why do they keep bullying rogues 😭

  • @anannoyedpanda

    @anannoyedpanda

    16 күн бұрын

    Literally the class is massively imbalanced in all regards, its due for nerfs and probably even more. This is good for the health of the game. Less rogues equals better quality pvp

  • @brendynp15

    @brendynp15

    16 күн бұрын

    @@anannoyedpanda You obviously haven't played sin in any pve setting where the entire damage window occurs once every minute and outside of that it does absolutely nothing.

  • @phlemrazzes7704
    @phlemrazzes770417 күн бұрын

    Remove healers, reduce damage, buff self sustain, there you go the game is fun for everyone.

  • @benkelly7182

    @benkelly7182

    17 күн бұрын

    Everyone?

  • @tabunga4669

    @tabunga4669

    17 күн бұрын

    Except for healers!

  • @Mentok211

    @Mentok211

    17 күн бұрын

    Go play Guild wars 2

  • @biffii5568

    @biffii5568

    17 күн бұрын

    Need wow 2 for something like that

  • @phlemrazzes7704

    @phlemrazzes7704

    17 күн бұрын

    @@Mentok211 Sure I'll leave you to your 30min Queue.

  • @goku8586
    @goku858617 күн бұрын

    I hope they deal with the 2 pump chumps,No skill required monkey classes

  • @Jacob-km4yb

    @Jacob-km4yb

    17 күн бұрын

    *cough* DH *cough*

  • @syriek

    @syriek

    16 күн бұрын

    Rets😂

  • @zayon0170
    @zayon017016 күн бұрын

    i love you and your content; but very often you start off with such heavy big clickbaits... maybe one day i will unsub due to this takig over

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