I picked this up last year. Great watch, no issues with the size. Looks great. Changed the strap and I have grown to like it a lot.

Very nice review, I just ordered this off Amazon it is 42% off, $217. It is my entry level 1st purchase watch at 57 years old lol. Not including the cheap Timex I had when I was a kid. I love how easy the face is to read, When getting older too much clutter is not good in a small space. Maybe in a couple years will upgrade to a radio control higher end Model.

Love the watch, Totally the same like mine.

I love the dial. It's very easy to look at, even with all that's going on. The overall size is a bit large for me. I'd put an aftermarket rally strap on it. I agree; for that price range there are sooooo many other great choices. Nice work, and thanks for all you do!

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

True! And thanks Les! Much appreciated.

@cosmodoc

2 жыл бұрын

I bought it in a sale for $150!

I have this watch and I’ve put it on a stainless steel bracelet which looks really good. I have a few eco-drive watches, one of which is nearly twenty years old and still going strong. Also, my experience of Citizen customer service is very different to yours, maybe because I’m in the UK? I don’t know but they’ve impressed me a couple of times.

I have this watch and I love it. I agree with your comment on solar battery replacement. I had an issue with a Seiko solar a few years back and the replacement cost was almost the price of a new watch of similar model. This does, IMO, make most solar watches at this price point disposable. Shameful

As someone with an 8.25 inch wrist this is almost svelte looking, it wears smaller than it measures for sure. In fact the strap on my wrist, while comfortable, looked ridiculous and had to be changed which is really my only gripe with this watch.

You can actually bypass Citizen all together & take them to any certified watchmaker with a Citizen parts account & get the batteries replaced by them instead or send them to companies like Stoll for replacement as well 👍

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know

Does the watch strap length include the watch case or just the strap itself, I have this watch but the strap needs to be about a 1/2 inch longer, I'm only Able to hit the 1st hole. The Amazon Tech information is incorrect, As it says 26 mm wide when it is clearly 22 mm wide. But I'm not sure if the length is measured including the watch or without the watch.

I'm an automatic watch kind of guy but I bought this watch for a number of reasons. In no particular order they are: It's size. I have a 7" wrist too, but I'm tired of needing a magnifying glass to read the sub dials on smaller watches. It has a nice vintage look. The solar power and the eco drive movement is probably indestructible. 100m water resistance.

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

All valid points. I agree completely. Solid piece for the price.

Replacing a solar cell (capacitor) is only very marginally more difficult than a regular battery - there's just a little tab to line up. Same tools are needed. The cells currently retail for about $30. You need to look up the right cell for the movement of the watch. It seems harsh to judge any solar watch as being disposable - just take it to any jeweller / watch repairer to get the cell replaced.

@ShouldITimeThis

Жыл бұрын

If somebody is so inclined to do the job themselves, that is true. You're 100% wrong about "take it to any jeweler" though. Local places here in NJ that do typical battery swaps etc., don't mess with solar cells. Best thing they usually offer is for them to send it to the company for repair. It's NOT as straight-forward as replacing a standard battery cell, it's not as cheap, and not any person will do it for you. So the adjustment (for you) is: unless you want to replace the solar cell yourself, this watch is disposable.

Nice video Insomniac. I have a citizen eco drive since 2000 and is running like the first day. I don’t agree with the lifetime of 10 years that you mentioned. And I have 5 citizen watches but I never have to deal with customer support. Wish never have to. Jaja. Regards

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! As for the 10 years thing, I'm not saying that's definitely all you'll get. That's the general expected life span of one of those solar cells.

@stoater1551

2 жыл бұрын

Even if you did have to bin it after 10 years, contrast that with getting a similarly priced automatic, esp a chronograph serviced. My Citizen automatic diver cost around £200. When it needs a service, will it be worth paying out for that ? It's a close call.

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

@@stoater1551 The point isn't the cost of having it serviced - it's the fact that Citizen most likely WON'T service it. It's the idea that IF you were to fall in love with the watch, you'd have to find some 3rd party to fix it when it dies, and that's a sad situation to be in. Citizen (the brand / service - not the product necessarily) is an absolutely garbage company to deal with here in the US, so we have to look at them as completely disposable purchases or not buy them at all.

@brendanallen3759

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShouldITimeThis Few things about all that. 1. I have two eco-drives well over 10 years old that show no signs of slowing down. But when they do... 2. I live in a metro area where there are dozens of watch repair places within 50 miles, any one of which can replace the rechargeable cells in these watches. It's literally no more difficult than changing a disposable battery. What scares people off is the "Do not open, Service Center repair only" warning that Citizen etches onto the case backs of their DIVERS. Their fear is that there will be a flurry of warranty claims from people damaging the gaskets and therefore compromising the water resistance (or so the theory goes). 3. TBF like you I have little interest in Citizen's catalog of automatic watches. I believe Orient and Seiko offer much more bang for the buck in this area. I'm sorry to hear you had an atrocious experience trying to get an automatic serviced through Citizen USA (still your most watched video to date I believe). I have zero hesitation in buying their eco-drive or HAQ watches however, which ultimately are their bread and butter.

At 2:00 you say that you get good feedback from the pushers. I only get feedback when I start the chronograph but when I stop it, nothing. The top pusher feels flat/mushy. Is it just my watch?

Love the watch BUTwhy is the date window so small on this large watch?

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure. I didn't have any issues reading the date. Seemed large enough for me.

Can you tell me anything about the Citizen watches OK on the back it says E820 - or 01102 at the bottom it says 072030012 on the back of the watch can you tell me anything about it OK

Awesome review Rob. I thought you would pick at the cut out for the date. It looks a little sloppy to me but I never really notice it while wearing just when I take it off or adjust the date

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Patrick! Yeah I noticed that but being that Citizen did such a solid job on the rest (and there was plenty to talk about being that it has 2 other complications) I decided not to over-analyze the date disk for once lol. Thanks again for loaning this for review! It's a big help.

@bradgarrett7790

2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering about that cut out too. Nice watch though for sure Patrick. I like the layout and the side view was impressive to me.

I messed up big time not getting this Citizen watch when I saw it at Costco for $149 earlier this year🤦🏻‍♂️ Now I’m finding it for $200 plus because it’s the Christmas Holiday Season. 😭😂

If the whole dial lit up omg it would be nuts

I just bought the black version for $ 69.00 in excellent condition. Entry level i quess, but i like it.

@ashifpa7705

9 ай бұрын

Link please

I just purchased one since I’ve never owned an Eco-Drive and paid $150, if it last me 10yrs then it would’ve been well worth it.

I know I'm late to the party. This watch just came to my attention. Do you think it's a rip off of the original Breitling Top Time Deus Ex Machina limited edition (not the blue 2022 version)? Particularly with the tan strap option. The cream colour face and orange accents are very similar. I love the Deus Breitling, but they sold out before they even came on the market, which is why I'm looking at the (much) cheaper option. I wonder which watch came first?

@ShouldITimeThis

Жыл бұрын

Your comment doesn't make any sense. The Breitling is sold out so you're looking at a Citizen, wondering if it's a "ripoff" of a Breitling, but you want something that looks like the Breitling?

Thinking about this one. $160 at Costco 10\22

@Xiuhcoatl0352

Жыл бұрын

Just got that one from Costco and I love it.

@franco804

Жыл бұрын

I just bought the black version on sale at JomaShop for $145.

Hi, I bought this watch but the coronograph doesn't work! It takes a time to work or should be work at the first the watch runs? Because I heard they charge by light Please let me know

@ShouldITimeThis

Жыл бұрын

If the main time works but the chronograph doesn't work, it's broken.

@mojtabaandamesh4039

Жыл бұрын

@@ShouldITimeThis Thank you for your information

@mojtabaandamesh4039

Жыл бұрын

@@ShouldITimeThis yes the main time is working but not smooth one second one second, it's working 2 second 2 second like a watch that battery nearly done.

@ShouldITimeThis

Жыл бұрын

@@mojtabaandamesh4039 Yeah the solar cell is probably shot. Leave it in the sun for a day (direct sunlight). If it doesn't start running properly by the end of the day, it's broken and you'll have to contact Citizen (good luck - their horrible customer service is why I'll never buy another Citizen watch)

@mojtabaandamesh4039

Жыл бұрын

@@ShouldITimeThis hopefully it's working after 24 hours and now l'm happy😊😊

You can get this watch at Costco for 160 dollars right now. Withn their return policy, it's a no brainer for trying out a Citizen.

Is it difficult to replace the solar cell yourself ?

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know anybody who has been able to do it themself personally, so I'd imagine so. People replace regular batteries themselves all the time, but when solar cells need to be replaced people usually send the watch back to the manufacturer.

@MultiBoris1982

11 ай бұрын

Not at all, is the same process for replace normal battery,even tough that battery is little different. there are a lot of video that show it.

OK - the date is barely visible - for those over 40...., but this is not a problem. If it only was slightly smaller 🤔🤔 This fits very fine, people with wider bones / wrists. This watch is nice in all its' versions.

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

I don't have "wider bones / wrists," I have a standard 7" wrist and it fit me fine.

@sandwaves5642

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShouldITimeThis Everything is relative

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

@@sandwaves5642 I think you mean "subjective," because RELATIVE to my 7" wrist (which is not "wide") this watch is not too big, but SUBJECTIVELY one might find this watch too large for their tastes.

You would think that a watch reviewer would know that the battery can easily be replaced in all Citizen Eco-Drive watches rather than telling his audience to throw it away once the battery is dead.

Is it waterproof/resistant?

@ShouldITimeThis

Жыл бұрын

If you wouldn't have skipped the watch specs that I put on screen in the beginning, you would know.

If the case wase 40mm it wase a best seler

Can i swim with this?

@ShouldITimeThis

2 жыл бұрын

I put the water resistance spec in the beginning of the video with the other specs. The short answer is "yes." The long answer is "I wouldn't"

I seriously don't understand this new trend of every reviewer considering any watch over 40mm to be big? Do all of these reviewers have ladies wrists or something?

@ShouldITimeThis

Жыл бұрын

These "reviewers" understand that the lugs of a watch should never pass the curvature of the wrist - as per how watches were designed to fit on a wrist. The problem isn't reviewers - the problem is clowns who think giant chunky watches look cool. Anybody with an ounce of class or understanding regarding watches sees you wearing a house clock on your wrist and immediately know that you bought something to be noticed - you're not knowledgeable about watches.

@marcdaniels9079

11 ай бұрын

@@ShouldITimeThis This arrogant watch snob comment is absurd and insulting. Another subscriber lost. There is room in the world for all tastes and you make yourself look ridiculous with this small minded nonsense.