I have my grandfather’s original 1878 Colt 10-gauge. It’s a lot easier opening and closing than the one you are shooting. I love the old gooseneck hammers and the old-style look. I’d love owning one of the new ones!

I have my grandfather’s original Colt 1878 in 10 gauge. It looks fairly similar but it has a lot more drop in the stock. Also it doesn’t have a rib extension for lockup. I would love to own the Cimmaron copy. I love the doubles and will always love the style, the way it points and handles. Great old guns!

Really enjoyed the video as I've been thinking about getting a 12 gauge coach gun for a while. Your gun is a beauty, it has a lot of character to it. I'll look into this model.

I happen to have two original Colt 1878s. One 12 gauge and one 10 gauge. I also recently came across a Cimarron 1878 with 26" barrels at a local gun shop and traded for it. It is MUCH easier to open and close than the one in your video. I do Cowboy Action Shooting and have three buddies that have the 20" model. They handled the 26" gun I have and said it was built much better out of the box than their's. The wood even looks better on the gun I have. Also, the 26" gun must have lighter barrel as it doesn't feel as heavy as their 20" guns. Everyone felt that it pointed (balanced) better.

I hope you will forgive my returning to this video, but I had to after talking to one of cousins recently about a "Back when we were young" event that occurred when some yahoos thought it would be a good idea to try and steal some our families (our farms were fairly close together and cattle were a cash crop for us) . The yahoos in question had stolen any number of head from other farmers in the area and had worked their way into our area, so, thanks to common sense and some "suggestions" provided by Sheriff's Deputies and State Troopers (Country Boys themselves as a general rule at the time) we went to bed early as usual....But with our shotguns (mostly double barrels) and deer rifles (mostly Winchester 94s) close to hand while keeping one eye and both ears open for the sound of barking and/or howling yard dogs (bread eaters as they were known back then). One night the yahoos took a notion to try and steal cows from our pastures....That did not work out well for them as us Country Boys and Girls grabbed our shotguns, rifles and a revolvers and opened fire.....It was a serious case of cross fire.....00 buck and 150 and 175grn .30-30 rounds and more than a few .38 Special "balls" were directed at their trucks and trailers.....And more than a few hit home.....The next day the County Sheriff and some of his more senior deputies made the rounds and congratulated us for helping his Deputies "identify" the trucks and trailers involved. Since both trucks and their respective trailers were basically riddled with buck shot, rifle and revolver balls they kinda of stood out on the road from those owned and operated by honest folks. No cows OR humans were stolen or injured (not for lack of tryin' when it came to the humans) in the above incident but my cousin and I nearly hurt ourselves laughing about how the next day our Dads and Grandads kept complaining about "earin' back those mule ears" on their 12, 20, and 16 gauge shotguns and "lettin' loose with both barrels at them damn cow thieves." Their shoulders and/or ribs hurt them a mite.... All six men involved were shortly arrested and spent time in the state pen for stealing and attempting to steal cattle despite their defense lawyers whinnin' and complainin' about their clients gettin' shot at "from all directions" over in the Sturgis Road Community.....It was a simpler and more justifiable time....

@DukeFrazierProductions

5 жыл бұрын

This is a long overdue response, and I do apologize for not getting back sooner, but that is an awesome story.

@willrowell3218

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you had a pretty awesome childhood! Haha, such a shame we can't be more like that now.

Both barrels at once is 'giving it to them w both barrels'.. and is another option in firing this shotgun. Sometimes, two are better than one. Excellent for home protection. Would love to own a couple of these babies.

I bought one and had to do a bunch of work to get it to dump the empties and it is very heavy. I sold mine and started using an old American Gun Co. of New York in 20GA hammer shotgun. I did like the hammers on the Cimarron 1878 they were smooth and easy to cock. My dad had a real Colt 1878 as well as a Remington 1889 with long barrels I used to hunt with for years and they were not as heavy as these reproductions.

Love it!! Want one.

@DukeFrazierProductions

6 жыл бұрын

They're nice. They just don't like short brass shells.

@jeffreyelliott622

3 жыл бұрын

@@DukeFrazierProductions I want the model with 26 in. barrels !!!

Thanks for the info, I just ordered one.

@eugenekapinos8889

6 жыл бұрын

Me Too!

I have several reproduction 1800's shotguns - they do not like the steel base shells like you are using in the video - they all stick or jam on occasion with steel - no problems with brass base shells. That is in doubles, lever and pump of pre-1900 design.

They are nice.. I like the 20 gauge versions personally.. When you do fire both barrels they do let you know it!

Today I finally got to try mine. Unfortunately I had the same problem as you, only it was the Remington Heavy Dove and the Federal Game Load that wouldn't open without the knee trick. (I didn't have any of the lighter load Federals to try.) Estate game loads shot fine except for two. I also shot a box of shells I loaded with Black Powder, various powder charges from 40 to 75 grains, and they all opened and extracted just fine, even though they were various brands of brass including Federal. These hulls had been shot through my Stoeger Coach Gun prior to reloading. Interestingly, the hulls that were difficult to open in the 1878 also wouldn't even close in the Stoeger, but empty hulls that had been shot in the Stoeger could be loaded and extracted in the 1878 just fine.

I was considering a stoeger but man I have to say I really like the looks the hammers on the outside and to be honest the safety factor is more appealing than the hammer less coach guns as well. I might just have to reconsider and get this one instead

Nice lookin greener's!

Love it!

I want one I miss the chance to buy one when I had seen it now I want one for sure

"Handymen Earl, we are handy men." Thumbs up if you know where that's from

The intro reminds me of the scene in the movie Unforgiven... "did pa used to kill folks?"

@DukeFrazierProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Electro that was the inspiration.

Very nice

When using side by side to remember triggers. Right in front and Left behind. (right front trigger left back trigger) On hunting scatter guns left barrel is usually for further away. (tighter choke) Thus Right in front. Left behind.

Duke I've watched all your Cimarron 1878 videos and you convinced me I had to have one. I found a used one in excellent shape for a not-too-bad Covid 19 era price. It should be here tomorrow. I'm interested in how mine will react to those same ammo choices as yours. I had similar issues with my Stoeger Coach Gun, but only with reloads. It was sticking just until the extractor reaches full extension.

@DukeFrazierProductions

3 жыл бұрын

Mine is a poorly fit extractor, which I think is across the board. I've been thinking of having a machinist make a new one for me.

@jakewayrewa5201

3 жыл бұрын

@@DukeFrazierProductions Mine is actually a TTN, made shortly before the owner of the company sold it to EMF and Cimarron took over the 1878. The gun's owner is an old timer that used it in SASS matches a couple times, then retired it in his safe for several years. It has the lightened competition springs and looks like excellent condition.

@jericho2619

Жыл бұрын

@@DukeFrazierProductions Did you ever get that custom extractor ? The reason I am asking, I have the same Cimarron sxs shotgun with the same issues you have.

A lot of shotguns of all styles don’t like those cheapo Winchester’s... nice video. New sub.

I was about to say, statistically speaking, you should have hit something... Great video intro!

Ordered one from Midway, went to pick it up today , got delayed...RRRRR!!!!! I will say I got to spend some time with her though, and shes a beauty. I shall call her Bessie.

@DukeFrazierProductions

5 жыл бұрын

Good name, mine is Delilah. My Brown Bess is called Bessie.

when I get my rights restored that might be my next purchase right now I can only use black powder guns Would you trust shooting slugs out of their modern smokeless logs or should I leave take the powder out and load it with Pyrodex

While I've never owned a Cimarron product I have fired and/or handled several that are/were owned by friends of mine. The single aggravatin' thing every one of them had in common (especially the shotguns and rifles/carbines) was how stiff and gritty they were out of the box, and even after a few hundred rounds had been fired through them. It's for those reasons that I have not purchased ANYTHING from Cimarron! I simply refuse to pay the price(s) that are on the tags or MSRP especially since I know that I am only going to have to take my firearm to a qualified gunsmith to make them work the way they SHOULD have worked from the factory/assembly line. I want a "mule ear" double barrel shotgun....Just not one from Cimarron and that's why I'm keeping a close watch on the local pawn shops and gun stores for a used, and yes older of course, "mule ear" 12 gauge shotgun. I only discovered your channel this morning and am working my way through your videos, all of which I think are excellent by the way, and subscribed as soon as I saw that you had covered the 1858 Remington revolver. Take care and keep up the excellent work you do.

@DukeFrazierProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the support. I discovered after this video that this gun does not like short "brass" shells. High brass and solid brass shells work wonderful and it operates like glass.

@3ducs

6 жыл бұрын

I have a few Cimarron, SAAs. Mine are excellent.

Hey love this shotgun but my forarm won't reattach, there's something up with the lever. I disassembled but can't figure it out.. any ideas or I guess I should bring it to a gun smith, thanks!

@DukeFrazierProductions

2 жыл бұрын

If its still new they can be temperamental. I had some issues with mine for a while. Gunsmith might be your best bet it it doesn't want to cooperate.

I dont use aluminum case cheap ammo in mine they swell out and make it hard to break down. It is also hard on the extractor. They are cheap in price and quality.

Are the hammers whats actually firing them or is it just for show ive read some of these shotguns with the hammers dont actually push the firing pins

@DukeFrazierProductions

2 жыл бұрын

The hammers are actually striking the firing pins on this model.

When you use two fingers to shoot can't you pull the back trigger first?

@jeremykelly3351

7 жыл бұрын

yes

@DukeFrazierProductions

7 жыл бұрын

You could.

Super

Is this a black powder gun?

I looked at Cimarron's site and they don't list it; Who is the actual manufacturer? I thought I saw a brief flash of something on the side but.....

@DukeFrazierProductions

6 жыл бұрын

The barrel says made by LJC PRS which I think means LJC Precision

@DukeFrazierProductions

6 жыл бұрын

www.cimarron-firearms.com/1878-coach-gun-12-ga-20-barrel-standard-blue.html

@redblue40rc33

6 жыл бұрын

theyre made by uberti in italy

@DukeFrazierProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Nope. Made in china.

I want longer barrels (24"?) and a color case reciever. Do they have that?

@DukeFrazierProductions

3 жыл бұрын

They used to offer color case, don't think they do anymore. You can get one with 26 inch barrels.

@jeffreyelliott622

3 жыл бұрын

I think they do but it's called the Doc Holliday special and price is somewhere around $1200 to $1500 dollars retail I believe but it has the color case hardening receiver !!!

@andrewshepherd1537

2 жыл бұрын

If it helps (I don't know if you ever found one or not), you can buy one with the bluing, and Wyoming Armory can case harden it for you

I got the same shotgun, you ever have any issues with the forend coming loose?

@DukeFrazierProductions

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't. Mine is nice and tight as the day I bought it.

Like all your vids, gotta get that auto focus figure out tho

@DukeFrazierProductions

7 жыл бұрын

1972glm I think I am going to quit using the auto focus. I bought a high dollar lens that gives great pictures but doesn't auto focus worth crap.

Update I was wrong the shotgun I looked at was a century arms not a cimaron I'm sorry.

Where are they made ? Nice Video btw

@DukeFrazierProductions

3 жыл бұрын

China. Go figure.

What's the country of manufacture?

For the two finger grip yoy could pull the back trigger first. But even still only ever use one finger my dude

@DukeFrazierProductions

5 жыл бұрын

That lesson has been well learned. I still occasionally dump both barrels for fun, and to make sure my shoulder is still there.

Would it be safe to shoot slugs out of this gun

@DukeFrazierProductions

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure,never tried them.

How about as a base for an SBS?

@golf-n-guns

7 жыл бұрын

Also, what was up with the difficulty in cracking it open in the beginning?

@DukeFrazierProductions

7 жыл бұрын

golf-n-guns The shells are getting caught in the chamber. It just needs polishing and it'll be good, hopefully.

How much dose one of these cost?

@DukeFrazierProductions

6 жыл бұрын

basically hell About $600

hey anyone know if theres side by sides with ejectors

@ronbloomberg

7 жыл бұрын

Sonny Rawles SxS with ejectors? Yes. SxS Hammer Guns with ejectors? Very rare....

@jeffreyelliott622

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronbloomberg Just polish the chambers and shuck'em out of there with authority !!!

Shot cowboy action for awhile, ditch the Winchester brand shells & I'd bet 95% of your extraction and ejection issues would go away.

surprised that rubber tire didnt throw some bb's back at ya.....not a good idea putting a target on a tire to shoot that close with a shotgun

@DukeFrazierProductions

5 жыл бұрын

The bbs all penetrated, not deep but deep enough to stay. At 25 yards its a hole different story.

Problems with ejection is Winchester shells. Problem solved.

@DukeFrazierProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Jason, thank you for the comment. I just went out yesterday and ran several varieties of ammo through the gun. Sure enough, the Winchester ammo had problems and the others did not. Best results were with Remington Ammo. I'll have a video up here in the near future.

@kevincolliss2877

6 жыл бұрын

Jason Conley winchester aluminum(or steel maybe) are garbage ! They dont extract in alot of guns.

why does the barrel say LJC PRC CIMARRON??????????????...is that a china gun??????????????

@DukeFrazierProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Red Blue40 yes it is a Chinese gun.

Am about to purchase this shotgun, made by Pietta instead of Uberti -- think it will be the exact same high-quality product.

@Catgat37

Жыл бұрын

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