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@post-leftluddite

Ай бұрын

I think you should look into the relationship between Right-Wing Authoritarian Personality type and religion. Theodore Adorno began exploring this relationship in his book The Authoritarian Personality and it is truly fascinating, I feel like you would be particularly interested in the interviews he has with these individuals and how despite being nearly 70 years ago, they sound like they were recorded yesterday. I feel like Right-Wing Authoritarian Personality type is more relevant than ever has numerous peer-reviewed studies have found that it is the unifying commonality among Trump supporters and Authoritarian aggression is exceptionally high in these individuals, particularly if they're evangelical. Adorno was originally looking for an answer as to why so many people could support Fascism in the 1930s and 1940s, and with the rise of authoritarianism and fascism across the globe, I think there's an excellent video to be made as well as a public service in bringing attention to this very serious threat.

@klingonsexy

Ай бұрын

@@post-leftluddite Agreed!

@g.d.graham2446

Ай бұрын

As a proud Catholic democrat, to be fair, most of the notes here regarding the "cosmic spiritual battle" idea mainly reside within far-right circles, where Christianity continuously distorted and weaponized for their own political benefit (and in the specific case of Russian Orthodox, Putin has literally filled the priesthood with former KGB agents, so that is an obvious hostile political takeover of a religion). For someone like me, my belief in a spiritual opposition is not an excuse to engage in "othering," but rather a recognition of a bigger picture in terms of why one's actions matter in an "ultimate" sense. In other words, I believe that my actions can and will have consequences on a future judgement day, which thus becomes one of many motivations for me to maintain my moral compass (i.e. it provides for me a healthy fear of future judgement, in the same way that the consequences for breaking a law are motivation to abide by said law). Currently typing this comment in the first 10 minutes of the video...maybe this will be illuminated on later, but that's my two cents.

@OverAnalyst

Ай бұрын

​@@post-leftluddite Yes! That'd be amazing. I just commented re the religion/RW-military link, but this is universal & v important. It's been wild watching even "free thinkers" slide into supporting politicians who would gladly institute totalitarianism, if they could.

@paulv3968

Ай бұрын

Watching this reinforces why I'm still Christian, and always will be. Thanks.

It's really astonishing that people who believe only in one god believe that this god is in an infinite battle with one of his creations

@clutchmaster6000

Ай бұрын

The battle is already won

@patrickdallaire5972

Ай бұрын

A tri-omni one at that.

@stresslimit

Ай бұрын

It's not infinite battle it's a rebellion.

@calebpeterson3117

Ай бұрын

@@clutchmaster6000If it’s already won why do Christian’s still talk about it like an active battle?

@theCommentDevil

Ай бұрын

Which makes their God weak but that goes over their heads

I used to struggle with same sex attraction, but now i’m really good at it.

@jeffbrowngraphics

Ай бұрын

Bahahaha :) I like this phrasing

@feeblereptilian

Ай бұрын

Why does your comment not have more likes?!? Give them more likes!

@Elizardbeth03

Ай бұрын

I still struggle with it cause it's hard to talk to girls without getting flustered 😔😂

@candyh4284

Ай бұрын

I used to think I struggled with same-sex attraction... then I realized it was really the "same-sex dating and kissing" part that was throwing me.

@dxllybattery

Ай бұрын

​@@Elizardbeth03life saving tip but just go for it! Trust me, you'll feel flustered and nervous but the least you can do is go for it despite how you feel. That's how confidence is built. Hope this helps 👍🏻 not sure if this works for others but this worked for me when I was pretty nervous before going up a stage for a performance.

I was one of those "misfits" terrorized during the Satanic Panic. I committed the "unforgivable crimes" of being autistic, playing D&D and being a teen in the South. The literal only thing that kept me from going to one of those Christian camps for "troubled teens" was my father was too cheap to pay for it and he died before the church could come up with the money to pay for it themselves. Do not ever downplay the harm done back then. The lack of the internet kept the breadth of the damage done from getting recorded as fully as it would be today but it was awful just in the TTRPG world.

@Gary_a_normal_human_being

21 күн бұрын

Damn that’s messed up I didn’t know they had camps for people back then

@KenS1267

21 күн бұрын

@@Gary_a_normal_human_being They had camps and schools of every description. A girl I knew was sent to one while she was pregnant and was forced to give the baby up for adoption right after delivery. For me the preacher first tried to pitch to my dad a Christian military school for my last two years of high school but it cost something like $10k, in the mid 1080's, and my dad wasn't going to pay that when public school was free. Then they got the idea of sending me to some Christian summer work camp which was just, again IIRC, $2000, and my dad didn't have it or wouldn't pay for it and the church started trying to raise it "to save my soul" while I started planning to run. My dad died and the church found themselves dealing with the state and as screwed up as child welfare was they were not about to let those crazies at me. This was literally all over playing D&D at school and not quitting quietly when the preacher demanded it.

@DadamWrites

20 күн бұрын

Agreed. I didn't like that particular implication. It isn't worse today. It's more visible and orchestrated by the same organizations ... and many of the same people! They put the mask on for a few years, but didn't go away. I didn't grow up during the panic, but I've studied it insofar as it impacted TTRPGs and later, video games. My family wasn't fundamentalist. I had friends' parents tell me the video games I play are satanic tools. And in the 90s, there was a moral panic about video games - a distraction from the need for gun control.

@bl3df0rdays

16 күн бұрын

I'd like to back you up by saying we should not underestimate the terrible mark those zealots left on the lives of kids and young people back then.

@Greg501-

14 күн бұрын

To be fair, it certainly isn't as bad (for the general public who "weren't affected") as the "destructive behavior" of recent times. Feel for you though.

I "came out" as an agnostic when I was 13- my religious grandma didn't bat an eye, she had debates with me, she argued her faith without discrediting my beliefs, and it was beautiful. So I thought, hey, it's cool. So cut to that summer, staying at my aunt's in Texas, and I thought I would share my thoughts on the matter with her, because she was talking about me going to church with her and my uncle, and I wasn't about it- well, I was literally almost thrown out of their home. Did not go well, to say the least. My aunt became convinced I was worshipping the devil, and would read my heavily metaphoric journals and found her "proof"- I have never felt so judged and hurt like that, she broke some beautiful openness that I had, and I personally think for reasons like this alone that Christianity is more dangerous than it is helpful- when your own FAMILY turns against you because of a 2000 year old FAIRY TALE- sorry, I cannot be on board with anything like that, I don't want any open minded, curious kid to be CRUSHED like I was, I was strong enough to hold on to my convictions, but I lost my aunt in the process, and that's not okay, but I also can't pretend not to be who I am, that's insane...

@justin2308

24 күн бұрын

As a Christian myself, I honestly think your aunt handled that in the worst way possible, or at least that’s what it sounds like (I don’t know everything about her, obviously). When it comes to the gospel, yeah, one ministry leader I know says there’s times where being more “in-your-face” might be necessary as opposed to sitting down and having a discussion, but what she did with almost throwing you out? That’s just…not right. Your grandma definitely handled things a lot better. After all, you can’t force faith. It’s a seed that’s planted that God grows. I do have to wonder, though. If you don’t mind sharing, what exactly sorts of metaphors did she find that “proved” you worshipped the devil?

@Sam-dn5qh

23 күн бұрын

Love your grandma, she reminds me of my paternal grandfather and it tooks years for me to challenge the closed-minded individuals after I recognized not everyone was prepared to handle a pre-teen who saw the world differently because he enjoyed encyclopedias and other books.

@wanniesup

23 күн бұрын

@@justin2308 i was gonna say sum abt what they said but u alr did ty for that but also Christians were taught to love not hate so im pretty sure Christians who hate on diffrences are not doing what God wants

@michaelwhittierpearson

19 күн бұрын

humans form religions -- Ancient Rome's was more ruthless. Islam can be pretty ruthless. Without going down the whole list, In this moment, I believe goodness is possible, and Christianity is not as much a hindrance as some group codes are.

@maryleekomaniecki5799

19 күн бұрын

Your religious grandma probably thought some of the same things as your aunt in Texas did, but didn't want to cast you away for the sake of her feelings for you and yours for her. In a sense, you could say that your grandma acted in a more Christian way toward you. HOWEVER, when the rubber hits the road, you must face the facts, and realize that your belief system not only is not appreciated by anyone who calls themself a Christian, but appears to be satanic and leading you to hell, unless you make a 360 degree turn and follow Christ. Perhaps this would sting less if you ventured to open the Bible to see what constitutes the belief system you are up against. I can sympathize with you, somewhat, for two reasons. One, because when I was much younger, I was once an atheist, as well. Secondly, at this point, I feel rejected by most of my mother's side of the family because I am a Christian and they are all atheists. The rejection can go either way. Best wishes----see what it's all about----be curious, and I predict things will fall in their place, not just the problem with your family. Rejection from family members is the worst, I agree with you.

I think saying LGBT people are possessed is dehumanizing people so that empathetic Christians can justify their policies- it’s not mother vs. daughter, it’s mother vs. demon inside her. And when it gets to the point where kids are attempting suicide, they’re not dying because of parental abuse, they’re dying because of demon possession. I’ve seen these relationships and it makes me so mad that there’s never accountability.

@shadamyandsonamylover

Ай бұрын

Ruby Franke shit…

@shrekiscool4743

Ай бұрын

It's seriously disgusting

@hugonobody3352

Ай бұрын

Those who subscribe to this "pride" movement aren't possessed by demons, simply lead astray. We as Christians are taught to love the sinner and hate the sin. Just because someone doesn't like your lifestyle doesn't mean they hate you. Christians telling someone to resist homosexual temptation is a loving act. We know engaging in such activity turns people away from the light of God. Hell is a lack of God's love. To turn away from God is to be separate from God. To be separate from God is to be separate from all things good, from all of God's love.

@jayw9432

Ай бұрын

@@hugonobody3352 why can't you just accept gays, lesbians, bisexuality, a-sexuals, basically why can't you just accept humans and how they are? If someone is gay, or bi, or ace, just let them be. You have any idea how dangerous your views are. People struggling with their sexuality struggle because of views like you have.

@AlexandruVoda

Ай бұрын

@@hugonobody3352 And yet those Christians are willing to commit blasphemy in order oppose sexual and gender minorities. They are willing to use political power in order to impose laws that punish those minorities. Like in Uganda, Russia and many other countries. Even though they believe God explicitly reserved for himself exclusively the right to judge the sinful. Those Christians are going against the will of God and robbing God of the exclusive right of judgement and decide it is up to them to punish those minorities.

the pride flag thing is SO funny because. the pride flag originally had EIGHT colors -- INCLUDING indigo. it was simplified for ease of replication, as happens with many symbols.

@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic

Ай бұрын

Woah, I gave that a google and you’re right! That’s hilarious 😂

@Eve.v

Ай бұрын

@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic glad my queer trivia knowledge can come in handy !! 😎🏳️‍🌈

@metalpegasus

Ай бұрын

I was looking for this comment, it's both hilarious and frustrating to listen to this woman talk about it with zero idea

@mudgetheexpendable

Ай бұрын

@@metalpegasus She's scary because she doesn't know she is lying.

@tubebrocoli

Ай бұрын

I was looking for this comment. I was like "Seven? Girl what are you even talking about!!?"...

“A lot of people don’t believe that, but just look around” gives major “I’m not gaslighting you’re just crazy” energy. “Just look around” but doesn’t point to a single thing. Mega “You must be under 30 if you don’t understand this, but I won’t elaborate” energy

My cousin was unsuccessfully exorcised by his mother for his cocaine addiction. My Christian ex-roommate and her Lyft driver called me an "abomination" and my bi/trans/goth/atheist/headbanger/kinkster/swinger, etc. "lifestyle" "demonic!" I told them that as a geek, "abomination" means an Incredible Hulk villain! As a goth, it means tentacle monsters in Lovecraftian horror fiction, lol! I also pointed out that demons are the demoted gods and goddesses of defeated ancient pagan faiths.

@zuzap3799

Ай бұрын

As an atheist going through a goth makeover I salute you! May I ask, do you get stared at a lot? I love the alternative aesthetic but I'm self-concious about going out like that

@AngryReptileKeeper

Ай бұрын

My grandmother suggested to my mother when I was just a child that she should have me exorcised. Apparently, my "weird behavior" was a sign of demonic possession and not the Asperger's Syndrome and Tourette's Syndrome that I would be diagnosed with a few years later. My mother, being a sane and rational woman, did not take her advice and kept me away from grandma for a good many years after that.

@epmcgee

13 күн бұрын

And if we ask, defeated by whom? The answer is yet another pagan god. (ESOTERICA has several videos on the origins of Yahweh)

"God gave you your body, so you can't do anything to change it or you're saying you're higher than God." Ok Matt Walsh, then loose the glasses and never be able to see, since God gave you bad eyes, changing that is saying you're higher than God.

@Direwolf1771

Ай бұрын

I hate that exposing the inconsistency and hypocrisy in conservative thinking doesn’t ever accomplish anything. They don’t care, they think it’s a feature, not a bug.

@justicefool3942

Ай бұрын

They will somehow try and claim that it's different for some BS reason.

@andrewwilson9183

Ай бұрын

That isn’t changing the body, and a person is supposed to see, your not supposed to not have limbs

@kylewilliams8114

Ай бұрын

@@andrewwilson9183 second guessing God's designs. God didn't want him to see. You think you know better than God.

@lucyferos205

Ай бұрын

​@@andrewwilson9183If Matt Walsh was supposed to see, why did God make his eyesight poor? That doesn't make any sense

"Are you angry at me or are you possessed?" "Are you asking questions about my religion or are you possessed?" Seriously?

@rhokesh4391

Ай бұрын

It's deflection. "I see you are upset with me, but by attributing you being upset to you being possessed by a demon/a hysterical woman/something else derogatory, I can make sure that I don't have to examine too closely WHY you are upset with me and maybe even come to the conclusion that you may be in the right."

@klingonsexy

Ай бұрын

If I'm expected to "place my faith in a human, who is fallible," I'll decline every time, even if it means following a recommendation from an ancient comic book!

@vintagearisen

Ай бұрын

It's an effective mind control technique. If you're questioning, then that's coming from an invisible evil entity inside you. Doubts? That's a demon. Disagree with me? That's a demon. You can immediately dismiss critics and make followers too frightened to think.

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

@@rhokesh4391 Yup.. It's so easy to just say the person is under the influence of evil. I hate how well it works on some people. Me being angry that my rights are being trampled on, is just me being a silly woman possessed by the demon of feminism or some stupid stuff like that..

@fjalics

Ай бұрын

​​@@einienj3281You need to come up with some retort, like if you don't cut it out, I'm going to call in all the demons, and then you are really going to be in deep sh!t. Maybe get a set of nice horns like I saw at a concert, and that demon skull tequila. Have a little fun with it.

The sobering thought is not that these crazies exist. The sobering thought is that there are millions of people who take them very seriously. 😬

I am 49. In elementary school, I remember learning there were SIX colors- red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and purple. The three primary colors were red, yellow, and blue. The secondary colors were orange, green, and purple. When I got older in art class we learned about the many, many different shades, values...the different variations. Indigo was simply one of the numerous shades of blue. The nonsense that the blonde was saying is utter BS.

Putin's embrace of religion is pure pragmatism and totally cynical.

@excentrisitet7922

Ай бұрын

It's not that easy. There're some evidence that he now actually believes in this nonsense. I must speak vaguely but recent film that speaks about his supposed residence speaks volumes.Just copy these three words in youtube's search and watch the first video that pops up. English subs are present there. показываем «царские» интерьеры From the 15-th minute is the part I'm talking about. 3 minutes since that mark is more than enough to form a picture.

@justicefool3942

Ай бұрын

Yup and it is overwhelmingly evident he doesn't believe in it and only uses it to gain power and restore the Soviet Union. Last year, the Russian Orthodox blessed a new statue of Joseph Stalin. First off, 10 commandments very much oppose idol worship, so already a red flag, but even worse than that, Stalin was the same guy that wanted to eliminate Christianity from the Soviet Union in the first place, yet these supposed "Christians" are praising this tyrant.

@user-vq2xt1xg6j

Ай бұрын

As a Russian, yes it is.

@vintagearisen

Ай бұрын

Trump's as well.

@alansmith4655

Ай бұрын

US conservatives love it.

"He settled on Satanism and Demons because I think that is more believable than Nazis." Mind completely blown. This is absolutely insane.

@kkgauthier

Ай бұрын

It's insane because it defies everything we see in front of our faces. To believe that there is no Nazi problem in Ukraine, you have to ignore ALL the many news stories and documentaries about Ukraine before the invasion. You have to ignore the American politicians' speeches about Ukrainian Nazis that were being made prior to the invasion. And then you have to ignore all the constant Nazi symbolism, and hero worship all over the more recent news.

@dorkangel1076

26 күн бұрын

He also knows there's a section of America who will lap that stuff up and pressure their political leaders to treat it that way as well.

@TheMilitantMazdakite

16 күн бұрын

When Putin accused the west of being demonic, for the second time in his life, he was right. (The first being when he compared the Gaza genocide to the siege of Leningrad). The West is a murderous empire that makes a few people unimaginably rich by plundering most of the rest of the world to the point that they are starving. REVOLUTION!!!!!!

@Isaac-hm6ih

10 күн бұрын

​@@dorkangel1076and largely the same group who've formed an alliance with *actual* neo-nazis. It makes sense he'd target a group who don't support him target than one who, in at least some cases, do.

Literally every day of my life was punctuated by thoughts of “the big sleep” until I accepted my trans identity. I went from wanting to die to seeing myself in the mirror by accepting myself.

@zuzap3799

Ай бұрын

I'm really happy for you! It's so sad to hear about the hate towards the trans community. I'm glad you were able to find peace, I know it can't be easy with all these people discriminating you for just existing.

@InciniumVGC

Ай бұрын

If you had to "transition" then you never really accepted yourself.

@GilboPaints

Ай бұрын

@@zuzap3799 you exist and that makes it better!

@GilboPaints

Ай бұрын

@@InciniumVGC so to anyone who comes by the comments and sees this nonsense, I’m just putting out the reminder that TRANSITIONING IS AN ACT OF SELF ACCEPTANCE AND IS THE TREATMENT FOR GENDER DYSPHORIA Saying what this person said would be like claiming that “if you had to wear glasses then you never had poor vision.” It’s just a jumble of words that preys on self-doubt. Silly. Incorrect. Lame. Anyways, I love myself now. I’m lucky that I found me.

@xXEGPXx

Ай бұрын

@@InciniumVGC I wonder if you will ever transition from being an immature boy into a man

“If you challenge what he’s saying, if you doubt that demons exist, if you have any issues with the theodicies if you raise the problem of evil, those are all signs that you may have a demon.” It’s essentially a classic case of poisoning the well. You can’t argue with them without being labeled as evil or a demon or being under the influence of one because they have already preemptively marked any use of sound logic or reason as evil from the jump. I’m slowly learning that you cannot reason with people who don’t value reason. You have to push past these people and win other people over to reason before their minds are transformed by this illogical mindset.

@benpholmes

12 күн бұрын

It's like the Salem witch trials all over again.

My folks would use spiritual warfare as basically an excuse to abuse me and my siblings and not get treatment despite being very mentally ill. Whenever I was going through something they would leave me to my own devices to scream at fictional beings at a deafening volume. They would destroy my stuff, try to get me to spread insane conspiracies, shake me for hours, try to separate me from "demonic" friends and hobbies constantly, etc. Among the worst is when they claimed I had a religious experience in my dreams and wouldn't believe me when I told them I didn't. This caused them to scream at me for over an hour and a half even breaking into my room to keep going when I tried to leave the conversation that was clearly going nowhere valuable. As far as I'm concerned calling that the worst part of the faith is right on the money.

@notforkliftcertified7884

Ай бұрын

That was so terrifying to read I can't imagine the pain you must have gone through from that experience, I am so sorry that happened to you. I hope things are better for you and will continue to get better, and wish you well.

@zk2741

Ай бұрын

Those parents need to be arrested

@stickiedmin6508

Ай бұрын

Are things okay now, or 'better' at least? Are you safe?

@ginafrancis4950

Ай бұрын

Same thing going on in Mormon world now. People believing in demonic possession abusing and murdering their children because they believe children to be possessed. Absolutely mind boggling and frankly terrifying for people to still believe in this insanity in the 21st century.

@Muhluri

Ай бұрын

I'm sorry that you went through that

"If you have questions and have confusion, I actually think you're in good company." Very good quote, from both a religious and secular stand point imo. You shouldn't be afraid to ask questions or find issues with your theology.

@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic

Ай бұрын

Imo the best books in the Bible are the ones with the most complicated takes. Ecclesiastes and Job in particular.

@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith

Ай бұрын

As a wise man uses for his catch phrase, "Assume nothing, Question EVERYTHING, Start thinking." - Seth Andrews.

@melissamarsh2219

Ай бұрын

And this is why they killed Socrates 😢

@erickalear7609

Ай бұрын

When I was 17,I asked my pastor about my issues with the Bible being so contradictory with itself. His answer has guided everything in my life, "Keep asking questions. You'll only find out what you believe and who you are if you question everything." So I did. It made me an atheist.

@Sam-dn5qh

23 күн бұрын

I have to question the intelligence of the believers and out of a sense of charity attribute their beliefs to their social indoctrination and propaganda that supports it.

As a parent, I have to be wary of every Christian I come across. Because I just don't know which one is prepared to commit murder to "save" my kids from my evil, atheist influence. According to their worldviews, the "evil" of murdering me could be justified in saving the souls of my two children. One life to save two others. The simple fact their beliefs _could_ allow for that is horrifying.

@smitty121981

7 күн бұрын

I've literally never encountered anything even vaguely like what you are describing in any Christian circle.

@adamdeyton4953

5 күн бұрын

I thought it was the Muslims that killed gays

@J-manli

Күн бұрын

@@smitty121981 “My anecdotally experience doesn’t match with your anecdotal experience so therefore your experience is invalid.” That’s what you sound like.

@smitty121981

Күн бұрын

@@J-manli no actually calling them out for a wildly disingenuous characterization of Christians is what I sound like. Without going to google, what is the last instance you can think of, in which a Christian literally MURDERED someone to "save them from evil"??? Or murdered a parent to save the children??? They even admit at the end of their comment that it merely "could" happen, making it a totally irrational fear. The fact that you would leap to defend this appalling lack of rationality is crazy.

The clip of that last guy just blew my mind. So, if you question anything about the Bible that makes you demon possessed? How convenient. It's a great way to dismiss logical arguments.

@This-Was-Sparta

Ай бұрын

I know right? I really can't imagine thinking about that for more than a few seconds and not immediately realising what a ridiculous thing that is to say...

The demonic whispering and ominous music in the background playing to a dude with "iStock" watermarks plastered all over his body is peak video essay, not gonna lie.

@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic

Ай бұрын

It is the only way I will depict pseudo-Paul, the patron saint of pseudepigraphy

@mungelomwaangasikateyo376

Ай бұрын

A person who recognises art...

@Holy-Rowlo88

Ай бұрын

​@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic hope that saves you from eternity in Hell

@CharlieEarthRoast

Ай бұрын

I didn't get your comment until it got to that part. hahaha. so great

@brandonmichael4105

Ай бұрын

@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic I'm writing pseudopigrapha about you Drew, but anyone who denies it was written by you will be consumed by demons, that way you can never be honest

People who believe demons are real are far more frightening than demons since people are real & demons aren't.

@seanmcmichael2551

Ай бұрын

@toddonhigh True that.

@rhokesh4391

Ай бұрын

The one thing I'm most afraid of is my fellow humans' fears...

@aAaa-gj1lh

Ай бұрын

Explain why so.

@klingonsexy

Ай бұрын

@@aAaa-gj1lh I agree with rhokesh4391 because I know personally of humans (Holiness Church members) who violently attacked, even killed other humans because they believed the victim was "demonically possessed." Never heard of or saw gawd do it himself!

@FrozEnbyWolf150

Ай бұрын

When they say "demons" they mean people. When they talk about all the things that should be done to "demons" they're talking about people. Always has been, always will be.

I'm from Argentina, and we've been falling through the same cycles as the us lately... Last week 4 lesbians were attacked on ther bedroom, a man threw a bomb at them and didn't let them get out. 3 of them died. This is not a coincidence, the new government has been promoting hate speech, in a country that has always been foward in LGBT issues, a country that has had legal same sex marrige since 2010. I'm terrified for me and my brother's lives as queer people.

@ivanmengualalvarez7423

19 күн бұрын

I'm so sorry that you have to suffer Milei and his insanity. That's just terrible

@lauvogel6039

19 күн бұрын

@@ivanmengualalvarez7423 that man is absolutely insane. And the people around him benefit from it so they stick around it's awful. Thanks for the comment, it helps a little to see it acknowledge outside of the country.

@gabor6259

15 күн бұрын

😢 I'm sorry.

@sebastianbache8862

11 күн бұрын

Seek asylum, don't wait for the worst to happen.

@davidlafleche1142

10 күн бұрын

Christians never start wars or commit terrorist acts. "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God" (Matthew 5:9, KJV).

My mom is a firm believer that there is a "war being waged and that the Bible is her sword and shield." Its almost cult like

@Isaac-hm6ih

10 күн бұрын

That kind of thinking is one of the measurements used in classifying whether something is a cult. It's not cult *like*, it's more or less a defining feature of cults (although not necessarily exclusive to them).

@crashlag420

10 күн бұрын

@@Isaac-hm6ih Either way it's taken over everything about her. I can't have a normal conversation with her about literally anything without her citing scripture like I haven't read the Bible. She won't take accountability for anything she's done, it just really worries me where it's going because it seems to me like her faith has been weaponized.

@Isaac-hm6ih

10 күн бұрын

@@crashlag420 I'm sorry, I hope she comes back to the vicinity of reality.

In the garden we were punished for taking from "the tree of knowledge of good and evil", implying that knowing the difference between good and evil is divine providence and we were punished for tasting of that knowledge. How are so many Abrahamnic zealots willing to condenn some as evil and praise others as good when its the first warning their holy book attempts to teach them?

@littlebitofhope1489

Ай бұрын

It's worse than that. The bible clearly states that god created evil. If god is absolutely powerful and knowing, he is absolutely responsible for that evil. That put evil squarely on HIS shoulders. Plus, how can there be a war between good and evil, when evil is god's creature? If they condemn evil, they are condemning their god's creation. If they condemn evil creatures, they are condemning GOD's creatures because he created them. It makes NO sense at all. How do we know god is evil? He created Adam and Eve with no knowledge of right and wrong, good and evil, and then gave them RULES. Then he punishes Eve for all eternity for breaking a rule it was impossible for her to know what wrong to break. If that isn't evil, I don't know what is.

@juststatedtheobvious9633

Ай бұрын

Numbers 31:17-18 and Second Samuel 24 do a good job of showing how perverted and blood thirsty the Bible really is.

@billklatsch5058

Ай бұрын

@@littlebitofhope1489 Its basically punishing a baby left alone in a contol room for nukes for launching one by (insert stuff that a baby would do). Its so obvious that it was a set up situation. (assuming its true for the fun of it) And to my shame i have to admit the all the years i was a raised in my biblical literalist family (i even had the whole bible as audiobook and loved to listen to it while playing legos) i never really thought about it. It took me into my late teens to get the message...

@carrieohio

Ай бұрын

​@@littlebitofhope1489all that is how you know it's false. Evolution is true. God probably doesn't exist, but if he did, he's not doing dumb stuff with snakes and apples, and people on fig leaf clothes. He's doing science if he exists, which is objective and not concerned with feelings.

@littlebitofhope1489

Ай бұрын

@@carrieohio It's how I know that it is all the creation of the human brain, and most likely a Schizophrenic one.

Popularity is not an indication of intellectual veracity. That would assume that most people know what they’re talking about.

@MrAdamo

Ай бұрын

@@dffndjdjdone day you will be able to point out why something is fallacious without pointing to a big book of fallacies. Until then, stay in school, don’t do drugs, and listen to your parents.

@Sauvenil

Ай бұрын

@@MrAdamo The "Big Book of Fallacies" is something everyone should know, both to spot other people using them, and to avoid using them yourself. Not sure why you'd make this comment.

@caleblee104

Ай бұрын

​@@MrAdamoI agree, but your reply holds a sense of condemnation. Like citing a fallacy instead of articulating your argument in a meaningful way, applying your personal judgments to someone doesn't help in applying a lesson.

@klingonsexy

Ай бұрын

That accurately explains the proliferation of evangelical cults!

@rhokesh4391

Ай бұрын

Actually, I would go so far as to say popularity is the opposite of intellectual veracity.

Lila Rose used the metaphor of being in a tornado to represent evil, but that’s like someone telling you you’re in the middle of a tornado but you can’t see and verify that there’s a tornado and nobody else can either, but they’re adamant you’re both in a tornado.

@emiliap8790

20 күн бұрын

Lol

There are several advantages of a War Against Evil. First, you are not constrained by moral considerations, because your opponents are not human beings, and the stakes are infinite. Second, negotiation is not an option, and need not be considered. And finally, you can't possibly be wrong.

Fun fact: the rainbow having 7 colors is a Christian imposition on the rainbow. It was Isaac Newton who purportedly decided the rainbow should have 7 colors (he personally only perceived 5 but added 2 more to get 7) because it was God's number and matched up with other "divine" instances of 7 (the 7 notes in western music, the seven days of the week, the 7 planets known at the time, etc...). The rainbow flag, on the other hand, originally had 8 stripes. Pink was removed due to a fabric shortage, and turquoise was removed due to the fact that the odd number of stripes resulted in the center green stripe being completely hidden due to the pole the flag was displayed on obscuring the middle of the flag. Thus the flag was left with 6 colors.

@riluna3695

Ай бұрын

It fucking figures. All these claims of how these numbers mean such deep things always assume that they just "happened". That the holy lineups are God's handiwork and not some guy going "hey, I heard God likes the number 7, so I'm going to take this thing and very speciifically make it reference that number". Then, suddenly, look! A rainbow has seven colors! What a miracle! It's embarrassing to keep seeing this play out _time_ and _time_ again. I'm sick to death of people latching onto the very first thing they see that supports their worldview, and not giving it any further research or even *thought.* And then they have the audacity to say that they understand the world better than we do. No amount of clever, holy symbolism is going to tell you what's in a sealed box better than just opening it and checking. And arguing against the person who actually looked is incredibly foolish. Open. The damn. Box.

@user-tp8ut7cs6j

Ай бұрын

That's right, ideas about the number 7 being scared is rooted in the part of Genesis where god created the world in 7 days. It is also based on philosophical ideas rooted in the Pythagorean cult, whose ideas about sacred geometry (such as the belief that numbers like 3, 7 and 12 are divine) was absorbed into Greco-Roman Christianity in the middle ages. The rainbow is just the visible spectrum and you could easily argue that there are "colors" that we can't see, such as infrared or ultraviolet. The visible spectrum could really be divided anyway we choose. There are actually some groups of people who don't recognize colors that we do recognize in the west. The Himba people don't have a word for the color green and don't distinguish between the colors, blue and green. When tested, the Himba actually have a more difficult time distinguishing between shades of green than peoples who have a separate word for the color green. There's lots of evidence showing that how we divide colors is entirely conditioned by our language. I mean, why do we have an entirely separate word for the color pink, when it's actually just a tint of red? Some historians believe that many ancient people didn't recognize the color blue because blue is hardly mentioned in many ancient texts and when things that we recognize as blue today (such as the sky or the sea) are mentioned in many ancient texts, they have all kinds of strange color descriptions of it. A good example is in the Iliad, when Homer compares the color of the sea to the color of wine.

@Da_bear-ij9gm

Ай бұрын

@@user-tp8ut7cs6jexcept that he didn’t create it in seven days. In the book he creates it in six days. The seventh day is just for rest

@user-tp8ut7cs6j

Ай бұрын

@@Da_bear-ij9gm You're missing my point, the point is, the number 7 was considered sacred to the the Hebrews, Greeks and early Christians. That number being considered sacred is why Newton arranged the visible spectrum into 7 colors. The number of colors we assign to the spectrum is arbitrary. I'm aware of Genesis, that part of the creation myth was a symbolic way of saying that people should divide time into intervals of 7. The Burmese have 8 days in their week. None of these divisions are based on any kind of objective reality. These are all cultural constructs. That person's comment about 6 colors in the Pride flag representing Satanism is ridiculous, because according to her, the "real" rainbow has 7 colors. She's basically acting like a numerologist and seeing patterns and meanings in numbers that aren't actually there.

@justice8718

Ай бұрын

@@user-tp8ut7cs6j Oh boy, tell me a none-Christian society that was stable and happy.

All that silly superstition comes undone with the question so often posed by toddlers: "Why doesn't God just kill the devil?"

@Muhluri

Ай бұрын

"because God is good"

@yayayayya4731

Ай бұрын

"all powerful" god when i ask him to use his powers to stop evil :

@bridgetgress

Ай бұрын

Because allowing creatures to choose Him (allowing free will) is a greater good than forcing people (or angels) to choose Him under the threat of death.

@blondequijote

Ай бұрын

​He still threatens everyone with hell. Good Wizard (G-d for short) believes in all of us and the Bill of Rights. His Holy Text tells us that believers in Harry Potter's victory over Voldmort can go to Hogwarts on full-ride scholarships. CyberBohemians 4:13-14 "G-d doesn’t threaten unbelievers with hellfire because He doesn’t believe in it. The Holy Text is being sent to save humanity from the hell they’re currently making in the non-magic world."

@Jeff-cn9up

Ай бұрын

You assume that there is any difference between them. If they existed, I would posit that they are the same being, lying about who did what.

Thank you for hitting that bit at the end there, about the 'unfalsifiability problem' - the largest 'benefit' to claiming that anyone who disagrees with you is a Satanist or is demon-possessed or whatever, is you basically get to ignore everything they say, because 'by definition' anything said by someone Evil is going to be designed to deceive you and hurt you. You don't have to care if they make a valid point or not, because 'demons are well known for hiding a lie inside the truth', etc etc. It essentially becomes impossible to address the possibility that you *might* be wrong about *anything*, because all you need to do is just say the word "demons!' loud enough that the other person can't get a word in. It's frankly maddening, and I frequently remind myself how lucky I am to have gotten away from that world.

Colors and Meanings Red: Life Orange: Healing Yellow: Sunlight Green: Nature Blue: Harmony Purple: Spirit (Note: The original flag also included hot pink for sex and turquoise for magic/art, which were later removed due to fabric unavailability.)

The real tragedy is that projecting the concept of supreme evil onto the world is the fast track to becoming the worst thing you can imagine.

As an LGBT person, I don't care if people are "ex-gay" or whatever. I don't care if being LGBT is a choice, because I don't believe others have the right to judge my choices in the first place. The implication of the ex-gay movement is that not being gay is the correct way to be, and I reject that notion.

@bubbles581

Ай бұрын

I agree. Personally think choosing to be LGBT is an inherently stronger position than feeling trapped by forces outside of one's control. We should absolutely allow others to practice their own life choices.

@louisshimika5680

Ай бұрын

We cannot fully judge each other but truly we shall all be judged one day when the time comes.

@user-tp8ut7cs6j

Ай бұрын

I always find it strange how a straight person can tell me what being gay is all about, even though they aren't gay themselves. A heterosexual person telling a queer person that their sexuality is a choice is like a man telling a woman that menstrual cramps don't actually hurt. As a person who has never experienced that condition, how could they possibly think that they understand it more than someone who has. I agree with you, whether or not being queer is a choice is irrelevant. There is no credible evidence that queer people cause any harm to others by being open about their sexuality. There's no violation of the harm principle caused by the "choice" to be gay, so there's no reason to pathologize it.

@newsystembad

Ай бұрын

​@@louisshimika5680And, conveniently, that judge toooooootally believes all the same things you do. But I'm sure I wouldn't know her, she goes to a different school, in Canada

@davidtucker9498

Ай бұрын

Being addicted to crack cocaine is bad, and you shouldn't do it.

It’s scary how people go around believing in demons and spirits 💀

Matt Walsh accidentally made liberalism sound cool as hell

16:44 "Evil with a capital E is a discourse, and it's ultimately a form of intellectual laziness" What a show stopper of a line.

@SecularMentat

Ай бұрын

Indeed, that's basically the whole show.

@hugonobody3352

Ай бұрын

@@SecularMentat explain. How so, exactly?

@SecularMentat

Ай бұрын

@@hugonobody3352that seems like a great place to pick up the author who literally wrote the book on this topic.

@justice8718

Ай бұрын

Oh boy, you probably think you’re better than Solomon.

@Be_A_Bi_Warlock

Ай бұрын

@@justice8718I am.

"Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a God, but never without a belief in a devil.” -Eric Hoffer

@klingonsexy

Ай бұрын

So true! Even if the "devil" is only an especially convincing human!

@BKNeifert

Ай бұрын

Wise man. Don't see Hoffer quoted very often. Christians are that "Devil" these days, though--speaking on his terms. So keep that in mind.

@BKNeifert

Ай бұрын

@Javline26722 No, you misunderstand the point of what Eric's saying.

@BKNeifert

Ай бұрын

@Javline26722 The devil is an enemy, or a boogieman.

@testsubject2496

Ай бұрын

​@Javline26722 You should talk to a rahbie about whether Satan exists in Judaism and whether belif in God necessitates belief in the devil.

Doesn't anyone think it bizarre that there would be a herd of 2,000 pigs in first century Judea? What Jews would keep such a herd of animals that they were forbidden to eat (or even touch!), and for what purpose? A herd of that size, comparable to a modern hog farm, would be a huge and incredibly expensive operation for that time, and not even remotely sustainable in Judea's climate. It is inconceivable that any herd of wild pigs could exist on that scale. Pigs use up huge quantities of water (a herd of that size would require 350 gallons per day just to stay alive) and eat food that competes with human consumption. They are not desert animals, and even in the best-watered part of Judea they would be an ecological and economic disaster ---- not to mention the fact that anyone who kept such a herd would face the wrath of everyone, not just the priesthood. The story is absurd on the face of it, even discounting the supernatural elements.

@rsmlinar1720

20 күн бұрын

...Judea was under Roman control. Romams did eat pigs. Plenty of good arguments against the bible, that one is not one of them im afraid

@Andrei-sg7lu

14 күн бұрын

The pagans ate pork.

@philpaine3068

14 күн бұрын

@@Andrei-sg7lu The number of non-Jews in Judea during the Herodian regime was not even remotely large enough to support that scale of pig farming, and it would have been ecologically impossible for all the reasons cited above. Herod was a client king, not the governor of a province integral to the Empire, and his power was secured by his own local army, and the presence of Roman legions in neighboring Syria that could be deployed to prop him up if there was a local revolt. There were some Syrians and Nabataeans in Jerusalem. With the establishment of direct Roman rule in 6 AD, there would have been a larger number of foreigners and a modest number of Roman soldiers in Caesarea. Roman soldiers were fed unleavened bread and porridge supplemented by beans and pulses, and small portions of dried meat (when available). It is true that Roman soldiers were issued bacon where it was available ---- but we are not talking about a large number of soldiers. For a long list of reasons, the presence of a herd of 2,000 pigs in a place where the mere presence of a single pig could have triggered a riot and it was not economically or physically practical to raise swine is not plausible. And whatever swine were being raised in Judea were not wandering around loose.

As a LGBT person directly suffering from the supreme evil narrative in Russia, it's very important to me that you mentioned it. Thank you! ❤

"Demons love to hide, so IF you don't see any demons that just means there's SO many demons there, just hiding. BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID. FEAR FEAR FEAR."

@AENock

Ай бұрын

Same logic Jesse Duplantis and Kenneth Copeland use to justify multimillion dollar airplanes. It's how hyperconservative AM radio shock jocks warped a rural populace into religious fanatics. It's how Catholics and later Protestants consolidated influence (and revenue). It's simple power structuring.

@Guy_With_A_Laser

Ай бұрын

Don't worry, I will sell you this rock that will keep demons away, it costs $100. Once you have it, you won't have to worry about demons anymore. You'll be able to see it's working because you won't see any demons.

@hugonobody3352

Ай бұрын

Fear what? If you follow the word of God demons don't have power over you or your choices.

@Korkzorz

Ай бұрын

You are trying to scare people with the adult version of the Boogeyman.. They aren't there Magis isn't real Get over it

@synthetic240

Ай бұрын

@@Korkzorz I was mocking the tiktok tween exorcist.

As a Non-Christian religious person, I always found it heartbreaking how nothing can be as divisive as religion - and it's outright terrifying that people will go to the length of demonizing the beliefs or non-beliefs of others. Talking positively about your own religion is one matter; attempting to crush those of others something else entirely.

@TheOmegaXicor

Ай бұрын

the "no true scotsman" fallacy is strong in religion, whatever you do YOU are good and holy and precious and loved, if someone does something you don't like, they are a blasphemer against god and will suffer for the longest amount of time we can concieve of (even though eternity is a nebulous concept that ends on judgement day). It is so pathetically sad...

@rtredux9726

Ай бұрын

People treat politics as such as well. People will disagree to very smallest differences. That’s the gift of individuality

@desertsand8778

Ай бұрын

What is this 2009 all over again? You atheists need to get a life

@pixality7902

Ай бұрын

I disagree. I don't hate people but I don't give them a pass for their choices either. The problem with religions like Christianity is they are inherently damaging at their core. The story of Jesus is about sacrificing an innocent person to absolve "guilty" people of past and future misdeeds (guilty being whatever God's decided, even if its not hurting anyone). The religion is rooted in sexism and racism. It has a lot of teachings that reinforce those ideas. Lots of things are not okay to do to other Israelis but are fine to do to "other" people. Its tribalism and othering people in that way is dangerous, and inherently problematic. I don't care how a new age church might spin it. You can't build a nice house with a rotten foundation. Some individuals may have their heart in the right place, but they still choose to ignore all of the horrific things in their own text and the way their current beliefs trace back to those things. I'm not going to do awful things to those people but I do see their religion as a reflection of their intelligence, lack of ability to think for themselves, and willingness to believe anything without evidence as long as it's something they want to believe. Obviously it's different for people held hostage to their religion or who were born into extremist religions that abuse them (particularly true for some women), but the second a person does something like harm their child in the name of religion (for instance, female genital mutililation, and to some extent, circumcision), they lose much of the benefit of the doubt because I see their victims as greater victims than someone who was a victim and also became an abuser. Many of these religions are actively damaging. Its also not uncommon for them to push into government because that is what their religion asks them to do. I believe in live and let live when nobody is harmed. Large scale organized religion cannot do that. Getting that many people together is a recipe for disaster. It reminds me of working at a large company doing a bunch of stupid, unnecessary shit that is less efficient just because that's how it's always been done and people may not even know why it was done that way to begin with. I wait for them to act objectionable but of course they always do because the very premise of their religion is being an asshole to others and letting shit slide within the tribe.

@justice8718

Ай бұрын

Christ came here to divide and take what is his. Seriously, understand my God.

Interesting topic. A struggle I have is I see all preachers, especially self-styled non denominational types, as con men preying on the poor and ignorant though not exclusively. This has heightened greatly since living in the Philippines past 20 years where the 2 best businesses are politics and religion.

It’s frustrating that they think intersex people are evil when they’re literally born with those biological traits. By their own logic, the fact that intersex humans exist should be proof that God made a variety of human types and not only two

Isaac Newton decided the rainbow had seven colors bc he believed seven was a magic number. So he split purple into indigo and violet. And the original pride flag had 8 stripes. What a ridiculous distraction from the fact that they have no reasons besides their hate.

I’m currently living with my family, who I am in the closet to, and I routinely hear from my mother that “(insert fact or idea here) is a lie from the devil!” Her most recent of these infamous rants was that “the idea that people cannot afford to get married and have children is a lie from the devil!”… I want to argue the point but when someone demonizes an entire idea like that there is literally nothing you can say 💀

@pansepot1490

Ай бұрын

Keep your head low until you have to rely on them financially. Find a support network, get an education in whatever you feel is right for you, get a job and move out as soon as you can. No offense but you’re right. When people are so entrenched in their obsessions it’s impossible to have a rational conversation. 🤗 all the best.👋

@hugonobody3352

Ай бұрын

The idea of demonic influence is valid, honestly but it's still up to us to resist temptations, demonic or not. The whole point of Satan is to lure the children of God away from his creator to spite him. God loves us and to see us turn away from him pains him. So you could say whatever thing, assuming the objective is to turn away from God such as watching "nrop" (so the KZread AI doesn't delete the comment) or theft could honestly be either demonic influence or simple temptation. Does it sound insane? Yeah sometimes. Does it make sense when you actually think about the theology? Yes.

@Meyer-gp7nq

Ай бұрын

The idea that Satan does not exist is a lie from the devil. I promise you. Do not believe it

@pixality7902

Ай бұрын

Sounds like someone who wants someone to blame instead of taking accountability for her own actions. In this case she's applying it to others but that's the root of it. Christians hate accountability. Their entire text revolves around not taking accountability for their own misdeeds. Instead they celebrate sacrificing an innocent person to absolve them of any future misdeeds. Any sane, decent person recognizes how horrific the entire idea is, yet millions of people celebrate it.

@darlalathan6143

Ай бұрын

It helps if you know that demons are demoted gods of earlier religions beaten in wars by monotheists.

I like the rephrased opposite of Charles Baudlaire quote: "The greatest evil the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he exists"

@FurFromTheBear

25 күн бұрын

How would a wise man such as yourself explain evil? Or is that a myth also? I’d point to October 7th as evidence of evil.

@andyhx2

24 күн бұрын

@@FurFromTheBear Wise man? Thank you! Evil is a social construct. Evil an adjective that describes that which we as humans view unacceptable, we view it as unacceptable because it makes life miserable, it causes pain and suffering, death and destruction, struggle and hardship. Often evil is associated with that which causes these things for nothing more that a pleasure from causing those things. This is however rarely true and in reality the evil acts are perpetrated as a method of accomplishing goals which might be selfish, self-righteous or even by some subjective measure as good. Religious language hijacked the word evil, to describe acts that are forbiden by the doctrine of particulare religion or are that which are done through agency of supernatural entity deemed as evil. Evil is within humans but not as supernatural entity pulling strings, but as part of our destructive nature that through evolution served us to survive hardships of existance. October 7th was an evidence of evil - but not evidence of supernatural evil, but the evil within human kind.

@edorasmarauder5761

15 күн бұрын

@@andyhx2So all crimes done just because you can is not evil according to you? I would refrain from using the term “social construct” when there’s a lot of ways to abuse this argument.

@MySerpentine

15 күн бұрын

@@edorasmarauder5761 Does the crime hurt anyone? That's the important part.

@edorasmarauder5761

15 күн бұрын

@@MySerpentine Large majority of crimes do. And I’m not talking about petty theft.

I just constantly ponder the idea of how HORRIBLE it is to live a life of constant belief that evil surrounds you, is out to get you and/or your family, and it’s your sole responsibility or conviction to fight against it. How stressful and awful this must be. How horrible must it feel to genuinely believe that people are possessed or evil most of the time? I lived in that fear once, surrounded by religion 24/7. I quietly knew that someday I wouldn’t be a part of religion, and knew early on there was no way I was going to heaven because I DIDN’T believe, no matter how hard I tried after I was capable of rational thought. And THAT is terrifying for a young developing child and young teen. People ask me what my issue is with religion and religious people… the harms it has caused, causes, and can cause directly is unable to be expressed or be put into a simple number. And these people who believe they are not harming others: are simply wrong nine times out of ten. It’s unethical. Religion is not ethical at all.

It was never about good vs evil, it was always about freedom vs control

@baruchgoldberg6280

Ай бұрын

not necessarily.. thousands of years ago they didnt understgand how the world worked. Judaism was more about eth9ical living and surving trauma... and overcoming struggles. Thats why its texts caught on.. but it was never like christianity where they had this heavenly war. thats stupidity even for religion lol

@59master60

Ай бұрын

@@baruchgoldberg6280 oh

@baruchgoldberg6280

Ай бұрын

@@59master60 but it’s good mythology to express good vs evil dualism. But it’s just not a monotheistic ideology or mythology.

@baruchgoldberg6280

Ай бұрын

@@59master60 oh .. but the threat of eternal hell fire and the reward of eternal bliss after death is DEFINITELY about control. But what I meant was the original theology of Judaism was about the here and now. & it was a tribal religion; not a mass religion of some empire or large kingdom. I think the control factors came later & are worked into Xtian texts like “be a good slave for Jesus” “follow the law” hell/ heaven etc

@badart3204

Ай бұрын

Why is freedom good? Why is control bad? What should be free and what should be controlled towards what objective? That’s where religion often comes into play bc there is no way to prove values

When I was stationed in San Diego there was a parish that sent vans to the barracks to pick sailors up and take them to church. That church scared me. It was militaristic, every idea is couched deeply in a cosmic, demonic war. This was 2008. I don't understand the levels of intentional misunderstanding required to follow and share these types of ideas.

Imagine living in the 21st century and thinking that literal RPG video game demons are real...

The whole spiritual warfare concept makes believers feel like they are really doing something powerful, instead of believing in Spiderman fighting super villains. Back in the late 1980s, I used to get up before dawn and walk the town with pastors, praying and binding demons, anointing doorways of businesses with olive oil (with myrrh and frankincense to give it extra bible power...). Now I look back on those days and shake my head at our ardent belief in imaginary beings. Even the oft quoted malarkey about the red-hot idol Molech has been demonstrated to be fictional and the story was designed to create outrage, and outrage is what fuels today's conspiracies. Outrage doesn't care about reality and evidence, just winning a perceived battle. That is why it is so politically useful.

@Danleesixdoublefive321

27 күн бұрын

I preferred lord of the rings trilogy 😅

I believe Ben Franklin said “The only rational response to an irrational proposition is ridicule.”

@LittleMAC78

Ай бұрын

I'd have to, respectfully, disagree with that being a rational response at all. Reacting with ridicule rather than calm rationalised explanation of why somebody else's position is disagreed with (or flat just wrong!) is unlikely to convince the person (or group) being corrected to listen. The ridiculing would be more likely to make them more defensive and less open to listening and perhaps learning something. It may be an INSTINCTIVE response to use ridicule but it would not be rational.

@Cool-Vest_Leo

Ай бұрын

Yeah pal that's a great way to make friends. Ol' Benny Boy had a lot of great ideas, but this was not one of them.

@wizardoffrobozz

Ай бұрын

@ericowens854 I thought that too. Just looked it up: Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.-Thomas Jefferson

@voltekthecyborg7898

28 күн бұрын

@@LittleMAC78 I agree. So many New Atheists and False Christians just ridicule each other, and then they proceed to ridicule either actual Christians, or actual atheists. It's quite sad.

@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree

27 күн бұрын

@@LittleMAC78 Have you TRIED being rational with, for example, a Flat Earther? Rationality only works on rationality.

It's a bit comical to say that an omnipotent creature is ever in any sort of "battle" with anything else.

@JD-wu5pf

Ай бұрын

Christians will be like, "My God is omnipotent. Also, he needs help opening this jar of pickles. Also, he's actually 3 deities wearing a trenchcoat, and they're all identical and all also the same."

@rokaq5163

Ай бұрын

@@JD-wu5pf Best definition of the Holy Trinity to ever graze my sights

@Rawnblade13

29 күн бұрын

​@@JD-wu5pfChristianity falls apart when you start applying basic logic to it...

@tonycook7679

26 күн бұрын

Now, now, don't be so mean to christians, poking fun at their beliefs just feels cruel to me. They can't help being easy to prey upon, hence their weakness to conspiracies of all kinds. Q or G, they are both natural beliefs for these people.

@inyobill

25 күн бұрын

Happily the all-powerful being has puny humans to stick up for it.

Great convo, will definitely check out his books!

It's always a great video when you and Joseph link up.

Politics and religion is a very dangerous mixture.

@Tuubasd

Ай бұрын

Religion is a very dangerous mixture.

@CelestialVenerableValinor

Ай бұрын

Religion is political.

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

​@@Tuubasd True.

@DakuHonoo

Ай бұрын

religion is politics

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

@@DakuHonoo Nah, not really though. In my country they are 2 very different things. But sure, being conservative and religion usually go hand in hand.

I grew up very active in church, and went to fundamental charismatic churches for years, UNTIL I started taking a hard look at the difference between the God that Christ taught, and the god of the old testament. They're opposites. I didn't know what all I'd discover with information on the subject, I just knew what I knew. One problem with some Christians is excusing the actions, character, ethics, and morals of the old testament god as being ok to do because he's God, and being in their self-righteous and own entitlement, it's then ok for them to behave similarly, even though Christ never behaved that way, and rebukes the OT god, Moses, etc. If their God has no problems with commiting all these wrong.... It had become noticable to me that they had more faith in what the devil was doing and going to do, having the power and control to do it, far more than having faith in God. And they'd give the devil or demons credit for things that were God's. The creator didn't create a universe far more full of evils than the good. And their wanting to override our free will and dictate to everyone else how to behave, is what I'd consider dark or black magic, at least the kind of magic we're never supposed to do. They're running now with this idea about abortion and the LGBTQ+ community, I would refer them to certain things in their own Bible. Several times it refers to the fact that it takes "having the breath of life to become a Living Soul", so unless it can breath, it's not a living soul. Besides, if God is all knowing, why would God send a soul into a body that is either going to be aborted or miscarriaged? Is he too stupid? Is he trying to trick us into a painful situation, and then get to blame us for it? Hahaha, OMG. Also them going by what the jerk of a god in the old testament says about gays, instead of what Jesus said and what's in the new testament, is just a way to be superior and put others down. Whereas Christ said, Gal. 3:28 says, "There is neither Jew nor Gentile,Slave nor Free, Male nor Female, for you are all One in Christ." If your meat suit doesn't matter, then the gay thing isn't an issue. 🙏😎👍💜

@pixality7902

Ай бұрын

They kind of need to dismiss them to not feel shitty about their choice to worship an evil God. God is infallible. That means everything he's done was the right thing to do. Including murdering innocents as he did with the Egyptians. He didn't kill the Pharoah. He actively ensured he wouldn't give in until God got to kill a bunch of Egyptians, many of whom were children. They celebrate passover and its absolutely dystopian how they gloss over what was done to them and other people by their God. I learned how much it is about who they give authority to do horrific things because I was told the same thing when I mentioned how common miscarriages are and how God is the number one abortion provider (even when it's unwanted). Even their own religion was more about being nice to other Israelis but allowed and encouraged them to do awful shit to people who weren't in their group. Ive received the response more than once that he was the one with authority to do it. Its downright scary and people who believe that shit are dangerous.

@Asa-Plant

Ай бұрын

not sure if you are misinformed or confused or just outright taking everything out of context to make a point but you are wrong in all cases, "having the breath of life to become a Living Soul" does not mean to breathe, this is in GENESIS 2:7 "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." the meaning of this passage is God gave man a Soul that is it. if you are going to make an argument at least try and have some understanding of what it is you are arguing about. for anyone else reading Context matters in all things, do your own research get wisdom and understanding even a well-educated atheist would agree with me on that don't blindly follow or hate, whatever you do in life good or evil do it with understanding do it with purpose.

@justice8718

Ай бұрын

Opposites???? Hahah Read revelations, Christ is definitely the same dude from Genesis.

@Dovahkiin0117

27 күн бұрын

@@justice8718wanna look up when that was written Hell the Catholic Church almost kicked it out the canon 😂

Must be nice to have life figured out like that. Really comfortable. "If you question my thin logic, you have a demon, and that's a fact, because I said so."

I agree with him, having grown up in the 80’s as a kid. People were panicking about metal music, lyrics and subliminal satanic messages. Nowadays the potential for more threatening incidents is present. I have 2 sociology degrees and sociology of religion was 1 of my favorite courses. I did my main assignment on the Japanese cult Aum Shinrikyo, but Q-Anon was my second choice.

@user-tp8ut7cs6j

Ай бұрын

I personally think the whole Q-Anon thing and these made up issues about indoctrinating children is a scheme to get people to vote against their interests and defund public institutions of education and healthcare. Convince people that public schools are indoctrinating your children and that public healthcare providers are killing and mutilating children and they're more likely to approve of the complete privatization of healthcare and education.

You forget that churches are businesses, too. You should read up on the Serbian orthodox church and how it sacrificed people to maintain its relevance during the Ottoman rule.

@ib368

Ай бұрын

I’ve never heard about this, and this coming from a Bosnian! 😮

@cosmic2750

Ай бұрын

Dude even today. Look at the goddamn Megachurches (of which most, unsurprisingly, exist in America). They literally look like concert halls. Compare that to like actual churches in European countries and notice the STARK difference (not saying they don’t exploit people, but STILL the difference couldn’t be more significant)

@hugonobody3352

Ай бұрын

@@cosmic2750 Oh come on. You can't compare the obvious fraudsters of the mansion-owning "pastors" who run those hideous monstrosities to normal priests. My first thought is communes and temples run by monks, men who work for the good of themselves and their brothers and who own very little or nothing.

@Bludmaster1900

Ай бұрын

​@@cosmic2750 i dont think churches exploit people

@productiveinsomniactaterto8612

27 күн бұрын

I thought the ottomans forcefully took away Serbian boys. What are you talking about?

As a Jewish scholar I find it really interesting that my religion that came out of Canaanite beliefs that very much had good and evil gods (Marduk/Tiamat, Ra/Apophis etc.) didn’t put an eternal enemy against Hashem. I have to wonder what anthropological factors removed that duality for Judaism and brought it back for Christianity.

@NoMoreMeNoMoreBelief

Ай бұрын

Satan was a common eternal enemy during the 2nd Temple period....much of current Rabbinic Judaism later developed in response to Christianity, which is why Rabbinic Judaism has gone to great lengths to willingly misinterpret OT texts.

@feeblereptilian

Ай бұрын

Leaded water pipes- to put it bluntly.

@francesconicoletti2547

Ай бұрын

Tiamat and Apophis seem to me to be personifications of the primordial waters of Chaos,rather than Evil . Judaism might have dealt with them by depersonifying them. God deals with The Waters directly at the beginning of the book of Genesis. There are Hasmonean dynasty period religious texts mentioning powerful evil spirts ( like Mastema from the book of Jubilees and fragments of the dead sea scrolls ) . The idea might have been borrowed from the nearby Persians who had a good god and an evil god.

@RCake

Ай бұрын

Well I think it is really arguable whether or not Christianity has a duality of good/evil deity. In scripture, the concept of a devil or of Evil is comparatively apocryphal, or at least certainly not a first-level idea. Many Christian denominations worldwide (not so much in the US it seems) do not really have a place for the devil/Evil in their practical teaching.

@JohnSmith-mc2zz

Ай бұрын

That's true, Cake. I'm not religious but I see major differences in how people understand Christianity. In my opinion it's misguided to practically refer to it as one religion.

I think one of the byproducts of this 'eternal war/supreme evil' pillar is radical binary thinking, the elimination of nuance, and the flattening of issues into yes/no. Things are either good or bad; you are either responsible or not; you are either pure or impure; and so on. And the challenge is... things are far more complex in reality, and there are often many perspectives in play; most of which aren't often immediately apparent. There often isn't a 'right' answer or a 'correct truth'. Sometimes there is none at all but sometimes there are many.

@moussagacem8260

8 күн бұрын

You know what is more simplistic than saying that things are either good or bad? Saying that nothing is good or bad and everything is in the middle. The fact that some actions aren't 100% goods doesn't mean that they aren't more preferable. In most organized religions (Islam, Judaisme, Catholicism and orthodoxy) when we talked about good or bad actions we talk "in objecto" (objectively this is good or bad), but that doesn't mean that subjectively a thing that is bad cannot be good. Killing is bad but defending myself make killing good, doing this thing is evil but if I didn't knew it was evil God will forgive me. Fasting is obligatory but if I'm sick then it's forbidden because presrving my health is a more important obligation.

@PhotonBeast

8 күн бұрын

@@moussagacem8260 Not sure if you're arguing with or against me so... yeah? I didn't use absolute wording to say that things had to be always good/bad or always in the middle. Or even that there was only ever one 'best' solution. Or a worse one. All my point was was that flattening everything in to a single axis without considering context and what have you is typically pretty harmful. And that more broadly, that one has to allow for critical thinking and deliberation, if possible. And also that there are usually degrees of severity. It's a web of degrees not a single binary. Yes, sometimes, you have to accept that some good actions will have negative outcomes; heck, most probably do even if that's just missed opportunities. Or inversely, that something negative deeds may have good byproducts. As you note, self-defense as a concept is generally considered an acceptable or neutral action. I would add that the nuance comes into real world situations with real people . Because then we must also factor in the severity of reaction, what an individual perceives as self-defense, etc. If someone (A) sees two people trying to enter the house across the street, can A say they feel at risk and confront them using the justification of self-defense? If someone shoves B, what is the ethical limit of the response? Can/should B only shove back or is drawing a weapon acceptable? And yeah, different people will also have different interpretations. Shoving and walking away vs shoving and knocking someone over until the other walks away may carry different weights to someone. It varies based on what the other person is doing. If the other person walks away and B keeps shoving them. If you're not discussing that kind of nuance or challenging your read of my post, then, you'll have to be clearer.

@moussagacem8260

8 күн бұрын

@@PhotonBeast what I'm saying is that religion already have accepted that things are more complicated than "this is absolutely good no matter what" I'm not against what you are saying but I'm against some people who thinks that religion are reducing moral dilemma In islam the purpose of a fatwa is to take care of a specific action in a specific context and in Catholicism theologians have been doing that for 2000 years.

@PhotonBeast

8 күн бұрын

@@moussagacem8260 I mean, yes, most practical beliefs aren't particularly reductionist. Its only some that go to the binary place talked about in the video; which is what I assumed most of the conversation would be about. Particularly since the video is coming from the perspective of an American whose reference point is American Evangelicalism which is already an outlier. Otherwise, we're not about the simplified notion of absolutely good/absolute evil, we're talking ethnical systems of which religious beliefs can overlap. And that's not really the topic of the video.

Great discussion!! Depressing sometimes that so many people are 7 years old when it comes to religious beliefs and knowledge. Keep making these videos. So nice to know you are on the watch.....

We are indeed in a spiritual war. It’s a war between reason, rationality, and reality against spirituality, superstition, and bigotry.

@raygreen2134

Ай бұрын

ofcourse your name says it

@chrisinnes2128

Ай бұрын

Of course as a member of the Church of Scotland i totally agree with you Christianity should be reasonable rational and realistic

@narmaya33

Ай бұрын

Leave spirituality out of this

@user-pn4py6vr4n

Ай бұрын

@@raygreen2134 Has a nice way of heading off the bafflingly stupid accusations of communism that always seem to come from the more unhinged political opponents of atheists.

@Meyer-gp7nq

Ай бұрын

Well at least you recognized that it is spiritual. Christ is Lord

The cognitive dissonance of thinking liberalism is evil, while ignoring that Jesus was himself a liberal-radical in his day, is quite amazing.

@willt3982

Ай бұрын

I'm convinced alot of these Christians would hate Jesus and his more tolerant pacifist views if they met him and didn't know who it was.

@yamakaze951

Ай бұрын

I mean, there was a recent shock among Evangelical pastors when their MAGA congregations asked for different messages since Jesus' message is all "woke liberal nonsense" now

@unoriginal2552

Ай бұрын

​@@yamakaze951 plot twist: it was ALWAYS woke and liberal! They just weren't listening!

@Owain_Lord_Of_Glyndyfrdwy

Ай бұрын

I think the historical jesus would have been as disgusted by homosexuality as any other first century jew...

@flintlock37

Ай бұрын

​@@Owain_Lord_Of_Glyndyfrdwy then surely he'd say something about it, no?

I've felt that the biggest lie the devil told is not that he does not exist, but that he does.

Thank you for enabling captions. You made a good program.

there's a barney song that says the colors of the rainbow are "red orange and yellow, green blue and purple". i think people just aesthetically prefer a six-color rainbow, and it matches with how we usually divide up the color wheel, and the 7-color rainbow was supposedly only started to avoid the number 6. it's backwards to say that we are using six colors because we worship satan or whoever.

@ziploc2000

Ай бұрын

Seven colors comes from Isaac Newton. He supposedly made it 7 as that's a more 'mystical/occult' number, 7 days of the week, 7 planets (known at the time) etc. wooo. It's cheaper to print flags with 6 colors than 7. That's all there is to it.

@albino_penguin2268

Ай бұрын

Anyone who has to explain the differences between indigo and violet to a child understand this. A six colour rainbow is also easier to teach when mixing primary and secondary paint colours.

@shrekiscool4743

Ай бұрын

​@@albino_penguin2268 indigo shouldn't be considered its own colour based on the very definition of what a seperate colour is. The 6 coloured flag just makes more sense, and they talked for like 10 minutes straight about how it's obviously devil worship

@Kaletheist

Ай бұрын

Oh, I can't help but remember the accusation that barney, the big PURPLE dinosaur, was gay and therefore would naturally sing a 6 color satanic rainbow song to indoctrinate children into his evil ways 😅😅😅

@DavidSmith-vr1nb

Ай бұрын

​@@shrekiscool4743 it's been known for a long time that Indigo isn't really a colour. I was taught this in the 90's.

This is something that's always been very hard to explain to my friends, who weren't raised nearly as religious as me. I spent my entire childhood fearing hell and the devil, honestly believing that if I thought about swear words, it was the devil trying to possess me. I spent eight years with an undiagnosed, untreated mental illness (misophonia; the hatred of certain sounds) because I was terrified that it was a demon possessing me. I thought deja-vu was demonic possession, because my parents told me people who could see the future were possessed. I was a young, naive child, and the way I looked at the entire world was through a lens of demons being actively after my soul. I'm slowly overcoming these fears, but even to this day I have lingering fear of demons and the supernatural. It's tricky to explain to people why I, as an adult who loves horror movies and doesn't even believe in hell or the devil, am still afraid of such things.

@Cool-Vest_Leo

Ай бұрын

Dang. That sounds... rough. I don't think it's common for that initial gut reaction to go away fully. Maybe it's because I enjoy a lot of fiction, but I always have that little part of me that's afraid of the supernatural even though I've always staunchly believed it to all be imaginary. Like a year ago I woke up in the middle of the night and noticed transparent afterimages floating around my vision for a few seconds, and instinctively thought it was a ghost. The only other time it happened, I calmed myself down quickly and recognized it for a visual hallucination created by the residual firings of occipital lobe neurons trying to produce a dream.

It always made me wonder that the farmer who lost a herd of 2000 pigs was never compensated for an enormous loss of live stock. Jesus showed no compassion for him.

@Tarotlynx

22 күн бұрын

What were pigs even doing there? Pigs are not kosher and thus shouldn't be welcome in Israeli territory.

Thank you for all your thoughtful monologues and dialogues!

I wonder if it's not an "escalation" of this type of thinking, but more of a "concentration" of it. A lot of folks are following their sensibility and have either altered their beliefs on this garbage or have left religion entirely (hand raised); but the ones "left behind" in their entrenched fears feel like they're somehow losing a war and so are taking drastic measures to keep those fears afloat. There are less of them - but the remaining core is more volatile. Just my $.02

@CelestialVenerableValinor

Ай бұрын

yep, many Christian folks back at my former church became more problematic than ai remember them being while others are becoming less caring about affairs (I call these internalized disbelief, slowly getting out while remaining inside)

@wet-read

Ай бұрын

Keeping their fears afloat? I'm not sure what you mean with that.

My husband and I are both agnostic, but raised Christian. We have surprisingly regular conversations about how what people say are Christian values and what the Bible actually says just don't line up with each other.

As always, a very enlightening discussion. Thank you, Drew.

the thing about the number of colours in the rainbow is so bizarre to me, what even was that?

Fear is a very powerful feeling. Some of the worst atrocities in history were carried out because of fear. When you convince people that Satan and his demons are real and that you somehow know how to spot them and rebuke them, you can turn people against anything you want. There is a large group of people who, because of their fear of demons, are left completely open to being manipulated into holding principles that are based on fear rather than love

@Cool-Vest_Leo

Ай бұрын

It ain't just fear. When people are told to think in absolutes like this, they stop thinking entirely. You can't reason with something that doesn't think, which is what makes this situation especially scary.

Speaking of Qanon, is it just me, or is the adrenochrome stuff Blood Libel warmed over and given a modern coat of paint?

@ShadowMark474

Ай бұрын

They're the same people talking about the "globalist elite" (jews) promoting "cultural marxism" (cultural bolshevism) to enact the "great replacement." They're not very subtle.

@carrieohio

Ай бұрын

Hillary's not Jewish, and she drinks it by the gallon. 😏

@synthetic240

Ай бұрын

Pretty much. It's just modern anti-Semitism. Not that Israel is doing a great job or anything...

@griffinblades8475

Ай бұрын

It totally is. Q-anon is chocked full of repackaged antisemitism

@chickensalad3535

Ай бұрын

Yep, it is.

The idea that there is a cosmic battle between Good and Evil, and that planet earth is at the center of the conflict, and that we each of us is on one side or the other, is just about the evilest idea i've ever heard.

It’s been awhile since I’ve watched your channel, but man do I love your work. Keep it up!

For an all powerful god, he's really dependent on people fighting his battles for him.

@BufordDuckworth

Ай бұрын

Don't forget he needs people to pay his bills too. Weird how he owns "the cattle on a thousand hills" but can't pay for a church's expenses.

@rtredux9726

Ай бұрын

Why would God ever make human money appear out of thin air?

@wilberwhateley7569

Ай бұрын

Funny how that works - it’s almost like “god” has no power at all that humans don’t give to it…

@hugonobody3352

Ай бұрын

@@wilberwhateley7569 or if God decided to destroy all evil we, as flawed humans, would be obliterated too. I thank God I have a chance to repent for my sins.

@wilberwhateley7569

Ай бұрын

@@hugonobody3352 Bullshit - the fact that such a deity needs humans to do its dirty work is proof of its impotence.

Best quote I've ever heard about religion: "Stupid people believe it, smart people don't, and powerful people find it useful."

@josiahz21

Ай бұрын

That’s ignorance at its best. Francis Collins the director of the human genome project is a Christian. Theres probably countless Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc scientists/mathmaticians/ professionals of many fields. There are many different kinds of intelligence. We are all intelligent at different capacities in different fields. More important we are all ignorant of a great many things as well.

@nicholemoore2448

Ай бұрын

The part about power pans out, but not all people who believe a religion are stupid. I'm an atheist and I know people much smarter than I who believe in some sort of god. It's not that they're unintelligent, it's that they're blinded by love. They don't just believe in their god, they're deeply in love with their version of it.

@s271a

Ай бұрын

​@@nicholemoore2448 The phrase "their version of it" is where the problem lies. The problem why we Christians make such dubious choices is that most of us don't actually read the Bible. And there will be Christians who overlook parts of the Bible to fit their view of Christianity. Christianity is all about love and forgiveness. Nothing else. It's basically just saying "Love thy neighbors." There will be contradictions, but the Bible is full of metaphors. There is only one God. Any other version is false.

@Cool-Vest_Leo

Ай бұрын

​@@s271a That's something I'll always criticize about any religion to claim that theirs is the only truth. Everyone has a different version of God, and claims and believes theirs is the only true one. They can't all be right. Yet none of them have enough evidence over another to unify people. That's why I'm an atheist. Because I've never met a religion that withstands all scrutiny.

@justice8718

Ай бұрын

@@Cool-Vest_Leo Your faith has done nothing but lead into death and alien worship. Hahahaha

You don't save people by demonizing them. If you want people to convert to your religion through reason, then literally get good. If you force them to change or else suffer, that's terrorism.

It really is amazing to see people saying things like "The thing called the Equality Act is evil" or "Don't question - merely obey" and be rock-solidly convinced that they are on the side of Good and justice. Maybe it's just all my exposure to Satan-influenced media, but have you EVER seen a movie where the group demanding obedience without question were the good guys?

I had that armor set! Made me invincible in neighborhood pinecone fights 😅

@larryscarr3897

Ай бұрын

I see your neighborhood never discovered the crab apple on a stick technology.

Politics and religion should never be mixed. Neither should politics and medicine or religion and medicine.

@CelestialVenerableValinor

Ай бұрын

Politics is e everywhere

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

​@@CelestialVenerableValinor It is. It shouldn't be. Politicians should not tell what you can do with your body or who to pray. Preachers should not tell you what you can do with your body or who to vote for. Politicians and preachers are not doctors.

@dross4207

Ай бұрын

Are you claiming that the medical community should have free reign to do whatever they want to? Also, I don’t really think that you believe that politics shouldn’t be in medicine, I think that you meant that “the other guys” politics shouldn’t be in medicine, but I can feel fairly certain that you’re okay with your politics being involved in medicine.

@einienj3281

Ай бұрын

@@dross4207 I'm not saying that. There are laws. And laws should not be made from a religious pov. Medical decisions should be made from a scientific pov.

@CelestialVenerableValinor

Ай бұрын

@@einienj3281 One thing is to say: religion shouldn't be in politics. Another is to say: politics shouldn't be in religion.

Somehow, you can talk about the weirdest and most horrifying things and make it a pleasurable experience to listen to you. I am always looking forward to your videos 😊

I really enjoy your discussions with Dr. Laycock, glad to see him back on your channel!

This mindset and such teachings literally ruined my life. It made me hate myself from a young age and struggle with my gender dysphoria without seeking help, costing me something close to 2 decades of my life worth of trauma and missed experiences as the only way I was able to keep on living was to close myself off from the world resulting in me being in a hole I'll need another wasted decade to just dig myself out of. I am sorry but I cannot simply forgive that. This practice should stop immediately, however I do not believe these institutions should be able to walk away after saying a "sorry" and stopping. They've wasted the lifespan of a substantial amount of people and in my opinion these institutions and thoser who spread this rhetoric should be made responsible to refund that. These institutions have a net worth in the ballpark of hundreds of billions each, if not trillions in the case of the orthodox and catholic churches and their apologists. That money should be put into researching regenerative medicine and a cure for aging, allowing their victims to have a second chance at a full life. That should be the only way they should be allowed to earn forgiveness, anything short of that is rewarding those who committed extreme harm and made a dragon's hoard in the process.

@Meyer-gp7nq

Ай бұрын

Praying for you bro. The only way to ‘earn’ forgiveness is a perfect sacrifice, which Christ gave us on the cross. He loves you so much. He died for you.

@Da_bear-ij9gm

Ай бұрын

Gender dysphoria is really only a side effect of believing the sexist gender roles you’ve been indoctrinated into

@justice8718

Ай бұрын

This is why Hell will be far worse for you.

@zuzap3799

Ай бұрын

Wtf is wrong with these replies? Someone just telling you to repent without even aknowledging your point? Evetything you said is true and so heartbreaking. This kind of hate can't be allowed and we shouldn't let them get away with it when they hide behind "religious discrimination".

@fl00fydragon

Ай бұрын

@@Meyer-gp7nq Someone's death back in the bronze age does not absolve the institutions that deified him and used that deification to amass power, wealth and apply control, ruining people's lives in the process. "Forgiveness" is something people earn in life with their actions by using the means at your disposal to undo the harm you caused to the best of your ability, not by appealing to some god who supposedly absolves you from wrongdoing by simply saying "sorry" and blindly obeying him before demanding the "responsibility" of forgiving to befall the victims of your religion to forgive those who wronged them, accept the harm done and then comply with the demands of the wrongdoers and completely ruin their lives. This is neither justice nor morality This is a power system purpose built to uphold an organization with massive social control with no checks and balances that demands to be unquestioned, to amass untold wealth and to spread misery whilst calling it "good" And ironically these organizations are the farthest I can imagine to the core message that the person that they deified preached. Newsflash: the responsibility is for YOU lot to make amends, it's medically possible to refund the lives you wasted if enough is poured into medical R&D in regenerative medicine. DO IT, you have the social influence and the capital to outspend medical initiatives of wntire superpowers. Once you're done then we can talk about if you're worthy of forgiveness or not.

A 3-in-1 god, angels, archangels, demons, a boss demon...calling Xianity monotheistic is a real stretch! 😄

@shrekiscool4743

Ай бұрын

Afaik (being raised Catholic) Catholicism specifically believes that Jesus, the holy spirit and "god the father" are all one god but they're all seperate? Or something like that correct me if I'm wrong

@angelikaskoroszyn8495

Ай бұрын

Don't forget Saints and prophets. Some Christian branches are even more polytheistic than other

@rdizzy1

Ай бұрын

Maybe if you weaken the definition of what a god is out to infinity. But we all know generally how followers of abrahamic religions define their god.

@badart3204

Ай бұрын

@@shrekiscool4743think of it like god having a schizo moment with multiple personalities that are still technically one being. Makes a lot more sense that way.

@hugonobody3352

Ай бұрын

@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 Saints and Prophets are mortal men and women, not gods. God is God, obviously. Everyone likes to rag on Catholicism for idol worship but please explain exactly where in the catechism of the Catholic Church we proclaim any saint, even Mary, to the same level as God rather than asking for their intercession? Sounds to me like you just don't understand it very well...

"I have made an almost perfect universe, what could be missing? I know! Beings that screw everything up! Am I a genius, or what?"

@moussagacem8260

8 күн бұрын

Not only it's heretical in Catholicism, Orthodoxy Judaism and islam to attribute my bad actions to demons and say that "Im not responsible it's demons". But that didn't prevent St Augustine and St Thomas Acquinas to say that we should punish criminals (by death penalty sometimes) and that peoples can go to hell. So It's mostly a problem about how some Americans Christians understand religions. Demons exists but like St Therese of lisieux said :" “A soul in a state of grace has nothing to fear of demons who are cowards.”

The fact that she didn't even get the colour that was removed right. Not only did she say it's indigo, which no, indigo is still on the colour, originally the colours also weren't 7 but 8 (pink and turquoise). What I'm trying to say is, it's sad how she didn't get anything right in that statement. Also, I saw a comment explaining why the colours got removed way better then I could.

One, the pride flag was supposed to have more colours but didn't due to printing issues I believe (but that was obviously Satan's work) and now has officially 8 colours ; Two, that's the sort of reasoning my ex boyfriend would have to justify his paranoid delusions. He was with schizophrenia. I feel bad associating the two, I don't want to demean anyone with mental health issues. But then, I heard recently there were studies about the physical effects of prayer being similar to taking drugs so maybe believers are addicts. Unfortunately they have a lot of power over others lives and that's unacceptable.

@feeblereptilian

Ай бұрын

Well- Jung is kind of the poster boy for the religion x extreme schizophrenic thoughts.

@wildfireswildfires6792

Ай бұрын

@@feeblereptilian which Jung are you referring to ? The only one I know is Carl Gustav and it doesn't seem to fit

@12q8

Ай бұрын

I remember reading Schizophrenia is an overloaded empathic response, which is why they can have so much empathy that they believe the radio is talking to them, or what random people are talking about is them. That is why they can easily believe in demons and satanic and the unseen. That prayer point you mentioned is quite interesting. I wonder if it would work on anything, like if I prayed to a random god everyday. It also helps explain how people “find god” when they “pray hard” enough and then talk about their personal experience with prayer.

The rainbow flag thing is doubly funny when you remember that the ONLY reason that indigo was included in the description of the rainbow in the first place was because 7 is a sacred number and Newton didn't want it to be unsacred, so he kind of just randomly pointed somewhere and decided that's a separate color now, so he could make it to the holy 7.

From "Calvin and Hobbes": Calvin (to Hobbes): Do you believe in the Devil? You know, a powerful being dedicated to the temptation, corruption, and destruction of mankind? Hobbes: I'm not sure mankind needs the help.

@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic

14 күн бұрын

I had a several Calvin and Hobbes compilation books as a kid and always liked that one. As an adult I see that I was on the right track.

I _love_ how you make your sponsor relevant to what you're talking about, and make the ad read flow smoothly into and back out of your actual content. Not only does it benefit us, keeping it from being jarring, but it also benefits you with more watch time, since we're way less likely to skip it. Hugely appreciate the effort.

@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic

Ай бұрын

Thanks! It’s easy when the sponsor itself is relevant. I was planning to talk about that news story regardless of whether I got a sponsor on the video or not, so when I got the Ground News deal, I knew what the move was immediately.

@shrekiscool4743

Ай бұрын

​@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic yeah it probably wouldn't be so easy if you had to promote raid shadow legends or something lmao

In reference to Putin, religion is never going to cease being politically useful to him. Even if the situation in Ukraine ended with a Russian victory and territorial gains, he will still need religion to create an "other" that he can push back against.

@matthalaboo6694

Ай бұрын

If he's using "Satanic influence of the West," as motivation for the invasion, that tells me he has no intention of stopping with Ukraine.

@Cool-Vest_Leo

Ай бұрын

Certified Hitler moment.

@kingbeef66

Ай бұрын

Putin using religion is no different than the Mafia using religion to excuse their violence.

I'd be laughing at this if this didn't hit so close to home. My dad seriously thinks that by sister getting period cramps and having to leave the church (to which she doesn't belong anyway) is caused by the devil trying to make her sin, and that her going home to take pain meds is her surrendering to the devil. But what can you expect when, when I go to him to the mass, I hear the priest talk about a battle between good an evil on the world stage, and we need to fight against the devil's temptations from eating too much food, or watching porn or drinking. To them everything is the devil's doing, they don't take personal responsibility. If you're married and are attracted to a young woman, it's not because You are attracted to her, it's because the devil is making you attracted to her, and if you act upon it you just failed because you were too weak to resist him. Not because you actually wanted to cheat on your wife.

@justice8718

Ай бұрын

Job establishes that nearly everything can be a tool for the Devil to abuse. Even the people you trust. Don’t be stupid.

@spliter88

Ай бұрын

@@justice8718 Have you seen the video? Do you realize how inane of an argument that is? Show me the devil first, then I'll believe he's doing anything. Hell, show me the devil is even possible and I'll believe he can do anything, but don't take a 2000 year old book written by people who weren't even there as evidence.

@BlockyBookworm

27 күн бұрын

@@justice8718 In the Book of Job, it's God that does the abusing. The Adversary is just a prosecutor, who God employs as such.

@justice8718

27 күн бұрын

@@spliter88 Job happened between the events of Genesis.

@BlockyBookworm

27 күн бұрын

@@justice8718 Between which events in Genesis? Because in Genesis 10:22, Elam is just one guy. It would take Abraham 400+ years to grow into a nation, and he was specifically blessed by God so that would occur. Even accepting the Bible as true, Bildad the Shuhite was a SHUHITE, a DESCENDANT of Abraham. The backgrounds of Job's friends place them long after Abraham, long after his descendants have multiplied immensely into many nations. More than just that, Elihu's speech is loaded with Aramaisms, in contrast to the other characters. Genesis implies the slavery of the Hebrews happened under Rameses, and the 400+ years puts Abraham in the Bronze Age. However, the Arameans, who originally spoke Aramaic, are first attested around the time of the Bronze Age Collapse. This means that, in no uncertain terms, *The Book of Job* does not take place between any events of Genesis. It takes place after them. Frankly, given the theology presented, it's obviously either set later than that, or ahistorical, a parable designed to illustrate a variety of theodicies.

The disclaimer to think in specifics instead of generalizations hits home for me. As a Nigerian, the angels/demons message permeates 90% of the Christian messages I hear here. It's become very easy for me to assume that's how most of Christianity is, but that's not true. I'm glad to have that reminder.