Idk what’s funnier, the idea of a toddler with the mind of a 30 year old, or an all powerful tween going ‘you can’t tell me what to do, you’re not my real dad, IM MY OWN DAD’

@fishraposo7192

2 жыл бұрын

The second one is more believable tbh

@skepticusmaximus184

2 жыл бұрын

LOL! Yeah... "He's his own son... ME!"

@jaya1000

2 жыл бұрын

Just to be clear Jesus conceived himself?

@emilybarclay8831

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaya1000 according to the trinity, yes

@ManahManah77

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidbrown8763 I thought of that same song

"To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer him a merciless death." (Young Jesus)

@Catholictomherbert

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a pretty good lesson we still practice it today but in rhetorical fashion

@euengelion

2 жыл бұрын

Young Jesus gangsta

@heroinmom153

2 жыл бұрын

Very different from the "turn the other cheek" adult, collected Jeebus

@CaptainAnglican

2 жыл бұрын

“Gangsta means never having to say sorry.” -Kid Jesus

@Ida-Adriana

2 жыл бұрын

I think the pacifist Jesus might be a corruption, he was actually anarchist revolutionary

“Imagine being Joseph. Your 5 year old…” But it wasn’t even his kid. It’s the child of his wife who magically got pregnant without him. Seeing young Jesus act out with his supernatural powers was probably horrifying. Like, “What even is this evil bastard?”

@randomteenageboy5002

Жыл бұрын

@@sunnyisabunny1479 according to scripture Gabriel was an angel. Plus he would love to see his stepson be the son of God. Joseph is considered a saint. Plus Joseph did physically raise him for a bit before he died. This whole gynostic gospel stuff is bogus. Their beliefs are contradictory to doctrine of the scriptures and have no evidence the apostles wrote them

@randomteenageboy5002

Жыл бұрын

@James Black ok then, what is the proof that what you said occurred? You accuse me of having no proof yet are the victim of the same thing. Most atheist skeptics are like this, they provide no alternative, they only pick holes. At least in the Bible there are prophecies that support Jesus, which although could be heavily biased is more than saying something is false with no evidence. Plus the Bible is surprisingly accurate on historical events compared to other ancient texts.

@ozzivpodno1356

Жыл бұрын

@@randomteenageboy5002 I agree with everything here except where you didn't like that Atheist skeptics tend to only poke holes and not give an alternative. I view that as a positive since it means they're not bound by a worldview and can, with little personal mental friction, criticize and evaluate the validity of all arguments...including (though uncommonly) Evolution and the Big Bang Theory.

@jeannedouglas9912

Жыл бұрын

Ouchy mama

@randomteenageboy5002

Жыл бұрын

@@ozzivpodno1356 I mean, they can do that. It is just annoying when they provide no alternative. And in a way they are bound by a worldview: uncertainty.

My favorite missing Bible book is the Book of Judith, where Judith literally saved Israel (after basically calling them wusses to their faces) by seducing the general of the Assyrians and beheading him while he slept, carrying the head home as a trophy. Then a ton of men tried to get with her, but she turned them all down because they werent good enough for her. Badass women scare the fundamentalists.v

@Cheepchipsable

2 жыл бұрын

I guess they were all "too heady" for her?

@cardett75

2 жыл бұрын

sound more like a wet dream for any low key feminist, if it was not included in the canonical scriptures is probably because it's fictional and not historical

@gingergoddess8953

2 жыл бұрын

@@cardett75 because as we all know, the bible is otherwise 100% not fictional...? Not sure which version you've read but there are a few bible stories that are also....wait for it...not historical!

@cardett75

2 жыл бұрын

@@gingergoddess8953 sure, the book was already not part of the jewish canonical scriptures, and the story just doesn't fit with the general teaching of christianity there's certainly other accepted fictional book as part of the canonical bible but usually they convey the same general message/teaching of the christian faith, i believe the book of esther is one of those book, fictional but the symbolism and message/teaching fit perfectly with the rest of the teaching found in christianity, there's always that dilemma on what was inspired by god and what was simply inspired by human imagination

@AntediluvianRomance

2 жыл бұрын

It is a part if canon for Catholics.

As the mother of a 3 year old I must say this is the most realistic gospel

@cerberaodollam

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao. If this is how you saw me when I was 3, no wonder you traumatized me so hard

@TangledInYarn

2 жыл бұрын

@@cerberaodollam holy frick is that a clapback

@ragemachine420

2 жыл бұрын

@@cerberaodollam 😂

@freespirit7450

2 жыл бұрын

@@TangledInYarn I'm confused.

@Kenshiroit

Жыл бұрын

The little sister

This comes across like Thomas was a kid who didn't get much respect and wrote this as a self-insert power fantasy.

@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos

2 жыл бұрын

Replace "Jesus" with "Shadow the Hedgehog", and I'm quite certain this would fly in modern fanfic forums.

@rainpooper7088

2 жыл бұрын

@@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos I legit wrote a comedy fanfic once where Eggman’s robots rewrite The Lord‘s Prayer and replace God with Eggman. It ended with the planet blowing up.

@alrenobenjamin6566

2 жыл бұрын

This sums up every biblical writers intentions No wonder why there are differing topics on Loyalty,Murder,Genocide,Sex,rape,Incest,War,Bloodshed through out the bible Each one is inspired by culture,and beliefs that were upheld at the time even now we pick and choose from the bible what we want

@jackspringheel9963

2 жыл бұрын

7:2a : And everybody clapped.

@DioDeezBrando

2 жыл бұрын

@@rainpooper7088 is sonichu Satan in the book??????

adult jesus: makes a big deal out of turning water into wine child jesus: turns clay into living birds like it ain't no thang

God so loved his children that he arranged for there to be multiple versions of His Word so that they could spend centuries killing each other over the differences

@angelascharmedlife

4 ай бұрын

Man distorted the word until the Quran. Imo

@lukedegraaf1186

4 ай бұрын

​@angelascharmedlife just another version of the same think.

@DrMegaMetal

3 ай бұрын

@@angelascharmedlifeyou blame man for making man made mistakes I blame God for making man made mistakes If your version of god was real then there would have been just one religion in this world practiced by everyone with no disagreement on even the smallest detail

@XXXTentaclez

2 ай бұрын

@@DrMegaMetalreligion doesn’t mean anything to god

@XXXTentaclez

2 ай бұрын

@@DrMegaMetalmost religious people who fight about it are guilty people

Joseph: you can’t do that. Jesus: you’re not my real dad.

@amypieterse4127

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus: I am my real dad

@zenokarlsbach4292

2 жыл бұрын

@@amypieterse4127 Zeno here🎃.

@invisiblepinkunicorn7626

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@wander-0014

2 жыл бұрын

Joseph: You can't do that... Jesus: To bad Zeno died of ligma... Joseph: Who the fuck is Zeno... Jesus: LIGMA BALLS... suddenly A flash of light emits from Jesus and vaporized the surrounding area instantly creating what we now call the Eye of the Sahara... Joseph later wakes up in a cold sweat realizing it was all just a dream... Though a sneaking suspicion in the back of Joseph's mind scratched at the back of his mind as he remembered that his son had the ability to raise the dead...

@Mythical.History

2 жыл бұрын

@@wander-0014 Then Je"sus" said Amogus 📮

"It became so popular, it was even included in the Quran." One of the few cases where someone's fanfic becomes popular enough to be included in the canon of the unofficial sequel.

@juicewar3805

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, if you think about it it's all fanfic lmao

@jeffreyfiegen1538

2 жыл бұрын

@@juicewar3805 Huh, that's actually a good point

@jujuplayboy

2 жыл бұрын

Technically, the entire Divine Comedy is a canonized fan-fiction, especially in its representation of Hell.

@eddybrevet6816

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine there is a syndrome caused by that, arrogant overload

@franciscoarzapalozapata4610

2 жыл бұрын

@@jujuplayboy Dante even put her waifu in the divine comedy hahaha

“Your kid was playing in a stream, doing some telekinesis, being a bit sacrilegious, but it’s all good…” This quip will become one of my fave #GeneticallyModifiedQuotes

I love your insight that the young Jesus acted like the Yahweh of the Hebrew Scriptures - vengeful when angered and helpful when placated. Possibly these stories expand on the brief comment in Luke: "Jesus advanced in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and men." (Luke 2:52). Perhaps the text demonstrates that the young Jesus had to grow from that state into Wisdom, the Jesus of the Gospel. We should always remember that these ancient people were just as sophisticated as we are in their story telling. Thanks for a good vid

@gerzent3102

8 ай бұрын

Christians believe in unchanging God. Anything that could change is our understanding of God's actions (Bible is written from our point of view). Old and New Testament God are the same. Jesus couldn't sin, He grew in wisdom but didn't sin.

@TingTong2568

5 ай бұрын

@@gerzent3102 that's according to your standard christian theology, but its not proven historically

@joyandpeacefullaughter5307

3 ай бұрын

Yahweh was not evil and vengeful. He is slow to anger and righteous and only recompense evil to murderers.

@tanyanikolaevagizdova6571

2 ай бұрын

​​@@joyandpeacefullaughter5307 And babies. Seriously, remember Egypt? What did those babies do?

@arthurw1604

Ай бұрын

I think that too, as he is god he can justify anything hes doing, because he can do anything. But since he is born as a human, he had to live and grow as a human and become the compassionate jesus we know, he needed to perfect his humanity to die.

It's funny how all the bible stories deemed "non-canonical" are the best ones

@willycormack3840

2 жыл бұрын

Its not so funny really, taking out the 'worst' bits from a story, to make it sound appealing to the majority. Writers do it all the time.

@based_prophet

2 жыл бұрын

13 realm shit those kids was shit kids

@based_prophet

2 жыл бұрын

@@willycormack3840 wel arnt you named after a dirt cheap vodka uhhhhg

@amarimars

2 жыл бұрын

they ban all the fun stufff

@drgenmo8340

2 жыл бұрын

So just like Star wars.

Just imagine trying to get him to eat his vegetables or clean up his room.

@basedandbiasedkakampink

2 жыл бұрын

NO SCREW YOU YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD

@csweezey18

2 жыл бұрын

@@basedandbiasedkakampink **f*cking murders him**

@MrAranton

2 жыл бұрын

A guy who can turn water into wine surely can turn veggies into fries or sweets... And since he knew how to do that, he allowed the Romans to crucify him, because dying of diabetes would have been too embarrassing.

@sanah6933

2 жыл бұрын

Sheesh, you might lose an arm

@timewa851

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrAranton well he would obviously turn it back into water after he drank it. Exactly like we do too..

Young Jesus was Marvel's version of Young Sheldon

*jesus smites people who insult him* yahweh: that’s my boy!

Young Jesus sounds like a character out of a Steven King novel.

@yullanvalor3380

2 жыл бұрын

... Rod Serling... The Twilight Zone...

@kellydalstok8900

2 жыл бұрын

@@yullanvalor3380 There was an (later?) episode about a girl who made people’s mouths disappear because she didn’t like what they said.

@qwerpasdf

2 жыл бұрын

Young Jesus sounds like a rapper about to drop the most fire and brimstone album of the decade

@julietfischer5056

2 жыл бұрын

@@yullanvalor3380 - Anthony Fremont

@henrygrove3072

2 жыл бұрын

"Just Mary's Baby"

Jesus was so good at writing that he never wrote anything down

@james_fisch

2 жыл бұрын

This Thomas guy was probably a kid in one of the classes who was threatened with being embodied into salt if he didn't write a flattering book of his best pal Jesus.

@Jason918114

2 жыл бұрын

I like to think of Jesus with giant eagle's wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk!

@bayareanewman1566

2 жыл бұрын

If Jesus pulled out an iPad from the future and live streamed this in real time to me in the future, via a spontaneously appearing 400 foot long floating iPad in the sky as I was listening to this story…. Then maybe I’d believe it. 😂😂🙏

@WillPhil290

2 жыл бұрын

Nice lol

@robertx8020

2 жыл бұрын

@@bayareanewman1566 no no no ...if Jesus would use an iPad then surely this would prove he's Satan? Maybe if he used an Android device 😂! well then I might believe!

I like how even Jesus went through a magical puberty arc like so many YA protagonists have since; and even then, the gospel also makes his actions out to be akin to the fumbling first steps of the Antichrist ironically enough.

Amazing - I'd never heard of this gospel until Drew revealed it to me. Your heart goes out to the poor teachers!

Damn, baby Jesus sounds like he might even be able to fully understand Rick and Morty.

@monk3811

2 жыл бұрын

True

@monk3811

2 жыл бұрын

But i dont think even jesus can't do it

@killgriffinnow

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand the letter "alpha"...

@zoa3244

2 жыл бұрын

@@killgriffinnow Before understanding the beta, yes!

@jacovawernett3077

2 жыл бұрын

He can. I do. In Aramaic means Twin. Lchaim from Jacoba born March 11 in a Bethlehem

Dude says that Jesus is "no small cross, brother". That's just a brazen pun right there.

@jamiegrowthanddevelopment9664

2 жыл бұрын

I totaly caught that too 🤣🤣🤘

@victorblakey4260

2 жыл бұрын

Why, would someone make a reference to ‘a cross to bear’, before crucifixion had become a known punishment ?

@jamiegrowthanddevelopment9664

2 жыл бұрын

@@victorblakey4260 you just looked like a fool lmao. Crusifiction has been around way befor jesus came on the sceen lmao. Go read a bit more try to be less woke and we will make less jokes

@geraintwd

2 жыл бұрын

@@victorblakey4260 Jesus wasn't the first to be crucified, it was a commonly used punishment even before his time. The Persians used it widely from around the 6th Century BC, for example.

@travcollier

2 жыл бұрын

@@geraintwd Yeah, but I'm doubtful the "my cross to bear" idiom was a thing.

Thank you for what you do for us ♥️ also really appreciate the reference to religionforbreakfast

I'm just discovering this now and I have to say this was well constructed and excellently articulated! Great video and great job!

The story where Jesus astounds the teachers at age 12 sounds like a Reddit post where everyone stands up and claps for the author

@RougenTCG

2 жыл бұрын

"- And lo Joseph presented the boy, Jesus with a crisp $100 bill."

@bigbigbigbigbigman

2 жыл бұрын

And that teacher's name was Einstein of Arimathea

@michael13419

2 жыл бұрын

r/thathappened right?

@mariabrar6290

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Guru Nanak at age 7 or Guru Gobind Ji as a child body.

@giftenjoyer3664

2 жыл бұрын

Funny that you would say that because reddit is the most awful place on the internet where atheists spend all their time

Joseph, in tears: Please, please my dear son... stop killing people Baby Jesus, about to raise a bunch of corpses he made cuz he's in a better mood: *: )*

@meemneep1595

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao 🤣 I was dying laughing throughout this whole video because I kept imagining baby Jesus killing people that did him wrong

Jesus in the school room is such a vibe. I'd have wanted to be his friend and he'd have called me out for vanity and pride. The crush on him would have been so real.

@clashcon11

6 ай бұрын

Uhh... what? Jesus loves you, you know that right? It's also depends on your understanding of what Love is.

Dude thank youuuu. This is such a fascinating video topic. I very much hope to see more in this vein!

My favorite quote is: "A smith's anvil, when struck, teaches whoever strikes it; it is not the anvil which is taught." This is in response to Jesus being literally beaten. It was clearly a statement about literal beating. There's no way around that. If the Infancy Gospel of Thomas was canon, do you think teachers would have stopped beating pupils earlier?

@CplAnguadaEarth

2 жыл бұрын

Does that mean I should hit my teachers? If an anvil teaches whoever strikes it? Obviously it’s not a good idea, but it is a funny hypothetical.

@alanpennie8013

2 жыл бұрын

@@CplAnguadaEarth It's a perplexing line. I'm happy boy Jesus set a conundrum rather than simply striking down the man who assaulted him.

@GrapeBoi007

2 жыл бұрын

Asian parent be like

@linnymaemullins3319

2 жыл бұрын

Probably so.

@neoqwerty

2 жыл бұрын

@@alanpennie8013 Whaddya mean "perplexing"? You use an anvil to beat metal into shape, but you only learn how to do that through practice because theory won't show you exactly how the metal and hammer and anvil all interact to mold said metal. The anvil doesn't learn anything at all from getting hit, but the smith gains experience in bending the metal to their will. Like the student doesn't learn anything valuable, it's just the teacher that learns how to make students obey without thought. If you know how metalsmithing works it's obvious.

This Jesus reminds me of those powerful children we see in sci-fi stories, like Tetsuo from Akira, or that kid from The Twilight Zone who banishes everyone with unhappy thoughts to the corn fields. What would happen if a yet mentally undeveloped child would receive godlike powers? So next time you ask yourself "What would Jesus do?", the follow-up question should be "At what age?".

@Cheepchipsable

2 жыл бұрын

He would become Donald Trump?

@albirtarsha5370

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I was totally reminded of The Twilight Zone. I was thinking that Rod Sterling may have been inspired by this book.

@mrhitech6742

2 жыл бұрын

Or like the guy from Stranger in a Strange Land.

@blackmanlistening7909

2 жыл бұрын

To one without STRONG faith. He is easily fooled by this because of them being CHILDREN. This did not fooled the son of God, he read there spirit and future. Even though he was a child himself. What happened to them was righteous, and may have saved the world as far as we know even the people that are attacking God's son for doing this. And the later scriptures proved that these children were NOT going to be of the body of Christ. It also revealed that Christ father taught him in righteousness. This people should get what they got. If you don't have enough faith you can't understand this and are easily turned.

@albirtarsha5370

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackmanlistening7909 Yes! Without faith this is absolute nitwittery.

I cannot make it thru all of these Edgelord Jesus stories without Elling Oh Ell. Blessed are you among KZreadrs for sharing this wonderous bounty.

Thanks for sharing your analysis!

Childhood Jesus is exactly what I expect out of a child that happens to have superpowers: wantonly cruel, temperamental, and self-centered. Not so different from his divine counterpart, actually.

@VincentValentine33

2 жыл бұрын

You just described Homelander from The Boys. Frightening how a god child could be so like the Man-child of The 7.

@losnamerales3403

2 жыл бұрын

It's like a household with 2 children 1 was raised with god then exiled from heaven for his envy, greed and hatred for God's subjects (humans), the other left to live in exile with God's subjects (humans) in human form because of our envy, greed and hatred experiencing it too while among us

@willycormack3840

2 жыл бұрын

@@losnamerales3403 What if there are 5 children?

@losnamerales3403

2 жыл бұрын

@@willycormack3840 well there wouldn't be because this is a metaphorical and theoretical interpretation of what we've heard in this video, in that scenario would we be even talking about the same religion as that model more matches up with different religious doctrine

@willycormack3840

2 жыл бұрын

@@losnamerales3403 your example of two kids is metaphorical sure, but you are just depicting the best course based on what you are told (bible etc). I mean is good/evil so clear cut that it is the obvious difference of two kids in a family. I mention 5 because good/evil in my opinion is not that clear and is a lesser or greater kind of thing. Not that I believe in good/evil anyway, nature has its own parameters and thats why nothing will stop humans being evil or 'good'. 'Good' is not a religious pre requisite anyway, given that if you are 'evil' your whole life, you get another chance at the end anyway. The 'religious model', thats a new one on me.

I think the idea of ‘Jesus being a violent short tempered asshole as a child, then an irritable but more patient teenager and young adult, and understanding the harshness of past actions and the power of human emotions becomes a caring patient and forgiving god in the end’ is a really good story and really fleshes out why he is born in the context of Christian lore. To understand the world from the viewpoint of humans he had to be human and face those challenges. As a child he had the knowledge of a god but lacked the wisdom of an elder. As he grows and is shaped by his experiences he becomes wise and starts to act with benevolence and forgiveness. I’m agnostic but I do love learning about this stuff and I believe there is a certain emotional power to stories like this. “Even the wicked and vengeful can become blessed and loving” it’s a good message for those struggling under the weight of their emotions or mental health that there is hope but you must learn and grow from your past.

@GoblinLord

Жыл бұрын

There's actually a few tales like this such as the original tale of Merlin's Half Brother Gowther and the tale that may have been inspired by Gowther, "Robert the Devil", both however are born of demons/succubi so it's technically different but it's similar in essence

@nataliegreen5489

Жыл бұрын

Also blends into themes of Old Testament god versus New Testament

@Alina_Schmidt

Жыл бұрын

I guess the lore story/ies of the bible books would oppose the theory that there was such a story arch originally. But interesting idea.

@quazar4773

Жыл бұрын

Wow, you will love God of War 2018🤣. That's the whole theme in it and it's masterfully crafted

@huzaifavawda8383

Жыл бұрын

This is why he is a Prophet and not God.

You have got to be one of the smartest best spoken young man I have ever had the pleasure of listening to

This channel has taught me more about Christianity than the church ever did

Most of the time when Jesus says something I feel like the next line should be "And they replied 'What are you even talking about?' Is that supposed to be deep?'"

@TaylordSpirit

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Jesus spoke in parables even his disciples didn’t understand.

@maniacmonsoon2831

2 жыл бұрын

​@@adamandsethdylantoo “Boi I’m gonna give this fist in your wise ass mouth if you don’t stop with the parables and heal my daughter” Annnnnd you're dead.....

@danielsmithiv1279

2 жыл бұрын

@@maniacmonsoon2831 Unfortunately...he is :(

@SamWeltzin

2 жыл бұрын

r/imjesusandthisisdeep

@sonja4164

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

I honestly like these stories. They make Jesus a much more "realistic" character. Actually how a super powerful child would act like

@Coolerranch1

2 жыл бұрын

Here's the kicker: Does a bear attack you because it's a part of nature or because someone of a "higher power" told it to?

@jacobash5904

2 жыл бұрын

@@Coolerranch1 well with most bears, it's probably attacking you because you were messing with it. Bears usually don't attack humans unless they're desperate.

@tpl608

2 жыл бұрын

Fake Jesus, most likely

@brandonschneider4984

2 жыл бұрын

@Terrence Bullock or the flying spaghetti monster... Or Thor or Apollo

@fishraposo7192

2 жыл бұрын

@@tpl608 I'm judging it purely as literature. Real or not, Christianity is still a really important mithology in our society, and every myth has its lessons. We gotta make sure we have good ones

thank you for not having a cringy intro animation of any kind

This is great! Read ebook about Gospel of Thomas and loved it.

Some of this reads to me the same way Chuck Norris facts do, and I’m wondering if the people who first came up with them ever intended them to be taken seriously.

@fukpoeslaw3613

2 жыл бұрын

i suspect the guys who wrote Jonah, were having a lot of fun and were only metaphorically serious at best

@TypingHazard

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus may have walked on water but Chuck Norris swims through land. It's just facts

@Willow4526

2 жыл бұрын

@@TypingHazard the possibility that someday people might be worshipping 'the all mighty Chuck! who swam through land' XD.

@danielrhouck

2 жыл бұрын

@Daniel Paulson Whether people believe them now isn’t the same as wether the people who first came up with them believed them.

@aralornwolf3140

2 жыл бұрын

@Daniel Paulson , They knew what the brain was... imperfectly. Just ask the Egyptians.

Honestly, the book of Thomas seems like an ancient piece of satire.

@madams3478

2 жыл бұрын

Good point. How sincere were even the people telling this, or was it more like a camp fire story?

@sallysmith920

2 жыл бұрын

The New Testament was written in Rome, in Greek several generations after the death of Jesus (if Jesus did indeed exist). Additionally, it could easily take 2-3 days for someone on a cross to die, Jesus was a man in his 30s, one has to wonder if six hours did actually kill him.

@starzlea

2 жыл бұрын

@@sallysmith920 are you serious?

@internetenjoyer1044

2 жыл бұрын

@@sallysmith920 th NT isnt several generations later, it's all written within 70 years. Paul's letters are only 20 years later, and they're addressed to already well established churches across of whole ROman Empire and contsin earlier creeds dated to within 5 years of Jesus' death

@branthomas1621

2 жыл бұрын

The new testament does

I really love your videos. I hope that they bring you and others peace and understanding. ❤✌😊

i love Religion For Breakfast! and your channel too! thank you very much for your work! i was raised the same way. thank you.

I love hearing about the nom-canonical gospels.

@paperizzy

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonbrown2587 💀💀💀💀 that was good lmao

@otakumangastudios3617

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly find it hilarious that super religious Christians think being pious and following God means to act like a 14-year-old K-pop fan, with posters and pictures and memorabilia everywhere, all the while defensively claiming that they do not have an unhealthy obsession

@Roastpeef

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonbrown2587 😂😂

@randomrandom450

2 жыл бұрын

@@otakumangastudios3617 first time I hear about a comparaison between Christians and gate keeping music fanboys, yet it makes so much sense, I'll cherish that though forever. Thank you.

@crocve

2 жыл бұрын

Want more? Read the Book of Enoch, the "Acts of Andrew and Matthias in the City of The Man-Eaters" and read Epiphanius´s quote of a part of the Borborite scripture "The Greater Questions of Mary" - this last one, oh boy...

“A finite being cannot comprehend God’s morality” - A finite being who claims to comprehend God’s morality

@Sanctifiers

2 жыл бұрын

why question it at all then? The moment after your death all will be revealed. Of course it's too late at this point but yolo right? At least you got to be a smug atheist and not actually consider the veracity of claims.

@RazHafeez

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sanctifiers I don’t think you understood the point of the comment...

@dericanslum1696

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sanctifiers ...the problem...or solution if you actually study this stuff and care about truth...is that that second sentence is something you're hilariously far away from proving... ...making these childish empty threats much more annoying than threatening...

@franciscodetonne4797

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sanctifiers Why question it? Because there exists a massive group of finite beings who claim to comprehend God's morality (or *anything* about God) through words written by other finite beings.

@guytheincognito4186

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sanctifiers Too late!? What makes you say such arrogant words, do you presume to understand the incomprehensible? A finite being cannot comprehend the ways of divinity. Who are you to say it's Too late, heretic.

Thank you Drew. I really appreciated this conversation and enjoyed the way you presented this video. I am subscribed and I appreciate your reference of further understanding from the channel ReligionForBreakfast. I really appreciate all you share with us here.

Drew, you just made me recall my two years in Awana. I thought I had sufficiently blocked those out.

Jeez louise child Jesus comes off like the kid from Pet Sematary

@sahirde

2 жыл бұрын

Are you religious JJ? I imagine not because of their stance on sexuality, but still curious

@JJMcCullough

2 жыл бұрын

@@sahirde I certainly become a lot less religious the more I watch channels like this one!

@travcollier

2 жыл бұрын

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_a_Good_Life_(The_Twilight_Zone)

@anunknownentity1637

2 жыл бұрын

@@JJMcCullough you should check out some other channels that defend christianity. There have been multiple videos to monkeying gms's video on the Gospel of Judas. This one is quite ridiculous as well. The infancy Gospel of Thomas is a late second century forgery. Why should this affect first century writings about Jesus within the lifetime of eyewitnesses? This is essentially fan fiction being propagated as forbidden knowledge.

@atlproductions216

2 жыл бұрын

@@anunknownentity1637 yep it is not to be taken seriously. Still interesting to learn about tho.

This just sounds like a 'gifted' kid that realized he could get away with saying he was god....and it worked.

@pokemasterx4244

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, my head canon is that Jesus then learns why he's wrong and then lives a humble life eventually lol

@appletherapy3492

2 жыл бұрын

This book is just descrediting Jesus..Jesus was so famous after he died. Seeing a book pop up like this is nothing surprising. It doesn’t even qualify to be in the apocrypha. If anything, Jesus was a good guy that lead us into the moral system we live in today.

@kaemonbonet4931

2 жыл бұрын

Turns out Jesus had ADHD

@user-ib1dx4dh3n

2 жыл бұрын

@@appletherapy3492 we already had morals, religion just stole the credit

@roqsteady5290

2 жыл бұрын

@@appletherapy3492 Sounds like you got it bad.

Thank you Drew, for your thoughts on this story. Never knew anything like this existed but I always wondered if Jesus had any other family. I only found your channel by accident in the last few weeks but I am amazed by the logic of your reasoning. Thank you very much 😊

@ASMRyouVEGANyet

7 ай бұрын

How do you not know these things? You think a married couple only had one child (the husband isn't even the father)? What church are you going to? Seems you are not given much information to make up your mind.

I am an atheist, raised outside of religion and not in the US, so my knowledge of the Bible is pretty limited. Watching this video remind me quite well of a passage of the Matthew 21 I read once : 18 Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. 19 Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered. 20 When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. “How did the fig tree wither so quickly?” they asked. 21 Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. 22 If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.” Reading how Jesus killed a tree that dared not bear fruit when he was hungry clashes a lot with the image of benevolent person (and thus God) that is sold in Christianity. However, I feel like it fits pretty well with the image of Jesus given in the Infancy Gospel with Jesus being temperamental and killing people and things that displeases him. Seeing these different things, I feel like the image and interpretation of Jesus have in fact evolved a lot through the time the new testament existed. Which is quite logical, with it having been around for a bit less than two millenias.

@nailonross416

2 жыл бұрын

But when prayer never works the Christian comes up with the excuse he's not a genie.

@dodleymortune8422

Жыл бұрын

Israël is the tree.

@DefenderOfChrist_

Жыл бұрын

That was to show the Disciples that he could get the Tree to vanish in a day

@clashcon11

6 ай бұрын

I can't really see how I can understand something that made me a thing.

As a Christian, I find this channel more interesting than any "regular" Christian channels I have ever came across. Kudos!

@yikana7535

2 жыл бұрын

Lol same. I find channels like these more genuine and it helps expand my world view and challenge the theology I was taught in church.

@overlorddante

2 жыл бұрын

Right there with you. Ironic that atheists make wonderful theologians.

@cod5x

2 жыл бұрын

@@overlorddante they aren't tied down by tradition or looking bad by questioning a story and wanting to know it's true history.

@overlorddante

2 жыл бұрын

@@cod5x exactly. Because they don't care about "the truth" they're able to be more honest about these texts.

@bosscus

2 жыл бұрын

@@overlorddante They don’t care about “the truth”, they’re interested in the truth. And I love it

Joseph: hey Jesus… Jesus: yeah 💪🏿😇🤜🏿 Joseph: umm be nice 😰… Lol great video.

@yadabub

2 жыл бұрын

"Curse you Joseph, father of my brother but not Me!" Then Joseph tripped on a dog's hair, and died. On the following day, Joseph woke from his sleep with a feeling that something momentous had occurred. Jesus stood in the corner, whistling quietly.

Jesus as a child reminds me of The Old Testament God.

I totally see where the inspo for those Omen movies came from, Damien was like baby Jesus 😂😂

This story sounds suspiciously like "It's a Good Life" from the original Twilight Zone, except Jesus just killed everyone instead of sending them to the cornfield.

@Fimbulvinter19

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly where my mind went too. He's a spoilt child with God powers who everyone has to blindly praise or suffer his tantrum.

@buckrogers6378

2 жыл бұрын

"No, no, no, we aren't mad at you at all. In fact, it was real good of you to kill that boy by the river. Real, real good. Wasn't it everyone? He did a real good thing now didn't he?!"

That dude at the end was seriously, "It's good that your daughter died, actually, because something good might happen in a different country in 300 years because of it." 😮

@oscargordon

2 жыл бұрын

That is the seriously f-ed up William Lane Craig. He is considered by many to be one of the greatest Christian thinkers of our time. However when compared to your average junior high student, his logic would rate a D-.

@mauricegold9377

2 жыл бұрын

This is a reason why I am learning to really really hate Craig. he is a cynical monster that should have been silenced years ago.

@ramsesclviii2584

2 жыл бұрын

ah smells like sacrifice

@houser2094

2 жыл бұрын

That's what a fanatic looks like.he is the animal skin wearing naked man grunt of Christianity in a religious war,all he understands is Bible ungaa bungaa

@daviddeida

2 жыл бұрын

LMFAO.Time stamp where he said it was good ?.

There was something familiar about this Gospel, and then I remembered. This Gospel was featured in the film Stigmata, in regards to, paraphrasing here, Jesus not wanting any churches to be established, which is devastating to business structure many religions use to enrich themselves.

The journey may be tough, but the assurance that God not only goes before, stands beside, and walks behind us is a comforting melody for the soul. Let's dance through life's challenges with faith as our partner. 💃🕺

Young Jesus reminds of Bill Mumy's Twilight Zone character; "I'm going to send you out into the cornfield!"

@bartstewart8644

2 жыл бұрын

HA! I just posted the same thing. That episode was called It's a Good Life. I wonder if the writer was familiar with this gospel?

@anthonypride1946

2 жыл бұрын

Young Jesus reminds me of Damien from the Omen movies.

@diegoterneus2250

2 жыл бұрын

This was my thought as well! It's a Good Life was the name of the episode.

@jimaureli6475

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking.

@oliverbrownlow5615

2 жыл бұрын

It's good what you done, Jesus.

Young Jesus sounds just like his father---God. He is easily provoked, judgmental, arrogant and makes excuses for doing vile things to other people. But I do find it amusing how frustrated Joseph was according to these stories. I mean, he always had to keep apologizing for his son killing or blinding people. This Jesus reminds me of that kid in the Twilight Zone episode that starred Bill Mumy and was about a kid with God-like powers that people were terrified of because he could kill with his mind.

@sat0rugojo

2 жыл бұрын

Except there is no such thing as "the forbidden Bible." Are you idiots that gullible?

@537monster

2 жыл бұрын

This makes sense if you view it through the lens of Jesus being God born in a mortal form. He is God coming down to earth to learn what it is to be human.

@RoseInTheWeeds

2 жыл бұрын

@@sat0rugojo The bible is a slapdash collection of a bunch of stories and books written by dozens of people over centuries. When the faith leaders decided to start curating specific gospels and making it forbidden to teach from certain gospels you have what could be called "the forbidden bible," not an actual second bible. As gospels that were written and followed by large groups of people were not accepted by the central religious powers and failed to get added to the bible. And instead were labeled heresy.

@sat0rugojo

2 жыл бұрын

@@RoseInTheWeeds In true Christianity there is no leaders. There's no hierarchy. There is no "pope." Catholics and Christians are not the same. True Christianity is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. We're not saved by works, but by the grace of Jesus Christ.

@applesong01

2 жыл бұрын

@@sat0rugojo you are wrong. Catholics are Christians and what you call Christians are Protestants. What you have are Catholics and Protestants which both fall under the category Christian just because they were divided does not mean that they are completely different religions just different sects

I acknowledge your good work . Thanks

Okay but this is awesome. I've been looking for pre-adult Jesus stories because he's always portrayed to be this good guy. There has to be a time when he was uncontrollable. This is so Jesus though, like table-flipping Jesus with much less patience. And his curses are so in-character, and it would make sense since some sources say that he was an angel, it makes sense why he'd act so edgy hahaha

@jacobclose1296

7 ай бұрын

Good thing none of this is canon

@mariacillan9668

7 ай бұрын

That's only because it's "censored"@@jacobclose1296

It's funny and quite telling when the authors of the bible think they've written something profound and immediately stroke their own ego by recounting how wise what they just said was.

@grahvis

2 жыл бұрын

I do find it odd that people think so much in the Bible is profound, when in reality, it isn't. I don't see anything Jesus is supposed to have said that couldn't or hasn't been said by a thousand others.

@justinh6651

2 жыл бұрын

@@grahvis considering how most of what he says is the most repeated of all those, it's very important regardless

@justinh6651

2 жыл бұрын

Mind sending any examples?

@Sanctifiers

2 жыл бұрын

why question it at all? The moment after your death all will be revealed. Of course it's too late at this point but yolo right? At least you got to be a smug atheist and not actually consider the veracity of claims.

@grahvis

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinh6651 . No it isn't, using a well known form of words when in conversation simply mean indoctrination was successful and they are in the person's memory. It doesn't make a particular arrangement important for no other reason than people remember it. You will find a great number of commonly used sayings that stem from other people, Shakespeare for example.

I can't believe you went through the trouble of putting a one-frame easter egg when you said "and instantly the child withered" and used a picture of the old worm from SpongeBob instead of the Wither

@schorpioen7466

2 жыл бұрын

I missed something i think

@Ponera-Sama

2 жыл бұрын

4:41

you should do more episodes on apocrypha, this stuff is gold

I can't be the only person that was struck with the similarities between these stories of Jesus and Bill Mumy's character in the "It's a Good Life" episode of the Twilight Zone. That's the one where an entire town is at the mercy of Bill Mumy's character, a little boy with God like powers.

It kinda sounds like a more impressive version of the stories those apologists make up about their encounters with hardcore atheist professors who surrender to some weak apologetics.

@MarcillaSmith

2 жыл бұрын

But can they explain spitty slurpy?

@Sanctifiers

2 жыл бұрын

why question it at all? The moment after your death all will be revealed. Of course it's too late at this point but yolo right? At least you got to be a smug atheist and not actually consider the veracity of claims.

@MarcillaSmith

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sanctifiers "veracity of claims"? Are we discussing theology or physics?

The hero of the story is the dedicated teacher who, after hearing that another dude has just been cursed to death by this child with supernatural powers decided "This kid sounds like he can teach me a thing or two"

@alanpennie8013

2 жыл бұрын

A true hero.

I really appreciate the aura of civility you give off. Watched a few videos and subbed. Really enjoying the calm logic, entertaining stories, friendly demeanor, and the encouragement to be kind you give. Good stuff, man.

Hearing these stories for the first time, just confirms a feeling a belief I had since I was a child that this is how Jesus would have been. This just validates for me that Jeaus is not some made up character that some insist upon. These take it to a while other level and makes him concretely real. Wow I am so blown away you have no idea.

@AntediluvianRomance

2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried... literature? It has many stories about people who feel completely real.

the end of your video brings up a very good point that seems to often go overlooked: nobody, but nobody practices "official" christianity or any religion or philosophy for that matter. because so much depends on the subjective experience and interpretation, it's impossible to have a such thing as a "pure" religion or belief system. it's just not the nature of human experience.

@michaeljones7465

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Now you know why Gabriel instructed Muhammad to clarify things.

@frankmarshall3313

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus was a black magician, he killed people, he practiced demonology and engaged in necromancy among other things, all are black arts.

@WisdenWard

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankmarshall3313 No, Jesus didn't do any of that. You're lying.

@AD-pp2vn

2 жыл бұрын

@@WisdenWard So Necromancy (raising Lazarus from the dead), Life-Leach (withering a fig tree), Death Spell(the killing Annas's son) are not black arts?

@WisdenWard

2 жыл бұрын

@@AD-pp2vn Lol, no. Where did you get those definitions from. Watch this and you'll understand. kzread.info/dash/bejne/h36oxqqNeLrVhqg.html

I first heard about the Infancy Gospel in a history of Christianity class in college. It was one of the first things that changed my brain and ignited skepticism for me. Great to hear about it again. Awesome video :)

@james_fisch

2 жыл бұрын

This is admittedly my first time. I knew of non-canonical stories that didn't make it into the Bible, but I hadn't read much further than some of the titles and reasonings for not being included. One of the churches I grew up in had a pastor who was deep into theology, which in the years since becoming an atheist is the only thing I have remotely common with him is a mild fascination for it. Having now heard about the Infancy Gospel through here, I'm now in the mood to read these in hopes we have more stories that are absolutely hilarious.

@johnwilson6324

2 жыл бұрын

@Morgan Edgett @Joe F Why would it ignite skepticism? This kind of stuff was addressed almost 2,000 years ago and we still have the refutations. The non-Canonical Gospels have problems relating to authorship and standing out/contradicting all the other Gospels. If there are 6 historical accounts and one veers off and contradicts the others while having a much more disputed and distant-from-original-eyewitnesses background it'll be rejected. I remember arguing with a Flat Earther once. He kept asking questions I had never heard before and couldn't address. That didn't make him right, it just meant certain fundamentals aren't always examined. Just talk to a Christian scholar who is an expert in this stuff rather than arguing with random Evangelical parents who often aren't taught this stuff. Eastern Orthodox theologians study this stuff all day. Consult them.

@julietfischer5056

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnwilson6324 - The accepted Gospels also have problems.

@johnwilson6324

2 жыл бұрын

@@julietfischer5056 They don't have any substantive differences which is why they were all made Canon - especially when compared to the Gnostic books.

@julietfischer5056

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnwilson6324 - Look into the history of the Gospels. They weren't independent (except possibly John). They have differing timelines and orderings of events. There were numerous conferences and writings to argue over the canon. Had they made a couple of different choices, we wouldn't have our modern End Times obsession.

“And all those who had fallen under his curse were restored” sounds like “and everyone clapped moment” 😂

OMG! there so needs to be a movie on the Child Jesus...

Teacher: You see jesus this is the alphabet. Jesus: No this is the alphabet. Teacher: "I must be cast out and die or flee from this village on account of this boy."

@commentyes9486

2 жыл бұрын

The rich young man: good teacher what must I do to inherit eternal life Jesus of christianity: why do you call me good? Nobody is good except God alone? The rich young man rn in his head: ehh I thaught jesus was God im confused

@christopherlin4706

2 жыл бұрын

Teacher: This is Alpha Jesus: YU TEECH ALPHA Y U NO TEECH BETA ALPHA YOU SEE TOO LINE ON TOP REPRESENT FIRST SYLLABLE UTTER IN CREATION WHICH REPRESENT THE HEAVENS…. BETA HAS BOTH TOP AND BOTTOM CIRCLE MEANING DUALITY IT IS SHAME YOU NO UNDERSTAND BASIC LANGUAGE???? YOU ARE NOT FIT TO BE TEECHER teacher: falls down and dies

@Vekstar

2 жыл бұрын

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@christopherlin4706

2 жыл бұрын

@Jadon!? exactly people are just people can’t judge people and call them good since that may be used against you. It also shows Jesus humility as well

@machintelligence

2 жыл бұрын

This obviously occurred in the days before the phrase "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit" had been coined.

"Jesus, what's the one thing I asked you not to do tonight?" "Raise the dead" "And what did you do?" "Raise the dead"

@robertomondello2447

2 жыл бұрын

Gravity Falls reference, right?

I love these videos

The second story absolutely demands an "and everybody clapped" in the end

So basically Jesus was the kid from the Twilight Zone episode, "It's a Good Life," or Charlie from Star Trek's Charlie X.

@bowlsallbroken

2 жыл бұрын

It's good how you did that, Anthony. Real good!

@darrenrobinson9041

2 жыл бұрын

Damien Omen

Makes him seem so “evil” and vindictive lol

@joestrippin5455

2 жыл бұрын

Like father, like son

@fukpoeslaw3613

2 жыл бұрын

@@joestrippin5455 beat me to it

@chancethewrapper3557

2 жыл бұрын

@@joestrippin5455 damn

@pranavlimaye

2 жыл бұрын

@@fukpoeslaw3613 beat meat to it

@fukpoeslaw3613

2 жыл бұрын

@@pranavlimaye you must be a godforsaken atheist! or, an honest Christian

My favorite story of Jesus is Deuteronomy 13. Perfect description of the man-god and how people are to react to him 😊

Thats why yashua CHRIST is the way truth & life. Glory belongs to him

I need a film based on these types of stories of Jesus’ childhood ASAP

@oremooremo5075

2 жыл бұрын

I seriously want Darkmatter 2525 to animate these. They would be hilarious.

@justalurkr

2 жыл бұрын

Christopher Moore's novel Lamb has you covered. It's The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal.

@daleeloph6888

2 жыл бұрын

@@justalurkr was Biffs last nameTannen?

@justalurkr

2 жыл бұрын

@@daleeloph6888 nah, it was bar something. Biff was a good boy. Edited to add: and by good, I mean supportive of sex workers, wait staff, and pretty damsels in distress.

@DrMakak

2 жыл бұрын

Brightburn gives a similar vibe if you like horror

The big danger with the "all God's actions are morally justified, even if you can't see it" argument is that it opens you up to Pascal's mugging. Someone wants your wallet - they don't even have to claim to be God, just acting on his orders. You can't prove that this is not the case, so you must hand over your wallet. Now this person cuts off your finger. You can't morally punish them if they're acting on God's orders for the good of mankind. How does maiming you help mankind? You can't understand, you're not God. Now they kill your family. Again, by this logic, they are unpunishable and have, in fact, performed a moral good. You can't prove that this is not the case.

@christopherlin4706

2 жыл бұрын

All Gods actions are good, but sometimes not morally justified.

@everylaurenislemons

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherlin4706 would you be able to provide your definition of both “moral” and “good”? Sorry, I’m just a bit confused by your comment

@masonbaumbach2378

2 жыл бұрын

Isiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the LORD, do all these things.’ Yeah the word of god quite contradicts that whole god is morally justified. His love is manifested in his nature of justness but never has he been justified by righteousness instead justifed by his own law which is morally eye for an eye. And if u don’t reap what you sow your innocent children will 😉.

@christopherlin4706

2 жыл бұрын

@@everylaurenislemons Good is over time if a situation becomes better than current situation. Moral is how the result of a situation compares to doing nothing

@everylaurenislemons

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherlin4706 I’ve never heard these definitions before, how did you decide them?

I think child Jesus had the same anger as His Father, unlike His Father though, Jesus broke the cycle of toxicity and bettered Himself as He grew up, He matured, He grew in character. I think being raised by humans helped with that, helped Him understand empathy and sympathy, helped Him be more reasonable and patient with people. Instead of lashing out and destroying human beings out of anger or petty annoyance and frustration. The only time we see him freak out when He was older was when He turned the tables in the Temple, but rightfully so, the Temple, like the Church today, should be a place where people can go to pray or meditate or what have you, and especially feel safe - But it was turned into a "den of thieves". And at least He only withered a tree out of annoyance, rather than a person. I think Jesus eventually grew to love and care about human beings more so than His Father did... "I recommend spending more time in the streets, instead of flying over them" - Batman to JL in JL: Dark

@Bojan12

5 ай бұрын

Jesus never changes like Father like Son

@GreatTrollger

28 күн бұрын

Process Theology. Heresy. Just that in Old Testament we saw God having rightful anger at sinners, and in New Testament rightful love of humanity

“You don’t understand the POWER of the DARK SIDE…..” ~ Darth Baby Jesus

Imagine the balls it takes to say something like that to a parent who lost a child. WTF, Craig...

@DaveCM

2 жыл бұрын

He thinks he is helping. He is regurgitating the "it is all God's plan and we cannot understand it." Christians use it all the time. My grandfather spent the last year of his life in a lot of pain. He died agonizingly. My very religious family members just said that it must be part of God's plan and my grandfather's suffering must be to serve a purpose that we don't see or currently understand. Somehow that dumbfounded thought process gives them some comfort and acceptance. On the bad side, religion is what continued his suffering. Rather than allow him to end it with dignity, he had to endure or risk going to Hell.

“Wish him into the corn field!” For more wtf moments read the gospel of Thomas -the sayings of Jesus.

the funniest thing about people going on about how jesus can't be violent or temperamental is the fact that those same people are totally cool with the whole "ran around the temple with a whip" and "cursed a fig tree for not having figs on it when he wanted figs even though figs were decidedly not in season" things. imagine someone ran into your church bake sale with a whip and then spat on your apple tree for not having apples in the middle of march. insanity.

CORN FIELD. Very entertaining. I love it. Jesus hasn’t learned compassion yet. Has no humility yet. This is great.

"Mom can we watch Jimmy Neutron?" "We have Jimmy Neutron at home" Jimmy Neutron at home:

Damn, if I had written my school essays in bible style back then, I would've been getting terrible grades for poor writing style. Every sentence starts with "And".😅

@isaacmoore6803

2 жыл бұрын

"And it came to pass..."-The beginning of every verse in the Book of Mormon

@riotgrrrl8807

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaacmoore6803 How terribly unnerving.

@mikeharrison1868

2 жыл бұрын

This was apparently written in Greek (alpha and omega, rather than aleph and tau). However the Hebrew of genesis, and I guess a lot of the penteteuch and maybe the rest, use a grammatical construct called vav consecutive. "and" is basically a full stop. I'm further guessing that this was carried in to the septaugint, the Greek translation of the Tanach. Certainly, the opening of the gospel of John mimics this style of language.

@riotgrrrl8807

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeharrison1868 Thanks for the input, that's very interesting! This style and the constant repetition and enumerations always made me wonder why people consider the bible to be such a great piece of literature.

@t-doghammer8926

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeharrison1868 I agree, regarding the Torah, however the third part of the Hebrew bible has really well written and even highly eloquent parts, especially in the book of proverbs and in the book of psalms. Some of these poems as you could call them bring tears of joy to my eyes.

These parts of J-dogs origin story make me like him so much more. He's so relatable.

These so-called "non-canonical" gospels are great fun!

The ad I got was a collection of Rabbis being hateful to secularists and talking about how forcing religion is a part of Judaism (and they think it's a good thing)

@Taegyn_Artemis

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t gotten that one yet! I’m waiting patiently now 😂 Edit:spelling mistake

@glasscardproductions4736

2 жыл бұрын

Like my parents with Christianity.

@idaniluz652

2 жыл бұрын

@@Taegyn_Artemis you won't get it, unless you live in Israel.

@williamdowling7718

2 жыл бұрын

Theist advertisers love to spam atheist KZread content. Lol. I say let them waste their money. Better that those ads are seen by us instead of someone who will actually take it seriously.

@williamdowling7718

2 жыл бұрын

@@idaniluz652 nah, I've gotten that ad in the US. Or at least one that sounds just like what you described, even if it's not the exact same one.

Holy shit I grew up with some of these stories as if they were canonical, only to find out they're heresy?? Guess I've been on this train longer than I knew. These stories are still very much alive in the Hispanic communities I grew up with particularly the one where Jesus stretched out the wood (lol). Its crazy I never knew any of this stuff, great job GMS!

@Cheepchipsable

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe "stretching wood" was a metaphor?

Your recap at 5:45 was eerily similar to what the group leader would say during his teaching at the bible discussion. Like the cadance and everything

Well presented.